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shipping a car to Bogota from the US

Anyone have experience with this? I might be moving to Bogota next year, and am wondering what to do with my car. Is it worth it to ship a vehicle (from Miami) or will it cost as much as buying a new car in Colombia? I know I can get around Bogota pretty easily with public transportation, but it would still be nice to have a vehicle for domestic travel. Thanks in advance for any advice.

By chontaduro on Aug 4, 2007, 09:10 in Friendly Talkzone.

Robert Jorge says on Aug 4, 2007, 10:54:

And you absolutely can't ship a used vehicle permanently to Colombia. A used vehicle can go with you on a tourist visa, but it also will leave with you. Importing used cars is strictly forbidden. Shipping a brand new car seems cost and time prohibitive. I was somewhat interested in this, and gave up the idea after reading the numerous posts and responses on this very topic. Do a search with the Google function at the top of the page. There will be gobs of info.

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vicshere says on Aug 4, 2007, 10:59:

Robert is right on ...buy a used car....when you leave you can probably get almost the same money back in the sale...so the cost of usage will be very low....better than renting

listo

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chontaduro says on Aug 4, 2007, 11:27:

Thanks everyone for your quick responses, and thanks for pointing me to the search engine, Robert. I had no idea that importing used cars is illegal! Well, I definitely won't be buying a new car in the US just to be able to ship it. I'd certainly consider buying a used car in Bogota, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it (and I'll be sure to read some other people's experiences). This forum is a great resource and I'm glad to have found it.

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Gator says on Aug 4, 2007, 13:48:

If it is used forget it. To buy here very expensive. Best bet wait and buy here, say two years old.

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vicshere says on Aug 4, 2007, 13:57:

Gator I bought my car when I got here 4 years ago... a 1992 Mazda 2.0 paid 15,000,000 today I can sell it easy for say 13,000,000 that's works out to usage cost of 500,000 per year...I think that's pretty cheap.....I agree used cars are very expensive here compared to the US....but the market is so controlled that used cars retain their value (or more value than north America)

listo

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Gator says on Aug 4, 2007, 16:26:

With the price of gasoline, about $3.25 USD, we use buses and the TM a lot more.

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vicshere says on Aug 4, 2007, 16:30:

I got you gator...I use the car more for family outs on the weekends,,going to the doctor and vacation.....everything else is motorbike....as my car is 2.0 liter the gas seems to run out the gas tank

listo

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Monpirri says on Aug 4, 2007, 19:05:

Como asi que Chontaduro? Yo no sabia que yo tenia familia aqui o un hermano gemelo.
Bueno compadre o comadre te felicito por el nombre chontaduro pues es una fruta muy apetecida en Colombia.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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gringoloid says on Aug 4, 2007, 19:12:

I hate to throw a wrench into this, but you CAN import a used car into Colombia. And you can do it for half the price that the same car would cost in Colombia. And the beauty of this is you can drive the car for a year and flip it for twice what you paid for it.

The story: Diplomats can bring in 3 cars per year; but of course they seldom do, so they sell their right to someone like me. I made a deal yesterday with a diplomat to buy 'a spot' from him for $15K. There is another $3K on the colombian side.

I'll let you know what happens.

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vicshere says on Aug 4, 2007, 19:31:

gringo 15K is 30,000,000 plus 3k is 6,000,000 for 36,000,000 plus the cost of the car plus the shipping of the car.....for 36 mill I can buy here in Colombia a very nice used car..why would you want to go through the hassle

listo

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gringoloid says on Aug 4, 2007, 19:46:

vic...I took this out of tucarro.com and this represents a lot of what I've seen in Colombia.

http://www.tucarro.com.co/anuncios/carros/bjy-212.html

153,000 kilometres???? and he wants $40.000.000! and he is going get something near that too. You call this a good deal?

So right now, I have my spies at 15 car dealers in Miami looking for a 2006 Range Rover for me. Do you know what a Range Rover goes for here in Colombia?

I also want it to have some slight body damage which I can get fixed here in Colombia for free, as that really cuts my price down to about $55K.

That car is worth a 150 grand here, and when all is said and done, I will have paid half for it by colombian prices.

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vicshere says on Aug 4, 2007, 20:14:

gringo gringo that's not a car that's a four wheeler truck.....not your normal vehicle in that case I see some reason......as long as you done the math

listo

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gringoloid says on Aug 5, 2007, 06:47:

vic.......you said you had a family. If that's the case you need something bigger than some kind of tin can.

these taxi drivers here in bogota have a tough time makin it up the hill here in rosales.

i see the point, this method will not work on a 1987 nissan altima, 200,000 kms, that sells for $25.000.000. and why would anyone imort this kind of a car anyway.

you need something that will fit the family on long trips and be able to make it up and down the mountains comfortably.

and of course, a tranny automatico.

i can get a 2007 chevy impala, slight body damage, very low miles, for 10 grand in Miami. when all is said and done, I can drive this car for years and then sell it for more than what I paid.

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robi666 says on Aug 5, 2007, 08:09:

gringoloid, no offense, but 15k USD for a spot from a diplomat seems much too high price!
With the 3k on the government side, plus expenses (passing properties two times, etc..), you get easily to 20k = 40 millions of pesos! You'll never get that back selling a used Impala in Colombia.
Plus, you can import that Impala 2007 without having to use the spot. You can import used car, if they are 2007. Do not ask me why or how, but I know you can.
Buying spot is good if you have to import a very expensive used car. I am doing some investigation myself about what a spot may cost... I'll let you know!

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gringoloid says on Aug 5, 2007, 08:29:

robi666, please tell more, as I've already found a diplomat that is offering $12K.

the expensive car from miami is the whole point, ....not the total that you brought up.

what my point is, if you buy the car right in Miami, (MINOR BODY DAMAGE THAT I CAN GET FIXED HERE IN BOG FOR FREE), .............THERE IS NO COST FOR THE CAR!

Because the car can easily be flipped, even years later, and you wind up driving a luxury car for free. and if you sell it within a year, you can make almost double your money. Tell me what's wrong with making 75-125% on your money in a year.

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robi666 says on Aug 5, 2007, 08:35:

Still, how much could you get for that Impala in Bogotà?
I am waiting for a spot, too. So I don't know the price, yet. Just that 15k or 12k seem very expensive to me...
I can't tell you more at the moment.

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gringoloid says on Aug 5, 2007, 08:38:

here is an example, and I can do much better than this on the price:

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=... descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-|E-|M-_5_|D-_3197_|N-N|R-30|I-1|P-PRICE descending|Q-descending|Z-33139&aff=national&paId=230904180&recnum=10&leadExists=true

BMW, 2006, like new, low mileage, automatico, 44,500 USD.

I can get a car like this for about 32,000 in Miami at the auction. And even less if it has body damage, which I said I can get fixed for free.

Now take a look on tucarro.com at what an older, manualshift, high mileage BMW is going for, like $220.000.000 COP. We're talking rough numbers, of course.

So the point is I can ship this thing in for half the price available in Colombia.

The reason you can bring in a 2007 is because it is still a new car; but you're going to have to pay an outrageous tax on that.

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gringoloid says on Aug 5, 2007, 08:42:

robi, I can only tell you that it works on expensive cars, that are new, and have a little body damage.

I can get two spots, so if any one else wants to split it with me, maybe we can get a better price, like maybe $10K.

The cars are flown into bogota and then place in the free trade zone. Takes 2 weeks from start to finish.

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gringoloid says on Aug 5, 2007, 08:51:

you asked about an impala........take a look at this piece of shit:

http://www.tucarro.com.co/anuncios/carros/keg-131.html

a 1981 going for $22.500.000 COP. I wouldn't be caught dead ridin around in this thing, even if I paid $22.50 USD for it. When I was a kid, we would take cars like this, get drunk, and drive them off cliffs.

A car for less than $40.000.000 COP in Colombia is just not worth it.

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robi666 says on Aug 5, 2007, 09:27:

Yes, for a BMW it can definitely work out. I wouldn't bother doing it for an Impala.
I am checking myself about prices, I hope I can give you some news soon.

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chontaduro says on Aug 5, 2007, 10:31:

Hola Monpirri, no se si somos gemelos, pero si, soy fanatica (hembra) de los chontaduros. La ultima vez que estuve en Colombia me sustenaba por una semana comiendo chontaduros con agua de panela (un amigo paisa me introducio a esa maravillosa combinacion). De hecho, a mi me encantan todas las frutas tropicales, (un buen mango es razon suficiente para vivir!) pero el chontaduro tiene un lugar muy especial en mi corazon porque lo probe por primera vez en Colombia, y ahora en mi mente, tengo unas asociaciones fuertes entre esa fruta y el pais.

Sobre el asunto del carro, lo dejare por el momento, hasta que llege a Bogota. No estoy en el mercado por un carro de lujo (o cualquier cosa de lujo).

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BAQ says on Aug 5, 2007, 13:29:

FOLKS, I just purchased a new Totoya here this is the deal. If you dont have $$$ to spend, forget it. just take the bus, taxi ect. You CAN NOT import a used car and these govt sell their spot deals are stupid, costly and RISKY.

YA new or used car IT FOR FREE, either the IMPORT FEE for approximatly 70% of the price DIAN thinks its worth, not what YOU say it is worth

Semper Fidelis !

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gringoloid says on Aug 5, 2007, 14:19:

Hey Baq, I'm afraid to respond as you might hit us with some serious copies of comments.

I hope your car runs better than your computer.

These cars are flown into the free trade zone; DIAN does tax them, as you say.

Tell me the year and make of your Toyota and I'll tell you what it would cost the diplomat way.

Diplomats are not under the same rules everyone else is.

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Lowell says on Aug 5, 2007, 14:59:

I have just one word. PARTS. American or other foreign made cars may be a bit hard to get parts for. And then you pay big $ for them. Then you have to get someone who knows how to work on it.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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vicshere says on Aug 5, 2007, 15:35:

hey Lowell that's a good point....I can get almost any part for my Mazda....either at the dealership very expensive or local parts stores cheap but parts at Chinese...which really I don't care as long as they work.....hers an example of parts for my car.......timing belt 10,000......got a rebuilt water pump installed for 45,000 you could touch those prices in north America with a 100 foot pole....by the way the water pump I installed about 2 years ago and still running

listo

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robi666 says on Aug 5, 2007, 15:45:

Ok, I'll tell you about the Colombian way and how things work on the coast...
They buy a very cheap old car, or a wreck, let's say a very old Toyota Burbuja or a new 4x4 model after it had an incident. They are interested in the chassis and papers.
Then they go to Maicao or Cucuta and get a recent car for the same model, stolen in Venezuela.
They get it back with it, dismantle it and mount it back on the old chassis.
They can have a cheap and perfectly legalize car this way! :-)
No need to say that it works for parts, too! Lowell, don't you live in Barranquilla?

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RussianFred says on Aug 5, 2007, 21:50:

I priced a new BMW -6 for under 70K. Why buy used?

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Lowell says on Aug 6, 2007, 17:39:

Nope I live in Cartago. Want to go to Baq when I can afford it, but would miss the heck out of my LG (little Girl) and the costal heat would be a bitch. It's hot for a few hours a day here. But, not humid. Clear blue skies and no tourists!

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gringoloid says on Aug 7, 2007, 11:08:

Fred.....you're being hosed; why would a new BMW-650 go for less in colombia than in the states? Does it have an engine?

There is a woman named 'Alice' here from Nigeria trying to give away her $8.5 million dollar inheritance. Don't fall for that one either.

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campbell says on Aug 11, 2007, 00:43:

Hey Loid,
Check out the price of Caddilacs on TUCARRO. There is an 87' De Ville for 40.000.000 (Aya) Where I come from that is a 2500 car. So if there was a way to get it down there for under 7 grand (theres gotta be) and there is a 35% ($525) import tax you could make a 100% profit. What other fees are involved?

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vicshere says on Aug 11, 2007, 04:19:

campbel....you can not import used cars into colombia .....period

listo

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RussianFred says on Aug 11, 2007, 16:49:

A freind of mine purchase a new BMW 6 series for under 70k in Medellin. I went with him to the dealership. The 3 series was only 5k less. The sales stated the tax is much higher on the 3 series. This is Colombia it does not have to make sense. I was warned not to buy the 6 series because I would me killed for the car. I am looking at the Mazada.

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 17:32:

Vic.....you CAN import used cars into colombia....there are two ways that I know of.

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vicshere says on Aug 11, 2007, 17:57:

ok gringo do share it with us....i am all ears

listo

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vicshere says on Aug 11, 2007, 19:03:

gringo we wait ......please do tell..or at least PM me

listo

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 19:09:

vic....it's all above...read it. You can go to ediplomat.com to learn about diplomats and how they can bring things in to any country. there are companies that take care of the shipment and the documents in Bogota; there are several of us here at pbh doing this right now. A pbh member owns a company that makes these transfers.

There is another way of exchanging the vin from a wrecked car but I'm not going to talk about it even though it is done every day in colombia. I feel it is wrong.

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vicshere says on Aug 11, 2007, 19:56:

yea gringo but I am not up to paying 15,000 bucks to bring in my old motorcycle...still that is not a legal way to bring in a bike...although the vehicle does become legal......by the way I am on that site and it has nothing there about cars http://www.ediplomat.com/

listo

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 20:11:

as I say above, you should not use this method for older cars. 2006/7 used cars only. that way you can drive the car for a couple of years and sell sell it for double than what you paid.

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 20:11:

there is a section on ediplomat that describes this method, let me see if i can find that page. thats a really big site.

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vicshere says on Aug 11, 2007, 20:15:

gringo what I have said before ...that is not a used car by Colombian standards.....a used car in Colombia is like 1995...1994..1990...1985.....2006 2007 is a new car in Colombia.....and beside my life style does not include a new car.....that's why I am on PBH site...i am one of the poor ones.....you guys are too rich for me

listo

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 20:28:

a car that was bought new by someone, driven off the lot, and then sold by that person sometime afterwards is just as used as a 1980 Chevy.

what I'm sayin is, it just makes more sense to get the newest used car you can get so as to make this worthwhile, and then later, 'flip' it, if you like.

the diplomat is going to charge the same $12-$15K whether it is a 1990 or a 2006.

you wanna get the biggest bang for the buck.

as for the other way, which is really cheap, and done every day in colombia:......I refuse to discuss something like switching vin's, even if you can't get caught in colombia. It's illegal in the states so as far as I'm concerned, it's illegal anywhere.

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 20:51:

lencol, if others want to talk about what they are doing, that is there business......i consider it a private matter.

my comments were directed to vicshere only as he was questioning, 'can it be done?'

anybody want to place some wagers?

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vicshere says on Aug 11, 2007, 22:17:

like I said before I am living the real life of POOR BUT HAPPY in Colombia...if I had 20,000 or 30,000 bucks I would be buying a finca or something else.....beside I think that paying off a diplomat is corruption and you are part of the corruption problem of Colombia ....no wonder this country is having a hard time changing...we have rich gringos throwing their money around... I just can't figure out if you have that kind of money why you live in Colombia....if I had your money I would be living in lower Texas ....now theirs a nice place to live...just so you know I live in Colombia cause here I can live on very small amount of foreign income...that I could never live off in the US

listo

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 22:49:

vic.....it's not 'paying off' a diplomat; he has the right to bring in a certain amount of cars every couple of years and you are dealing with him....not the colombian govt.

as for you lencol.....you say you live in Bogota.........and so do I.......if this is so imaginary, (yeah, that's the correct spelling of the word), why don't you place a wager with me? I would put it on my digital movie camera too, so we can post it here on pbh.

do you have the guts to backup your accusation with some money, or are you just a troll as I pointed out in the beginning?

its only a short taxi ride to Cl 3 con Cr 14.

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gringoloid says on Aug 11, 2007, 23:58:

you're on lencol.........$1000.00 USD

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 00:27:

alright, lets make it $5000.00 USD. I'm collecting the emails now and will post them on your private email; the address I got when you were looking for a 'leg breaker', last week. I'll also send you the other two members that I've been working with as well as the company name, owner, phone number and address of the organization that brings the cars in.

I want you to state here and now that if i do this, and after you verify the truth, (and it is the truth), that you owe me $5000.00 USD.

just in case I deleted your address, which I usually do of idiots, spammers, etc. send your private email again.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Aug 12, 2007, 00:36:

sorry, but if any US Diplomat participates in such a selling of a government provided benefits will get that Diplomat reassigned if not brought up on criminal and/or administrative charges resulting in loss of employment, criminal/civil punishment......and yes, it probably would result in charges of corruption...the media would have a field day with that one as well, and the "buyer" can be brought up on criminal charges as well......AFAIK, US diplomats are only entitled to 1 (ONE) diplomatic vehicle...unless you be the Embassy Director or Deputy Director....happy hunting!

so are these United States Diplomatic personnel the "diplomat spots" are being purchased from??? =)

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 00:42:

the exact date of the pick up is unknown, as the car is to be flown into bogota and then taken intot he free trade zone.

don't worry lencol, I have all the proof I need right here on my computer that satisfies your questions. We can always go over to his garage when I return to Bogota and you can see for your self.

I have the emails of the other two guys also.

whats the matter lencol, you afraid to bet?.........haven't got 5 grand?? Even if you did, your soon to lose it.

whats wrong with backing up your mindless accusations with money? I'm not afraid to say here and now, the car, the address of the place, and the other two pbh members who you can write to. I'll send it to your private email and you can write and call them your self.

know what a bet or wager is lencol? You challenged, I made an offer of a wager to back up what I said, and now you haven't got the guts to say you'll pay if your wrong.

And believe me, you're going to pay!

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 00:52:

yeah, I'm sure you believed that too, what do you expect someone to say......and further leennotsocool, it was not me who wrote that she was asking for money, take a look at the post before mine.

so let me get this straight lennotsocool, you want me to provide the evidence first and then you will decide if you want to bet.

like i said, a troll and gutless troll at that.

we may meet up yet, lencol

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:00:

go ahead, gutless, weezle out of this bet........ when it comes to paying, your're the one that is going to pay.......that's why i want the money up front...

i don't need any 'connections' to deal with you.....you're not even a challenge.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:02:

are you talking the Irish Pub in zona rosa?

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:08:

you agree to pay the money and i will cut and paste the email of five days ago to the man that arranges shipment, to you within minutes. c'mon gutless,

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:09:

you agree to pay the money and i will cut and paste the email of five days ago to the man that arranges shipment, to you within minutes. c'mon gutless,

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:13:

I'm also going to email the other two guys for permission to send their addresses to you.

there is another well known poster here, GIB, that knows where I'm at right now, and what I'm doing with a car.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:19:

this is what you wrote chowder head:

lencol says on Saturday August 11th, 2007 20:39:

gringoloid , you say ....there are companies that take care of the shipment and the documents in Bogota; there are several of us here at pbh doing this right now. A pbh member owns a company that makes these transfers.

who are the several doing it,
whos the pbh that makes the transfers,
and you are doing it right now ,put some paper work up .
i think your full of it.......

So, lennotsocool.......these are your words:.....your asking for the other two people, your asking for the pbh guy that makes the transfer, and put some paper work,

actually i have emails and live conversations which will unfold as you put up the money. this is what the bet is..........so put up, or shut up

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:22:

go ahead gutless, keep trying to weezle out of the bet.....

I'm not sending anything until the money is up. I will gladly put my end up as soon as we meet.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:26:

so tell me einstein, you want me to post the proof and then you decide whether you want to bet or put up the money. sorry, I wasn't born last night. I know I'm right, we're going to take a little trip to cl 3 con cr 14 and you shall see.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:31:

no it is not hard, just agree to pay the money and I'll post the proof on your private email.

you said I was 'full of it....", I challenged you to a wager,

...you want the proof first before you agree to the bet. doesn't work that way gutless,

and i have to get up early in the morning.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:36:

do you not understand english? take a look at the cut and paste of your words 5 emails ago, those are the terms of the bet. those are your words, you shouldn't have trouble understanding your own words, do you? those are the words that you challenged me with on the wager.

and brother, believe me, you are going to pay!

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 01:52:

ok, punk, check this thread tomorrow.......you're about as gutless as they come. i don't care what the monkey says, you're a worm. To challenge someone and then weezle out of a bet.

lencol, you 're an Edsel with four flat tires; or maybe a Yugo without an engine.

As long as you've been exposed here, then I guess it was worth it. All you have to do is agree to pay up if you lose and i'll post the info, and even send you a picture and copy of the title.

But then again, a Yugo without an engine is like a lencol without a brain...

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 07:53:

i have a joke for you lencol...

Whats the difference between an internet troll and a Yugo? You can't slam the door on a Yugo!

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robi666 says on Aug 12, 2007, 08:31:

Wow,this is getting such a mess! PBH is here to help people. Gringoloid has not interests in writing down sensitive infos and I hope he will not. He started all of this just to inform people and if someone cannot get it right, well...

Again, I try to put things on the original meaning, there two ways to import used cars to Colombia:
1) A "cupo diplomatico". With the right connections, a diplomatic spot can be bought. You can see some cars on tucarro.com imported this way. Clearly enough, how to acquire it and the process are sensitive infos that you won't get on any paper,altough I do not see any problem with the law here.
For example, have a look at http://www.micarro24.com/hummer_h3_usado_por_210000000_negro_en_bogota...
or
http://www.clasificar.com/guias_clasificar/tramites_cl/archivotrmites/...
2) You can import a good used car and change everything on a bad one. This is done everyday on the coast. Cars are being bought in Maicao or Cucuta, usually stolen, in 1st class condition, and put on a wrecked much older car in Colombia, keeping just the chassis and the VIN number. This is, of course, against the law and you won't find anyone publicizing this on the Internet.

I hope this can help and that we can have positive discussion from this on!

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 12:10:

thanks, Robi, one person asked me specifically to not mention his name or email on this site.

none of the people i talked about previously, who are importing used cars, have participated in this thread and only an internet troll like UTC or lencol would do that kind of stuff anyway.

I reread lencols stuff and have decided that he made the bet and named the price and invited me to the bar where he eats lunch and also his to home to collect the money, so I'm going to send all of the info on pm. The info is indisputable and can be verified outside of me, so lencol is going to owe and pay me five grand.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 15:15:

i need someone to tell me how to post an attachments using the pbh mail system. I've scanned the documents into my computer as a pdf attachment. Any help would be appreciated. lencol, why don't you send me your pm, you've done it before.

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robi666 says on Aug 12, 2007, 16:02:

Lencol,
yes, you're probably right, not worth the effort.
But tell us something about el puente de Rumichaca and judge 17, and how it has something to do with an easier way to import cars. You made me curious! Colombia is always a surprise...

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 16:55:

Hey lencol,

Why the hell would you bet Loid 5 grand that he cannot import a car to colombia if people import cars to colombia everyday?

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vicshere says on Aug 12, 2007, 17:00:

campbell ???

listo

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robi666 says on Aug 12, 2007, 17:11:

Wow, campbell, all this is getting laughable... LOL

Walter Sobchak: Were you listening to The Dude's story, Donny?
The Dude: Walter...
Donny: What?
Walter Sobchak: Were you listening to The Dude's story?
Donny: I was bowling.
Walter Sobchak: So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...

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robi666 says on Aug 12, 2007, 17:14:

well campbell, look, man, I've got certain information, all right? Certain things have come to light. And, you know, has it ever occurred to you, that, instead of, uh, you know, running around, uh, uh, blaming me, you know, given the nature of all this new shit, you know, I-I-I-I... this could be a-a-a-a lot more, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, complex, I mean, it's not just, it might not be just such a simple... uh, you know?

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 17:21:

hahahaha

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 17:39:

Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not "Mr. Lebowski". You're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the Dude. So that's what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing

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vicshere says on Aug 12, 2007, 17:40:

campbell you smoking that cheap crack again

listo

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 17:59:

No sabes El Lebowski Grande? Que Lastima

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robi666 says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:05:

Crack?
Oh no, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback.

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Man Tequila says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:23:

Brandt: Mr. Lebowski is prepared to make a generous offer to you to act as courier, once we get instructions for the money.
The Dude: Why me, man?
Brandt: He believes the culprits might be the very people who, uh, soiled your rug, and you are in a unique position to confirm or disconfirm that suspicion.
The Dude: He thinks the carpet pissers did this?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:28:

that rug really tied the room together

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:30:

i am going to go find a cash machine

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:37:

vicshere,

earlier in this thread you said:
I just can't figure out if you have that kind of money why you live in Colombia....if I had your money I would be living in lower Texas ....now theirs a nice place to live...

ummmmm.......
South Texas sucks

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campbell says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:38:

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:47:

ok lencol, check your email and believe me, there is a lot more coming.

you have been given the car and the recent purchase for shipment; the name of the company that you can call tomorrow; the owners name; the date of 8/2 when we made the deal to do this on the email; long before this thread started.

robi was right, i was just trying to help out some misinformed people like yourself and vicshere.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 18:49:

and lencol, i found his phone number where you can call. its coming on your email.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 19:16:

alright lencol, if you say you have not received the info......you're lying.

you can verify everything outside of me with your phone and computer.

your point above is wrong........i never said "i paid 15k and 3k", i said that is what it costs.

i said i made a deal and on your private email i gave you the name of the company and phone number where you can verify tomorrow. you can also go to carfax with the VIN i gave you and they'll verify title receipt i received last wednesday for the car. Take a look at the issue date.

there are a lot of friends that i have here at pbh that know that i am in los angeles now specifically moving a lot of my belongings, including a car to Bogota. you will soon be convinced yourself.

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 21:36:

here are your terms, cut an pasted from above:

lencol says on Saturday August 11th, 2007 23:33:

whats the wager ,
list the deal now if as you say you are doing at the moment ,
whats the car you are bring in
how much
when is it getting here
then we will see about the wager.and how much .
My address is Avenida Suba # 130 - 32 penthouse 802 you can get me most days here.

you say lencol, list the deal now if as you say you are doing at the moment. (for an englishman lencol, you sure have a way with words)

ok, i did that, and i gave you a lot of info on pm that you can check. I gave you copies of emails from the shop.

As i told you on pm lencol, you owe me $5K USD, I never said I had written receipts, I said I made a deal with the company I mentioned to you. It is a verbal agreement which you can verify tomorrow.

I told you all paperwork will be scanned over to you as it comes in;

one more thing lencol, YOU ARE GOING TO PAY!

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Miguel_Clavo says on Aug 12, 2007, 21:43:

uhhhmmmm..lets see....the check is in the email? =).....do we get a cut of the money for reading all the posts between you two??? =).......but here is a preguntita, por favor.....

lencol=gringoloid???

=)

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 23:05:

alright lencol....37 private emails, plus what ever is here on this thread. jolly good job of trolling; I'm sorry i took you seriously.

i know now, after the pm's that there are several people writing under your name. pretty good job of wasting my time.

i still say you're pow wow.

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goin_south says on Aug 12, 2007, 23:18:

gringoloid, cheq yer pm

Colombia es

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gringoloid says on Aug 12, 2007, 23:37:

yeah sure pow wow. for anyone that wants to know.....lencol is the newest version of pow wow. there is no doubt now.

bend over pow wow and you'll get an apology.

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goin_south says on Aug 12, 2007, 23:44:

yer not gonna let Brazilian Hottie spank 'm, now R ya?

Colombia es

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 13, 2007, 14:04:

Gringoloid and Lencol:

- I haven't followed your entire argument but please remember to keep it civil.

- As for the voluntary disclosure by Lencol of an email and physical address in the messages above, that's not the best idea if someone is trying to remain anonymous

- Gringoloid, please remove the MySpace information from your signature line. I know it's not the most personal type of info, but it makes your little dispute go on and on and on...

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Gaijin says on Aug 15, 2007, 14:31:

Hey i havent read this whole thread but to let everyone know you can import a used car into colombia legally its a loophole in the laws of colombia. I'm not going to explain exactly how to do it, but i'm letting you know you can do it, but its not going to have colombian license plates on it for a long time. I'm in the process of doing this with a car i bought in florida for $400 USD.

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Gaijin says on Aug 15, 2007, 14:34:

Oh by the way the way i'm doing just doesn't let you sell the car. So you can't buy a used car out of colombia to bring it into colombia to sell it. Unless you fake the vin, which like someone in this thread said if it illegal in the US then I'm not doin it..except for weed LOL.

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