Special visa no longer needed

wOw says on Feb 20, 2005, 07:31:

Birth Certificate When you say "birth certificate (notarized within 90 days of wedding), does this mean I need to physically take my birth certificate to a notary and they will notarize it to attest its authenticity??

wOw

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critter says on Feb 20, 2005, 10:18:

Birth Certificate If you already have a notarized copy of your birth certificate and the date is not within the 90-day requirement, you must get another one issued to you ($11 for the 1st certified copy and $2 for any additional copies..in Michigan, at least). The notaries will only accept "a fresh copy", dated within the 90-day range. Also, I was informed my novia that, according to the notary, it is also possible to obtain the apostille at the court house, instead of having to go to the secretary of state in your state's capital. I'm not sure about this one; I'll have to follow up to make sure.

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sandramoreno80 says on Feb 20, 2005, 10:30:

The big deal about the Colombian birth certificate, is that subsequent notes are placed on it, it is like a little history of your civil status. So when you get married, a little note will state who you got to married to and where, this is also true to divorce.

So, if you are getting married, then the notario or priest wants to make sure that you are not lying and not already married, that is why they ask for a recent authenticated copy, because you could have presented an old copy where the slate is clean. That is why they ask for it to be a copy no older than 90 days before the date of the wedding.

But of course this does not apply to you, because I am assuming that you ae foreign and our birth certificates don't work that way.

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wOw says on Feb 20, 2005, 13:34:

Thank you both for your input. This is all new to me.

Sandra, your explanation explains why they require one within 90 days of the marriage, thank you for your explanation.

Critter, do you have a marriage date set? How is all working out for you so far??

Just some info on me...My fiance is from Cartagena. I am Cuban-Colombian but born and living in the states. Been dating her for like 3 months and ,although its kinda early, have been thinking of marriage with her because she is just an incredible woman. Would like to take care of all paperwork, requirements,etc.....starting now, in case I decide to make her my wife.

wOw

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thetick says on Feb 21, 2005, 19:25:

Clarification please I feel like I jumped midstream into this conversation. What exactly do completing these relatively simple steps allow you to do?
Thanks!
Tim

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wOw says on Feb 21, 2005, 20:02:

For those wanting to get married These are steps for those foreigners that want to marry a Colombian national inside of Colombia.

What Critters original post was stating was that in the past, a foreigner wanting to marry a Colombian National inside of Colombia, needed to obtain a special "Marriage Visa" from the Colombian Consulate in order to enter Colombia and be able to get married there. A tourist Visa was not enough. NOW, since Feb 1,2005 that is no longer the case. A tourist Visa suffices to enter Colombia and get married there.

However the other requirements such as Birth Certificate notarized within 90 days of marriage date, letter of singlness, divorce papers (if applicable), all of them notarized and apostilisized are still required by the Notary that will marry you Civily inside of Colombia.

And that is only the begining....I'm still learning

wOw

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thetick says on Feb 21, 2005, 20:26:

but marriage is limited to Colombia Thanks for the response...but from talking to a few here in the US, if you're wanting to come back to the US, a marriage in Colombia doesn't necessarily get you that far; my understanding is that it may not be recognized...or have I been talking to the wrong people? I hope it would be, that would be super!!!
Thanks again
Tim

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Moshe Weizmann says on Feb 21, 2005, 20:34:

When you say "birth certificate (notarized within 90 days of wedding):
Is that because the date of birth changes after 90 days?
That rule would make more sense for the marriage certificate, letters of singleness or divorce papers.

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Lionheart says on Feb 21, 2005, 21:39:

docs needed birth certificate issued and notarized within 90 days prior of wedding date.

You need the letters of singleness and all divorce papers translated and apostilled as well.

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eagle46 says on Feb 21, 2005, 21:59:

Marrying in Colombia Critter,

You made this statement...
"and must be delivered to notary 20 days prior to wedding."

Does that mean that if you are in Colombia for less than 20 days, and the bells go off about 1 week before you are to return to the states (but you have the docs perpared), then "No Marriage!??" Can you help out on that one?

Also, do you have to get the letters of singleness notarized also? Or get everything notarized?
Thanks!

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poco says on Feb 21, 2005, 23:50:

Toooooo good to be true Checked with a notary in a small town. They are NOT aware of any change. They will NOT issue a marriage license w/o the Visa.

Please post a link to a reliable source. Somewhere the rules are changed.. where??

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FredGarvin says on Feb 22, 2005, 05:33:

Then find a different Notaria. Poco,

I am sure that it will take some time for all Notarias to get current with the new changes -- but that does not change the fact that new changes have occured. You will not be able to obtain the Special Visa here in the States -- they do not do this as of Feb 1, 2005...

Prepare your documents, find a different Notaria (or help educate the notaria), then send copies of your documents to them so that they can have an opportunity for review. It's a good idea to get everything done ahead of time.

FG

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 22, 2005, 06:52:

Thetick, you have been sadly misinformed. Of course a legal marriage in Colombia is recognized in the US. Many people on this board have been married in Colombia and their marriages are legally recognized including mine.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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