Single Successful Man Looking To Move To Medellin

rocinante says on Nov 12, 2005, 14:04:

caution You will stand out like a turd in a punchbowl especially if you speak. I would not go to Colombia without a local to greet you and show you the ropes. Also women in Medellin are not as pro-gringo, green card oriented as many of the other cities. Does "lucky in love" mean 1.) hookers 2.) seriously dating a respectable woman or 3.) bringing a wife back to the US? If you don't speak decent Spanish, generally in Medellin you have option 1. If you do speak decent Spanish you have a great shot at #2. Generally speaking if you are looking for a wife to bring back to the states good luck finding a Paisa that is willing to move away form her family. I would venture to guess that options 2 and 3 would be better in a different city.

I know many on here are going to rip my comments and tell me that they brought their Paisa wife back to the US and yada, yada.... but generally comparing woman from Medellin to other cities in Colombia I think many here will back me up. No disrespect intended and I appologize in advance if my post is offensive.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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harocha says on Nov 12, 2005, 15:26:

Well the "SUCCESSFUL" part will ... get a lot of attention to be honest with you. If you want to blend, don't even bring that up, you probably have to use something like that in the USA if you want to find a Gorgeous woman, who is willing to date you, but in Colombia you better don't mention that, unless you are targeting a Minister's Daugther or a girl who's last name is SantoDomingo, Lacoutire, ($$$$) etc, etc, etc.

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 12, 2005, 15:54:

I have the same problem. Everyone keeps mistaking me for George Clooney. Damm, it's rough.

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kernow62 says on Nov 12, 2005, 16:24:

Better than being mistaken for Mickey Rooney!

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viewpoint says on Nov 12, 2005, 17:23:

Rocinante es correcto Rocinante is absolutely correct. Yes you will always be a gringo accepted mostly by your few chosen friends who include (adopt) you in their life and family but culturally speaking you are from a different world and it's hard to bridge that "Darien" gap. The illusion that latin women are interested in gringos is just that "an illusion". Sure a few are but the majority are not looking or even considering a marriage or relationship outside their culture and separation from their families, lifestyle and values.

Sobegringo,

It's safe to say that I am a single successful man but I don't try to bridge that gap anymore. Three attempts was enough for me. If you are truely as you describe yourself then the only women you should consider is upper strata women with muliple visas, USA or well educated, well traveled and willing and "ABLE" to adjust somewhat to your lifestyle. Your relationship has to be a merger of the two culutures with you embracing her culture and she embracing your culture. It can be an hostile takeover that sufficates her culture or the relationship will soon die. Water always finds its own level with a lake, the ocean and yes also with a relationship between a man and a woman of two different cultures. Start with a woman closer to your own level of water. Sex may be a driver of emotions but it's not the glue that makes a relationship last forever.

Evidenually you come up for air and want to talk to each other and have an intelligent converation with another person. When I was in my twenties sex was 80% of the relationship and now as I grow older it's been replaced by intelligent converation dominating 80% of the relationship and sex 20%.

The chances of you finding one of these women is damn remote as they are not so interested in foreign men who don't speak their language or share the same cultutal values. I am like Hunter and don't answer the phone anymore. There's plenty of great Colombian women but you can't expect a lasting relationship with both of you reading from different pages of different books.

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caslug says on Nov 13, 2005, 08:02:

to add to viewpoints post.. unless you work in that circle like he does, the chances of the rest of us meeting the uppercrust COL is remote. BECAUSE most of us are tourist or expat that are is not working in the COL workplace, hence you don't get expose to contacts. You MAY meet them on the street, gym, bars, etc., but that is a low percentage play. And it's even a lower percentage if you're just a tourist passing thru the city for a few weeks.

Goto a high end bar in COL, where the cost of drinks are the same as the states, the girls will NOT bother to check you out, unless you're BETTER looking than the young RICH COL guys there. Those gals have no interest in meeting gringos(especially at a bar scene). If you want to met those types, you'll have to met them outside that scene, which leaves, work, friends, country club, street, etc.,

Now if you LIVE in the city, and start doing stuff(volunteering, working, joining civic organization, etc., then you increase your chance of meeting those types.

That said, there's LOTS of nice, regular gals that are sweet, kind, educated, professional and beautiful out there too. Just they don't have the money or family connection.

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utopiacowboy says on Nov 13, 2005, 08:26:

Yeah I used to have an 80/20 ratio of sex to conversation but with a lot of work I've gotten it to 77/23.

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ws244 says on Nov 13, 2005, 10:27:

colombia Gringos are liked because gringos have money. How well you do depends on what social class you become involved with. Colombia is very class oriented regardless of their education, and with the lower the class you will be more received if your thinking is in the context of finding women. Higher class women are difficult due to social structure, although some of them are also looking for a one way ticket to the states, and in this case you would only be further financing their profession and future. Just a fact of life in any 3rd world country.

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rocinante says on Nov 13, 2005, 11:41:

gringoDeLo "interesante. Por Que no?"

The Paisa mentality is a little different than women in other big cities. They have this pride - it's just the way they were brought up I guess - I can't explain it. They would rather not get stuck with a loser gringo. Can anyone here elaborate?

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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jwcronin says on Nov 14, 2005, 17:46:

Sobegringo Sir: IF...you are coming to Medellin in December...and do NOT have a place to stay as of yet, please consider our home, which has one single bed (available now), or our double bed room, which will be available on December 16th (just in time for the Christmas season). The rate is very reasonable, and we live in a quiet residential area. If interested, please write to Jack, at

Jack Cronin

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CuriosJoe says on Nov 17, 2005, 11:08:

you'll be allright... depends on your age, looks of course, but I've seen many paisa couples visiting Cartagena: gorgeous lady, short fat man. I am sorry and I hope I do not offend anyone here, but it seems if you come from US you have an advantage. I think Medellin is a perfect city for you: it's big enough and has all kinds of women. And not all paisas have blond hair. My advise to you go and have fun with the ladies and have open mind, be fun yourself, and if you don't meet that someone special then at least you will have had fun with a few -:) My 2 cents.

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dwmte says on Nov 18, 2005, 04:52:

sobe.... any chance that stands for south beach? just curious.

medellin is wonderful. lots of art, culture, great architecture, cultured inhabitants an deeply ingrained family values. in my opinion they are the best colombia has to offer. if you think you'll arrive and meet a socially prominant gal and just 'fall in love' the fact is, most likely, you'll just fall.

forget all of the nonsense of entering into the upper strata of colombian social life. that is a time oriented project and requires, ultimately, that you BE the part. you cannot fake it.

colombians are obsessed with pride, and it's not necessarily ill placed. the upper strata are educated, travelled and cosmopolitan, and their manners far exceed those of an equally groomed american woman. they are groomed to a fault and cultured even better, an wont for a moment put up with some fake ploy.

if you really seek that intrance--and are qualified--go there, live there, become a part of the community and society. participate in their activities/charities/benifits, etc. join the country club and become known. trust me, they will scrutinize you like you've never been scrutinized before. they don't turn their precious daughters over to some unworthy interloper...hardly, they'ld shoot your ass first...with a smile. and trust me, there is not one ounce of jest in that comment.

fucking with the landed class has landed more than one pretender face down in the mud. if you are serious about your pursuits, go about it in the proper, cultured fashion.

colombians are incredible, wonderful people...but at no level of their society are they fools.

good luck.

dw

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DonkeyDust says on Nov 19, 2005, 09:09:

I seem to be in a similiar boat to Sobe Medellin has captured my immagination, it will be the place to spend 6 to 8 weeks this January.
Background. My Spanish works if the person is patient.
I want to get involved in Medellin society doing something I enjoy. First comes to mind is a tenis club, next a gym, next kick boxing and yoga, learning spanish and spending a good bit of time in restaraunts and bars (dancing...well I speak better chinese than I dance. Perhaps getting involved in a charity, maybe an orphange tutoring English.

Any tips??? Top of list is tenis...anyone know a good club central where I could start to get intouch with some people now?

thanks if you can help... maybe I can take you for a couple of beerson when I arrive.
PS I am concerned about going without friends.

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viewpoint says on Nov 19, 2005, 18:08:

http://www.countryclub.com.co/ great tennis courts

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