Suggestions Thread for the New PoorButHappy

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 24, 2007, 12:55:

That is a very lovely idea, Miguel_Clavo!

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 24, 2007, 12:59:

I'm not a computer whiz but I know Mozilla Firefox recently added spell-checking into their standard (and free) internet browser. It works fine for me in this forum and another one I post in. I get a little red squiggly line under each of my typos. The errors are displayed immediately, I don't have to wait until I'm finished and then hit F7 or something like that. It's a slick feature. Maybe Bill Gates has copied it, too.

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manINred says on Jun 24, 2007, 13:25:

Yes I agree Miguel_Clavo, we should also somehow be able to alert moderators when someone takes a disliking to us and insults and jides us wherever possible, so that they can deal with it, and deal with the immature scumbag responsible.

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 24, 2007, 13:46:

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 24, 2007, 13:47:

ps: download Firefox here

Poor but snappy

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 24, 2007, 14:11:

That is a shame, Peter, as it seems that several posters would rather blast your selected moderators in public for enforcing your rules and doing what you expect of them than contacting you via PM.....blasting the mods in public does nothing for the site......just out of curiosity, what kind of a quantity are we talking about for posters who actually have contacted you about moderator complaints, if you care to share with us..?...in all reality, it is much simpler just to insult your mods than send you a PM and wait for a response, dont you think?....just a thought....=)

BTW, i think the mods do a great job, despite getting publicly criticized and ridiculed alot of time....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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dwmte7 says on Jun 24, 2007, 14:24:

with moderaters like maarit, who could ever complain and take them to task?
dw

dwmte

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 24, 2007, 14:25:

she and tinto are great moderators..

if i were one and somebody will complaint my answer will be deal with it :)))

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 24, 2007, 14:27:

dwmte7.....wait long enough and you shall see what i mean.......=)...welcome back, and thanks for the cargo shipping info i got from your posts before you disappeared.....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 24, 2007, 15:44:

As desi said I miss that most recent comments on top, me too good thread are disappearing too fast

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webmanco says on Jun 24, 2007, 16:17:

What I do found disrespectful is a few posters coming only to criticize PBH and its posters. It is for me more disgusting than trolls.

I do like PBH without many rules and policies. Posters need to be smart in dealing with other people´s point of view.

Good job by Peter, Desi and Tinto.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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scotty says on Jun 24, 2007, 16:50:

Is this what is called a love fest?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 24, 2007, 17:21:

its whatever you want it to be, Scotty......

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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manINred says on Jun 24, 2007, 18:57:

I also think it would be a good idea to be able to edit what we have written, in case there are confusing grammatical mistakes, I know I have made a few that I would like to spruce up.

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gringoloid (Trustee board) says on Jun 24, 2007, 20:17:

With the new ignore button we are all moderators to an extent so I don't think there will be any need for a complaint process.

There will no longer be a poster here that will accuse other posters of serious criminal activity like being pedophiles and sex tourists. Not on my computer anyway.

I can't think of a reason of why a moderator would be blasted with our new button. No one will have to ask a mod of why it is not nice to call someone fat but it is ok to call someone a pedephile.

These problems are now solved as far as I'm concerned.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 24, 2007, 20:21:

Thank you Miguel_Clavo, kat1 and Douglas for your support and kind words.

I'm not a big fan of many rules or policies, but I think it's good to hang on to just a few basic ones and to be fairly consistent about it.

Cheers,
Desi
(off to the mines, hi-ho)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 24, 2007, 21:48:

oh, i dont doubt that CdA will be back.......i am not a big fan of rules, but what purpose does a whiney post about the mods serve? maybe some of the whiners can explain this constructively and without whining??? Instead of writing a whiney post, go whine to your mama, your therapist, your alterego, your bartender......whoever, but spare us the details of your personal problems, i say.......=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 25, 2007, 07:16:

Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 07:28:

It's easy to block and unblock. But you need to remember who's on your blackball list. If you ever want to unblock them, you'll need to type their name into the Google search box so you can find their profile page. It's the profile page that contains the block/unblock button.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 07:45:

Can you block the moderators or Peter?
(Just out of curiosity....)

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 07:58:

Desi, I don't know if a non-moderator can block a moderator or Peter, that's a good question.



I do know that I can block you (and vice versa). I just tried it and reversed it. BTW, if you ever need to find a blocked member's profile and know the exact spelling of their user name, it may be faster to use...



http://poorbuthappy.com/desideria



...instead of typing it into the Google box and then hoping the "profile page" is the first Google hit.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 08:03:

I wouldn't want to be blocked by a non-moderator or even a fellow moderator. How can I be a moderator if I can be blocked by a non-moderator member?

Are you sure you unblocked me, Tinto?

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 08:04:

Yep, I see your message right now.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 10:20:

I would be upset if someone blocked me,

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 10:45:

I participate in an investment related forum that has the blocking feature. On the plus side, it keeps track of who I've blocked so I can easily click on their name to unblock them. An interesting feature is that the person who's been blocked - the one who writes basura all the time - knows how many people have blocked him. He doesn't know their names (a good thing), but he knows there are at least two dozen people that dislike him so much, they choose to block his name rather than skip his posts. That's got to be embarrassing.

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 10:52:

I would be happy to be put out of the moderating business. My volunteer stint was only supposed to be for a year. If the limit of moderation was deleting trolls and putting the occasional stray thread in the right place, that would be great. Believe me, it's not fun getting in the middle of these stupid squabbles.

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vicshere says on Jun 25, 2007, 10:59:

ok tinto you calling my squabble stuipd...how dare you :-)

listo

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 11:30:

Interesting......so, for those who have sufferred longterm psychological trauma from not being a teachers pet so many years ago in your childhood, did you whine back then too? or did you just move on with your life??? just curious......

Seems like you can take the Gringo out of the US, but you cant take the US out of the Gringo..........Remember, Whining and Conspiracies are the New Millenium American Pasttimes....no longer is it Baseball.......=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 12:07:

i mean...if I had a problem with Peter or any of the mods, rather than take the lazy and cowardly way of trying to humiliate and insult them in a thread, i would make use of the PM function to email them my concerns, and try to resolve the issue at hand.....and if it was not to my satisfaction, and i desired, i would take it to Peter....but either way, they are the mods, Peter is the owner, and i am not. So, i respect them, individually and in their capacity ( oops, i guess i am sucking up again, oh me oh my!!!), that i would either abide by their decision, or i would go find a more comfortable website.......obviously there are some people here who dont like to be told "No", or they dont like NOT being in Control like they believe they have in their own personal non-virtual enviroments....either way, posting whiney posts ad nauseum to help ease the psychological or ego pain some are feeling really serves no constructive purpose.............

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 14:31:

rather simple, actually.......some people who have a complaint about the activity of the mods and the job they do, choose to public ridicule the mods within a thread (ie, goosesteppers, etc) or make allegations that the mods have conspired against them on a personal level, or to create a new thread listing their complaint about individual mods....rather than addressing the issue between the mod and the poster, they just want to blast them in public........the humiliation and insults comes in when they are airing their complaint about the mods......

read my post, GIB/DG....i have not one complaint about mods, Peter, PBH....it was a suggestion only to civilize the process of mod complaints to Peter......as opposed to all the retarded whiney posts of a select few whose ego has been wounded.......read the title...it was a suggestion thread for the New PBH...what part of that did you miss? the post is not a complaint about the mods...it is an constructive suggestion...so there is not a need to send it in an email to Peter.....got it? or do you need more help with it?

"Can't take the gringo out of the gringo? I have no idea what you are talking about." gringo out of the gringo? did i write that? dont think so....but i am sorry that you dont understand the meaning of it......maybe someone can help you with that....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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podborski says on Jun 25, 2007, 17:12:

I don't know about this blocking feature, some of the girls might get upset if they get blocked?

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vicshere says on Jun 25, 2007, 17:33:

pod by "girls" do you mean some of the guys with a thin skin in here?

listo

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 17:42:

yes, alot has happened since you were in rehab from your mental meltdown...

feel free to peruse at your convenience for the whiney posts.....they stick out like a sore thumb......

moi? my attitude? only for you, sweetheart.....Colombia? been there done that....never a problem with my attitude.......sorry to disappoint you....oh, or are you suggesting that YOU will be the one to adjust my attitude??? something for me to look forward to, mr super internet hero......=)

gotta love a man who promises never to return, then does so with his tail between his legs......for the second time...pathetic.......toodles...=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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vicshere says on Jun 25, 2007, 17:45:

oh boy here we go again

listo

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 17:46:

And this is what I mean by a silly or stupid squabble. I wish people would just ignore (or now block) each other.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 17:54:

i guess he doesnt like my attitude....well, i am sure he will get over it......besides, if fired upon , i return fire.....bad habit, i know.....=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 18:03:

I guess now I'm gonna have to expand on my brilliant "PBH Argument" theory, which states:



A. The worst arguments have one or more Canadians in them



if A is false, then,



B. The worst arguments have one or more former military or law enforcement people in them

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 18:06:

=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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manINred says on Jun 25, 2007, 18:29:

Haha, tinto, could you elaborate on the essence of a 'worst' argument? i.e. arguments that lack the most logic, have the most bad words, etc...!

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podborski says on Jun 25, 2007, 18:35:

"The worst arguments have one or more Canadians in them" jejeje

I don't know why Canadians have a reputation (outside of PBH anyway) for being nice? Hasn't anyone ever seen a hockey game?

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 18:51:

Let's see... I would define it as a series of posts with personal insults, anger, threats and gratuitous swear words that have little or nothing to do with the original thread topic or the purpose of this website.



These "worst" arguments are almost always a failure to follow Peter's rule of "attack the content, not the person."

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 25, 2007, 20:42:

Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 22:12:

Hi Petey....thanks! but i forgot to tell you, i have real friends, and am not in any need of virtual ones....sorry if i gave you that impression.....besos!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 25, 2007, 23:00:

If I have understood this right, now it's just you, tinto and me who can still read each other?

I know what Miguel_Clavo is saying and appreciate the thought. GIB, you have been gone a long time, right? There have been a myriad of whiney threads about moderators this and moderators that. My job is here is basically being the cleaning lady of the forum. Deleting spam and obvious trolls; moving threads around to appropiate forums etc. maintenance work. Now that you guys can ignore each others and still keep on reading the thread it'll be even more maintenance and I'm thankful for that.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 25, 2007, 23:59:

ummmm...una pregunta, porfavor......why would a person want to read my thread if they choose to ignore me? odd.....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 26, 2007, 00:39:

M_C. of course they wouldn't if you were the OP but if it was somebody else's thread and they wanted to skip your comments. It can become a little chaoutic, IMHO if say, for example, I created a thread and nobody was blocking me, but half of the posters in my thread only read the other half of the posts...nobody but it would not be the same half...I don't know how to explain it.

Example: I create a thread about Chippy Chappy gringos. Miguel, UC, Kat, Goin_south, vic, GIB, gringoloid, Miguel and Miguel_Clavo send in their comments and start a debate. Only that Miguel does not read M_C or Going_South, GIB doesn't read Vic, Vic reads GIB but not M_C, UC only reads his own posts and me and Kat1, Gringoloid has blocked me and you, but not Kat1 or UC....the mathematical variations of the same theme are endless.
This is going to be fun!

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 26, 2007, 01:04:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 26, 2007, 01:25:

Desi that would be weird, so if I ignore example going south although he never make sense is any thread, and you are replying to something he commented on the thread, and because i ignored him i would not be able to see his commtes then i will probably will think you lost the plot :S

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 26, 2007, 01:34:

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 26, 2007, 01:40:

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 26, 2007, 01:40:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 26, 2007, 01:49:

Yes, kat, exactly. You'd think I've lost my marbles or that the elevator didn't go all the way up.

Peter, so if I delete somebody who's blocking me it'll be like a lightning that struck from clear skies? WOW!

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 26, 2007, 04:10:

so what is the point of having a moderator if you can blocked him or her :S

can they still have the power to deleted an offensive comment?

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podborski says on Jun 26, 2007, 07:06:

My brilliant suggestion to improve the 'ignore' function is for people to learn how to, oh how do you say it, uhh, ignore people?

(But I guess that isn't as much fun as having a button.)

Sorry for sounding like 'mom'.

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 26, 2007, 07:08:

Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 26, 2007, 09:52:

cool..thanks....that answered both of my questions......=)................=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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goin_south says on Jun 27, 2007, 14:29:

".....going south although he never make sense is any thread"

Now, that really hurts, Kat
after all the nice comments I make about you.

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 27, 2007, 14:50:

going south, I apologises my bad, lets a start fresh with this new cool lay out :)

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allucas says on Jun 27, 2007, 20:31:

I do not know if it has been mentioned yet, but I think it would be neat to have a services offered/job listings section for some of us who want to be with our colombianas before the visa is finished.

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allucas says on Jun 27, 2007, 20:34:

another thing, I think you have really put a great site together, I wonder if you could sell this idea to others.... for other countries and even link up with say lonely planet and the like.... the information out there on Colombia does not compare to this site.

There are other expats in other countries, and other men I know of who are marrying foreigners that would love to have a resource like this

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goin_south says on Jun 27, 2007, 23:29:

"...you are replying to something he commented on the thread, and because i ignored him i would not be able to see his comm(en)tes then i will probably will think you lost the plot"

say what? this is starting to sound like COLOMBIA/MISION IMPOSIBLE. jeje

I M lost.

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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scotty says on Jul 6, 2007, 06:43:

NOT ABOUT COLOMBIA

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 8, 2007, 23:02:

Doesnt have to be since the OWNER was soliciting for suggestions for the new PBH format.....So..........NANANANANANANANANANNANNA...jajajajaj....

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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