Steps to understanding Colombia

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 12, 2005, 11:11:

I haven't gotten past step one yet...gods I must be blind!
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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ColombianoX says on May 12, 2005, 11:18:

Tinto or Lionheart,

Could you please erase this latest anti-colombian topic. It seems that just about every day we get some jerk who only opens topics with the intention of insulting Colombia and colombians.


ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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caliche83 says on May 12, 2005, 11:20:

Let Him Speak although hard to stomach and some may be outraged, he hs the right to speak his piece based on his experiences. I hope this comment is not erased, as every should be able to say whatever the hell they feel like saying.

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Peter Miami says on May 12, 2005, 11:20:

What drugs are you doing? I am not Colombian but where are you from that it is so perfect.

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Mr. Hollywood says on May 12, 2005, 11:24:

Step 5 #5 Realize that your own personal interactions aren't evidence enough to condemn a whole nation.

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caliche83 says on May 12, 2005, 11:27:

so what just because you dont like it doesnt mean it should not be read by others. you've already labeled him as stupid and racist without even knowing him, so you are part of the same hypocracy.

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Mr. Hollywood says on May 12, 2005, 11:30:

I don't see either I didn't see anyone call the guy stupid or racist.

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caliche83 says on May 12, 2005, 11:32:

i dont want to be one of those anonymous assholes quarreling back and forth on the internet. I was wrong to defend a man's freedom of speech over the internet(which will soo be censored by the way) and you where all right. Satisfied?

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ColombianoX says on May 12, 2005, 11:41:

caliche,

Freedom of speech has it's limits when it degenerates into nothing more than slanderous dreck, so please spare us the "defending a man's freedom of speech" routine.

ColombianoX

'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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Cousin says on May 12, 2005, 11:46:

Why so hard on the Colombians.

There are good and evil in all countries.

My girl as much of a problem as she can be is a pleasure to know and has a good heart.

Maybe you just expect too much or need to change the places you go to for meeting people.

Los Cuatro

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Mr. Hollywood says on May 12, 2005, 11:48:

I'm not into meta arguments, Caliche But only one person asked for the post to be erased. The rest of us challenged the guy on substance.

P.S. I like your login. Caliche is cool stuff.

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ColombianoX says on May 12, 2005, 11:50:

"Erase this post adn I will demand every anti-american post be deleted too "

Tell me GIB, how many topics do you see that imply that "all gringos are shit", 'cause I sure don't see any, and if I did, I certainly think they should be erased.

"Your gringo friends will come and go to a point that you don't even bother talking to them anymore when you see them."

That's funny, because for me it's the opposite. The colombians I meet around here just seem to come and go also.


CX

ColombianoX 'Defensor de la Colombianidad'

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poco says on May 12, 2005, 11:52:

Damaged Bern sounds like to me he has been damaged

As in a sharp blow to the head ?

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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Gator says on May 12, 2005, 12:50:

A Simple Solution for Burnstein45 Put a Rubber Band Around Your Head and Snap Out of It!

TROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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poco says on May 12, 2005, 14:28:

Coming back from the dead Posters should wait more than,, say,,, 1 day,, having a poorly written topic / statement ready to post 55 seconds after becoming a member ruins further credibility. Next establish your knowledge base over a period of several days / weeks. Being a Colombian or having been to Bogota for long periods of time will enhance your credibility and allows the poster to ask seemingly uninformed questions or make absolutely unverified statements with impunity.

Another remaining topic with only a few of the many permutations:

Is it advisable
Is it safe
How many or Are there many
Some/many/most in U.S.
The best location
I know about the men/women but
Understanding / Knowledge required
Watch out when
ARE you SURE it’s safe
Do Colombians
The greatest experience in my life
What are your personal experiences
Do I have time to do both
I’ve done this many times (Insert Resume).


Swim up steam or piss into the Colombian wind.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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Gomezman5 says on May 12, 2005, 14:57:

Should this guy get the beneift of the doubt too? What do we have here?

I'll answer that question in his format

1.A member that is only a few hours old

2.A member that says you're blind if you think Colombians are nice.

3.A member that says Colombia is a bad place.

And this is all said in the "Friendly Talkzone" about Colombia. We used to call these people trolls. Now we are supposed to give them the benefit of the doubt because the title of his thread is:

"Steps to Understanding Colomba"

I think he is being sarcastic. Let's see what the moderators think. Maybe there is some hidden intellectual thought that is escaping me. But then again, what would a Cracker Jack lawyer like myself know?

ColX.....I'm with you. A whole lot of posts with condemnation, yet the
moderators are silent and nowhere to be found.

By the way, where do the women hang out in Cali ? Ooops, sorry.

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Mecaseconuncartagenero says on May 12, 2005, 15:21:

nice one Nice colombiano x and mr. hollywood... :) I couldn't have said it better.

Julie Perez :)

Julie Perez :)

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Lionheart says on May 12, 2005, 15:31:

actually ... I almost deleted this thread, but others have asked to keep it.

Often enough the USA gets bashed just as well, if not even more often than Colombia. But no, don't dare say anyting against Colombia, and generalizing about Colombia is even worse.

I think the OP ran into the same problems I have personally encountered a few times, but I don't think the generalization is correct. And a few others have mentioned similar experiences. The topic itself is worth a discussion, and other threads have mentioned the issues before as well.

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quindioman says on May 12, 2005, 16:21:

and there i was.... thinking this was a Colombian forum....

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mzzmerized says on May 12, 2005, 16:32:

there is a Dickens quote that applies to foreigners living in Colombia for any extended period..."It was the best of time, it was the worst of times." The best people I have ever met in my life were Colombians...the worst people too. The best times I ever had in my life were in Colombia...the worst too. It is a country of extremes but it is never boring...and you will never be more alive than when you are in Colombia.

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miamimike says on May 12, 2005, 17:16:

Need more Detail Hard to get your arms around what the OP was intending to deliver with his cursory comments. Tell us more...

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Lionheart says on May 12, 2005, 17:55:

looks like that other thread ... ... about the mystery of the missing blender.

Remembering comments from other threads it seems to be common practice to milk people, fellow Colombians and gringos equally. Somebody from Colombia wrote it is normal to give it a try, we gringos are just not used to it. Or remember the thread about the stolen remote control by a family member ...

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Mateo-FL says on May 12, 2005, 19:07:

I am thinking that he(Berstein 45) was just trying to get a response from people, and it worked........

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lpdiver says on May 13, 2005, 04:00:

Rule # 6 If you are having problems interacting with people ANYWHERE in the world; sit down, and take a long hard look in the mirror.

TP

"cook some rice!"

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dwmte says on May 13, 2005, 18:02:

what a go nowhere thread... are ya'll really interested in this battle?

ho, hum. i'm gonna take a nap...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

even elmo and desi avoided this (what did he say, 'dreck'?)

by the way, i've known a few 'shit' colombians...does that have anything to with erasing or permitting this thread? nope. it has to do with sleep.

good night.

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