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Temptation

Lately there has been a fair amount of talk about sex tourism, prostitution, unfaithful men....... OK fine. But what about the way women, teenage girls and unfortunately preteen girls dress and present themselves in public here in Colombia? Way sexy, women, way too sexy dressed teens and preteens. Who helps supports this? Their Mama’s...... It’s impossible for men to view the opposite sex dressed and acting like this and not have some sort of reaction. It’s like baiting a fish. And there’s no shame in it. A good example is me. I’m over 50, a bit over weight, married, don’t chase women and am not rich. Yet many women and some teens in my area and in the town where I’m known, make it obvious that they are available to me. Sometimes not so discretely in front of my wife. It’s like putting an addicts favorite drug in front of them and saying don’t touch it or use it. Not!

By Lowell on Jun 11, 2007, 17:10 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


beckloud says on Jun 11, 2007, 17:19:

I agree ! Just my opinion!

beckloud

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CaritadeAngel says on Jun 11, 2007, 18:20:

I don't think its a problem here
We are encouraged to be meat for the vultures. Everywhere.

He that knows better how to tame a shrew, Now let him speak; 'tis charity to shew."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

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elreydelostrolls says on Jun 11, 2007, 18:58:

Don't fight it, Lowell, it'll back up on you. Just bang as many of them as you can and then blame it all on la brujeria.

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 11, 2007, 19:02:

I agree also I am going with my gringo F. to Medellin in 10 days for couple of months, and I think I am going to put some blinders on him, how do you call those things they put on the horses, ( en los caballos cocheros) and get a whip to scare the "sardinas" away from him. LOL

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RUV says on Jun 11, 2007, 19:56:

Lowell,
You really have it Lowell,

You really have it bad.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 11, 2007, 21:44:

I would have to agree especially in cities like Cali young women walk around in a state of undress that could posibly be distracting for older gentlemen and make it difficult for them to keep their eyes on the plow.

Yes, it is encouraged by their mamas as part of the extremely materialistic culture that predominates at this time; in order to find a man to support and help them financially girls have turned to rather aggressive marketing strategies.

For every fashion statement it looks like Colombianitas have to make it even more extreme, forgetting the good taste in their almost desperate effort to look sexy and sensual. I guess that's the style over there. I must say, however, that their quest for being extremely feminine and sexy sometimes goes a little overboard and the end result is more than little ridiculous and pathetic.

Well, everybody is free to hang or glue on their bodies as much or as little as they wish and there are also plenty of young and older women who dress femininely and yet with garbo and elegance and manage to look fashionable and lovely without looking trashy, even in Cali.

What worries me in this raunchy trend is that the it's creeping down in age and it's not unusual to se 6-7 year-old girls imitating their big sisters's "fashions" and body language with all the strut and pout. Makes my skin crawl.

Chers,
Desi




"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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jinksmiester says on Jun 11, 2007, 22:52:

Personally i don,.t mind seeing a lady dressed sexy or in tight clothes if she has the figure for it.Sure ...like a true soldier it might make me stand at attention..but i have a brain and can control those urges.If a lady has`a beautiful body...hey who does,nt want to see her in tight clothes.

A man is not old until regret takes the place of dreams

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 11, 2007, 23:04:

I am confused what do you mean, sweethearts. by dressing sexy and feminine in non-western tradition? Oriental women, for example, dress in a feminine way but not provocatively sexy like many Latin women. Tight, low-cut jeans reveal much more than a skirt and I would't know if men find a skirt more attractive on a girl that these clingy jeans. Part of the sexually provocative dressing is just that: taking what is traditionally a man's piece of clothing and making it cling to our curves and showing skin at the same time; adding a feminine touch to it with flashy embroideries and decorative stiching.

I live in Scandinavia and we have basically the same dressing style as in the UK; for example, a little plainer, a little less glamorous, a little less flashy. In the summer we(women) dress accordingly, showing skin both up and down, leg and ahoulder, midrift and decolleté, flimsy materials, airy and feminine summer fashions. I think our summer fashions are very feminine but not sexually provocative; the sensuality and the sexiness is more understated. It does NOT mean that we dress like men either.

Cheers,
Desi


"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 12, 2007, 01:51:

I am going to talk about the young women in the UK, OK they do dress sexy over the summer month, little skirt and tops, only that they don't show sensuality, they way they walk, act and behave are not suggesting anything. but put this girls in Ibiza, or any Spanish resort or Rhodes island in Greece and see the way some of this young British girls dresses and behave, they put Colombia on the bottom list!!! only that they flirt with people their own age.


another thing Colombian Girls are flirty by nature, we like to flirt and we like to look sexy, things that Foreigners are not used to with their own native women, so they take it in the wrong way.

when I am in Villavo I see lots of girls dressing very sexy,but I have notice too that for the local men, this is normal and they don't bat an eyelid when they see a girl in crop top and tight low cut jeans but look at the tourist and they all are dribbling.



another thing is the weather, in Bogota I have notice girls tend to dress less provocative, but they still look sexy.

engage brain before opening mouth

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raulinho says on Jun 12, 2007, 02:24:

Sweethearts, it is obvious you are not too bright. Carita says the vultures made us do it!! Lowell never said rape was ok these girls are coming on to him! So the sole point in these womens lives is to get a man or to put it blunt get laid. "Women dress like this to get a man, because men don't go for the girl in jeans when there is a girl in a skirt standing beside her".Fine well don't complain when your man runs off with the sexier dressed competition if that's all you got to offer!

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scotty says on Jun 12, 2007, 04:04:

Lowell Not only that. If you only knew what the gringas do they are worse than the gringos ever thought of being. they call us dogs they are dogettes. did you know there is a whole huge cult of american and european women that travel to places like jamaica for sex. thats right, you never hear about this because thats the way things are in america, its always the guys fault , we are always the dogs, blah blah blah.
No one ever talks about the masses of women flying to such places as jamaica for sex trips.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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cayita says on Jun 12, 2007, 05:45:

uh huh tommorow I am going to entroduce my retirement plan and enter at a nice young age. I am simply going to take all my clothes off and walk down the street...

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Lowell says on Jun 12, 2007, 06:45:

rape? WOW!

I never hinted at rape. Dressing sexy is fine. Tits hanging out or bursting out of their tops, jeans so tight you can see the lips of their vagina, pant tops undone, pants cut real low..... is my comment.

The point that I'm trying to make is that both sexes contribute to the current situation. And someimes the women of Colombia make it real hard for a man to be faithful. Now when I see a prepago or overly sexily dressed woman/girl. I imediately see the sign TROUBLE/$$$$$ in front of my eyes. Total turnoff. It's almost like a joke.

What's attractive to me is an an employeed woman who dresses up just enough to be actractive and a bit sexy, has a pleasant smile and is perhaps interested in a daytime lunch date. I'm soon to be single again and that's what I'll be looking for. If I look at all, as I'm really burned out with all the nonsence.

Oh yea, my 5 yrs old step niece is already wearing makeup, semi-high heels and often asks if she's sexy. At what age will she lose her virginity? Pre-puberty?

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Brians says on Jun 12, 2007, 07:47:

I agree with Kat. We laugh about it all the time when my sister-in-laws friends are over say visiting the Finca alone with only woman in the house they aren't dressed up or sexually dressed. However when I arrive later with my wife we laugh because they all run into the bedroom and change. They come out and strut around the finca dressed like they are hitting the clubs. Now I don't for a second believe they want to screw me. It seems like a little competition between them. They just want to be the one noticed or something. It does make for a fun time and if I think you have to understand it is really more a cultural thing.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 12, 2007, 08:07:

A few years back a Cali mayor had to decree miniskirts and see-through/extremely low-cut tops illegal at the city hall because it was too distracting for the male employees...

that's one difference too, between women here and Colombian (all Latin?); we dress according to the occasion. We wouldn't wear party dresses or clubbing clothes to work, which to us seems to be the custom in Cali. We like to dress in a professional manner at our jobs just to convey the message that we are there for the job, working, not making out. We save heavier make-up, lower-cut tops, shorter skirts, tighter jeans and higher heels for the evening wear.

Cheers,
Desi


"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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orestesdd says on Jun 12, 2007, 08:14:

Can someone explain to me what a "prepago" is or isnt? I am totally confused. So can someone explain to me either in English or Spanish what a prepago is? What is the difference between a "prepago" and a prostitute? Thanks.

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Frank Rizzo says on Jun 12, 2007, 08:18:

here we go again... you'll get a good response with this question orestesdd, for sure.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 12, 2007, 08:26:

Too bad I can't split this thread ...
we've discussed "pre-pago" way too often here already. Orestesdd, a prepago is a "normal" young woman, often a college girl that does some hooking up as a sideline to afford a cushier lifestyle. Start a new thread, this one is NOt about prostitution.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Leeroy says on Jun 12, 2007, 10:06:

Every once in a while in my school we have "jeans day", which means that the boys come to school in jeans and T-shirts, and the girls come to school in their underwear. Well, it certainly seems that way.

While a 13-year old girl in school uniform may appear to be a 13-year old schoolgirl, it is saddening and weird to see how she can transform herself into (what many would consider to be) a quite viable sex object when freed from the restrictions of school uniform. Revealing cleavage and short-skirts are the norm rather than the exception on jeans day, where every girl during and post-puberty suddenly seems to transform into a "prepago", at least certainly in appearance.

I, and some other teachers, do not like it very much. While being surrounded by 20-somethings in similar attire might be great, being surrounded by 13-year olds in this way is weird and uncomfortable - especially when you know them.

The exact social, cultural and personal reasons for why they do this should probably be left to a long and scholarly essay!

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bufalo says on Jun 12, 2007, 21:58:

Colombia is the only place I am offered 16 year old's by their mothers who fully know that I am married and have a child. It is also the only place I ever got physically attacked for sex - serious, it was like a comedy.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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Ekdog says on Jun 13, 2007, 04:33:

Lowell, you are so puritanical... You're lucky to live in a country like Colombia, where there are lots of sexy girls walking around who aren't ashamed of their lithe bodies. Do they make you feel nervous because you can't "get any"? Or perhaps you couldn't "get it up" if you did manage to convince one of them to get into the sack with you.

The señoritas here in Seville dress in a sexy manner, too, especially this time of year, when it starts getting hot. You'd hate it over here, with all of the minskirts and low-cut blouses they wear. If you prefer an uptight, sexually suppressed society where women keep their bodies hidden under layers of tasteless, baggy clothes (and thick layers of fat!), I suggest you move to a place like Kansas or Utah. You'd be happy there.

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aztec says on Jun 13, 2007, 04:45:

Desideria, My wife and I ... ...have also noticed a change in dress for young women in Bogotá. While the city is still more formal and conservative there does seem to be a trend towards the style found in Cali and even Cartagena.

That is not a criticism on the other city residents. It simply looks out of place in Bogotá.

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Lowell says on Jun 13, 2007, 06:53:

Dog you're way off the mark. Excuse me for having some morals and thank you for the slam. When I think of you, the word pervert/child molestor comes to mind. I have a beautiful 17 month old baby girl, so I still perform and don't need Viagra. Having had the pleasure to experience time with over 100 women in my 54 years, I've kind of grown to like being able to have somewhat of a conversation with my current partner after sex. I'm turned on by sexy WOMEN, not sexy girls. Also, fool (and in the minority) that I am, I believe in the 10 Comandments, Golden rule......., being decent and proper. I'm not a holy roller by any means. I just walk a bit of a different path than most.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Lowell says on Jun 13, 2007, 06:56:

Dog My wife just read your message about my capacity and she's still rolling on the floor in a total laughing fit. Cheers!

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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cayita says on Jun 13, 2007, 08:16:

Lowell take some comfort in the fact that those who point a finger have four pointing back at them. So that should tell you something...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 13, 2007, 10:51:

That reminds me of something.... or somebody...hmmmmm?

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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calipro says on Jun 13, 2007, 11:09:

Desi There are so many variations on the theme prepago that I find it hard to define.

So here is a scenario and you tell me if the woman is a prepago.

A colombiano in his early forties is living with a colombiana in her early twenties. She lives with him in a nice house and he takes care of her very want and need.

He also pays rent on an apartment the she never lives in just so that he can say that she didn’t live with him for two year and claim to be a common law wife. On top of that he made her sign some papers so she could never lay claim to any of his business assets.

The colombiana would like nothing more than to marry the guy and I believe she really loves him. The guy on the other hand basically sees the relationship as sexual in nature and has other women on the side that she knows about but still hangs in there even though it pisses her off. .

That being said I don’t know if she would still be living with the guy if he wasn’t providing her with a very good lifestyle.

So is she a prepago or isn’t she?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 13, 2007, 12:12:

No she isn't she's more like the traditional mistress or a kept woman. BTW, you probably already know what I think about the guy. For her I feel just pity.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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calipro says on Jun 13, 2007, 13:55:

Another scenario

A guy in his mid forties meets a colombiana that is twenty years old through a mutual friend.

They all go out and have a good time. The guy asks the young lady for her phone number at the end of the night and she gives it to him thinking that he could end up being a good friend.

He calls her up a couple of nights later to have dinner and go dancing. She says OK knowing that she doesn’t have any plans that night.

She ends up having more fun than she ever expected. The guy is crazy, makes her laugh a lot and dances great. She surprises even herself and ends up spending the night at his place.

The guy calls her up and asks her out but she says that she can’t . Her mother and father are still pissed about her staying out all night and she has been fighting with her boyfriend for weeks because he has been spending more time with his friends than with her. She has heard that he is seeing someone else and just doesn’t feel like partying.

The guy calls her up again and asks her out and she says “no I’m to busy�.

She actually enjoyed going out with the guy but he is more than twenty years older than her and has an ex-wife and bunch of kids. And now that the relationship has crossed the line from friendship to sex, she just doesn’t see the point in continuing a relationship that can’t go anywhere.

The guy calls her up again and says he just wants to talk, and she finally gives in and says OK.

The guys tells her that he really enjoyed the night that they spent together and that he really cares for her and doesn’t want to let her go. He understands that this relationship will never lead to anything serious but that he would like to spend time with her anyway.

He knows that she has money problems and offers to pay her college tuition and take her shopping for clothes if she can manage to get away a couple of nights a week. She says OK.

Is she a prostitute or a prepago?

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raulinho says on Jun 13, 2007, 14:10:

EKDOG there is no problem with women dressing provocatively.... just not children it is disgusting and sends them the message that the only important thing is their bodies which in a child is really sad.

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Ctg Bound says on Jun 13, 2007, 14:16:

calipro Are you baiting Desi again, don't you get bored of it????

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Ekdog says on Jun 13, 2007, 15:05:

I don't really pay much attention to how children are dressed because I don't look upon them as sex objects, but Lowell was lashing out at the way Colombian women dress in general. He didn't limit his criticism to underaged girls. There are 13-year-olds over here that show a lot of skin in the summer. So what? Maybe they like to keep cool when it's 40ºCentigrade outside. Maybe they want to attract a 13-year-old boyfriend. I couldn't care less. It's none of my business.

When it comes to sexy women that are over 18 (more or less), I'm glad they wear sexy clothes. I like seeing as much of their sweet bodies as I can. I guess for a Christian like Lowell that means I'm a pervert, but I'm not a Christian and I feel comfortable with the fact that we are all sexual beings. To my way of thinking, it's natural for women to show what they've got and for me to enjoy the spectacle.

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Ekdog says on Jun 13, 2007, 15:10:

"I still perform and don't need Viagra."

"Having had...over 100 women in my 54 years..."

¡PERRO LADRADOR, POCO MORDEDOR!

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calipro says on Jun 13, 2007, 15:57:

Ctg Bound Actually I wasn't baiting Desi per se.

So feel free to answer the question yourself if you like.

I think I have given two cases of prepagos. One where the woman really and truely loves the guy and the other extreme where she is just some what attracted to the guy. I'm personally surprised to find that some of these relationships last years.

If the woman has absolutely no interest in the guy except for money then she is a prostitute in my opinion.

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podborski says on Jun 13, 2007, 16:51:

young women everywhere seem to be dressing ever more provocatively. I guess it's the whole Madonna, Britney, Paris influence?

I love to see women wear skimpy clothes where appropriate, which could be almost anywhere if it is scorching hot out, but generally a beach resort seems to be the place. I can't see why someone would want to wear a bikini walking downtown.

But as Desi mentioned (I think) some Colombianas will wear the lowest cut tops to an office setting, and where I come from that would be interpreted as someone who didn't know how to dress appropriately (professionally) and they'd be judged on that.

Colombian culture is clearly different though, so I am not sure how that plays there.

Personally, I much prefer that a lot be left to the imagination (I'm not talking about wearing a burlap bag of course).

I'd take a girl in jeans and a white tee shirt over the mini skirt and halter top, most of the time.

High heels look ridiculous to me.

And young kids (like pre-teens) wearing make-up and putting on adult style clothing is creepy. (Anyone see that movie Little Miss Sunshine? Tell me the kids in that fashion show at the end didn't look like freaks. I can't believe people do that to their kids in real life, but I'm pretty sure those kids were the real thing.)

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podborski says on Jun 13, 2007, 16:57:

kat you always make me laugh even when you are not trying to be funny:)

"but look at the tourist and they all are dribbling."

It's very subtle, but ask hubby to explain the difference between "dribbling" and "drooling".

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Proud_Canadian says on Jun 13, 2007, 18:59:

Around my neck of the woods... We call young girls who dress very sexy "prosti-tots".
They're everywhere. Most if not all, are just innocent girls trying to look older.....from what I see, anyways.

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podborski says on Jun 13, 2007, 19:11:

I'm sure they are innocent they are too young to know what they are doing.

But at that age the parents must be buying the clothes, so I blame the parents.

I have nieces so I understand you are going to have trouble telling a 16 year old girl what to wear, but 10 years old?

I don't think it's a crime, I just think it's weird. Why would you want your kid to pretend to look like a adult, other than on halloween?

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scandalous_33 says on Jun 13, 2007, 19:29:

So here's my question Are the girls that dress this way only interested in hooking older, married men? What are the chances that a decent looking 20-something has? Just curious, I'm finally coming down this fall for the first time in four years, and I think (actually I know) that Colombian women are the way to go. Five months and counting!



"Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."

"Nothing is real if you don't believe in who you are."

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goin_south says on Jun 13, 2007, 19:39:

crudes... and prudes; todos estas.

Voy para del Sur

I'D RATHER BE.........IN COLOMBIA :-))

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calipro says on Jun 13, 2007, 20:05:

LOL !!! scandalous

I don't think that there are many girls interested in ONLY hooking older men especially if they are married. LOL !!!

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elreydelostrolls says on Jun 13, 2007, 20:20:

I gotta hand to you, Lowell, one hundred chicks is pretty good for an old fart. I bet you could put a few more notches on the old woody before you're through. Stop bitching and start plowing some of them babes. It's always open season on hunting the two-legged deer.

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houstongal says on Jun 13, 2007, 20:42:

Do y'all really count your conquests?? How do you keep track?!

Culture is language and language is culture - Dr. Annamaria Napolitano

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Frank Rizzo says on Jun 13, 2007, 20:55:

Interesting calipro I find the first example something i'm kind of involved in. I know all about the 2 year rule for common law in colombia. Own considerable real estate there in cali and medellin. My lawyers required me to set something like that almost exactly. When in colombia she may stay over, though leave during the day. An apto. is kept in her name with a copy of that lease signed by her in my atty's office. Also, copies of the monthly bills she pays in her name, water, etc.

I wouldn't think about letting one move into one of my homes. Some striking similarity in your first story....

I don't know what label you want to put on it (prepago, etc.). The label I use is SAFETY !!!

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calipro says on Jun 13, 2007, 22:06:

Frank Rizzo Any similarity between your situation and the story is just coincidence.

I think the term "prepago" applies to any woman that requires a certain amount of financial consideration to stay in a relationship, even if it is only to compensate her for a lack of commitment on the guy’s part.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 13, 2007, 22:20:

That's not, however, how the word is generally used or understood in Colombia and the guy was asking for a standard definition of the word as used in Colombia and by Colombians.

I understand your point of view and we're in agreement that it can be interpreted that way. It's a question of semantics. Start a new thread if you wish to discuss the topic.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Frank Rizzo says on Jun 13, 2007, 22:42:

I'm sure you're right calipro as i really don't talk to gringos in colombia. I actually agree with you, on the way you define a prepago completely.

I've got a question for the board, how many colombian men (if transplanted to the US overnight) would buy into the social structure of the US. Marry for life, never another woman, etc.??

Now let's complicate the question and say wealthy colombian men??

I know a few wealthy ones that would not even comprehend this discussion, as they have the women at their feet daily. i'm not kidding either.

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calipro says on Jun 14, 2007, 00:15:

Desi is right about the first situation that you related to. Most Colombianos probably wouldn't classify the woman as a prepago.

The guy (publicly) avoids causing her any embarrassment what so ever by introducing her as his wife, even though (privately) he has done everything humanly possible to make sure that is never the case.

In the second example I was thinking at least some Americans would classify her as a prostitute even though she would be considered a prepago by colombian standards.

I admit that these are two extreme examples from one end of the spectrum to another and that vast majority of prepago relationships would fall somewhere in the middle.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 14, 2007, 07:17:

Back to Frank Rizzo's question about Colombian men and if they would buy into US/European society and behave like the average husband according to norms and mores that prevail in those societies:
I haven't seen any studies, I have only my own observations to base my opinions upon; yes, they do, in general terms, because the the marriage and the social norms are basically the same even if Latin men have a tendency to be players at their youth; sometimes even older they think they can get away with it if they have money.
Take a Colombian husband away from Colombia, transplant him and his Colombian wife , say, in Stockholm, Sweden, and lacking the
permissive societal norms and the Swedish young women looking askance on older, potbellied Colombianos trying to flirt with them, yes, they stay faithful even if it's because they have no choice.

Cheers,
Desi
(Like my disgusting, little crook of a brother-in-law in Cali likes to say: "El que no tiene mas con su mujer se acuesta" "He who has nobody else goes to bed with his wife". Little scum)

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Albatross says on Jun 14, 2007, 09:03:

Hmm... It's funny how a woman in her prime can do whatever she wants to a guy and he is never perceived as a "victim", but when that same woman gets dumped a few years later, society must cry her a river.

Similarly, you'll never hear a young woman in tight jeans, bustin' outta her blouse called a "sexual predator", but the guy who asks her out is a suspect.

But if you really want to know how hypocritical middle-aged western white women can be, go to Cuba, where they have no misgivings picking up young black Cubanos who, for a few beers and a little cash, will slobber all over them.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.�
- H.L. Mencken

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Albatross says on Jun 14, 2007, 09:12:

P.S. I don't see any difference between a "Pre-Pago" and a Prostitute.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.�
- H.L. Mencken

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Lowell says on Jun 14, 2007, 14:12:

not a conquest, no diary..... I've been single most of my life. I've enjoyed my time with these women and never looked on it as another trophy. It has never been punch and run. Can't a guy in 54 years enjoy women? Also, many of these women came on first.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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houstongal says on Jun 14, 2007, 14:29:

Didn't mean any harm... Probably shouldn't have used the word "conquest." Just curious if you kept a list or a record to know you were over 100.

Culture is language and language is culture - Dr. Annamaria Napolitano

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Ekdog says on Jun 14, 2007, 14:36:

Frank: "I've got a question for the board, how many colombian men (if transplanted to the US overnight) would buy into the social structure of the US. Marry for life, never another woman, etc.??"

How many American men buy into that? Only about 50% of marriages in the U.S. go the distance. The divorce rate is even higher, I understand, in the Bible Belt. I wouldn't venture a guess at how many gringos have mistresses, visit disorderly houses, etc.

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Frank Rizzo says on Jun 14, 2007, 15:48:

That's a good point EKDOG Most american men don't buy into it either. Such is life.

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Lowell says on Jun 14, 2007, 17:20:

Just fond memories and not just the sex part. I enjoy remembering their names, where we were, what we were doing. Some use music to remember when. I use women.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Frank Rizzo says on Jun 14, 2007, 17:25:

jajajajajaja....I love this board.. "I use women.

By Lowell at Fri, 06/15/2007 - 00:20 | reply"

This place is great. I'm not being sarcastic either.

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elreydelostrolls says on Jun 14, 2007, 19:25:

"Just fond memories and not just the sex part. I enjoy remembering their names, where we were, what we were doing. Some use music to remember when. I use women."

You player, dude! Who'da thought, Lowell, the gamer!

Yo tambien, dude. Recuerdo las chuchas, todas son diferentes. Do you like to hum "Thanks for the Memories" while you're remembering them?

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zlcraz6 says on Sep 21, 2007, 00:58:

all you people crack me up !!

maybe ill have this kinds of stories when im yah ages.

but i do have any thing maybe yah can help me answer......

so i have 2 girls in colombian there nice girls who go to school know my cousin ect ect not slut or anything like that, but when i got o colombia well i always manage to bring out there other side but i do take them out to eat ect ect. so what do u all think ?? is going on here ?? with this ladies ?

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Chelesupercono says on Sep 21, 2007, 08:58:

I just returned form the United States and I can tell you that there is no problem with seeing sexy young teenage girls or any sexy women period......it is the most disgusting display of womenhood in the world!!!! They are fokin HUGE!!!! I mean HIPPO size everywhere you look......so if anyone is wondering why a tourist is drooling at the super hot Colombianas? Well, I can tell you that when I am in the U.S. I just forget about women until I arrive back in Super Hot Latina Country...... where women are women and men are men!!! Those womens lib GRINGAS are as foked up as a soup sandwich!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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tampavallenato says on Sep 21, 2007, 10:21:

It seems to me that there are alot more women in Colombia than men. I think that this leads to all that many of you have talked about in this post. Less men than women would make the women in Colombia compete for mens attention. Add a little poverty to the mix and women will put their best assettes to work for their own needs. Can't say I blame them. Do the math, lets see, work very hard at a job all month witha boss yelling at me for $150 a month or hang out wiith a man with money who will give me more money just for hooking up with him while he takes me out to nice places and buys me nice things to boot.

Ay Hombe!!!

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mranderson says on Sep 21, 2007, 13:54:

I thought a prepago was just an expensive prostitute. I had a discussion about this in an english class. They told me the average prostitute was 20.000 pesos and the average prepago was more like 200.000 pesos.

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Chelesupercono says on Sep 21, 2007, 18:48:

Pre-pago, Post-pago, Penny-Pago......it really does not matter what you call them.....lets face there is and never will be any Free ..ussy.....if it is, you probably would not want it !!!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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pedro says on Sep 22, 2007, 14:07:

We need to put up a pre-pago FAQ.

A prostitute has a steady ho-ing job or place of business -- walking the street, an apartment or a strip club, for example.

A pre-pago has a regular lifestyle, but she hooks up or is hooked up with clients discreetly.

Essentially the difference is that the prostitute's customers are usually "walk up", the pre-pago is by arrangement.

que nota!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2007, 15:02:

I can't believe that I just read through this whole thread...

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2007, 15:41:

Desi did you know that now apart from prepagos there are also pico y placa? according to them they are more "vip" than prepagos cuz they are more "intellectual"" jajajajja

engage brain before opening mouth

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2007, 15:50:

Oh dear, I didn't know that. So, they only work on certain days of the week?

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Sep 22, 2007, 15:52:

no,,, hours of the day, just pico y placa hours....huh!!!

engage brain before opening mouth

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Chelesupercono says on Sep 22, 2007, 17:03:

I love it !!!....the work schedule of a prostitute,,,,,,,,,this is by far the best posting in a long time.....Viva Colombia!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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john_stark says on Sep 22, 2007, 22:25:

If I was a chick I'd be a total slut. I'd be a bisexual lesbian slut.

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campbell says on Sep 23, 2007, 01:10:

i did not read this post, but i for one think that john stark is the funniest person on this site hands down

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campbell says on Sep 23, 2007, 01:10:

possible en el mundo

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Chelesupercono says on Sep 23, 2007, 08:40:

Hey Lowell, Just 100 bulls eyes in 54 years? What happened?.....if you look at that number from a mathematical perspective it is not good my friend......I am not criticizing you..... just think if you start at age 18 and divide the 100 by the remaining 36 years of doing the nasty.....the YEARLY AVERAGE is a paltry 2.7 Nappy Headed Ho's per year!!!! That is a starvation diet in any language!!!! If it would help your cause I would be happy to do a post and request any advice, performance assistance, sexual toys and or instruction that all of the PBH crew would be more than willing to provide....jejejejejejejeje

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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Lowell says on Sep 24, 2007, 06:16:

Yep, pretty poor. One defence is that 2 marriages were mixed in with that. Never was much of a chaser.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Chelesupercono says on Sep 25, 2007, 09:38:

OK anyone have some helpful advice for our friend Lowell? .......and please don't crash the site...jejejejej

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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Lowell says on Sep 25, 2007, 10:39:

Na, too late, too little interest and too many bad experiences. More interested in peace of mind and tranqulity now than pussy.

And back on the subject of temptaion and teenagers involed in sex, Sunday one of the local booze stores offered me the chance to go have some fun with a few pretty 14-15 year old girls. Oddly enough, he was surprised when I said no thanks.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Chelesupercono says on Sep 25, 2007, 11:26:

Yep! I know what you mean....I am pretty much in the same place.....been there done that!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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john_stark says on Sep 25, 2007, 20:25:

"And back on the subject of temptaion and teenagers involed in sex, Sunday one of the local booze stores offered me the chance to go have some fun with a few pretty 14-15 year old girls. Oddly enough, he was surprised when I said no thanks."

What? Were they giving them away with the purchase of six pack?

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Lowell says on Sep 26, 2007, 06:48:

yea, of condoms

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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