Shakira's other job

sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 13:53:

bump

Simon says on Apr 21, 2008, 14:39:

That's funny, I was about to post the same thing. I like how Wolf Blitzer keeps referring to her as a "global superstar", but I also wish he'd refer to her as a 'Colombian' superstar. Let's see what Shaki has to say and let's hope she mentions Colombia!

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goin_south says on Apr 21, 2008, 14:42:

If a Colombian makes pottery in North America, is that then...Colombian Pottery?
Or, is it American Pottery? (I need to know, for marketing sake)

y, un mil gracias.

dwr says on Apr 21, 2008, 14:49:

Why didn't Shakira show solidarity by showing up at the concert for peace? You would think that would have been a priority for someone who claims to care so much about her country.

Simon says on Apr 21, 2008, 14:52:

You're right dwr, she should have been there!

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sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 19:51:

I had to run to a doctor's appointmentment and barely was able to capture this video.

We must remember that this little girl has commitments and can't just run off from, as much as she might care. And "someone who claims to care so much about her country"?

You all can leave your jobs for something you really care about, and face lawsuits for unfulfilled commitments?

I was amazed by her good English!

Simon says on Apr 21, 2008, 19:56:

Her interview with Claudia Palacios which aired afterwards on CNN en Español was much better.

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sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:03:

Sorry, I posted video twice.

sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:06:

Simon, Global IS more important than Colombian.

droble77 says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:18:

LOL, Shakira flirting with Wolf! :0)

Also funny how she calls Zain Verjee "evil" when she tries to squeeze a presidential endorsement out of her.

Simon says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:24:

"Simon, Global IS more important than Colombian."

The hell it is!

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sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:24:

But she is a bit of a diplomat, as well.

sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:26:

But you live in the U.S., Simon? Interesting.

Simon says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:27:

OK, so is 'global' more important then the U.S. also? If it is, then I'll agree with you.

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sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:28:

Yes, global is more important.

sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:29:

Than the U.S.

Simon says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:29:

Ok then, we agree.

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sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:29:

Chevere

sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 20:31:

Speaking of global concerns, has anybody else seem the film, "Sharkwater"?

Rikito says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:16:

By the way all, there were no women at the concert and many of the men were not Colombian either. As I have said before, when you want to criticize Shakira look up the amount of money she has given to charity and the number of charities she not only contributes to but acts on their Board.

How much has Juanes donated or the other males who performed? Shkira probably gives more than all of them combined. Like her or not, she is by far more impact in her professional life than any of the male only performers.

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:26:

I think im the only colombian who doesnt like shakira.

sloopskipper says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:42:

Agreed, Rikito. I am no big fan, but how can you dislike her?

Rikito says on Apr 22, 2008, 07:57:

I am not saying that I like or dislike her. Some of her stuff is good and some of it isn't. This post is not about her ability to sing. It's about the people who think that she was a bad person for not showing up at the concert. Why single her out for not attending when there were so many others who could easily have performed but made a deliberate attempt not to. I believe Shakira was in northern Europe or some place close at the time performing in contractual concerts.

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

Mononoke28 says on Apr 22, 2008, 08:21:

Uhmm... no, she wasn't in Europe doing "contractual concerts". Escándalo TV said she had the same "contractual concerts" in China. But come to find out, the press finally said that she was STILL vacationing in Argentina and Uruguay.

The only time she makes a big deal about the money she gives out to charity is when she is promoting something or is about to do so. This time she came out of her vacation getaway to meet with Sanz, Juanes and Ricky Martin because there were too many people upset that she didn't make the time to go to that peace concert.

And no, MitchAlvarez, you are not the only Colombian who doesn't like Shakira. I used to love her and as soon as she started focusing so much on going "global" and pretty much leaving her roots behind, I started caring less and less for this fool.

Diana

Rikito says on Apr 22, 2008, 08:57:

Ok, I'mwrong about where she was. I only read it in the papaers. But again, so what? Why do you rag on her and not some of the the other Colombian non-contributors? Is she supposed to go to every event for this or that? Hell no...you don't. Were you all at the concert? How much did you contribute last year to anyone? And should we care.

I still stand by the fact they she gives more than her fair share to those who are less fortunate.

Shakira is the founder of the Foundation Latin America for Solidarity Foundation,who recently gave $45 Million for Charity Forty million to Nicaragua and Peru to address recent natural disasters there, and an additional $5 million will go to educational projects benefiting children across Latin America.

Shakira also founded the Fundacion Pies Descalzos (Bare Feet Foundation). It is a Colombian charity with special schools for poor children all around Colombia. It was funded by Shakira and other international groups and individuals. I wonder how much Juanes and other Colombian artists donate?

Shakira is also a UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador and is one of their global representatives

It is known that Shakira donates approximately US$55,000 to charity yearly. Not to bad in my book.

As I read it...Shakira is more than a singer, composer,writer, collaborator, etc. She is a very proud Colombain who has gone the extra mile and contributes money that she does not need to help the less fortunate. She not only gives money, but she has donated her time as well. Again, I ask you what has Juanes done other than screw around on his wife.

I think you guys are jealous of her sucess. So what if she is global in her craft. And just how has she left her roots behind. Everytime I have seen her win an award she always acknowledges Colombia and its people.

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 09:02:

jealous? pobre gueva ome jajaj

traquilo papa no se me acelere.

dwr says on Apr 22, 2008, 09:30:

Rikito. Are you really Shakira? If so, just want you to know that I think the boob job turned out fantastic!!!!

sloopskipper says on Apr 22, 2008, 09:46:

Rikito says on Tuesday April 22nd, 2008 8:57:

"It is known that Shakira donates approximately US$55,000 to charity yearly. Not to bad in my book."

Aren't you little light on the zeros?

It seems that some people would criticize Mother Theresa and question her motives.

Simon says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:36:

Independent.co.uk

In a political fix? Call Shakira!


His poll ratings are tumbling, his MPs rebelling - but Gordon Brown found time last night to engage in telephone diplomacy with Colombia's best-known singer. Jonathan Brown reports on a star that every politician wants to be associated with

Tuesday, 22 April 2008


There was a defining moment in the life of Shakira Isabel Mebarak Ripoll, one which both her army of devoted fans and her impressive publicity machine agree indicated that the world had a huge star on its hands.


Aged just seven, Shakira was accompanying her family to a Middle Eastern restaurant in her home town – the steamy Colombian port city of Barranquilla. As the Arabic drums started to pulse and the restaurant's in-house belly dancers took to the stage, up leapt the little girl, overtaken by a "natural instinct", she later recalled, "to move my hips and twirl my belly to the sound of the doumbek. I fell in love with the sensation of being on stage."

It was the kind of extravagant, spontaneous gesture of which, his critics say, Gordon Brown is famously incapable. At the same age, growing up in the chilly climes of the Fife town of Kirkcaldy on the Firth of Forth, the future British prime minister would have been spending his days swotting at school, playing rugby and listening to his father's sermons.

Last night, however, these two lives – the dour world of the son of the manse turned career politician, and the decidedly more exotic one of the sultry Latin singer-dancer – came together in a phone call to discuss the plight of the world's poorest children's education. Along with the president of the World Bank, Robert Zoellick, the unlikely pairing is calling on the world's governments to provide basic schooling for the 300 million young people currently missing out on any kind of formal lessons.

Today, Shakira, now 31, will be banging the drum once more, this time in Washington DC where she will be joined by congressional politicians and students from across the country seeking to raise awareness for the bipartisan Education For All Act passed last year, which calls on President George Bush to address the challenge of providing children across the globe with access to equal education.

Mr Brown, despite his professed preference for policy substance over presentation, has become increasingly aware of the stardust that celebrities can sprinkle over subjects often considered too worthy or dull to penetrate the consciousness of the general public. In recent months and years he has bonded with Bono over African debt, discussed Darfur with George Clooney (the man his wife, Sarah, would choose to play him in a film of his life) while talking breast cancer recovery with Kylie Mingoue.

But in Shakira, Mr Brown is hitching his wagon to someone who shares not only his famous sense of moral purpose and extraordinary workrate – she regularly notches up 40,000 air miles a month and can talk her way through 40 interviews a day, rarely touching on the same subject twice – but also embodies the Prime Minister's admiration for allowing talent to flourish.

Those who write off Shakira as some kind of Hispanic Britney Spears are very much mistaken, according to Phil Stanton, a co-founder of the World Music Network and an authority on Colombian music. "There is a real musical intelligence in her work. She has some very good ideas and a real musical brain. She has been a recording artist for many years. She started out as a child star and has been building up her career ever since, becoming a phenomenon in Latin America and the Spanish-speaking world. She is incredibly professional. When the moment came she was absolutely ready for it," he says.

Today Shakira, one of nine children of a Lebanese businessman who moved to Colombia, is worth about $38m, making her the world's fourth highest grossing female singer, according to Forbes magazine, after Madonna, Barbra Streisand and Celine Dion. She is also the biggest-selling Spanish singer of all time, feted by politicians and fans alike and one who enjoys a unique popularity among the children of the world, particularly young girls in her native continent.

But her success was anything but overnight. Following the evening in the restaurant her career struggled to get off the ground. She was turned down for the choir at her convent school by nuns who feared her precocious vibrato made her sound "like a goat" though it seems they encouraged her love of belly dancing, deeming it cultural rather than profane.

After having successfully ambushed a record company executive in the lobby of a motel on Barranquilla she signed a three album deal. But the first two albums bombed.

By 15 she had left school and was living in Bogota, appearing in downmarket soap operas. She found herself at the centre of attention for hardly the best of artistic reasons, topping a magazine poll for possessing the finest bottom on television.

Breakthrough came with her third album, Pies Descalzos (Bare Feet), which sold four million albums across Latin America. But at that time no one singing in Spanish could lay claim to universal stardom, not least because the holy grail of the United States marketplace simply refused to yield to singers offering a non-English vocal.

The answer was to record an album in English and Spanish – Servicio De Lavanderia, or Laundry Service. Critics claimed and continue to suggest that her work in English, learnt it is said from rhyming dictionaries and the poetry of Leonard Cohen, still appears brittle and weak alongside that of her native tongue. But this did not prevent her signing with the impresario Freddy DeMann, who helped launch the careers of Michael Jackson, Madonna and Alanis Morissette.

The dual-language, follow-up albums, Oral Fixation Volumes 1 and 2 (Fijacion Oral), which she promoted with a vast world tour, earned her a clutch of Grammys and MTV Awards.

Despite having quit her native Colombia for the more genteel comforts of Miami's Key Biscayne, in the heartland of her American fan base, she remains a hero in her homeland. "Colombians are tremendously nationalistic and look up to any of their national figures if they are successful. Of course some people may disapprove of her but the vast majority are 100 per cent behind her," explained Mr Stanton.

One rather unexpected admirer is Colombia's foremost literary talent, Gabriel Garcia Marquez. The Nobel laureate was deeply enamoured with the young singer and was in no doubt she was a gift to mankind. "With the face of a perfect young girl, and her deceptive frailty, she always had the absolute certainty she would be a public personality of world renown. She did not know in what art or in what manner, but she did not have a shadow of doubt, as if she were condemned to a prophecy," the writer opined in one lavish profile.

National solidarity brought the two together again last year when Shakira was personally asked by Marquez to compose music for the film adaptation of Love in the Time of Cholera. Shakira was invited to appear in it but turned down the role after finding out that it involved nudity.

Her music, however, has been welcomed for incorporating wider aspects of Colombia's cultural heritage, notably referencing the instruments of the country's indigenous populations. One track, "Despedida", was nominated for a Golden Globe.

Shakira has also drawn praise for helping dispel the country's violent image. "When people write about Colombia there is a knee-jerk reaction to talk about drugs and violence," says Mr Stanton. "But Bogota is transforming and is now a relatively peaceful city and the economy is improving. There is a lot of violence that goes on but it is mainly between those who are involved in illegal things." It is a state of affairs that has not inspired any great wave of musical protest. "Some artists are tackling political themes but the music is generally about having a good time though sometimes they play with lyrics that have more than one meaning," Mr Stanton adds.

But the singer is no stranger to the Latin American political process in all its volatility. Though she was romantically linked with the Irish actor Colin Farrell, her regular squeeze since 2000 has been Antonio de la Rua, the son of the former Argentinian president Fernando de la Rua. De la Rua Snr was forced from office by huge demonstrations at the height of the country's financial crisis in 2001, when rioters called on his famous prospective daughter-in-law to help pay off the national debt. The former president was accused last year by a federal judge of failing to prevent the killing of five protesters during the riots, raising the prospect of a highly embarrassing trial which could coincide with the widely anticipated wedding of his son and the star.

But the incident seems to have done little to tarnish the Shakira brand. Her own charity, the Pies Descalzos Foundation, has been raising money for Colombia's poorest children since 1997, and she has performed in London for the Prince's Trust, at the Paris leg of the Live 8 concert and in Germany for last year's Live Earth environmental extravaganza. And as a Unicef goodwill ambassador she has visited Bangladesh and El Salvador to campaign for children hit by a recent cyclone and whose lives are blighted by violence.

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 22, 2008, 22:25:

I think Shakira is wonderful!, I am very proud when I say Shakira is from my country. She makes us look good.
SO she did not go to the frontera concert. That concert was organize in just few days, can you imagine how busy she is?!, she is not GOD to be everywhere!.

Give her credit, I don`t like some of her music, when she screams too loud, but I think she is a wonderful performer!

I like Shakira and and I like Juanes! Es un honor que tiene Colombia!!!

Mononoke28 says on Apr 23, 2008, 09:15:

Well, trust me I give out my fair share to charity.

BUT the problem I have with her is not wether she contributes or not, is that she USES that to get all the camera attention and next thing you see "Shakira has a new album coming out!" or "Shakira has this song with so and so" or "Shakira wrote the songs to x soundtrack" but she did give .000010% of sales to charity. Gee, I didn't see that coming. =|

And no, I don't think that giving out $55k a year is enough based on her yearly sales. $38 million was it? Yeah, that's not even 1%. But I guess it's more than what Britney Spears donates.

Diana

sloopskipper says on Apr 23, 2008, 09:49:

Surely the charities would suffer much more than her career if she did not participate, and it's doubful that she needs the publicity, or that it sells a lot of CDs.

I think that you will find that $55K figure is grossly understated.

Monpirri says on Apr 23, 2008, 09:57:

Mononoke28, you seen to be out synch with Colombia and Shakira.
Shakira does not do what you think she does! She is very popular in the states, europe and in latin america and other parts of the world. Her fame does not have to do with anything about her foundation (s)

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Man Tequila says on Apr 23, 2008, 10:01:

If I was Colombian, and became wealthy, and put money and effort into local charity work... I hope it would receive a better reaction than sour griping. It seems to me there are a lot of wealthy Colombians who give nothing and don't even have kind words or a smile for the unfortunate.

Shakira is a self-promoter? You don't care for her songs? So what?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

sloopskipper says on Apr 23, 2008, 10:05:

Right on, MT! I think this little girl is to be admired, EVEN if she didn't put one personal penny into these projects.

Lisa Zee says on Apr 23, 2008, 10:08:

How many artist make money and just keep it, we should be very happy and proud she even give a dollar!
Gratitude, gratitude!!!!!

I am very proud of her!.

sloopskipper says on Apr 23, 2008, 10:08:

Probably most of the prople who would buy her music are not the ones who would be impressed by her charity work, so what would be the financial benefit to her?

Mononoke28 says on Apr 23, 2008, 10:41:

You understimate the power of publicity, good or bad, small or gigantic.

Diana

MaFe says on Apr 23, 2008, 11:44:

MitchAlvarez says on Tuesday April 22nd, 2008 7:26:

I think im the only colombian who doesnt like shakira.


No Mitch, you are not alone..I don't like her...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

Robert Jorge says on Apr 24, 2008, 01:27:

I am not a Shakira fan at all. I think her voice, frankly, sucks. I have heard tapes of her singing live, and it was embarrassing. But, I don't think she is trying to self promote through publicity from charity affiliation at all. I think she is a great woman, I think she really cares about people; I think she does what she can to help out a little; I think most of the time she tries to blend in and stay anonymous; and I think she is a terrible singer. She sure does look good though.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 24, 2008, 09:35:

up you go

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docwilliam says on Apr 24, 2008, 11:31:

Why did they introduce her as "Colombian Borne"? Is she not a Colombian now? Was she raised in the U.S. or England?

"There's no time to panic"

sloopskipper says on Apr 24, 2008, 14:02:

To listen to her English, maybe the UK?

Monpirri says on Apr 24, 2008, 16:25:

Basically Colombians who are voltiarepas do not like anything about Colombia!
They do not like Garcia Marquez, they do not like Shakira, they do not like Colombian music but they love the music from the other country, they do not like the food in Colombia but they love and kill for food from the other country and even more alarming they find every single thing about Colombia inferior to the rest of whatever or wherever they grew up.
They are here on pbh just to make more friends because they are running for the Most Popular Dudette or Dude.
This anti Colombian sentiment is very popular in co.blog where they have managed to brainwashed the majority of the members to be against most of the Colombian Icons, you know they have the ‘new' Columbia attitude.


MAC

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MaFe says on Apr 24, 2008, 16:32:

Monpirri...I don't agree. I love Cumbias, Vallenatos...todo Colombia. Just because I am Colombian doesn't mean I have to love everything and everyone from Colombia!
I don't like Shakira because I can't stand how she sounds in English. I liked her when she started in colombia. I love so much of Colombia, and I am sure that people who don't like her aren't "voltiarepas!

I own every novel ever made by garcia marquez in Spanish, my uncle gave me his entire collection which I read in Spanish. I own the Colombian Constitution in Spanish and have read it...so because I don't like some Colombians I am not Colombian?

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

Monpirri says on Apr 24, 2008, 16:34:

MaFe, too fast to post your answer, you were they least person I was talking to because I have seen your post. They are very interesting!!!

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webmanco says on Apr 24, 2008, 16:41:

Who is Shakira?

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Monpirri says on Apr 24, 2008, 16:44:

A Colombian who does not deserve any musical credit because she become famous outside of Colombia and now she helps Colombia and other friendly countries.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 24, 2008, 16:49:

Im not disputing shakiras musical talents. But all i am saying im not really of fan of her music. Thats it.

Plus I think Juanes outshines her by far.

MaFe says on Apr 24, 2008, 16:52:

"MitchAlvarez says on Thursday April 24th, 2008 16:49:

Im not disputing shakiras musical talents. But all i am saying im not really of fan of her music. Thats it.

Plus I think Juanes outshines her by far."

Me too Mitch! I also like the fact that Juanes is loves by so many around the world and still sings in his Spanish...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

webmanco says on Apr 24, 2008, 17:08:

I do admire Juanes for signing only in Spanish, but I would not say one is better than the other. Both are colombians and do a great job.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Monpirri says on Apr 24, 2008, 19:25:

Good point! I admire anyone male or female who sings in more than one language!!!

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sloopskipper says on Apr 27, 2008, 17:39:

MaFe says on Thursday April 24th, 2008 16:32:

"Monpirri...I don't agree. I love Cumbias, Vallenatos...todo Colombia. Just because I am Colombian doesn't mean I have to love everything and everyone from Colombia!
I don't like Shakira because I can't stand how she sounds in English. I liked her when she started in colombia. I love so much of Colombia, and I am sure that people who don't like her aren't "voltiarepas!

I own every novel ever made by garcia marquez in Spanish, my uncle gave me his entire collection which I read in Spanish. I own the Colombian Constitution in Spanish and have read it...so because I don't like some Colombians I am not Colombian?"

I saw your post elsewhere about the same video (which I recorded from SONY, Bogotá), and was somewhat different. Something about her charity work, maybe?

MaFe says on Apr 27, 2008, 18:20:

hmmm not sure sloopskipper.
maybe this?

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/npr-juanes-2006/

MaFe says on Saturday April 5th, 2008 19:43: edit

I actually liked and admired the Shakira before she started to sing in English and hit the gringo market...sorry but her singing in English, I don't like...Her singing in Spanish was powerful...

Juanes...I admire his not wanting to sing in English...I believe he does it because;
-he is a proud Colombiano who enjoys singing in Spanish because he knows- he will have the world wide audience...
-he isn't trying to impress anyone...


??

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

slguy says on Apr 27, 2008, 20:00:

bad news for the good guys. crossing over languages by performers has never been about abandoning roots - it's about access to the biggest (by far!) music marrket on the planet. even setting aside economics, what artist doesn't want the biggest audience possible?

my guess about juanes? he'll either eventually produce an english album - or like me, he's linguistically challenged. ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Monpirri says on Apr 27, 2008, 20:10:

Shakira - Hips Don' Lie World Cup Video

Shakira rocks!!!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

MaFe says on Apr 27, 2008, 20:23:

SL..I think he is comfortable with Spanish and if he crosses over; good for him.
I just can't stand the way Shakira sings in English....peronal taste...nothing to do with Colombian pride..

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

Lcacique says on Apr 27, 2008, 21:47:

I don't care for her english stuff either, but her voice live is far from embarrassing. Listen to her unplugged performance. Personally, I thought it was pretty strong. Spanish or english she is not my favorite, but it is obvious that the girl is talented. Especially when you throw her up against her peers.

Juanes...uh, no offense but lately his most recent releases bore me. I shouldn't say that...Mi Sangre bored me. I thought it was way below what he is capable of. Fíjate Bien was my fave, followed by Un Día Normal.

Regardless, I love seeing them both do well. And as human beings, they seem pretty cool.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 28, 2008, 00:35:

Para mi Shakira or Juanes ni me van ni me vienen.. some of their songs are ok some rubbish just like any other artist.in the world.

engage brain before opening mouth

Cerealkiller says on Apr 28, 2008, 05:17:

I agree Kat1, not my cup of tea either, there are plenty of other Colombians making better music. However, I think its pretty cool that they take time out of their schedules to get involved in humanitarian causes. Even if its just a PR stunt, chances are the sort of things they see out there will keep them with their feet on the ground.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

Man Tequila says on Apr 28, 2008, 11:40:

I think Juanes is okay, his more recent stuff pales slightly. But I respect the man and his commitment. The PR component is de rigeur for a celebrity, even if they wanted to be lower key their publicists would poo-poo it.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

Robert Jorge says on Apr 29, 2008, 01:10:

Lcac - I couldn't find any examples of what I consider "embarrassing" on Youtube ... in the 3 minutes I looked for an example. But trust me, I have heard some TERRIBLE taped live performances by Shakira. The videos I saw on page one of a Youtube "Shakira Berlin" search yielded pretty good performances. But I have heard her sing so out of key it was painful. I guess everybody has their good days and bad days. And I will never be as good as she is on one of her bad days.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy