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Some Help Please. Gator?

My sister is doing all the paperwork to come to the UK, she has been here before a long time ago with her eldest child, he was about 18 month old. Anyway when she got pregnant her and her BF were very young they both registered the baby even though my mother brought him up, 10 years later my sister got pregnant again (with the same guy) but during the pregnancy the father of the baby left for the USA never to return or care about the kids, she gave birth to a little girl and although he knows about her existence and in very rare occasions he sends her money or a pressies, he never cared about registering her, my sister tired of asking him to send his birth certificated and all the paperwork she needed to register a child, went and registered the girl with her own Surnames, so the little girl have now my sister's surnames while her eldest child has the father and mother surname.

Anyway she went to the DAS and applied for their passports and had no problems, the DAS said to her just put Madre soltera (single mum, which she is). she got the passports. But the problem now is, she is filling the British visa form they are asking for the girl's father name, my sister doesn't know what to put, she has to put something because otherwise she can't go to the next page. She tried to put my dad's name but it won't accept it, what about if she puts the real dad's name but also it won't be accepted it because of not having the same surname, and in case if it's accepts it, will it be a problem because of her oldest son having the surname of the father but the little girl no even though they have the same father. Do you know what I mean?

too complicated :(

My questions are:

If she puts the father's name, but they will see the girl has different surnames, will this be a problem?

do you think Will it be a problem knowing she has another child but he has the father's surname?

Will she be alright leaving the country as a single mum? I mean would they ask her for the father's permission or other kind of authorisation.

She is filling in the form tonite, I talked to her last night and told her to put the father's name, but I am are not sure :(

I am calling her tonite again, to see how is it going..

have any of you have a friend who has filled in this form as a single mum? what they put as a father's name?

By kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) on Jun 6, 2009, 03:22 in Friendly Talkzone.

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 6, 2009, 03:23:

bump

Also she is a bit worry that on the form they ask if she hs ever hold passport, in which she had ( the colombian one) but on that passport her son was included with the surnames of the father and mother, like everone, and if they keep records they will see this, so if they see her daughter has the same father as her oldest child but not carrying the same surnames she is worry that they might think she is taking her away from him.

Will they keep records of this :S

I am just trying to make sure she fill in that form very well.

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Bill Turley (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 6, 2009, 06:57:

I know nothing about UK policies however in this day many women are single with children from different fathers ( different sir names). She could also state the the father is Unknown. This is simple a reality of life in our times. Good Luck Kat ( when are you going to visit Somondoco?)

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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Gator says on Jun 6, 2009, 09:33:

If you have the birth certification from the notary and a passport that should be sufficient. You can make an inquirary at

https://www.visainfoservices.com/Pages/SendAnEmail.aspx

not much help and for that is apologize. I assume she tried like single parent, or father unknown etc.

I would thing She should be be able to schedule an interview as a single parent and present the child's birth certificate showing 'o father or father unknown. the child's application should stand alone regardless of what the others say,

"Bene, cum Latine nescias, nolo manus meas in te maculare" .

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 6, 2009, 10:38:

Thanks Gator, I will check with her if she is allow to put "father unknown", not sure if in the application this will acceptable, otherwise she has to put the name of the father even though they are not sharing the same surname.

Bill I'll promised you this year when I go back to Colombia i will visit you :)

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goin_south says on Jun 6, 2009, 23:53:

if she puts "father unknown".... don't you think that is gonna mess with the kids head/heart/soul... in years to come?
Just a thought.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 7, 2009, 02:22:

G_S he already has mess up the kids heart and soul leaving them and not caring if they are alright or not. My niece is a beautiful nine year old, but she's so grow up for her age and she is such a sweet girl, my sister has told her about her dad but it is difficult to explain to her why her brother has dad's surname and why she hasn't, we don't want her to think it was because he didn't love her. Anyway Thank God she has been brought up in a safe loving environment, we love her to bits, but saying this I can see how my niece and nephew kind of miss that mum and dad family thing specially when I go there with my kids and husband and they see the relationship between my husband and the kids. They live with my parents so at least they have an stable male figure at home, they respect my parents a lot they call them mum and dad instead of abuelo or abuela.

So a piece of paper won't make a different my niece knows that is only for a visa application and she knows that even though she knows who's her father is actually he is unknown to her she doesn't know him anyway and she deeps down knows he can't be bothered with her. She adores my husband and my husband adores her, he is his Godfather actually he is the Godfather of both of them and I am her Godmother.

This is her first time in the UK and outside Colombia she is over the moon!!

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