Tell me about Quinceanero?

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 6, 2007, 10:40:

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 6, 2007, 10:41:

analyzethis1 says on Jul 6, 2007, 10:54:

Oh yeah the archives forgot 'bout them! Let's see if customs have changed...hmmmm...

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msaucey says on Jul 6, 2007, 11:48:

Well, I've always thought the whole concept of Quincianera and Sweet Sixteens a horrible thing for girls... It's supposed to be their "Coming of Age" introduction to society.... It was originally okay for girls to marry at the age of 15 or 16.... So, the parents through this huge party to introduce their daughter to society and prospective husbands... The bigger the party the more prospects.... I think a lot of people have forgotten the true meaning and now just think it's a cool party... Also, comparable to a jewish boys barmizpha (I know it's spelled wrong)... Anyway, I will never have one for my kids....

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 6, 2007, 12:30:

jaja Morphus that is what they said!!! so my daughter is becoming a woman in august arggggggggggg

In England they only celebrate 21, when i told her about the 15 in Colombia she was up for the party!!! but only if it is on her terms, meaning nothing fancy, only metal music, no adults, huh!!

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 6, 2007, 12:31:

now that is not becoming a woman that is becoming a pain in the a**

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analyzethis1 says on Jul 6, 2007, 13:06:

msaucey...personally, it's a good thing then that nowadays the event is for the sake of just having a party with other teens rather than putting these young girls on a pedestal up for bidding-ugh! I'm glad the majority of Colombians then are not so traditional in this sense...I assume?

kat, how on earth could your daughter like heavy metal? Is there another side to you that we don't know about? Do you have posters of Metallica in your room? Do you wear black and have secret tattoos and slip on your nose/brow/lip rings on at night? :-o

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 6, 2007, 13:17:

analy1 she dye her hair black, blue black, no tattoos no way i won't let her, yes black he rfavourite color, she was talking about piercin her belly button, i told her over my dead body mate!! i think she is going through one of the teen stages, i am looking forward for the next one :( (((

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 6, 2007, 13:34:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 6, 2007, 13:38:

she loves metallica, slipknot Artic monkeys, death cab for cuties, enter shikari, hawthorne


huh!
my 19 year old nephew also love metallica.....

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bueno_pues says on Jul 6, 2007, 16:46:

Es una fiesta en el dia cuando la muchacha pierde su virgenidad.

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Proud_Canadian says on Jul 6, 2007, 17:30:

I went to one last weekend. I'll try and post some pics for ya..and maybe a video or two. It's basically like a Western wedding, but for her 15th bday. Quite the thing I must say.

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bueno_pues says on Jul 6, 2007, 19:03:

Las quinceaneras son normales en Texas para los Mexicanos.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 7, 2007, 00:34:

QuinceanerA, not QuinceanerO

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 7, 2007, 00:43:

Quinceañeras

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 7, 2007, 00:45:

ññññ............un poco flojito...y borracho.....ajajajaj...

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 05:42:

Metal is cool????

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 05:44:

I'd rather listen to trad jazz.

...and that's saying something.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 7, 2007, 07:59:

I don't recall anybody using the word "quinceañera" referring to the party, just to the girl, in Cali. When they talk about the party, thy usually say "fiesta de los quince" there. I had a fifteen-year-old party for my daughter in Cali.

Cheers,
Desi

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bueno_pues says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:14:

En Texas ellos refieren a la fiesta para la palabra "quinceañera". Pero realmente es la muchacha.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:50:

For most mexicans,( living in california) quinceañera is the party itself, which is given for the girl in her honor. Nowadays, though, the party is more important to the guests attending than the "transformation" of the girl....the original honor is only really valued by the girls family......and it can be just as expensive as a wedding....depending on the financial situation of the parents.....

and to many, it just means the girl is fair game after that....=(

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 7, 2007, 11:03:

Yes, I understood that Mexicans use the word quinceañera for the party itself, perhaps in some areas in Colombia they do to, but it was first here in theis forum I saw the word used in that sense the first time.

In Colombia is like coming of age party. My daughter had tons of fun and a busy social season after the party, but we only satyed a month and a half afterwards and she left a couple of broken hearts behind. My daughter was never "fair game" for old geezers after the party, but was free to date boys of her age or just a few years older. Which she did, every night, under adult supervision, of course!!! (Most of the time)

Cheers,
Desi

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 7, 2007, 11:08:

by fair game i didnt mean old geezers...jajjaja....wishful thinking on their part......but boys her age, who would love to be the first.......16 year old girls pushing babystrollers to the malls in California are a very common sight.....=)....much to common......=(

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 11:23:

One of my Colombian sisters-in-law got married when she was 14.

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LA_MONA says on Jul 7, 2007, 12:12:

Uy pobresita

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 12:20:

No- quite the reverse. 40 years on they're still together and very much in love.

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miamimike says on Jul 7, 2007, 12:38:

They are a big deal in Miami, several local organizers and caterers for these events.

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 8, 2007, 02:24:

My first quince - (not mine but one I was invited to) was in Homestead (Miami). HUGE party. Probably 100 family members. It was a Mexican family. The men cooked meat over wood fired grills. The women prepared everything else. Lots of drinking ... but exclusively among the adults, believe it or not. And then dancing afterwords. It was a very important event for that family, and took place in 1998 in the Naranja part of Homestead. I had a great time just watching and learning.

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msaucey says on Jul 9, 2007, 11:10:

On the topic of "quinceañera" or "fiesta de los quince".... Is there a difference on the financing of it?.... I've only attended a Mexican "quinceañera" in California.... But, apparently all of the family chip in... There's a "Padrino/Padrina" for the cake, or the dress, or the hall... By the end, there's like 20 or 30 names of families on the pamphlet of all the Padrinos and Padrinas... is it the same in Colombia for the "fiesta de los quince"...

I always found that odd....

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 9, 2007, 11:48:

I don't really know. I think it's the family, the parents that pay most of it, of course. I paid most of my daughter's expenses, the grandparents helped a little, but ours was a small and informal affair, with just about 40 young people and closest family invited and held at home (grandparent's house).

Cheers,
Desi

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 9, 2007, 11:56:

for mexicans, it depends on the financial situation of the family and extended family....historically the parents paid, but since the cost of the event has skyrocketed ( i have been to some as elaborate as a high society wedding where $20K is not unusual, and others which were were beer and chicken/rice affairs), other family members and even friends of the family may opt to help out.....same with burials, btw, as others will chip in for a headstone if the family cant afford a respectful one..... i paid for the headstone for my compadres when they were both killed at a young age.....

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 9, 2007, 12:23:

I never had a 15 birthday party, i didn't want one, instead I went with my family to Cartagena.

but some of my friends have the most wonderful parties, one of them choose me and 3 other friends as her kind of bridemaids we have to wear the same dress all the same color and our partners have to wear DJ's, the party was in the El club the militares, and there was like 100 people.. everything must had cost a fortune!!! as a present her parents gave her a trip to the USA

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 9, 2007, 12:25:

And a Colombian friend of my daughter, her 15th birthday was last year and her parents gave her an scotter but the proper one i think it cost 2 or 3 million pesos

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msaucey says on Jul 9, 2007, 13:01:

See, I could totally understand like a scooter for her 15th birthday... I got braces for my 15th and a used Audi for my 16th... But, an elaborate party that costs thousands, I just don't understand... I too, had the misfortune of being in one of these elaborate quinceañeras, and my dress cost me like $350 dollars and this was like 15 years ago, I'm sure they're still up in that ball price... and there was 15 couples in the presentation with all of the choreographed dances... I think the family is probably still paying it off... It was nuts!

But, oh well....

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goin_south says on Jul 10, 2007, 21:43:

Las quinceaneras son normales en Texas para los ..... Puerto Riquenas.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 10, 2007, 21:49:

dont let Kat see that, GS! use the alt 164 key on your keyboard....


ñ...ñ....ñ.....quinceañeras.......Riqueñas......she is the new SpellCheckerPolicia......la Jefa!

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goin_south says on Jul 10, 2007, 22:01:

okay....quincean...yyyyyy-eras.... no tengo una keyboard espanol! no quiero visitar el altavista!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 10, 2007, 22:25:

you dont have to, G...try pushing the larger "alt" button on your keyboard next to/left of the space bar, hold it down, then push 1-6-4 on your number pad ..then release...oila......ñ to your hearts desire...heres is a cheat sheet for ya....(all this is for a US keyboard):

Spanish Letter/Accent Symbols

Á á É é Í í Ó ó Ú ú Ñ ñ
™ at ¿ ¡ © ® ±

Topics in Basic Latin Symbols and ASCII Character Set
Type in Spanish on an English Keyboard
Following are the key combinations on an English keyboard that should be used in order to provide the correct Spanish accent. In this way you don't have to insert special characters (i.e. Insert menu, Symbol, select Symbol tab, normal text for Font) or to add them later by hand.
PC Compatible Platform
Make sure the Num Lock on the keypad at the right of your keyboard is on. Hold down the ALT key while at the same time typing the following numbers on the keypad. The character will appear when you lift the ALT and finish typing the numbers.
• ALT 160 = á ALT 0169 = ©
• ALT 0193 = Á ALT 0174 = ®
• ALT 130 = é ALT 0153 = ™
• ALT 144 = É ALT 0177 = ±
• ALT 161 = í
• ALT 0205 = Í
• ALT 162 = ó
• ALT 0211 = Ó
• ALT 163 = ú
• ALT 0218 = Ú
• ALT 164 = ñ
• ALT 165 = Ñ
• ALT 168 = ¿
• ALT 173 = ¡

anything to keep Kat1 and the PBH Spellcheck Police away!! jajaja..

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 10, 2007, 22:29:

• ALT 160 = á ALT 0169 = ©
• ALT 0193 = Á ALT 0174 = ®
• ALT 130 = é ALT 0153 = ™
• ALT 144 = É ALT 0177 = ±
• ALT 161 = í
• ALT 0205 = Í
• ALT 162 = ó
• ALT 0211 = Ó
• ALT 163 = ú
• ALT 0218 = Ú
• ALT 164 = ñ
• ALT 165 = Ñ
• ALT 168 = ¿
• ALT 173 = ¡
i dont know why the two columns joined together like that, but the first four entries have conjoined entries.....ALT 169, 0174, 0153 and 0177 should have a column of their own....weird....

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goin_south says on Jul 10, 2007, 23:21:

that never works for me.
dell? hp? no...se.
THEY KNOW WHAT I MEAN :), ....anyway.

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houstongal (Trustee board) says on Jul 11, 2007, 06:30:

That's OK GS...it doesn't work for me on my laptop, but I have regular keyboard attached and for some reason it works on that. See... ñ, ó, í But before I could make this work, I had to change something in my settings on the laptop. I'm sure there must be some computer expert who could tell you how to change your settings.

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