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Tuesday, December 2, 2008
The Top 20 Dangerous Places in the World, India among the Top 20 Dangerous Places in the World
In the wake of the recent terror attacks in Mumbai, India, which shook the world, a British government report has placed India among the top 20 most dangerous places to visit. This year, India witnessed maximum number of bomb blasts too. Here are the top 20 dangerous places in the world:

1. Iraq: The security situation in Iraq is very much volatile. The British foreign office has advised against all travel to Baghdad as well as a number of provinces including Basra and Kirkuk.

2. Afghanistan: Afghanistan has the highest threat of terrorism. Crimes like kidnapping, crimes, suicide attacks are the norm here. The foreign office(www.fco.gov.uk) strongly advises against all but essential travel to the country.

3. Chechnya: The foreign office has advised against all travel to Chechnya. Dagestan and Ingushetia because of the security situation in the North Caucasus.

4. South Africa: South Africa suffers from a high level of violent crimes, including rape and murder.

5. Jamaica: The capital of Jamaica, Kingston, has a bad reputation of gun crime and violence. Visitors are advised to remain vigilant in isolated rural areas and deserted beaches, even in daylight hours.

6. Sudan: The threat from indiscriminate terrorism is quite high in Sudan and the humanitarian situation is grim. The foreign office advises against all travel to a number of areas.

7. Thailand: Major political demonstrations and a temporary state of emergency have affected both of Bangkok's airports.

The other dangerous countries in the world are as follows(chronologically):

8. Colombia
9. Haiti
10. Eritrea
11. Congo
12. Liberia
13. Pakistan
14. Burundi
15. Nigeria
16.Zimbabwe
17. India
18. Mexico
19. Israel and Palestine
20. Lebanon

By nine inch nails on Dec 3, 2008, 14:27 in Friendly Talkzone.

nine inch nails says on Dec 3, 2008, 14:28:

Due to recent events like both airports closed for 1 week.

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durito2 says on Dec 3, 2008, 14:47:

That list is ridiculous.

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Cheers Terry says on Dec 3, 2008, 15:08:

Beyond ridiculous.

But then, most lists are...

Cheers,
Terry

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nine inch nails says on Dec 3, 2008, 15:09:

or more PC Thailand edged out CO! jajajajaja

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nine inch nails says on Dec 3, 2008, 15:11:

Crime getting so bad in SOFLA now people are being shot up at Dunking donuts for not getting on the floor fast enough. And robbers very brazen even shooting and killing an armed guard inside of Dadeland mall. That's ridiculous!

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goin_south says on Dec 3, 2008, 15:36:

Why did they leave off 'Detroit', y Nueva Orleans?

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Tolú says on Dec 3, 2008, 15:53:

goin_south,

I'm curious why you mention those two US cities. Could you elaborate?

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goin_south says on Dec 3, 2008, 15:58:

I think, most usually, they are at the top of the list for crime in the usa... recentemente.
No?

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Tolú says on Dec 3, 2008, 16:07:

Oh, I see. I don't find the crime in those cities to be comparable to the places on that list though...

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Zach says on Dec 3, 2008, 16:55:

That's a pretty crap list. Where is Somalia?

It's run by warlords and pirates attack cruise and cargo ships off its coast.

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billyb says on Dec 3, 2008, 18:00:

Good point Zach.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Chriscan says on Dec 3, 2008, 18:16:

Where did you find that list?

No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it.

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cocoloco says on Dec 3, 2008, 18:41:

Where in that list is the USA? I have been to the poorest sections in Medellin and Bogota, and it does not come close to the ghettos in Miami, NY, LA, Chicago, nor does Colombia have radical Muslims and North Koreans plotting to wipe them off the face of the earth. I feel a lot safer in Colombia than in the US.

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manINred says on Dec 3, 2008, 20:04:

Poor doesn't necessarily = dangerous. No one on this website would venture into the most dangerous parts of Medellin or Bogota.

The USA as a whole does not deserve to make that list, but Detroit as a city centre does. I don't see how Zimbabwe and the Congo are safer than Colombia, but then again I don't see how Thailand is more dangerous either.

Anyway, these lists are meant to be taken with a grain of salt.

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billyb says on Dec 3, 2008, 20:16:

yup, they are only good to get a discussion going.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Dec 3, 2008, 20:48:

Hey Tolu...""" Oh, I see. I don't find the crime in those cities to be comparable to the places on that list though..."""

Tolu, I guess not, since you 'were born in' and 'live in' Afganistan.

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goin_south says on Dec 3, 2008, 21:51:

But, how would you know?

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lpdiver says on Dec 3, 2008, 22:03:

The thing about these "dangerous" countries is that you need to analyze the cause and effect. Is the country in an active war? Well DUH yah it IS going to be pretty dangerous.

After that it comes down to life style and economics.

Poor areas are going to be more dangerous generally speaking.

Chasing whores and drugs...you know buddy? you are hanging out in risky locales and dealing with risky people.

Stealing local women...good way to find pain.

Some places are just bad locales and lawless in general...Can you spell Darien Gap or Nariño department?

Avoid these and you can pretty much narrow it down to when your number is up...

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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aussiesam says on Dec 4, 2008, 05:08:

what manfred said no one on this web site would venture into the dangerous parts here.

thailand is as safe as houses

Parts of mexico are more dangerous than Colombia at the moment.

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turnmeon says on Dec 4, 2008, 05:57:

haity safer than Colombia? what the hell?

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paisa29 says on Dec 4, 2008, 06:13:

What about Chavesland?

"Fill the earth with the light and warmth of hospitality" Conrad Hilton

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turnmeon says on Dec 4, 2008, 08:30:

crime is much worse in the kingdom of Chavez and they are not on that list, meh that remind me that the hipocrital lefties lovers are on power

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tasco66 says on Dec 4, 2008, 09:27:

What about Guatemala and Nicaragua?

No way they are safer than Colombia

Newsweek on Uribe: "he's delivered the trifecta of peace, security, and prosperity"

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kramer says on Dec 4, 2008, 09:35:

Well, I live part-time in Thailand and part-time in Colombia, so perhaps I should comment (I am currently living in northern Thailand this autumn and winter). We laughed here in Thailand when this list came out. The actual danger in Thailand was not the present conditions, but there was a small possibility that they could spiral out of control which could possibly create the conditions for a spurt of crime. The crisis is mostly over for now.

However, even a worst case scenario was probably more of an interruption of services rather than widespread violence. Generally, Thailand is safer than a Western country and certainly safer than Colombia. However, when I first saw this list, I sent mail to my some colombian friends and commented that I never thought I would be running to the safety of Colombia, ja ja.

Also, I continue to feel that the safety level of Colombia is colored by its recent history and less attention is paid to improved travel conditions nowadays because they can't get past the reputation and are simply unaware or unwilling to acknowledge the fact that the country has really changed for the better. Also, a previous poster had a good point that Venezuela not being on the list greatly subtracts from the credibility of the list.

Kramer

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borat says on Dec 4, 2008, 09:52:

somalia's ok then?

what you believe is not important, it's what you do that counts

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jay007 says on Dec 4, 2008, 15:00:

turnmeon..i was thinking the same thing! im no expert but this list looks like crap.

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Simon says on Dec 4, 2008, 20:21:

"I lived in Bangkok."

Any hopes of you moving back?

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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goin_south says on Dec 4, 2008, 20:59:

"Any chance of you moving back?"
(and taking S.Simon with you!?!????)

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goin_south says on Dec 4, 2008, 21:38:

To Tolu... Read johnny's list above, and I guess that would explain why I included '"those two cities"" of New Orleans and Detroit.

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La_Huella says on Dec 4, 2008, 22:17:

To be fair though Bogota does have a LOT of theft of all kinds. A LOT. Not necessarily violent robberies, but a lot of home break ins, con artists, pickpocketing etc. Murder rate doesn't really indicate security.

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La_Huella says on Dec 5, 2008, 08:53:

Why not post Lima vs Bogota, they have very similar populations.

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La_Huella says on Dec 5, 2008, 09:07:

Nope. Bogota has about half that. Look it up.

Most of Colombia has higher crime than Bogota, ESPECIALLY murders. Usually Pereira or Villavicencio lead the republic in murders.

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La_Huella says on Dec 5, 2008, 10:02:

I don't think Lima is any safer than Bogota, unfortunately I can't find any good data right now.

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lpdiver says on Dec 5, 2008, 11:11:

It would be interesting to know the details behind the murders. Gang on gang, drug related, crime of passion, etc. I still maintian that if you stay out of the wrong places and keep your nose clean that those numbers become virtually irrelevant.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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goin_south says on Dec 5, 2008, 11:30:

Acuerdo.
And keep your peripheral vision/awareness turned on.

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La_Huella says on Dec 5, 2008, 13:46:

For the most part that's certainly true.

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Tolú says on Dec 5, 2008, 13:53:

Well. I'm glad we've got that settled and that we're all in agreement.

So how about them Millionarios?

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billyb says on Dec 5, 2008, 18:31:

"It would be interesting to know the details behind the murders. Gang on gang, drug related, crime of passion, etc. I still maintian that if you stay out of the wrong places and keep your nose clean that those numbers become virtually irrelevant."

Totally agree.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Peter (Moderator) (Dev team) says on Dec 6, 2008, 02:19:

I agree too. And yes, what a ridiculous list (the original one).

Poor but snappy

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sanandressi says on Dec 6, 2008, 11:56:

I would go anywhere in Los Angeles during the DAY but once the sun sets you had better know where you are. I think it is fair to say that there are good parts of town and bad parts of town in just about every country. I know that 15 years ago San Jose, Costa Rica was safe just about all 24 hours long but that has changed I understand.

If there was no crime there would be no police or even military. Most everybody has them right?

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