Tequila health benefits

christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 20:56:

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ukcatfan says on Sep 10, 2007, 20:56:

Haha, tequilla is definately hazzardous to my health!

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 20:57:

oh friend of cat, did I mention moderation? next...

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:06:

You can graph alcohol consumption and age of death and get a J-shaped curve. People who drink one drink of alcohol (a drink is 12 oz. of beer, 4 oz. of wine or 1.5 oz of tequila) a day are at the bottom of the J, having a lower mortality than those who drink no alcohol. People who drink three or more drinks a day have considerably higher mortality (die sooner) than people who drink less.

Heart disease kills more than 1/3 of people, and drinking alcohol reduces atherosclerosis. It increases good HDL cholesterol and reduces kidney stone attacks. Drinking too much causes stroke, liver disease, pancreatitis, disfigured babies and the fall of the Roman Empire.

So one drink of tequila a day would probably help.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:06:

Good for the heart, bad for the digestive system.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:12:

esta bien, well of course I would hear from MAN TEQUILA here. thanks but that is general on alcohol. what about tequila in particular?

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coffee beaner says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:26:

How about 1 shot of guaro a day?

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:39:

The general benefits of alcohol apply to tequila. Agave has some purported benefits since it is high in fructans, but these benefits are lost when agave is distilled. Nothing special about it that I've read in the medical literature.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:43:

but your name precedes you, and yet, you say no. ok, maybe a couple of shots a day for a good long life?

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:48:

I like tequila, but when I drink it rarely stick to two shots. One shot a day seems to be the best for living a long life, but make sure it's worth living. Having a good social network is also associated with longer life and greater satisfaction, maybe people who drink are more social too? Tequila is medically known for being delicious. It seems to make things worse for diabetics. Medical research into tequila is sorely lacking.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 21:54:

I know, scientific studies, double blind or otherwise, never reflect all the other true factors that are involved. I believe that if we believe tequila is a healthful benefit, truly believe that, than it will be. If we think of it as harmful, than that will be the case as well. same as anything.

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miamimike says on Sep 10, 2007, 22:05:

In all the medical reports I have read, I have never read where Tequila(or aguardiente sp) was ever good for you, even in Moderation. ,,,I hate to think of the damage these do to your stomach/liver. Now a few glasses of Wine daily is another story,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 22:09:

I am trying to rationalize that "I can do anything" feeling it gives me, though I have noticed the digestive system doesn't seem to always agree, the following day.

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 22:19:

Why is wine another story? Some industries are better than others at marketing benefits, but it doesn't make it so. See this American Heart Association article:
http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4422


"No direct comparison trials have been done to determine the specific effect of wine or other alcohol on the risk of developing heart disease or stroke.

Research is being done to find out what the apparent benefits of drinking wine or alcohol in some populations may be due to, including the role of antioxidants, an increase in HDL ("good") cholesterol or anti-clotting properties. Clinical trials of other antioxidants such as vitamin E have not shown any cardio-protective effect. Also, even if they were protective, antioxidants can be obtained from many fruits and vegetables, including red grape juice.

The best-known effect of alcohol is a small increase in HDL cholesterol."

Man Tequila

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 22:23:

fruits and veggies, and grape juice, are good but they don't offer the relaxing benefits, which seems paramount, and is yet, at this point, not so much measurable.

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 22:25:

I think anything that releases resistance, emotionally, is valuable, healthwise, and if tequila is particularly strong in that respect, as long as one does not tend to overdo it, then I believe it can be beneficial.

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Man Tequila says on Sep 10, 2007, 22:35:

But if the benefit was due to antioxidants and flavanoids, and not alcohol, fruit consumption would also show mortality curve benefits in heart disease. Vitamin E was touted by cardiologists for its antioxidant effect, but no benefit was shown by the HOPE trial.

Double blind studies are limited but the only way to show complex physiological cause and effect. You just can't do that with a prospective or case-control trial.

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christobeldawg says on Sep 10, 2007, 22:42:

but if those double blind studies were to be valid, they would have to rule out particular individuals having very different responses, which is always the case. I say, generally speaking, therefore, throw the baby out with the bath water. unless one is in public health, and wants to only show general tendencies. Individual responses always vary, extremely, and it is almost dangerous to think of how these studies might adveresely affect individuals, only because of that entire mind over matter factor.

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 05:25:

ok here are my thoughts...

tequila is indeed good for digestive system, in Mexico, mexicans do drink a little when having indigestion, so if you feel kind of bad for so much food you ate, you drink a "caballito", and IT WORKS!!!!! I have tried that myself....

On the other hand, whenever I have the flu, I drink a cup of coffee with a shot of tequila, that is called "café con piquete"... and it works!!! or at least I forget about the flu.... hehehehehehehe =P

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miamimike says on Sep 11, 2007, 05:30:

MT-We read different Medical Reports,,,LOL,,Now we are seeing where Coffee is purported to be beneficial to the Heart,,,Stick around long enough and one of these days we will see Bacon pushed as a health food. I always laugh at a lot of these so called health studies. As George Burns quipped one day before he died(being close to 100 when he passed) when asked what his Doctors think of Him Smoking 5-6 Big Cigars daily as well as Drinking Alcohol Daily, He answered "I don't know, they(my doctors) are all Dead" LOL,,,Moral of the study, take those Studies with a grain of salt,,,Seems they are like Opinions, everyone(depending on the Industry) Everyone has one,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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slguy says on Sep 11, 2007, 06:14:

I've always loved the superhero qualities tequila brings...especially invisibility! I was invisible just last month...I think.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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christobeldawg says on Sep 11, 2007, 07:34:

I think maybe I will begin my own personal studies, to sacrifice myself for the better good of all. Anybody wanna join me?

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 07:39:

me!!!!!!

I'm in....

hehehehehehe

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Man Tequila says on Sep 11, 2007, 10:31:

There are lots of good studies, and a good double-blind reduces inclusion bias by putting enough people with similar lifestyles into each group through proper randomization. Studies are far from perfect, but even the good ones are quickly blown out of proportion by a media more interested in saying whether popular food X is "good" or "bad" rather than a nuanced view of the physiology. Most folks don't have the training in statistics or medicine to tell a good study from a bad one anyway.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 10:44:

por eso mismo Man Tequila me propongo para ser rata de laboratorio

jajajajajajajajajajajaja

Yo tomaré tequila y les aviso de los efectos "curativos" que tiene!!1

=D just kidding

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Man Tequila says on Sep 11, 2007, 10:50:

No, me acuerdo que su propuesta es importante y crucial. Me creo que boberías un copa o quatre y regresar con su tesis.

Hic.

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christobeldawg says on Sep 11, 2007, 18:49:

well Gabo and I are going to sacrifice our liver and digestive tracts for a two man double blind study. I will begin when I arrive back to Colombia.

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 18:53:

ok and I will bring the Tequila... Centenario Plata is ok with you??



=)

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houstongal says on Sep 11, 2007, 18:57:

OK guys...you guys can be the subjects and I'll run the study OK? I still know how to run experiments and stats. Too many years of grad school to forget any of that!

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 19:08:

jajajajajajajajajaja good point HG....

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 19:30:

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 19:31:

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houstongal says on Sep 11, 2007, 19:44:

I just can't join you because I once got really, really sick on tequilla (after 6 shots) and doing shots would not be good. I'll just play researcher and you guys can be my test subjects!

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 19:50:

so we will be your lab rats.. mmmmm



LOL

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 19:51:

oh please don't tell your cats that we are your lab rats... pleeeaaassseee...

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houstongal says on Sep 11, 2007, 19:55:

LOL!!!! Wait...you didn't know my cats were my assistants? ;-)

Actually, I never had to do experiments with animals...only people!

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 20:03:

gatos y ratas de laboratorio no se llevan, además tus asistentes tienen un poco de pereza





LOL

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houstongal says on Sep 11, 2007, 20:07:

LOL!!! These are great photos!

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christobeldawg says on Sep 11, 2007, 20:08:

HG did I not mention in moderation? 6 shots way too much.
Gabo and I are going to go with 2 a day, maybe 3, if we ever get the nerve up to start this.
What do I tell all the people who see me as pretty much a nondrinker? Only that it is for the greater good, a sacrifice by me and the Gabster?

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gabolicious says on Sep 11, 2007, 20:09:

ahí me tienes sacrificándome para mostrarles a estos hombres el poder curativo del tequila mientras que tu "asistente" juega!!!!!!

Querida me despido porque va a empezar "sin tetas..."

Bonita noche y te mando un beso..

Gabo

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christobeldawg says on Sep 11, 2007, 20:15:

finally, HG can use those statistics and methodology classes for something worthwhile

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houstongal says on Sep 11, 2007, 20:16:

Yup, you guys are being sacrificed for the better good of scientific research! But we can't do this with just 2 subjects. We're gonna need much more to conduct a robust research project!

Yeah, 6 was way too much. I paid for it big time the next day with the worse headache ever. Maybe it was also b/c I had 2 kamakazes also?! I can't drink like that. At most I can have a margarita.

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christobeldawg says on Sep 11, 2007, 20:20:

In college once, we took way too many tequila shots, and I, one who is not an Indian, and therefore terrified of heights, then climbed to the top of a rural power line pole, without any fear. The next day I decided that tequila was something to avoid, and yet here I am, willing to sacrifice myself for the good of man and womankind.

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campbell says on Sep 12, 2007, 02:50:

I once heard Willie Nelson say "Stress is the number one killer in the world today". Drinking one shot of tequila a day would probably relieve stress but half a bottle will land you in more stress than you started with. So my thoughts are that one or two shots would more than likley be benificial to your mental well being.

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Lowell says on Sep 12, 2007, 14:12:

About 30 years ago, when I used to go deep into Baja Mexico for surfing trips, I met a very old dude who sold me Mescal in an earthen jug. In all my bozzin , druged out, wasted days, I've never had a better high. Especially with some good mexican purple (weed).

Where's my "jeanie in a bottle to take me back. I rode big waves for over a mile. My legs got tired from all the bottom turns and off the lips. I also was visited by some of the local farmers daughters, who liked my off the lips and bottom turns.

Danm I hate some of my memories.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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goin_south says on Sep 12, 2007, 22:28:

How did I miss this thread?
Go talk to Marinero Yerri ;)

But, glad I found it because I have serious considerations since starting on the PALEOLITHIC DIET.... NO GRAINS!!!!! NO SUGAR!!!!!!!!!! (No beer... no rum; the second one being my weakness, and it will sugarly kill ya!) Except I bathe it in numerous fruits to balance and counter the devastating effects, and I was the first one to make sure I took my vitamins with my liquor! jajjjaaa

Okay, but...seriously. I have been investingating/contemplating/legislating in my mind, the virtues of RUBITO'S PALEOLITHIC DIET... and I know the grains and sugars aren't good for this one, so..... thinking 'Jimidor' (seens to be one of the favorite tequilas of los mejicanos that I know)...

Where do we go from here?

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 05:28:

GS it's Jimador.... hehehehehehe

And yeah is also popular........

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Man Tequila says on Sep 13, 2007, 08:52:

"As a psych. major, I know I will be pummeled with accusations of rationalization"...

This is not a problem for most of the psych majors I know. ;)

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houstongal says on Sep 13, 2007, 14:44:

Hey...I'm a psych major and have a MA in Industrial/Organizational Psych. I could've gotten a PhD but decided I really didn't want to write the dang dissertation.

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goin_south says on Sep 13, 2007, 15:11:

damned impressive Houstongal; we thought you jus had a major in 'porn auditing' ;)

Where do we go from here?

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houstongal says on Sep 13, 2007, 17:07:

That was my minor! ;-)

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goin_south says on Sep 13, 2007, 17:23:

was your minor,... major?

Where do we go from here?

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 17:52:

LOL HG...

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 17:53:

I have a name for your research project on Tequila Health Benefits



HIP!!!

Salud!!!!

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Man Tequila says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:15:

Might be fun, doing a few shots of tequila than having to run through a maze in search of cheese...

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:26:

sounds like a good analogy for what does happen to most guys after a few shots of tequila

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Man Tequila says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:30:

Yeah, no wonder you climbed the power line. Jeje.

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:32:

"Might be fun, doing a few shots of tequila than having to run through a maze in search of cheese..."

LOL

Definately...

Chris are you still in this with me? Please amigo don't leave me alone!!!

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:38:

Si Gabo. I thought of bailing out on ya but we are going to do this. no preoccupe. good one TMan.

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:45:

Ok, I thought I was going to do this alone.. and I said "wait a minute Gabo, you have to share this tequila with Chris, and Man Tequila (if he wants)"

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:49:

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Man Tequila says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:50:

If I get to run through a maze, I'm so in on this.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 18:59:

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houstongal says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:05:

You guys are just too funny! I love the logo Gabo! Too cool! Of course, when I see you in November, we can have our own tequilla experiment - jajaja!

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:11:

so you'll be part of the Xtreme Rat Challenge too?

That is GREAT!!!

Oh but we have to save a little, just a little, for Chris and MT, agree dear HG?

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:12:

Erm... Chris... those are lovely ladies....

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:13:

One for you HG

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:14:

LOL Chris!!!

that is a good one!!!

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:18:

Those girls are volunteers for my tequila health study control group. As I said, I am sacrificing for science and the betterment of man and womankind. tough work but somebody had to step up.

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:21:

oh I see!!!

Thank God I am part of that experiment too!!!

=D

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:21:

oh I see!!!

Thank God I am part of that experiment too!!!

=D

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:22:

just another routine day at the office for me huh Gabo?

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:24:

I have to hurry and join this experiment ASAP....

We cannot leave those lovely ladies alone... you know?

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gabolicious says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:27:

Ok lady and guys good night!!! I gotta eat something.... you know I'm starving... BAU

Good night HG, Chris and MT....

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houstongal says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:29:

Oh Chris, that cat photo is hysterical!!! Hey, you guys are all welcome to join Gabo and I in Mexico City at the end of November. Boy do I LOVE my job! :-)

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christobeldawg says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:33:

I gotta go too, too much tequila with da ladies today

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houstongal says on Sep 13, 2007, 19:36:

LOL....these are too funny Chris! Have a good night!

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goin_south says on Sep 13, 2007, 23:02:

brings a new definition to the term: todos estas perros!
funny, Christo....
I guess I know why I do not C U on here tonight...
Suenos con la tequilla!

Where do we go from here?

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christobeldawg says on Sep 15, 2007, 21:03:

actually the dawg aint a big drinker but will be willing to drink tequila when I am in Bogota next month, and will be happy to post the results. man what I am willing to do for science.
Gabo, if you want to stay with me here, we could do a virtual hook up, if we could get HoustonGirl, Man Tequila, Goin South, Mona, and other friends to play along, and all go get a bottle and take a few shots this Thursday, if that night is good, and we could all talk about the effects as we go.

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