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In England, only homosexuals and non-commissioned officers wear moustaches.

What is the cultural significance, its semiotic function as it were, of 'el bigote' in Colombia?

By kalder on Feb 26, 2008, 12:03 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


kalder says on Feb 26, 2008, 12:03:

Postmodernist perspectives welcome.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

ColombianoGringo says on Feb 26, 2008, 12:09:



What are you implying?

kalder says on Feb 26, 2008, 12:14:

Colour Sergeant? Coldstream Guards?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

britabroad says on Feb 26, 2008, 12:42:

Yes, Colombia is one of the few places in the civilised world where a man can wear a spiffing handlebar on his upper lip, have a number one shave on his bonce, and wear a white vest and tight jeans, without getting wolf-whistles from builders.
ps: The issue sunglasses above are definately Grenadier Guards.

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

RAAAY says on Feb 26, 2008, 12:52:

I'm a tad confused....( no surprise, you say ).................... But are all officers in the British Army gay...............or just most of them...??

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

britabroad says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:07:

Let me unconfuse you my little leprauchaun friend. :-)

ALL RAF officers are gay. It´s in the contract. MOST army officers are gay, especially those who play lots of rugby and went to public schools. The Navy aren´t allowed to wear just a tash - have to grow a "Full Set" (Tash and Beard). They rely on flared trousers and pretty ribbons on their uniforms to get the message across.

I once had a Colour Sergeant who actually looked like a slightly overweight Freddie Mercury.
Never had the heart to ask him about his sexual orientation. Actually...I was shit scared to ask him. Not that I was interested ....

There are no gays in the Royal Marines. They would be eaten.
A little known piece of information about the SAS... Col.David Stirling (founder), Major Paddy Maine, Lt Col. 'Mad Mike´ Hoare, and a load of other early SAS officers were all gay. Stirling basically set up a private army of ex school friends in North Africa in 1942. No wonder the Germans were so scared!
Hope this helps.

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

RAAAY says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:16:

I'm assuming you are telling the truth here.........and not making a joke.........facinating facts about the SAS..................During my times of throwing rocks at them in Derry many years ago.....................If I had known this, I would have lobbed a few pink teddy bears instead.

Lt Col 'Mad Mike' Hoare.............did'nt he become famous or infamous for something...?
I can't remember what..............any idea..??

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

britabroad says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:23:

Well, some of it´s true.
Hoare got set up by other officers (the two who weren´t gay) who sent a young Arab boy to his tent then waited 20 minutes before barging in. Consequently sacked on the spot. I think there was a mercenary officer called Mad Mike something too - not the same.

They´d have really appreciated the pink teddy´s. But Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaay, are you seriously suggesting that you stoned the SAS and didn´t get a rubber stamp on your forehead? How did you know it was them? I thought they´d have been disguised as lamp posts or something.

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

RAAAY says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:31:

Yeah.........you are correct..........They did'nt operate covertly in Derry much.........and either way..........throwing rocks at your fellow countrymen, was for many of us, just a distraction on a Friday evening, until the pubs gissed up a bit.

And yes............I'm obviously thinking of the Mad Mike Hoare who was the mercenary. An uncle of mine was with him on some sort of skirmish somewere in Africa at one time.
I believe he was also involved in some sort of coup in the Seychelles.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

britabroad says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:35:

Didn´t he get arrested in Rhodesia or Namibia or somewhere? That must have been in the late 70´s eartly 80´s.
"Gissed up" - haven´t heard that one for ages. Feel homesick now.

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

britabroad says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:39:

Hang on. I hate to admit it, but I´m wrong and you´re right Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
It was ´Mad Mike´Calvert who was in the SAS. Fought in Malaysia and North Africa. Mike Hoare was the mercenary.

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

huskie says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:56:

Macho upbringing? In Colombia, I mean.
I don't think Colombian men are big on bigotes, not as much as say Mexican, or Central American Men.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

RAAAY says on Feb 26, 2008, 13:57:

Brit.........." Didn´t he get arrested in Rhodesia or Namibia or somewhere? "............yeah.....over there ............My uncle was slated to do the Seychelles thing with him........but decided to go for a few beers instead..................he was also a Lt Col ( retired )...............and had a fierce fondness for the drink............he missed the plane.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

britabroad says on Feb 26, 2008, 14:16:

Why am I not surprised Raaaaaaaaaaay?

Huskie, macho? Not in Earls Court it´s not. Or maybe it is. Maybe it´s a macho sign...like keys hanging from belts or hankies poking out of back pockets?

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

RAAAY says on Feb 26, 2008, 14:21:

Brit........it's actually a true story......no kiddin....

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

huskie says on Feb 26, 2008, 14:37:

Not the back pockets the front pockets, and they match their tie as well, HAHA!!
Hey brit, haven't they packed u up and fedex to Tasmania?
(Joke)
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

jonas says on Feb 26, 2008, 14:55:

britabroad: Ever read the "Flashman Papers"?

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

paulr says on Feb 26, 2008, 15:03:

I have, bloody brilliant. http://www.radioarchive.cc/torrents-search.php?search=flashman&cat=0&i...

Life is like a ten-speed bicycle. Most of us have gears we never use.

paulr says on Feb 26, 2008, 15:15:

What abouT GAY FLIGHT ATTENDANTS?

Life is like a ten-speed bicycle. Most of us have gears we never use.

britabroad says on Feb 26, 2008, 15:38:

No, haven´t read that book yet Paul (?!!!)
Must start reading these Flashman books though. Much Huzzah and Hurrahing?
Huskie, if you were a man, I´d be worried. :-)

Leave the big stick at home...carry a cannon!

huskie says on Feb 26, 2008, 16:12:

Why is that, bb
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

jaramillo says on Feb 26, 2008, 16:39:

Regarding British military traditions, I recently saw this quote:

Winston Churchill, when he became the first Lord of the Admiralty did away with all the old British naval regulations which had been in effect since Lord Nelson, including flogging, which was still in the naval regulations of the British Royal Navy. He was at a reception—like all Churchill stories, this may or may not be true—and a retired British admiral came up to him and said, ‘Sir Winston, you have destroyed British naval traditions.’ And Churchill said, ‘Sir, the British Royal Navy only has three traditions: rum, sodomy, and the lash.’

paulr says on Feb 26, 2008, 16:46:

My favourite quote from Churchill. He was a very messy person, he smoked his cigar in bed and left papers all over the place, so one day his housekeeper was so fed up of this she said to him "If you were my husband i would poison you, he replied, if you were my wife, i would drink it"

Life is like a ten-speed bicycle. Most of us have gears we never use.

manINred says on Feb 26, 2008, 16:49:

Churchill came up with some of the most brilliant quotes. Some American (or French) woman came over to him at a party and said "Sir, you are drunk!" and he replied "Yes, that is so, but when I awake tomorrow I will be sober, but you will still be ugly and unsufferable"

What a wit, and quite some cheek!

Leeroy says on Feb 26, 2008, 16:50:

Man: "Sir, do you realise that in 50 years' time women will rule the world?"

Churchill: (sighs).. "Still?"

RAAAY says on Feb 26, 2008, 17:00:

...." A modest man, who has much to be modest about. (On Clement Atlee) "

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

scotty says on Feb 27, 2008, 01:58:

and now those colombianos are carrying purses, whats that all about?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

kalder says on Feb 27, 2008, 05:05:

Re: Churchill..

The first recorded usage in English literature of the word 'wanker' appears in the late wartime leader's quasi-autobiographical 'From Harrow to Plough' (Weedon 1932). To wit:

"Thorpe's Classics Master creased his trousers in a manner known only to Midlands drapers, cardsharpers and wankers."

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

podborski says on Feb 27, 2008, 07:57:

what a great word....no wonder english is so popular

curramberochris says on Feb 27, 2008, 09:05:

makes me smile every time someone uses the shorter form of the name Juan Carlos

Mononoke28 says on Feb 27, 2008, 10:48:

Bigote = Macho (or so they think)

Man purses = classy (or so they think)

I personally love seeing a good looking guy with a nice expensive carriel. For reals.

Diana

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