Teaching - studying in Cali

cappucchino says on Dec 8, 2004, 04:16:

may i can help you... I will go to work in the kindergarten in cali, too!!! Ähm... I`ll work at the Colegio aleman de cali... may you could try it there. or just imform you at the school, which is called english net. i don`t know the dirrection, but they are taking english speakers as teachers.

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Calena67 says on Dec 8, 2004, 09:19:

All the time Yes, I remember saw several announcements for jobs in teaching English, they looked for native English speakers or perfect English speakers, not matter you they did not have experience like a teacher, so, Good luck.

And Congratulation Cappucchino, Colegio Aleman is one of the best schools.

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cappucchino says on Dec 8, 2004, 09:38:

really?? Its one of the best?? i didnt know it? but... ok now im happy. :) i was very frigthened that it will be bad, but now... thanks!

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Lionheart says on Dec 8, 2004, 11:42:

English or German teacher? Cappucchino, which language will you be teaching there?

I have Colegio Aleman on my list as well, but I plan to contact them in person once I am in Cali. I don't have a teacher's degree and therefore can't get a work visa as teacher.

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rash9000 says on Dec 8, 2004, 11:48:

Spain it's no an option.
People are rude in there, and they still belive they are a potency...

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shanghaikate says on Dec 9, 2004, 01:11:

thanks to all the people who replied to my question of teaching kindergarten in Cali. Now that i know there are opportunities to work, I feel even more excited to go. Does anyone know what the pay is like? Working hours and conditions? I'm an Australian who has been working and studying in China for the past 5 years, I am also not a qualified teacher, however my years of experience should count for something right? does anyone know anything about obtaining a visa? is it difficult to get a work visa? what are the requirements?
thanks again

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shanghaikate says on Dec 9, 2004, 01:17:

native english speaker I hope to be teaching in my native language english, my spansih speaking level will be very very low :) I am also fluent in Chinese, but I doubt there are any Eng/Chinese kindergartens over there! Do you have a website for any of these schools you mentioned? I'd like to contact with them before I arrive.

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cappucchino says on Dec 9, 2004, 06:16:

they will pay me 350 000 pesos because im not a teacher and i just will work in kindergarten. i wont teach the children any language i just will contact them with my german culture. for example i will sing songs to them wich are from germany (and in the german languege or course) :))
and i will get a visa for doing practices in cali, not for a job of course (thats one reason why ill be so low-paid). yes... thats all. ah, and it is interesting that they offert me that they will help mi to find a flat if i wouldn`t know where to sleep.
thats all.

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caslug says on Dec 9, 2004, 09:24:

350k peso? how many hours? last time i was in Cali, one of the langauge school director said the rate for native english teacher was between 10-20k peso/hr. So at 30 hrs a week that would be between 1.2-2.4mil peso/mo, which is a decent income to live on. $350k peso/month is very low, that's the average a COL makes a month.

BUT the difficult part he told me was getting the hours, because they initial unless they recruited you, you won't get many hours right away. They give the hours to teachers that have worked for them for a while. Also, another option to look at is barter, you teach 1 hr for 1 hr of spanish lessons, or something like that.

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Skippy says on Dec 9, 2004, 10:10:

Cali Good Day. I am living in Medellin right now. I am teaching English here, but would like to teach in Cali as well. Possibly next January. I have 6 years teaching experience and have a TEFL certificate. What are my chances finding work in one of the institutes? Is Cali expensive to live in? I imagine it is the same as Medellin.

Yup

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caslug says on Dec 9, 2004, 10:35:

Shane.. HEY how much are theying paying in MED? I looked into teaching in both BOG/CALI, in BOG i was told 10-12k peso/hr at institute, schools maybe more. With your background, i don't think you'll have any problems. The trick is to get enough hours and sometimes one place might not be able to give enough hours.

Also, i would imagine that Cali being smaller than BOG would have less people learning english, one of the school (meyers institute) let their last native speaker go and never replace the teacher. So i can't imagine CALI being the hotbed of english in COL.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 9, 2004, 10:47:

teaching in Cali last time I asked (two years ago) there was a huge deficit of English teachers in Cali. I was offered a job teaching, people asked if my children would be interested in teaching jobs, an old employee of mine who I didn't even know to speak English that well was teaching at the Colombo. There's always been a lot of people who wanted to learn English in Cali.
About teaching kindergarten:
350 000 Col pesos a month is low, even if it's not full-time. I imagine the poster was referring to a part-time position (3-5 hrs/day). We had a bilingual nursery school and kindergarten plus three elementary grades in Cali a long time ago, and were paying more than the minimum wage then for three-hour positions. We were paying more than that to our qualified elementary teachers with little or no English at all! Our native English-speaking teachers with no formal degree in teaching but a college degree in other things, part-time, made about double of that, and we considered ourselves lucky to get people who didn't charge hourly wages.
People who taught English privately made a fairly decent salary working just maybe 20 hrs/week.
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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caslug says on Dec 9, 2004, 11:09:

agree.. that private teaching/tutoring usually pay double the regular rate. The challange is to build up your client base, but like any business that takes time. So newbie teachers have to stick around and be patience. Next time i'm in CALI i'll checkout more english schools for my ongoing research.

$350k/mo is less than $200USD/mo! That's very low pay for a foreigner to try to live on, do they provide housing and food? Guess that'll be OK if they did, otherwise you'll dipping into savings to get by.

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cappucchino says on Dec 10, 2004, 00:34:

i know that it is low, but im not really working there, just doing a stage. and i will live with friends. and they know it. they told me that they cannot pay me more, because if i would get more money id need the permision to work and its dificult with getting the visa then... dont know if thats true... but i want to know the country and because of this its not so important for me how much they are paying (i know thats sounds crazy...)

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Skippy says on Dec 10, 2004, 07:33:

Not True I have to tell you that you are being taken for a ride. They are not paying what you are worth. I make about 2 million a month and I do not work all the time.

The visa story is a way to keep you in check.
Just a warning to know your worth.

Yup

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cappucchino says on Dec 10, 2004, 07:44:

do you think so? ok, what do you think, how much should they pay me? i have no education for teaching children or for going to be in kindergarten and i will work 4 hours a day-five days a week. (and im really young-i didnt learn anything else...)

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Gator says on Dec 10, 2004, 09:13:

Colegio Aleman is mostly German. (Desi) While Colegio Aleman (The German School) is very good most classes are in German. A couple of very good English-only type schools are Colombo Britanico, Jefferson in Yumbo and Bolivar. All these have most classes in English. Berchmans (boys, Liceo Benalcazae, (girls) are a couple of bilingual that are very good, and expensive, as are Hispanoamericano, Juanambu and Bennett.

This is a personal opinion and I would like Desi's imput.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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caslug says on Dec 10, 2004, 09:14:

Cap, if you have.. savings then you'll need to dip into it to survive. Shane knows more about the whole structure, i would agree w/ him that it SOUNDS like you are being taken advantage of. A suggestion would be go to CALI, take job, BUT start looking RIGHT AWAY at other schools and if you are a native speaker(ENGLISH or DEUTSCH) AND have a 4 yr degree, then you shouldn't have to much trouble. BUT many schools will want you to have a work visa, otherwise you might be able to talk them into paying you under the table.

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cappucchino says on Dec 10, 2004, 09:33:

hm... thats the problem with my education im not able to get a work visa... and do you think really that somebody will pay me more than 350 000 pesos under the table?? i dont know, but i dont think so...

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caslug says on Dec 10, 2004, 09:44:

Cap, reagarding under table... Just ask at the different schools, the worst thing that will happen is they say NO, then goto the next school. If CALI really has a desperate need for foreign teacher, then you'll find on that will take you in w/o visa. Either way, please keep us post on the "marketing situation" for foreign teachers in Cali. BTW, are you teaching German or English?

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adrimm says on Dec 10, 2004, 09:58:

Sounds like german Prev reference to German songs.

What about private conversation lessons? Easier to run under the table.

And Cap, look at it this way, you now are gaining experience. Correct?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 10, 2004, 10:07:

Bilingual schools in Cali Gator has already listed most of the reputable bilingual schools in Cali. There's one more, called Diana Oese also located in Pance, they have a nice homepage too, but I didn't save the link. Yes, Colombo Britanico, Bolivar, Jefferson and Bennett are all good, expensive, private bilingual schools with a long tradition in Cali, and all of them pay decent salaries to their teachers. I would check out with them for a kindergarten teaching position though, for they might not have qualified personnel both bilingual and with a teaching certificate in Early Childhood Education. They would definitely pay you more than that minimum wage salary.
Colegio Alemán is a school with a long tradition and high standards, though sometimes critized for hard discipline. Liceo Francés Paul Valery is another bilingual school (French-Spanish).
I didn't even know that Berchman has become bilingual or Liceo Belalcázar. They are certainly excellent schools both, with a long tradition and high educational standards.
New bilingual schools get started every now and then in Cali, often with very little English and dubious standards. They don't last long, since people will pull out their kids from a "bilingual" school that is not seriously bilingual, but rather just a business idea.
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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cappucchino says on Dec 10, 2004, 10:09:

i wanted to work in the kindergarten. i m not so selfconfident that id say that i could teach somebody. but if i taught, i would teach the german language. but i think that im not able to do so...

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caslug says on Dec 10, 2004, 10:17:

Cap, if your employer is going.. to pay you 350k peso/mo w/o a work visa he's already paying you under the table so paying more or less really wouldn't matter. As you said, maybe that's all they can afford definitely check and ask other schools for part time position. If you have savings or income from Germany then you'll be fine, then you'll have great experience and the pay they give you is beer/party money. However if that is what you plan to live on, then that's a WHOLE different situation.

BTW, another poster on this board(christinia) is in BOG studying spanish and working part time, w/ a student visa.

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cappucchino says on Dec 10, 2004, 10:22:

ok. yeah, i have savings in germany and ill live with friends there (i dont have to pay nothing for the flat). i think i should wait and see what the time will bring me.. thanx at everybody who posted here.

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Skippy says on Dec 10, 2004, 14:54:

Under the table ???? Don't forget where you are. This is South America. People curve the rules here every day to get things done. I think you should be paid a million at least. I work 6 hours a day 5 days a week and make two million.

Know your rights. You have something to offer.

Yup

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Gator says on Dec 10, 2004, 19:13:

Sorry 'bout That My post was a little misleading. Berchman and Liceo Belalcázar are not bi-linguial as most of us use the word but they have some English instruction. I was going on what are considered the "best." Thanks for catching that, Desi.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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emilyh says on Dec 10, 2004, 19:34:

the visa Sorry, what do you mean that with your education you won't be able to get a work visa?

I'm off to Cali myself, and as I understood it, if I can get a position teaching then I just need them to write some letters confirming the position etc. and take it outside the country to get my work visa. (also, Im currently getting a police check and stuff like that while still here in Oz)

I just haven't heard of this education requirement, what does it entail? I've just completed a business degree and received a TESOL certificate in November, will this be fine? By Shane's postings it sounds like it will be??

Also, Shane, I think you mentioned a while back that you were teaching in a company or maybe an MNC? Did you get this position through already having experience and using word-of-mouth, or did you apply directly to companies?

Em :)

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shanghaikate says on Dec 11, 2004, 03:10:

oz are u australian also? did you get a teaching job without a university degree? I am also unqualified to teach, however i have experoence teaching chilldren, do u think it will be easy for me to find a job in Cali teaching kids english?

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shanghaikate says on Dec 11, 2004, 03:14:

cali kindergaten hi! when will you arrive in Cali? and how did you get your teaching job there? is there a website you can reccomend which can help me connect with the school in Cali to send my resume?

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Skippy says on Dec 11, 2004, 05:51:

Work Visa I would say....forget the work visa. It is a long and difficult and expensive process. You can work in Colombia illegaly. Some schools may require that you have a work visa and for others it just doesn't matter. It is cool to have a work visa if your school is helping you with your apartment though, but usually that doesn't matter.

For Colombia, there is a law that if you apply for a work visa to teach English you must be an actual teacher. Forget that. A TEFL certificate is fine. You can find a shool eventually that will take you on or you can work like me privately. It is all word of mouth and getting material from the internet.

Just be patient. I hope to be in Cali in January as well to find a little work. Maybe we can pool our resources.

Yup

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webmanco says on Dec 11, 2004, 06:01:

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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webmanco says on Dec 11, 2004, 06:10:

Here is the link for Diana Oese as mentioned by Desideria El Jardín Bilingüe Diana

By reading this post I see there could be a nice meet-up in Cali for posters of PBH (Poor but happy) With the time and with the help of technology we could even held simultaneous meet ups of posters about Colombia in different cities in the world.

Just an idea.
Pedro.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Skippy says on Dec 11, 2004, 06:35:

Great !!!!! I think this is a great idea. I know Cali, like Medellin has a lot of transiant travellers. People who come for a couple of weeks and then split. It would be great to meet other people who are looking to live in Cali for 6 months to a year. Help each other out. For example : I don't have a place to live in Cali. I will be living in a hotel. Maybe I can meet someone to help me out. Some of the best times I have ever had has been meeting people from the States.
Let's do it. Kick off next year eh !!!!

Yup

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Mi_lukea says on Dec 11, 2004, 16:44:

Shane Hi

Where are you from? What area of Cali are you considering living in? What area will you be working in?

lukita

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shanghaikate says on Dec 11, 2004, 19:59:

visa great idea, i have a friend in Cali now how is helping me find some schools to contact...keep in touch

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cappucchino says on Dec 12, 2004, 02:53:

im from germany when i finish my school, ill go to cali. for this i cannot get a work visa (a work visa means the just i can do the job and no other person from colombia; so thats not posible... i learned nothing!) how can i work illegal?? wouldn`t they punish me if i do this?
i got in touch with the school because of a friend of mine, who is colombiano. he told me that this school is really great. so i asked if i could work there...

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Skippy says on Dec 12, 2004, 07:35:

It's simple Just go around the schools with your resume and talk to the directors. Sooner or later someone will offer you something. I assume Cali like Medellin does not have a lot of people who want to live there. It has a lot of people who stay for a month maybe two then move on. ç

I know nothing about Cali, where to live or where to work. This is how I have been living my life for the last 4 years. I buy a ticket for a country I am interested in, get a hotel and begin the job search. So far everything has worked out okay.

Cappucchino. I don't want to offend you, you seem like a very genuine person, but your need to take a TEFL course in English. You made some HUGE grammar errors in your writing. It might be a good idea, because students are going to ask you questions about verb tenses, reported speech, passive voice, prepostions, the proper use of anything and nothing in a sentence. If you don't know that stuff oh man.....it could be a long class.

Now, I am far from being a great teacher, I am still learning even though I have been teaching for 5 years. I have made a huge amount of mistakes in classes. It takes a lot of practice and experience to becaome a great teacher.

Yup

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cappucchino says on Dec 13, 2004, 00:30:

ähm.... i know my english is really bad, but i dont want to teach english in colombia! if i teach a language, it would be german. thats my mother tounge and for this i wouldnt do so many mistakes.

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glacierdaz says on Dec 13, 2004, 14:55:

Legalization of documents Make damn sure you legalize all your paperwork before leaving your home country. I am in Bogota with all my necessary papers, but they had not been legalized in Canada. I may have to go to plan B and leave here.

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cappucchino says on Dec 13, 2004, 23:50:

shure that i will do this! i know the problems the papers could make. (friends of mine had problems) i wont leave my country until me papers are surely legalized. but thanks for your warning!!

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Stevvey says on Dec 21, 2004, 17:23:

Advice For Work In Cali I have been teaching english in Cali for 2 years - PLEASE dont work at the Colegio Diana Oese - they are a complete nightmare school. They treat you like shit and give you a ridiculous number of hours. Everyone I know whoo worked there tried to get out ASAP.

stevvey at fastmail.fm

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shanghaikate says on Jan 3, 2005, 00:56:

Colegio Diana Oese Stevvey, thanks for your advice. are you also teaching children? was it difficult for you to get a work visa? (if you have one). if you have any more advice or stories you'd like to share with me, feel free to email me at kate_noble at hellokitty.com i am very interested to hear about life as a teaching in Cali. thanks.

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diana67 says on May 18, 2005, 13:09:

lookinf for work Im seeking English teaching job in cali colombia

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jaigon56 says on Jun 3, 2005, 10:07:

Don´t worry Hollow friends I am Colombian and live here in Cali, right now I think that you can find a Job here because some people like me want to learn English whit native speakers and so many institutes hire Spanish natives that speak English and the majority of people hopes a native speaker, right now I am studying English and I wish to have the experience to learn whit a native speaker, please don't worry if you don speak Spanish, you will come he to teach English and is not you business speak Spanish and this make that de students effort more and learn faster.
I wish also have the opportunity to have a change to make a intensive English course in North America for tree months but all courses that I fund are very expensive, do you now some shipper courses?.
To people that will arrive here, if you can, me and my wife can help you like tourist guide in the weekends, more than money we want to share whit native English speakers to improve our English.
You can write me at jaigon56 at yahoo.com
Tanks a look.
Sorry by my bad English
I give you some direction to look a job in clleges and institutes here in Cali
www.britishschoolcolombia.com
www.coldianaoese.edu.co
www.kissenglish.com.co
www.britenglish.com
www.careysls.com
www.learnenglish.com
www.berlitz.com.co

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jbyron1734 says on Jun 26, 2005, 10:12:

Visa jbyron1734 at yahoo.com

You can work with your tourist visa, but every 3 months you need to get an extention with D.A.S
Its not like the US, you just work, you get paid and that its---
Talk to them, my exwife did it for 6 months, i forgot how much they pay but is better that an average salary.

jbyron1734@yahoo.com

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jbyron1734 says on Jun 26, 2005, 10:21:

i forgot jbyron1734 at yahoo.com

Dont mention that you are working when you go to DAS---
and other thing, be carefull where are you going to live, tell what neighborhood and i will tell you if is safe for an american to live there.
The only reason is that for us, even is dangerous we learned how to live with it...
but for an american that is not used to, can be really hard.
Good luck

jbyron1734@yahoo.com

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hbratovich says on Aug 5, 2005, 09:48:

Teaching in Cali If you are interested in teaching English in Cali or Colombia we can offer you our International TEFL Certificate course that will equip you with the necessary tools to be able to teach English in Colombia and around the world. We have a training center in Cali, Bogota and Barranquilla. visit our web site www.estudiosexterior.com - teacher training division. We also offer job placement services, housing and airport pick up services. We have a network of institutions around the country where you can offer your services. We can also inform you of the best paying options in local language centers, high schools and universities. Teaching English in Colombia is a great experience and Colombia will offer you things no other countries can. The people, the weather, the tourist attractions, the food, the music and the culture!!

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Humberto says on Sep 2, 2005, 07:15:

350.000 ARE YOU CRAZY Capuccino working for 350.000 a month is insane, I graduated from Jefferson School worked over seas and then went back to Colombia I was working ELS which changed it's name and I was making about that with 2 1.5hour periods a day. Now private schools pay much better and help their teachers around with housing and besides you meet other really cool teachers that at some point were on the same situation as you will be.

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Humberto says on Sep 2, 2005, 07:24:

COLEGIO JEFFERSON the website is
http://www.jefferson.edu.co
Enjoy.

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Mi_lukea says on Nov 2, 2005, 04:24:

teaching in Cali Hi

I was living in Cali, Colombia for 3 months this year and I discovered that you need way more then a TEFL to teach in Colombia at the above mentioned schools ... any American or British backed school is "highly" unliklely to hire a teacher who does not have a bachelors degree in teaching!

I had a wonderful conversation with 3 directors of very exclusive high schools in Colombia and they all said the same thing ... things have changed!

So I think if you are really serious about wanting to be a teacher in Cali, Colombia then get serious and get a degree!

SUERTE!

m

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Jessica Z says on Nov 19, 2005, 20:24:

Housing? Humberto how are teachers provided with housing? I am moving to Cali next year and I don't have any idea which are the good neighboorhoods or the good schools to work at. Can you give me an idea of how this works, the housing I mean?

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caslug says on Nov 20, 2005, 15:57:

Jessica..if you are recruited by the school, they´ll.. find a place for you that is safe. Many of the better school will provide you with FREE housing. You better check when the school year starts, because if you come AFTER the school year starts, you´ll have a hard time finding a job because théy´ll be all filled. I hope you have some experienced, at least a TEFL certificate or a teaching certificate from US or CAD. Otherwise, you´ll get crap jobs at the langauge institutes.

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omargue says on Jan 15, 2006, 11:29:

moving to Cali soon i will be moving to Cali in the summer of 2006, would i be able to get a job with no training or education? I have gone to college here in the US but never received a degree. Would i be able to get a job making enough money to get by in Cali without any certifications or training? I've been reading alot here and people say its easy to get jobs without any certs. or education but then i've read alot saying that you need them in order to get a job. Please any help would be greatful. I will be living with my Tio in el Barrio San Antonio. I love it there, but now my main concern is work. i was looking into El Colombo or i saw another school called English.net . I am a native english speaker so how hard will it be to find a job in Cali? If anyone can please replay or send me an email, it would be very helpful, thank you Guevara.torna at hotmail.com

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Andrewrsn says on Jan 18, 2006, 14:25:

Teaching English in Cali I just got back from a trip to Cali to visit some friends. needless to say within a day of getting home I started searching for English teaching jobs in Cali. I have a friend there who is doing some looking but as a native he doesn't know too much about the job search. anybody have any places to email/call or any suggestions on finding a job? I have a BS from the Univ. of MN and am currently working on getting my TEFL.

thanks

Andrew

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beinor says on Mar 1, 2006, 10:57:

email for Harold Bratovich Hi we were taling before through the pm screen but that has been disabled I was wondering if you could give me your email again and I will send you something through my priviate email.
Thank you

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captbill says on May 16, 2006, 05:42:

two million Shane, where do you live and work in Cali, medellin or Bogota and do you have certificates and lastly teach in a school or private students. I have an american friend been there 25 years with a college degree and he makes I think $25 us a session teaching professionals privately. Doctors, lawyers etc.
Bill

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captbill says on May 19, 2006, 05:17:

medellin Anyone have reccomendations of places to start for a good and proper native English speaking person looking for employment in Medellin and the surrounding areas. I do not have a degree nor a certificate, but am very adept in the english language. Also my spanish vocaulario is large but my grammar is bad. How do you teach english if you don't speak spanish?

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caslug says on May 20, 2006, 12:14:

cali job lead http://www.tefl.com/jobs/job.html?jo_id=22669

does require some minimum qualification and the pay is DECENT not great.. but hey it's cali!

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 20, 2006, 12:36:

I also want to live in Colombia, disrespect their laws and visa restrictions, lie to their government, because of the sole fact that i speak English qualifies me to teach it, even though i have minimal, if any, training....and, my students will suffer in their command of the English language from unqualified foreign instructors, and not get their moneys worth....just so i can live in Colombia....and if I get there, and things dont work out the way i want them to, i can always click my heels together and chant "i want go home, i want to go home....."

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.......faltan 41 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 20, 2006, 13:29:

Hey Big A...the primary motivation here is not teaching students to learn english, and educating them....its how do the posters support themselves in a foreign country...that is why the US and other countries have Standards, Certificates, and Credentials for teaching..its a very important responsibility, not a means of support....cierto?


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.......faltan 41 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 20, 2006, 15:16:

But is it right that the students get unqualified teachers and an inferior education in English? which is the lesser of two evils, TBA?

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo.......faltan 41 días.....

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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johna says on Jun 13, 2006, 13:59:

M_C "...that is why the US and other countries have Standards, Certificates, and Credentials for teaching..its a very important responsibility, not a means of support....cierto?"

being an officer is a big responsibility too, and it is also a means of support. cierto?
Have you seen the hoops that a teacher must jump through to get and maintain certification here in the states? It is ridiculous espec. considering the respect they are given by administrators and parents, and lets not talk about the pay and the constant layoffs. Even with all this I am still considering beginning a credential program, but guess what? I can't afford it. My Fafsa was denied, I made too much money last year. Where did it all go? Rent
So yes it is best to always follow the law and of course students deserve the best, but lets not pretend a teaching cert. from a state in the US is the holy grail.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 13, 2006, 14:21:

My point was that just because one speaks English, does not qualify them to teach it. If their English is horrible, like most people, then the students learn "horrible english" from a "horrible" instructor.....who has no training....but each state in the US has differing requirements, and yes, CA requires alot. A US credential is not the Holy Grail, but to teach English and speak English is completely 2 different beasts....and i was not really praising US credential, credentials from Colombia would work too....But with your question, there are many hoops that one has to go through to work as a cop in CA....One has a better chance of sucessfully becoming a teacher in CA than making probation for a cop, IMHO...The posters here in this thread are more interested in living in Colombia somehow, and the students are not even on the list of importance to them.....collateral damage, i would call them...

but i still think that there needs to be some training, credentialing, or certification of teachers other than "speaking" it to teach the Colombian students who are paying to be taught...My feeling is that is "Stupid Teachers Make Studid Students", and that Instructors who are only interested in supporting themselves, and not having the interests of the students in mind, are not "Teacher", and should not be allowed to teach there.....

Nothing in Life that is important comes easily....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 19 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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shirley83 says on Nov 27, 2006, 13:13:

studying in Cali I am currently going to college in the US and I would like more information about continuing my education in Cali. Where can I get information about transferring my classes or would I have to start from scratch?

Shirley

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daniel.l.mayer says on Jun 10, 2007, 18:16:

More of the Same Hi,
I'm currently teaching English in South Korea, but would like to find employment in Cali. I have a BFA and one year's experience in the field, but I don't have a TEFL certification. I would ideally like to do things the legal way, and I was wondering what all would be required of me to obtain a work visa. Also, if anyone knows the exact cost, that would be helpful too. Is one better off just taking the certification course, and then going through their job placement programs? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
daniel.l.mayer at hotmail.com

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