single colombiana mami's and extraneros

Mariangela says on Jan 2, 2005, 13:34:

We were talking about it Hi, Don Negro,
I started a new topic yesterday about the same subject, titled: "Single mothers in Colombia- Middle class reality". Paisa29 had something to say about it, too. Check it out. It's on the first page.
Happy New Year!
Mariángela

Mariángela

utopiacowboy says on Jan 2, 2005, 16:01:

I can explain it. We are losers who can't get anyone else and the Colombianas are losers who can't get anyone else. So it's a perfect match!

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 3, 2005, 15:55:

Good luck with your quest to find a virgin in Colombia, Mitch. I still don't think they'll let you marry a 10 year old.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:05:

Naughty, naughty... I thought we were going to pretend to be respectable in 2005? If you're not going to, I'm not either!

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:10:

and also very wrong there's plenty of virgins in Colombia but these are not the girls who'd flock around the visiting gringos.
Cheers,
Desi

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:18:

Judging from the posts on some other threads, they don't need gringos to deflower them - that's a job the Colombianos seem to take pretty seriously. Nearly every woman over puberty has a kid it seems - often with some guy she never hears from again. Then no Colombiano will have her except for sex so again some loser gringo has to take her. Let's face it - there's just not enough loser gringos for all the loser Colombianas out there.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:21:

Has..... anyone in the other threads ever considered that two people might just have fallen in good old-fashioned love in spite of their different cultures, colors or background?

Nah. That's a ridiculous idea.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:24:

and since when do you judge the current state of the Colombian society from some threads on some internet board?
Tinto, don't you have any statistics on how many Colombian women over the age of 18 are still virgins? You might be in for a surprise....
Cheers,
Desi

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:25:

What would make you think that, Kim? You've been watching too many sappy movies. In real life, people of different cultures usually hate each other.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:28:

Apparently so... to think two people fell in love of their own accord is ludicrous. I've been watching too many chick flicks I think. You must want something from your wife. Or she must want something from you. I'm wise to these types of business arrangements, despite never having met you or your wife.

utopiacowboy says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:33:

I laughed when I read your comments, Kim. Yeah, I'm getting the business all right! Actually I find mi pequeñita delightful and inexpressibly amusing - I can't quite figure out how someone so cute is roaming the earth.

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:35:

I'd love to see Tinto's statistics - this may call for some sort of personal survey on his part. Elmo may have to assist him.

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Save the Wildcats says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:37:

Seriously... it's good to see someone so in love. You both are very lucky.

Elmo's survey would involve someone putting four on the floor and I don't think that's good for a surveyor.

isaactraveler says on Jan 3, 2005, 16:46:

4 out of 5 people think Tinto makes up his stats 7 out of 10 people think bubble gum is yummy

teppar says on Jan 4, 2005, 01:36:

mitch just out of curiousity.....you look for virgins, but are you one?

cheers

YEP says on Jan 4, 2005, 03:23:

He he .... "deflowering stats" you must be joking now.
The stat's to look for would be "mothers age when giving birth the first time" or more stats made by local "government" on special projects.

Things like # of streetkids and the like.


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salma says on Jan 4, 2005, 05:22:

Arghhhhhhhh Why is it not possible for some to JUST fall in love that really is the stupidest thing i have ever heard - i fell in love whith a Colombian and it was very innocent and probably one of the best relationships ive ever been in.

Thank god everyone is not as narrow minded.

God Bless
S.
xxx

God Bless S. xxx

salma says on Jan 4, 2005, 05:26:

Mitch -
Lets get to the point you being typically male by saying that a woman should be a virgin are u a virgin or is it ok for a man to do what-ever please him.

God Bless
S.
xxx

God Bless S. xxx

teppar says on Jan 4, 2005, 05:34:

mitch.... darlin...i'm a woman...relax with the gay issues...

while i don't agree with your judgemental attitude, i respect that you are judging others by the standards you set for yourself.

cheers,

Mario says on Jan 4, 2005, 14:34:

Hey, I thought Neandrathal and Cro-Magnon Man were extinct?

YEP says on Jan 4, 2005, 14:49:

ROFL .....
Mitch1x ..... that's why you'll be missing the 2 in your nick until some stupid enough will accept you view ;-)


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caslug says on Jan 4, 2005, 14:59:

too funny mitch.. I once read on another board a poster thought like you. He said something to the effect that, if he has sex w/ another women other than wife/gf, BUT wears a condom it's not cheating. because...he's really having sex w/ the condom, ha, ha, ha, of course he never told his wife/gf his belief. BTW, are you in your early 20's?

ReinaDeLa Baile says on Jan 4, 2005, 15:24:

too good Hey Mitch:

Let me get this straight darlink.....

IF I am your wife and I have sexochiquitoculo love with your friend, say Elmo, BUT he wears a condom, that is fine with you, right? I mean, we are going to use condoms, so it isn't sex?

Also, I need to talk to your boss, with a microphone, but I will put a condom on it first as well, so that's not cheating, right?

OOPS! I forgot, when I did it with your baby brother last night, we tore the condom, sigh, guess I am caught huh?

What about the burro? Do I have to use a condom with him too? Help me elmo!

Lionheart says on Jan 4, 2005, 15:50:

I contest that Mitch1x I believe women are just as much into going astay as men, they are just more intelligent than men and don't get caught that easily. Do some eavesdropping at the local hairdresser or exercise center ...

isaactraveler says on Jan 4, 2005, 16:44:

if you use a condom and it tears i think it is called rape.

also, if you use a condom while masturbating it doesnt count, and you wasted a condom.

lastly, if you use two condoms (the other on your hand) then I think Ed McMahon has to write you a check.

Mario says on Jan 4, 2005, 18:18:

No insult intended Mitch But you will never last in any long term relationship with an intelligent woman as long as you maintain your current relationship philosophies. I've known several guys that held the same beliefs over the years, and these were people I've known for over 20, 25 years. Guess where they are now? They are in a bar getting drunk and talking about how they can only afford one more beer tonight because the child support payment for the three children born before the wife had had enough and divorced their unfaithful ass is killing them. If you find the right woman, you will remain faithful, and your current philosophy will die an easy death. Believe that. Anybody else care to share some wisdom and back me up? Or is it worth it to try?

Lionheart says on Jan 4, 2005, 18:35:

Mario What about the faithful ex-husband with child support for 3 kids after getting divorced, because the ex-wife decided to check if the grass is greener next door? Many US states have no-fault law and by default the children stay with the mother, keeps the house and car, etc. It is a myth that only the men are the unfaithful dogs.

Mario says on Jan 4, 2005, 18:53:

No Shit Lionheart... Guess what? My ex had cheated on me 3 times within a 2 year period with three different men. I caught her every time, was arrested for making "Terroristic Threats" when I arrived at the home of the third scumbag and stood outside telling him to come outside and confront me like a man. I actually did tell him that I was going to rip his face off and that was the "terroristic threat". This is Texas. So I confront someonewho is jumping in my saddle, so to speak, and I'm arrested for trying to confront him...In Texas no less. Nevertheless, I'm glad I divorced the classless excuse for I wife I thought I loved.

I never said that "only the men are unfaithful dogs". Never said that so don't put words in my mouth, OK? But the truth of the matter is this: Men are way more inclined to cheat than women are because women don't think with the johnson. Women are more emotional generally, and unless in a pre-doomed relationship, drunken out of their wits or coerced by some "gift of the gab" SOB - use forethought. Men are more driven to animal instincts for the sheer momentary joy, regardless of who gets hurt and regardless of the imminent repercussions because that is not at the forefront of their thoughts when the iron is hot. They just strike and worry about the consequences after the lipstick on the collar is discovered later.

BTW - You are one of the last people on this site that I would've thought would take up for the less than thoughtful views posted heretofore. You've also strayed entirely from the point I was addressing.

So - does anyone care to share their wisdom on the POINT I was addressing?

Lionheart says on Jan 4, 2005, 19:27:

a bit confused now I picked up on the unlucky guys at the bar barely having enough money left for a beer, they can come from either side ...

"only the men are unfaithful dogs" wasn't meant for you, I don't know you well enough ... I am just tired of many many posts potraiing men as the evil-doers. I differ from your general statement about men, maybe it is just me, I have never been unfaithful. And I don't plan to change myself.

So basically, if I understand your point correctly, Mario, if you find a good wife you will stay faithful, otherwise not? I don't really think so, from observations I have made if a man is used to jumping saddles he will continue doing that. To me it is more a mind-set, less dependent on how good the wife is. What is the right woman you are talking about? Please clarify that, why would the right woman be able to tame the dog?

I hope to find my woman in Colombia who will remain faithful to me, so I die a happy death ... easy death? Depends under which circumstances I die ... a latina's passion can be deadly, but what a way to die.

andrews says on Jan 4, 2005, 19:31:

c'mon women just don't talk about it women are much, much better at keeping secrets, but give a guy a twelve pack and a couple of shorties...and he's gotta talk about somehting. That's why the truly best ass hounds out there keep there mouths shut. I've got a book written by a women w/ some interesting stats.. ill go grab it.

teppar says on Jan 5, 2005, 00:27:

ok...just realized i misunderstood... mitch...double standards and saying that a man will always cheat is pretty pathetic. any person who is decent, and who respects other human beings, will not cheat once they have made a committment to be with another person. this applies to both men and women. i think it is a character trait in people to either be faithful or not. its not about having a 'good' wife or a 'good' husband, its about living a life in which you treat other people with respect. if you want to stick your bits in another person's, or have another person stick their bits in yours, with or without a condom, you should have the decency to end your current relationship before falling into bed with the new person. or bending down on all fours in elmo's case.

relationships should be about a deep connection to another person. not a conscious decision to be with someone. i'm not going to talk love b/c i'm sure the men on this board will shoot me down in a moment. but i will say that instead of looking for the beautiful outer package, or a checklist of traits, start to consider first who you are and who the other person is on the inside. perhaps if there is a connection that goes beyond beauty and sex you'll find that the desire to cheat and fall into bed (or on all fours....i can't forget your preferred position elmo) is not there.

anyway...that's my random two cents.

cheers.

Mario says on Jan 5, 2005, 05:34:

Lionheart, I know we're on the same plane but just differing because of miscommunication since communication is really hindered in a forum like this. It would be best discussed over a few beers where we could bat our thoughts off of each other in a much more lucid manner, but I'll try and shed some light on my views.

Yes, the guys at the bar can come from either side, true. Men as evil-doers is a debatable point and we may probably differ here but that's what makes the world go 'round. I see myself as understanding fidelity and living my life as a faithful companion, as I did to my ex-wife throughout all of her indescretions, and also to my close friends, the friendshipa are and have always been as faithful as brotherhood. The truth of thematter, in my view, and with regard to intimate relationships is that men don't generally abide by this.

So you and I are on par with each other in our fidelity, and I won't inquire as to the problems you've personally encountered but I'd venture to guess that you've stood in shoes much like mine.

"If you find a good wife you will stay faithful, otherwise not?"

I believe I've addressed this. Through 9 years there was only one. After all that happened, I didn't even try to "get even", or level the playing field. And yes, a man inclined to jump saddles or be unfaithful, will probably always do so, unless they somehow discover that mmmm, maybe this isn't how I would like to be treated, so why am I doing this... why can't I be faithful, and then choose to adhere to that.

"why would the right woman be able to tame the dog?"

Good point. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks... but I've seen it happen. There are relationships which have changed people from their former characterization to something completely different and I think that the reason was that they discovered something that they hadn't found before, and some of what they discovered was within.

I agree about Latina passion. What a way to die, indeed.

Teppar's right when he talks about a "connection". That's what I'm talking about. If the connection is made, old habits will probably die - an easy death.

teppar says on Jan 5, 2005, 06:16:

not a guy... i'm a woman....not a guy...just thought i'd clarify since mario called me a 'he' :-)

cheers

Mario says on Jan 5, 2005, 06:42:

Ooops.... Sorry about that teppar!

Mr. Hollywood says on Jan 5, 2005, 06:56:

Virgins I suspect that if a guy made it known that he was searching for virgins in Colombia he'd meet a lot of them. Of course on your wedding night, Mitch, you'll learn that most of them would have three tattoos on their ass, a Brazilian wax, and turn out to be surprisingly capable in the sack, so your mileage may vary.

elmodefoque says on Jan 5, 2005, 08:08:

Teppar, ALL FOURS or doggie style, is one of the best positions only surpassed by good old “69�. Why is all fours so special? Well, is like driving a very enjoyable car and when I was younger I would compared it to riding a donkey. You have complete control, speed, time you wish to ride, you could dance while driving and the best music is “reagaton�. You also control how deep you want to step on the accelerator, so many different things even adjusting the seat by arching her back lower or higher, there’s just too many to mention. . You could also pretend to be riding a Jennifer Lopez even if she is not; you don’t see the face.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

YEP says on Jan 5, 2005, 08:17:

ROFLMAO
Great comment Hollywood ;-)

Nice to get some steam in/out of the system :D



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ReinaDeLa Baile says on Jan 5, 2005, 11:34:

don negro gracias -- very interesting reading!

Lionheart says on Jan 5, 2005, 14:17:

Elmo - I had a vision "You could also pretend to be riding a Jennifer Lopez even if she is not; you don’t see the face."

That's what mirrors in headboards are for, they are quite exciting at times. But my vision is another, including the mirror:

I saw Elmo renting a donkey costume, putting on the the head part, putting his gal on all fours, and seeing himself in the mirror as The Burro - the burro's revenge for all the female burro's of his past ...

My apologies to all if this image causes permanent damage ...

isaactraveler says on Jan 5, 2005, 18:34:

all women look like jennifer lopez from behind elmodefuque-style, I have had sex with Jennifer Garner, Jennifer Lopez, Sandra Bullock and quite a few other lucky ladies. Also Margaret Thatcher(don't ask)

nanis says on Jan 6, 2005, 11:12:

ok i thought that i had to post a comment here since i too was a single mum at one point in my life, i have a child from a previous relatiosnhip which ended up because he was too jealous and i just couldn't handle it he is colombian too and was raised there so he has this macho sense in him which i hated, i raised my daughter by myself while working hard and studying to get a good degree at uni it was a real strugle but i'm very proud of myself because i not only single-handedly raised my daughter but i also got my degree and a good job to support my daughter as well as myself but i also managed to meet a nice american man who is now my husband i call him american because he was raised there since he was a baby but he was born in colombia the good thing about him is that he's not as paranoid as my ex and that even tho he's not as jealous he still has his macho instinct in him because we girls love guys that are sweet but rough at the same time and that treat us well but can manipulate us from time to time. this is were the gringos came in we like gringos because they are sweet to us but we also like a guy that can make our ground shake from time to time to and old time goody goody if you are like that i can bet that your colombianas are going to get bored of you! somos masoquistas!

tzion says on Jan 6, 2005, 11:25:

From a 25-year-old: I may sound utopian and naive. But I expect to be with the one woman I fall in love with and expect the same in return. No cheating, no condoms-ain't-cheating, no bullshit. I'd prefer a virgin but won't top myself if she isn't.