Survey for Gringas: Who do you prefer and why?

Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 11, 2004, 10:55:

I prefer men who can show their face.
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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rash9000 says on Dec 11, 2004, 10:58:

show their face??? What do you mean, nice faces, no matter what the race???????

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 11, 2004, 11:10:

never mind just the first thing that came into my mind. I guess I meant "honest", "straight-forward" with no secrets. I was not referring to looks or etnicity.
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Save the Wildcats says on Dec 11, 2004, 11:16:

Agree with Desi... kind, smart, compassionate and honest are musts - this will beat a pretty boy in my book anyday.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 11, 2004, 11:29:

and then some more intelligent, communicative, good sense of humor, self-assured yet not conceited...who cares whre they come from.
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 11, 2004, 11:34:

I really like these responses! My sister-in-law is looking using amigos.com. She and her sisters dismiss any Latino instantly without giving the guy any consideration. Their one-word response is always "machismo" but they could be brushing off someone who would be perfect for her through this generalization. To make matters worse they have a starry-eyed view of gringos. I have not made much progress with them but I am continuing to work on it.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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suzannyo says on Dec 11, 2004, 12:00:

Either way.... I think that race/ethnicity don't matter as much as the person and their heart. Religous beliefs, character/personality, and the way that they treat people are way more important in my book than the physical side...though I do have to admit that I personally think Latino guys are more exotic and attractive...the cute accent usually helps too. :)

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ColombianoX says on Dec 11, 2004, 13:33:

"My sister-in-law is looking using amigos.com. She and her sisters dismiss any Latino instantly without giving the guy any consideration.'"

It's sounds to me that they're probably a couple of gold-diggers or they're just self-racists who suffer from an inferiority complex. I think that one of the many things that keeps us down as a nation is this stupid mentality that everything that is non-colombian is superior. When will my people learn to appreciate what they have and what they are?


ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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viewpoint says on Dec 11, 2004, 14:00:

ColombianoX - Relax Relax GolombianoX, as UtopiaCowboy mean nothing negative by the comment. One thing for sure is that any Colombiano (man or women) having a "starry-eyed" view of gringos will soon be shocked back to the reality that we are all the same no matter where we come from or what label we would like to attach to ourselves. UtopiaCowboy has always come down in your camp so you know where he is coming from. The cultural divide and language barrier will separate most relationships of Colombian and foreign persons. Only the strongest and most committed survive like UtopiaCowboy, Desi and the many others posting here who (by their posts) clearly show that they have adopted the Colombian culture and choose to make it a large part of their life.

Back to business, what puts your nation down in part is the rejection by the central government administrators of all things non-colombian. Your government is years behind other countries in drawing foreign technology, immigration and capital to create better paying jobs for it's citizens. The unstability of the terrorist situation is not the only problem holding Colombia back.

Good qualified Colombian workers immigrate elsewhere (like you to Miami) to find a better opportunity and no one can blame them.

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caslug says on Dec 11, 2004, 14:03:

Utopia.. maybe your sisters-in-law have a starry eyed view of gringos because of... YOU!!! LOL.

I've mean you seem like a decent guy, treats your wife with respect and as an equal, made the effort to learn spanish, faithful, etc., etc., If you're half the person you seem on this board, then you're wife is probably raving about you to her sisters. So if the only gringos they met is you or maybe some your friends, of course they'll like gringos. Only way they'll lose that image that they have of gringos, if they date a "ugly american" and there's not to many of those types in COL.

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ColombianoX says on Dec 11, 2004, 14:13:

viewpoint,

I know Utopiacowboy meant nothing negative. It's his sister-in-law's mentalities which really offend me. I agree with everthing you said about what keeps Colombia down and agree it's about time we change all that.

"The best and the
smartest "workers" immigrate elsewhere (like you to Miami) to find a better opportunity and no one can blame them."

I'm not an immigrant, I was born here. And I wish I lived in Miami where all my colombianas are, actually I live further up north where it's really boring.

Saludes,

ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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viewpoint says on Dec 11, 2004, 14:38:

ColombianoX,

My best and smartest comment was overkill and I changed it to somehting more accurate as I know many extremely qualified Colombian professionals that would never leave Colombia for any reason (including $$$).

I hope that you are right that changes will come to Colombia laws, rules and regulations as they apply to foreign immigration and investment. The instability of the Colombian peso has been a difficult problem that the Colombian people have paid dearly for. It's the root of the problem for the high interest rates in Colombia of 16-18% for real estate loans while neighboring Panama is 5%.

Sorry for my misstatement regarding your birthplace but there is no mistake that you are Colombiano.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 11, 2004, 15:48:

yeah, give the cowboy a break. He did say "but they could be brushing off someone who would be perfect for her through this generalization". The sisters-in-law are just pretty impressed by him. They just need to meet a couple of "batmen" or "calipro" to make them realize that Colombian guys are not actually that bad.
Cheers,
Desi
(time to go to sleep, I guess since I have nothing better to say than this)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 11, 2004, 18:34:

What really annoys me about this is one of them (her sisters) is married to a Colombiano who is an absolute prince of a guy! You could not ask for a better husband and father. So here they are dismissing guys who could be just like him! When I bring this up they concede that yes, I am right, but then they go right on doing what they're doing. Exasperating!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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ShazCas says on Dec 12, 2004, 05:08:

Latino men, and men in general! I think it's a shame that your sisters-in-law want to tar all latino men with the same brush. But then there is a reason why Latin American men have this reputation - many are perros, and the culture generally is pretty sexist, though much less so in cities. When my husband was about to marry me his dad told him he should not marry because there were so many beautiful women out there. He also is now being unfaithful to his third wife and told my husband he left his mum because she got ugly young!

So this may go some way to explaining their attitude - many men in Latin America are perros!! But that doesn't mean there aren't lots of sweet, respectful men who would like to fall in love for real and have a proper relationship and share their lives fully with another human being - and with all those gorgeous big brown eyes and wonderful caring personalities it's a shame to rule them all out!!

As for men, well, I already have my wonderful Colombian, and had go to the other side of the world to find my soulmate, I agree it doesn't matter where they're from as long as they are open-minded and free spirits, generous, loving, caring and brave! A woman is another human being on this planet, an equal, not an object or a prize, and men who respect this are the best in my opinion.

I'm not saying it's just men who can see women as prizes - I hate women who will only date doctors, for example. It's the same.

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rash9000 says on Dec 12, 2004, 11:46:

Ok all that is good, But the question was simple:
Who do you prefer latino men or american men..........
By the way if we are going to talk about unfaithfulness, I think american guys are more perros than colombian guys....

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Raleigh1590 says on Dec 12, 2004, 11:57:

Okay you want a straight up answer? I've had experience with American men all my life.. am beginning to think I prefer Latino men. Their culture is rich and familial, always interesting, always beautiful. Some American men pay too much alligience to the TV & not enough to the outside world around them. And all the Colombianos I've met actually know how to open a door & treat a woman.

Don't get me wrong, I do love American men (rather, most men in general, except for the domestically violent ones), but Latinos are definately more intriguing. I simply love their pride in their culture.

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emero says on Dec 13, 2004, 05:30:

right now colombiano

I've dated scottish, english, north american caucasian men I've also dated a Rasta too.
I prefer colombian men (well one)

He is honest caring yes he is an alpha male though not in a british aggressive way.

"hey look at me ain't I great" - show off mentality that I really don't like in any man as it is such a turn off


I've only ever met one other colombian male (Hi Libardo, Hi Shaz!!!!) He and his lovely wife were so welcoming and friendly!

I agree it's not just about the way a person looks it is their character that counts, it has to be compatible with your own though i adore his accent and the fact he is gorgeous does it for me too.


I would say that dating a latin American male was not even on my agenda as a partner, it depends on who comes strolling into your life. though i wouldn't swap it for the world
I agree with Raleigh and Shazcas that there are some really lovely men out there, happily for us they are colombianos


hugs Diane x

hugs Diane x

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rash9000 says on Dec 13, 2004, 11:27:

ok

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ShazCas says on Dec 13, 2004, 12:26:

Ok you insisted! If you insist, Colombian men because they're more concerned with you than with football and beer. They're not afraid to show their feelings and be romantic. And they're better in bed. There you go!!! ;-)

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elmodefoque says on Dec 13, 2004, 15:47:

hey what's wrong with football and beer. ever had sex while watching the jets game and drinking a six pack?

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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ReinaDeLa Baile says on Dec 13, 2004, 21:15:

I can't stay away ... Well, since you asked. Let's see...I have had "more than three" men in my life, and some were Latino and some were Gringos, and some were ... never mind. Ehem.

Latinos - Pros and Cons
Can be jealous, insanely jealous, and act as if it is acceptable.
(But hey - at least you know he is paying attention to the guys that flirt with you!)

Can whine and moan if they don't get their way. (But hey, they are unafraid to show their feelings!)

More often than not have a good to great sense of rhythmn, and that makes for good dancing.
(But if they go on to "dance" with everyone ...)

It is a romantic time warp to days gone by= you are in the 50's - here he is opening your car door, paying for everything, carrying your groceries, try finding a Gringo willing to do this. (But the time warp can extend back to teh cave man days and your Latino may want you to stay in the cave 24/7 while he goes out with the boys. This applies more to Dominicans than Colombianos!)

Quicker to say I LOVE YOU.
(But it may be only for "ahora" and does not imply a commitment or duty-bound feeling for you.)

Okay, now to Gringos:

Yes, much less jealousy on the whole. But a girl needs a guy to be territorial ONCE IN A WHILE, okay?

Often suck at dancing. But tend to dance at home only and not "en la calle" if you know what I mean.

Don't whine and moan about their feelings. But often can't talk about feelings at all. ??

Not so big on the chivalry thing, but also more accepting of independent women.

Take forever to say I LOVE YOU, if they ever do. But usually mean it and it implies commitment, usually.

Also - Latinos tend not to have hairy backs! (Alex!?!?!) kiss kiss.

Hmn, a Latino will be so happy if you cook for him or iron his shirt, if you try to do that for a Gringo he says,"why are you doing my laundry - I have a cleaning woman to do that!" UGH!!!!

But.
Some Latinos EXPECT you to slave in the house, whereas a Gringo almost never expects you to cook much, and if you do can be surprised. (Well in my case anyway since I am so hot they assume I don't NEED to know how to cook!) Joke.

Also, Gringos need to learn how to compliment women. Many do not do it at all. A Latino man will ALWAYS find something nice to say about how you look. Always, and let's see who do I want to sleep with - the guy who noticed my haircut or the schmuck that asked me a month later if I had done something different?

Latinos, in my experience, tend to be much better to SLEEP with as in cuddling and hugging - much more affectionate in public and in private. A gringo might hesitate to hold your hand in public for a while as if it means he agreed to pay off my Nordstrom charge card account or something!

But. That same Gringo I just complained about is also not likely to be affectionate with you on Tuesday and me on Wednesday and That Slut on Thursday....oh, and his wife on Friday!

And lest I forget - very important and Elmo will love this one: Please explain to me about Latinos and anal sex - my experience - Latinos all go for Next Door by the 3rd or 4th "session." Gringos, maybe one out of ten will go for it, and we are talking months into a reltionship. Is this maybe because so many Catholic Latinas remain "chaste" by
"dandole las nalgas" instead of the front door? So maybe the guys get used to it? I don't know. (Scratching my head!)


Glad to be back! -- longwinded reina

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utopiacowboy says on Dec 13, 2004, 21:51:

So Latinos are back door men, Reina? Wow, I did not realize the old "chiquito" was so popular down south. All I can say is, those gringos have no idea what they're missing! Yipes, I'm one of them!

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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justkmh35 says on Feb 22, 2005, 19:20:

gringos vs latinos mucho gracias for your most insightful comments. i am in my first relationship with a peruvian latino, and came across this sight in search of info on the latin male mentality. i have never been around any latinos ever before, and did not realize the vast cultural differences between us. for the most part, your post was a perfect description of my new man. i adore the way he loves and misses his family, and is unafraid to make it known. he is a hard worker and an AWESOME lover (yes, he epecially likes anal sex!!!) BUT, i cant cook, and i cant dance, and i cant seem to dress sexy enough to please him, so does this relationship have a snowballs chance in hell? i would much appreciate any sights you could guide me to, to help me understand his way of thinking, and let me know what it takes to keep a latin man happy. (besides back door amor!)

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babygirl says on Feb 22, 2005, 19:57:

hmmmm... The last Canadian guy I dated seriously..was...ummmm I can't really remember actually, my ex-husband? Well a long time ago. I haven't been attracted to Canadian guys for the most part in years. I find ethnic guys much more interesting really, maybe more passionate? I'm not referring to just sex either. The latin (and other ethnic) guys I know seem to be more romantic, sensual and traditional then the Canadian guys I know and I find it really refreshing.

PS: If elmo--- reads this, Never had sex & beer watching football, you have to try it next time with a Leafs game on babe ;) haha! ... oh wait one thing I love about Canadian guys, is their love for hockey.

cheers - babygirl

cheers

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 22, 2005, 20:00:

If you're letting him come in the back door ("El Chiquito"), I don't think he's going to go anywhere. Damm, this is one for Elmo.

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Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Gomezman5 says on Feb 22, 2005, 21:46:

Babygirl....if you are single and live in Toronto You have an opportunity that literally only comes once in a life time.
Since it is "Unofficially Official" that this years NHL season is history, there are a lot of very sad and lonely men up there that can't figure out what they are going to do now that it appears that there will be no hockey this year.

I am sure that one of the things that they might be doing, is looking for Ms. wonderful to take up their free time. We are not too happy in Chicago without our Blackhawks on the ice. On the other hand, spring training has begun, and in 2 months our Cubs and White Sox will be well on the way to another championship. (At least I can dream)

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ARMacleod says on Feb 22, 2005, 23:33:

Hey Girls. I have all of the above salubrious traits mentioned by all of the girls. I am the most modest man in the world and I never fail to put the needs of my many partners to the fore.

Am I unique? or am I just the wishful thought that is in the mind of every young girl?

Possibly I am what every woman is convinced that she is going to turn me into?

In the end? I am just little old me. Love me, I am a man.

Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy.

The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.

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N2Aquatix says on Feb 23, 2005, 04:48:

The ugly american Hey UC, show them the "ugly american." That will straighten those chicks out. I work with a bunch of them at the Honda plant here in Alabama. Most of them would be sharing their skoal if they gave a girl a kiss. Hahaha!!! They also fondle their genitals in public, not to mention picking their noses while having a conversation. Oh I almost forgot the penchant for farting and belching loudly and other forms of crude bodily function humor. It makes me ashamed to be a gringo sometimes. ;-)

Jay

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Moya says on Feb 23, 2005, 06:38:

Melt me! Reina is right about everything and just about makes redundant any comment I was thinking about making.
I know a lot of Colombian men living in London (I'm married to one of them) and they run the entire gamut of personality from sweet drifter to focussed Mr Businessman, Can't keep it in my pants to Wouldn't even look at any woman who wasn't my sweetie, even totally charming Off Planet Space Cowboy who must have come here on a meteorite because he sure as hell didn't grow up in the same world as the rest of us. One thing they all have in common, they can say things like, "My beautiful darling, the stars do not shine the same without you" so sincerely and convincingly that bloody hell! instead of collapsing into hysterical giggles as you would if an English guy even attempted something similar, you just melt!
Men are men are men when you get right down to it, some are faithful some aren't, some are exciting free spirits some aren't, but whichever category your bloke falls into, don't you want someone who can melt and warm your insides so effortlessly?

Oh yes, and Reina's right about the anal sex obsession too. What is that all about?

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babygirl says on Feb 23, 2005, 07:34:

I think alot of guys have an obsession with it, just some are not shy about letting you know. It's a fascination with the "taboo" maybe? cheers - babygirl

cheers

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comolograrlavisadeusa says on Jun 17, 2005, 19:39:

Looking for a gringa The owner of the following website is looking for a gringa whos between 28 and 35?? The website? ... http://comolograrlavisadeusa.com/

Anyone hottie gringa out there interested??

MUA !!! I just love gringas!! Can't help it !!

David Soto

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Rubiazo says on Jun 17, 2005, 20:41:

I thought anal was just part of the standard non-kinky repertoire by now in 2005. It hasnt even come up for negotiation in any relationship or even one night stand i've had in the past 10 years. It's just assumed it's gonna happen.
Come to think of it that's the last time I dated a non-Latina :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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BxUnika says on Jun 17, 2005, 22:22:

Just So You Know Anglo= Anglo-Saxon= British. I am not British and don't know any British people, so I can't answer.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 18, 2005, 14:21:

So what are you saying, Rubiazo? The Latinas are giving up El Chiquito for the asking? Do you tell them you're a planetary explorer and want to check out Uranus? I read a Colombian sex survey the other day and only about 10-15% of the Colombian couples were doing anal depending on the city.

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lockheed says on Jun 18, 2005, 16:59:

Chiquitos down memory lane I remember my first chiquito like it was yesterday, she was an older woman from Palmira.
Question to las Americanas it's my understanding from my high school years that you girls like "BIG BORE" alot of "CUBIC INCHES" and I think that latino man are not very known for having "BIG BORE" so in this case that does not matter?

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 18, 2005, 17:02:

Don't worry about it, Lockheed. I'm sure an Oscar Meyer hot dog feels like a 747 down there - of course I'm only speculating from having dumped some really big logs.

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Rubiazo says on Jun 18, 2005, 17:11:

Maybe I just know how to pick em :)))
But I really don't think it's about country of origin or ethnicity. I just think it's more and more accepted.

Whenever I found a girl who came up with 'I tried it and I didn't like it' I simply countered with 'well, the guy was obviously totally clueless how to do it RIGHT' and they were always dumb enough to believe me :))))

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Rubiazo says on Jun 18, 2005, 17:12:

Here's another question Girls, who do you think are more likely to be sincere, and who are more likely to plant a nice set of antlers on ya, gingoes or hisparlantes?

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cutethings4me says on Jun 18, 2005, 20:56:

Just my little opinion.... This is the first post that I have made on here, but I had to comment on this issue...
I dated my first Colombian last year. Prior to that, I had always dated guys from the USA. Well, my Colombian was a dream come true for a while. He opened car doors, went ate at fancy places, and just had a wonderful time. He always complimented me, told me how much he loved me and all of that. Well, I got pregnant in August of last year. Whenever I told him, he told me to abort it. Then after he realized that I was not going to do that, he left South Carolina. My father passed away unexpectedly on New Years Eve of this year and due to the fact that the Colombian worked with my father, he did come to the funeral. At that point in my life, I needed him. I was still so in love with him....and he was the coldest human being I had ever met. Here I was almost 5 months pregnant with his child, and he acted like he had never really even met me. All of this because I refused to abort the baby. The baby is now 7 weeks old and looks just like his father(Well, the sperm donor). He does not even know he is here. And obviously he does not care.

I have not gone against latinos in any way. I did learn that I really like latino guys just from being with the one that I was with. This one particular man was a jerk, but there are plenty of guys around me that are jerks too.

It does not matter where a person is from, just what is inside of them!!! The color of the skin is not an issue.... it really all depends on the person themselves..

Kristy

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lockheed says on Jun 20, 2005, 16:25:

Opinions Kristy I am not Colombian but I am a man. I have a friend that is in love with a Colombiana and he cared for her and her 2 sons like they were his own sons, probably they were from two Colombians that probably did the same to her like your Colombiano did to you. And when he got sick and was laying almost dead at the hospital this woman dumped him and went to Colombia on vacation leaving this man in a hospital alone.
Kristy you must be going trough very dificult times, and please be strong and love that child with all your love. Please do not be mad at all man because we are not all a..holes, find somebody good, and let time get that prk out of your heart, and when you find someone remember that he is inocent of whatever the other did to you, don't treat him bad, and give him all the love he deserves, and please never never compare to the one that left you, we are all different, and some of us just need to be givin a chance to show that we mean good. Good luck and remember the quickest way out of a storm is straight ahead.

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Sylvie says on Jun 20, 2005, 17:16:

I must admit that I have a soft spot for Latinos because they're very "lusty" they can dance, they have nice skin and they treat their girlfriends very well to their face.

Only thing I have against Latinos is they tend to have a major wondering eye. It upsets me when my Venezuelan boyfriend has to check out every single female ass in the place even if it belongs to a 300 pound chica. I also have a problem with their nonchalant attitude to infidelity.

BUT they're hot and make good lovers. :-P

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 20, 2005, 17:24:

My wife always thought gringos were cold fish and bad in bed. Good thing she knows better now. Even a generalization that's right most of the time is no help when it comes to a particular individual.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Sylvie says on Jun 20, 2005, 19:12:

down side to Latinos: unhealthy obsession with football and getting into fights over football.

its nuts.

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Cerealkiller says on Jun 20, 2005, 19:53:

Thats not just latinos...try europeans, especially English men hahahaha

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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Sylvie says on Jun 20, 2005, 19:57:

My boyfriend is prepared to give up his first born so he could play once in the World Cup.

Good thing he doesn't have any kids yet! ALthough I don't know anyone who would take a baby in exchange for a spot on the field....

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cutethings4me says on Jun 20, 2005, 20:20:

A little more info.... I will be fine!! I have gotten over the initial shock of the whole situation and I am better. I do not hold anything against all men. I just seem to attract the ones that are not worth my time. I was married to a total jerk and that resulted in my first 3 boys. Then the guy from Colombia gave me the 7 week old. I love all of them with every ounce of my being and I always will. It is hard being a single mom to 4 wild boys, but I would not change a thing. If I would not have married my ex, I would not have my children and then if I would not have gotten involved with the guy from Colombia, then I would not have my baby. I thank these men everyday for the wonderful gifts that they gave me. Thanks for the kind words. And I know that I will be okay!!!!! :-)

Kristy

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caslug says on Jun 20, 2005, 20:30:

delete.. in wrong thread

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