I am happy with just normal average things. However, with my novia, everything has to be the best. She isn't happy with an average 100 per night hotel. She wants to stay at the 400 per night hotel. Eating is the same way. If it doesn't have white table clothes with waiters in bow ties, she doesn't want it. She wanted to buy a light jacket because she was cold. I suggested she go to Exito. She looked at me like I was nuts. I have mentioned this to her a few times that not everything has to be the best and she gets mad. She says that she will pay half. I don't want to seem cheap to her, but this chick is draining me.
By IloveCidy on Aug 12, 2008, 10:47 in Friendly Talkzone.
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papiChulo says on Aug 12, 2008, 10:52: show her the door friend avoid the unhappy and the unlucky 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Brians says on Aug 12, 2008, 10:52: I think you have a little soul searching to do brother.
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tasco66 says on Aug 12, 2008, 10:56: Why do you date materialistic women? Not being bound to swear to the dogmas of any master 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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poco says on Aug 12, 2008, 11:01: Quote: show her the door friend "When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks 3 funny, 0 helpful. |
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briarblue says on Aug 12, 2008, 11:19: To the OP, man, have you explained to her the budget you have for dating in no uncertain terms? When I start out with a woman whose tastes are too rich for my blood and she expects me to foot the bill, I head for the hills...in a hurry.
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 12, 2008, 11:21: A good woman will try to save you money. Drop this greedy chick like a bad habit.
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mrgizmo says on Aug 12, 2008, 11:26: It's ok if she wants to stay in expensive hotels and eat only at gourmet restaurants and dress up with expensive clothes, she has exquisite taste. Encourage her to do it and tell her to PAY FOR IT OUT OF HER OWN POCKET. Behind every successful man, there's a nagging woman 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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nine inch nails says on Aug 12, 2008, 11:27: Poco, The Hedge funds have all gone wild on us! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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nine inch nails says on Aug 12, 2008, 11:28: Morph too. jajajaja Thanks guys for brightening up my day. The Hedge funds have all gone wild on us! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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august says on Aug 12, 2008, 12:02: ILoveCidy, you sound unhappy man. I´m sure she´s hot (avatar and username dedicated to her! yesh.), but there´s nothing better than happiness. I agree with what´s been said above, free yourself man. I think you´ll surprise yourself how much you don´t need her and how much happier you´ll be when you´re with someone else who doesn´t think so much in terms of dollars or pesos.
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poco says on Aug 12, 2008, 12:18: Quote: I seen that photo before and love it! From CRT?? LOL "When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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gimmedub says on Aug 12, 2008, 12:33: hey i like staying at expensive hotels and eating at nice restaurants.... I don't know what's the big deal - unless you're funding things that is out of your budget!
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elmodefoque says on Aug 12, 2008, 12:40: "I am happy with just normal average things." lovecindy I'll get there, when I get there! 1 funny, 0 helpful. |
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poco says on Aug 12, 2008, 12:54: Quote: they wanna go from nothing to the top of the moon, in one giant leap "When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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ronaldo says on Aug 12, 2008, 13:01: LoveCindy: Ronaldo 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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richardshari says on Aug 12, 2008, 13:13: Typical Colombian chick! Sorry to say so! I just went in May and stayed at a friend's house and she's doing pretty well, but her way of thinking is bull****. Her daughter is worse than her. I couldn't stand her ass by the time we left, haven't spoken to her since.
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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 13:53: They're all like that, just want to see what they can get away with. Let her get mad, act like you don't care. She'll get the point.
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panthdave says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:09: Colombian Gringo said it all A Good Woman who wants to be with you will work with you and not make you go broke....Now there is some extreme here about being too cheap just need to know the limit....Many times I loan my Novia 50 Mil Pesos until she gets paid or asks for 10 Mil sometimes and was funny the other day she loaned me 200 Mil Pesos...She looks for specials all the time for clothes and finds good deals for me and her...We also once a month sit together and do the bills...We both like going to medium nice restaurants and then we ate at the Taco stand sometimes...Never luxury because we are saving for a car and want to git rid of the Moto. Anyways we work as a team and if that is not working you run for the hills and say adios..rapido.. panthdave Miami 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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GregYohn says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:17: Hola! 12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Cerealkiller says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:19: I think this is all very relative. You guys know your gf's better than any of us here but as a Colombian woman I suggest you look at her lifestyle, family etc. If you're dating an estrato 6 girl, you can't expect her to love your cheap gifts just because, she might but if you can't keep up with her lifestyle then I don't see the realtionship going anywhere. If on the contrary, her lifestyle is modest and you know she is clearly used to simpler things I suggest you make yourself clear early on. If that doesn't work then say this like you mean it: "Tienes huevo!", and walk away. Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lcacique says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:27: poco: a girl of the caliber in either photo that you have posted would be doing plenty by giving you the time of day let alone anything else. Get over yourself...you describe yourself as a fat gringo (and if I am not mistaken, you're on the decline in terms of your age); therefore, a girl would be deserving of some financial compensation in order to spend time with you. And what do you want from these girls? And why do you think you deserve to get it for free? Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta! 0 funny, 1 helpful. |
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Cerealkiller says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:41: You know I just remembered a note I got from one of my high school friends. He is a lawyer in CR and deals with transplanted gringos all the time. The story was something like: This gringo says he wants to buy a bar and retire with his wife in CR, he is in his mid 50s. Next time he sees him, wife comes and she is an 18 year old tica from one of San Jose's most colorful barrios. Then she leaves him and takes 25K dollars with her. He opens up the bar and meets the woman of his life -the barmaid-, who falls pregnant shortly after (getting pregnant by a gringo in CR is meal ticket for life). The woman manages the bar and despite of the fact that its always full the gringo is reporting massive losses and refuses to consider that the gf is stealing from him. He doesn't keep books, she does everything. Gringo can't afford a flight to the US, sells his car, and ultimately cannot afford his legal fees... Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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bickerss says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:44: That was funny CK!! Investment Strategy - buying when others are crying!! Offloading when others are gloating!!! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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panthdave says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:47: CK isn't that a little extreme. panthdave Miami 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Cerealkiller says on Aug 12, 2008, 14:48: Yeah I thought so too, but my friend was so distraught because he thought the gringo was actually a pretty decent guy. I didn't believe this stuff happened until I joined this forum... Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sloopskipper says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:09: IloveCidy, I think you already know the answer. Better now than after marriage & babies.
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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:31: Not as much as Cidy loves American Express.
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papiChulo says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:44: deathnova... ppl in glass houses amigo... "Mine asked for a moto once" becarefull of that one buddy... ;) avoid the unhappy and the unlucky 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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rocinante says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:52: To the OP - "Stop whining and get a life bozo". This ain't Ann Landers "World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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quantum says on Aug 12, 2008, 15:52: That about makes it unanimous. Peer pressure demands that u dump her in a New York minute. Maybe one last wild nite.........
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Lipper says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:06: ____________________________________________
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dwmte7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:06: i'm married to what one would consider a mid range colombian woman now for near 20 years. have we had problems? next question? does she bitch and moan? next question. dwmte 0 funny, 4 helpful. |
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rocinante says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:17: Thems a lot of words Douglas - wasted on some Clyde posing as adult. "World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:23: well, roci, i hope not....i'm not sure i've totally woken up yet...there's hope for others. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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SUERTE GRINGO says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:24: You're in Colombia it's time to trade that gold-digger in for a newer younger model. “If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:29: I can't remember what our crack team of detectives decided -- is ILOVECIDY the same guy as CLYDE? As a refresher, CLYDE left us with memorable phrases like "I'm going to kick Papi's ass" and "I hate you all."
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papiChulo says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:43: my ass Tinto? well tell him to get in line...LOL avoid the unhappy and the unlucky 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:44: Nah, it was "Papi" his girlfriend's father. He had to get Papi out of the house so he could bop the daughter.
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Lcacique says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:47: nice, douglas...excellent points... Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta! 0 funny, 1 helpful. |
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papiChulo says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:48: jeez... couldn't the guy buck up for a motel... wots goin on wit the these young fellas.... demasido chichipato? lol avoid the unhappy and the unlucky 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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rocinante says on Aug 12, 2008, 16:55: PapiChulo - he just makes up these stupid situations - of course he could have gone to a hotel with the chick. Some people love to answer these posts but they're written by some kid behind a computer who has never even been to Colombia. He just trolls sites and posts in order to get advice - like "How to get Papi out of the house". "World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lon7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:12: its the same kid. they all have a very juvenile thing to them and are topics that just seem creapy.
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dwmte7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:23: stop it lon......you're talkin about my girl. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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papiChulo says on Aug 12, 2008, 17:31: rociante... I have noticed that as well some must have mulit handles... I think I'm even getting them figured out. avoid the unhappy and the unlucky 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:08: "deathnova... ppl in glass houses amigo... "Mine asked for a moto once" becarefull of that one buddy... ;)"
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dwmte7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:18: brothers, i'm livin proof that man can be as dumb as a box of rocks. but were not talkin rocket science here, this is all common sense. if it looks, quacks and walks like a duck, you know the rest. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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papiChulo says on Aug 12, 2008, 18:18: deathnova... I know you didn't buddy. But its a just warning... more so from her than me. I not taking the piss here but its a very bad sign when a chica tests you like this. avoid the unhappy and the unlucky 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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quantum says on Aug 12, 2008, 19:42: Hey Lipper,
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dwmte7 says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:29: kansas...fat city? i always thought 'fat city' was kettleman city in the san juaquin valley of calif. remember the the album by a group 'tower of power' and the album east bay grease..i think fat city is on there. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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deathnova says on Aug 12, 2008, 21:46: papiChulo,
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Joel y Luza says on Aug 12, 2008, 23:07: I know I busted your balls a bunch when you originally posted, in May, but I want to say move on and be happy dude.. I feel bad for you because you really fell for this gal..NOW, I want to tell you, there is plenty more fish from that pond!! just remember to kick her butt back into the pond before you wet your line again....
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Philly says on Aug 13, 2008, 03:35: I have had 2 Colombian chicks since I have been here, the latter one I married. Neither one of them have asked me for anything. I think you might need to look in the mirror, maybe you might have sucker written on your forehead?
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Cerealkiller says on Aug 13, 2008, 04:51: Joel I think you have a very romantic idea of relationships. No woman will scale down to her partner's status, not in the US, Europe and let alone Colombia. She might do it for a little bit, but once the novelty wears out you'll find yourself older, poorer, and alone. That's just the way it works. Chances are if she's a rich girl, she'll have her own job and make more money than you but no Colombiana will look at her man with respect if he is not at least her equal in terms of education and /or purchasing power. Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte7 says on Aug 13, 2008, 06:19: well, dear CK, have to take issue with that. since my entrance into colombia..late 80's..the majority of my friendships have been amongst the rich. now to say that a rich gal with a not so rich guy will not work is wrong. i know of several. true, they are an exception and add to that, they've been around...the world, that is. so they have a far more modest view/interest of life. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Cerealkiller says on Aug 13, 2008, 06:27: Well it depends how wide the gap is. But in Colombia women marry up thats pretty much the rule. Men, they don't marry up, they marry equal or down. I don't see why is that such a horrible thing, people from different backgrounds, expectations, experiences are just like couples who don't speak the same language. I would never advice anyone to marry someone they cannot communicate with, not because Im racist or whatever, its because its not practical and chances are it wont work. Same with money, women who are used to expensive things are living in a world different from the guy who shops k-mart. This kind of match will not work more often than not. Of course there are exceptions, but usually that is how it works and it works exactly the same in the US, and Europe... Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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richardshari says on Aug 13, 2008, 07:05: This last time that I went to Barranquilla, i stayed with this former "friend"of mine and her husband. I saw a disgusting materialistic side of her that just made me not want to have any type of connection with her any longer. Anyway, I was very upfront and asked her husband, what does a woman here do or offer to a potential husband? How does she prove herself? And he said, they do nothing. I was like, ok, and when you're married? he said, they do nothing. So that's why alot of these guys also cheat on their wives, THEY'RE BORED. The women here in the U.S. have to have the whole package. We need to know how to cook, be intelligent, work, be independent. At least in the majority of the cases. But this couple that i'm talking about, have money and pretty much THE ONLY duty the wife has is to tell the "muchacha" what to cook for dinner that day.She doesn't even really "raise"her kid because the kid has another "muchacha". So in conclusion, these chicks that have money want to be kept! And in that society, it's expected that her husband does so.
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droble77 says on Aug 13, 2008, 08:27: Actually, I kind of agree with both ck and richard. Although given male-to-female ratios I wonder if all women are able to "marry up" considering the # of single mothers goes up as you go down the strata levels. This is true in the states too by the way. . . I believe we recently passed the "tipping point" in that over 50% of households with children are led by single mothers instead of two-parent homes.
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richardshari says on Aug 13, 2008, 08:29: Hi Droble, yessssss!! I forgot to mention that too! She has cheated on her husband and loves her cybersex!!!
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droble77 says on Aug 13, 2008, 08:39: Yep, lot of hanky panky going on down there. I think it's one of the reasons why the local ladies are so lovely. . . it can't just be from the climate and altitude, lol! ;-))
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GregYohn says on Aug 13, 2008, 08:42: Hola! 12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Joel y Luza says on Aug 13, 2008, 08:46: CK-- I said scale back, just not too much... I don't look at it as romantic, just pragmatic. If somebody is in love, they will adjust their life a bit to welcome the other in....
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 13, 2008, 09:51: Very true morph. My uncle knows a girl from an estrata 6 family who married what she thought was a "rich gringo" only to find out that the guy was a broke ass security guard who'd be lucky to make $10/hr. He had her living in some rathole apartment and as you can imagine, she was miserable.
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 13, 2008, 10:47: Sad, but true.
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 13, 2008, 10:48: Ha Ha. These guys could go to the Polo outlet store and buy a few shirts. That should be enough to pass themselves off as rich gringos. The second guy could say he went to the prestigious Budweiser U.
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elmodefoque says on Aug 13, 2008, 11:00: colombianitas would tear each other to pieces to get to these guys I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 13, 2008, 11:08: If one if these guys (above) even dared to approach or just say hi to a hot Latina from NYC, it would be considered an insult and immediate physical reprisal (beating) would be administer by the insultee. I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 13, 2008, 11:09: morph, better take those guys down, you gettin the colombianitas in PBH all hot and bothered with desire I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 13, 2008, 11:16: budweiser U I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sanandressi says on Aug 13, 2008, 12:58: You are frustrated now with your "novia" so you should DUMP HER now and meet another one and if she frustrates you then DUMP HER until you find one who does NOT frustrate you. "This train will stop in Tucumcari" 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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gringoloid (Trustee board) says on Aug 13, 2008, 13:25: it's not a question of what the gringos look like...............it's a matter what kind of a guy would she have in colombia:
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sanandressi says on Aug 13, 2008, 13:44: Some of you males never have learned it have you? Just like many in the animal species, the male wants to make as many babies as he can...well...do the wild thing. The female has to carry the child and care for it so why should she not want a man who has some wealth and or fidelity to help her with the family duties? "This train will stop in Tucumcari" 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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panthdave says on Aug 13, 2008, 15:29: CK has it wrapped up.....after reading the posts... panthdave Miami 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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deathnova says on Aug 13, 2008, 15:33: "Zero but in Colombia they can pick and choose between girls like this:"
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Joel y Luza says on Aug 13, 2008, 16:05: only $15k???? Damn!!! You're cheap!!! I was thinking $20K for me wife...DN...can you help me get it past customs???
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Joel y Luza says on Aug 13, 2008, 16:35: cankles will only get you a $399 ring from Wal-Mart
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deathnova says on Aug 13, 2008, 17:37: JL,
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briarblue says on Aug 13, 2008, 17:43: Sanandressi said: "Concentrate on yourself before you rip others to build up your poor self esteem."
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briarblue says on Aug 14, 2008, 04:22: Passport, I only write down names of recommended restaurants, places to see, etc., not names of posters, lol.
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elmodefoque says on Aug 14, 2008, 04:42: guys guys please, what ever you do is your business, all we are doing is giving you some good sound advice. I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 14, 2008, 04:47: when you see her dressed in colombian colors, waving colombian flags all over the fokin place and heading to the colombian festivals with her colombian amigitas where they gonna see tons of colombian guys all over the place and she don't want you there, don't come crying to us I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 14, 2008, 04:51: and when she's home sick and wants to go home for 6 months to be with her parents and you call her and a guy answers, don't worry, that guy is her cousin "favio", they all have cousins name favio, the one you never met I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 14, 2008, 05:05: these guys have no idea what they're gettin into. I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 14, 2008, 05:06: gumball machine jajajajajajjijijijjajajajaj I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Aug 14, 2008, 05:14: hey morph, i think we have to put all these modeques thru the "QUEENS CHALLENGE" I'll get there, when I get there! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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deathnova says on Aug 14, 2008, 05:27: I think you guys fail to realize that a lot of us aren't running around seeing how many Colombianas we can score, it just so happens in many cases that we came across one that we liked. That's it.
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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 14, 2008, 05:34: ilovecidy seem to be related to pow wow
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manINred says on Aug 14, 2008, 05:38: " I know if I wanted, I can find a real virgin bride from a middle class Colombian family that would marry me even if the ring was from a gumball machine."
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 14, 2008, 07:44: I tend to agree with Elmo and Morph. If you can't pull an equivalent woman in the US and yet you have some hot Colombiana, chances are she is with you primarily because of that blue passport in your pocket.
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panthdave says on Aug 14, 2008, 07:57: CG hit the number....also a few comments from CK hit the number...Are they really many guys that come down to just find a girl or I thought the majority was to come down and party like animals away from the US jurisdiction and have one night stands and move on.. panthdave Miami 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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panthdave says on Aug 14, 2008, 08:11: "Favio" I am still laughing LOLOLOLOLLL Can't get over that... panthdave Miami 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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richardshari says on Aug 14, 2008, 09:47: Unfortuntately, alot of the guys here are saying the truth!! I'm a female and like I said, now that I was in Barranquilla rubbing elbows with the elite, it just sickened me. Honestly! And yes, if the "gringos"stop giving them things, stop taking them to nice places, you WILL be kicked to the curb just like any other Colombian dude they know.
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panthdave says on Aug 14, 2008, 11:18: I don't know my experience and current relationship sounds so much different than what I see in PBH...Well I know one big difference met novia going out one night not thru the internet. We both work as a team and we both work. Everything is working out naturally...like almost a couple here in Miami...but in Medellin...Not looking to have a full residence in Miami but staying in Medellin instead...but want a small apartment we could come too Miami for mini vacations...Anyways..lets see..almost 2 years now... panthdave Miami 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Joel y Luza says on Aug 14, 2008, 15:11: richardshari-couldn't disagree with you more.. alot of posts about relationships here, I don't take too seriously, just because some are so asinine.... but I will make this comment-- Most guys on here, (yes, there is exceptions), are 40 something and looking for a 20 or 30 something chica in Colombia.. Not only that, a HOT CHICA....Whether you are a hot 20 yr old chica in the States, or in Colombia, you get your fair share of attention. Its just normal.. Now, interject some gringo throwing around benjamins while on vacation, and it becomes a bit intoxicating for the chica.. Reality hits at about the time she is sitting in Los Angeles, working at Subway, while this drunk overwieght 40 year old is slaving away at his job. On top of this, the language and cultural barrier kicks in. there is really no life experiences to bind this couple together...Watch her be on the first bus to any place with a rich Colombian culture, grinding hips with some Colombiano down at the local cantina....Bottom line, she will be bored with your a$$, but definitely not your check book.
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dwmte7 says on Aug 14, 2008, 17:24: here, here dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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manINred says on Aug 15, 2008, 00:41: lol fair enough morphus.
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Lcacique says on Aug 20, 2008, 14:58: Joel: several are looking for girls that are under 20 years old. Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cali_brahh says on Sep 16, 2008, 12:59: holy crap who is that colombian chica in the pic above???????????????????????? i nearly fainted
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Sep 16, 2008, 13:04: That is Andrea Rincon, otherwise known as Selena Spice. You will find pics of her naked ass all over the web. However, fake pucha chicks like that are a dime a dozen in Locombia. I think she is a Caleña
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