Shakira unplugged

timeforachangeofscenery says on Aug 27, 2007, 05:44:

Dude, that's the saddest story I've ever heard.

I had a similar experience while watching Mick Jagger - it was just HORRIBLE.

I had to wait for a whole ten seconds before the guys holding the GUN TO MY HEAD looked away just long enough for me to change the channel.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 27, 2007, 06:12:

The world is filled with spectacularly successful pop and rock acts that can't sing. Goat Girl is no different than Madonna or the Rolling Stones. If you can't sing - your stage show, tight pants, big hair, boobs, nostalgia, and sometimes even your music (sans voice) will get you through. Haha.

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LA_MONA says on Aug 27, 2007, 06:17:

I was sure Shakira could sing? Maybe all the jumping around affected her voice? Try singing while writhing around like that..give her a break...

I heard Cristina Aguilera sing once live, no music, wow! what a voice.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Aug 27, 2007, 06:24:

I like most of Shakira's music but regret buying her last two albums. I think she's a little like Madonna - in a narrow range, her voice is fine - but she pushes it and then sounds terrible. The bleating/Goat Girl thing is not something I thought up, but it's certainly evident in some of her songs.

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LA_MONA says on Aug 27, 2007, 06:28:

Well I remember when her album came out, Pies Descalzos, my friends and I thought it was so cool, loved the lyrics and style of her singing as both were original but her style has changed very much since then and she has "sexified" herself, which she does very well but I think I liked the original songs and Shakira better.

I still do like her songs now but sometimes I think she focuses too much on her Lebanese side, like when she did Hips Don't Lie there were cumbia dancer's in the video but then in the concerts she would come out with belly dancer's..

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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gringolondinense says on Aug 27, 2007, 06:34:

thats it!! it was a goatish sort of singing. I think coz it was all unplugged, she changed her style to that of a goat. Basically it was just weird..she didnt sing any of her normal stuff.

Oh yer mona, she did that belly dance thing and put on the gold wrap around thing with tassels,,,,whatever its called. But its another excuse to do more ass shaking lol. Not that I object to that of course.

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timeforachangeofscenery says on Aug 27, 2007, 08:01:

Has anybody here ever actually sat down and watched MTV ????

The crap that passes for MUSIC these days is nothing more than soft porn with a beat. The reason musical artists have taken this route is that music is now all about economics and sex sells.

The demographic of horny, testosterone driven, adolescent men with credit cards is now the number one target market in the world and Shakira knows it.

It's not that she's not as gifted as she once was. She's just taken a executive decision to shift the focus away from her singing and towards baring her more lucrative assets.

I for one don't watch music videos anymore.

Timefor.

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houstongal says on Aug 27, 2007, 08:51:

Shakira has the goat voice and I always thought Stevie Nicks had the sheep voice. Imagine those two together!

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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Miguel says on Aug 27, 2007, 09:29:

"Shakira has the goat voice and I always thought Stevie Nicks had the sheep voice. Imagine those two together!"

Stevie has frequently been called "Goatwoman" in the US music industry.

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Robert Jorge says on Aug 27, 2007, 10:32:

They belly dance in Lebanon?

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Miguel says on Aug 27, 2007, 10:40:

"They belly dance in Lebanon?"

I hope to hell you are being sarcastic.

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Miamigo says on Aug 27, 2007, 11:01:

I like the DVD that came out back in 2004, Live and off the record, lots of nice eye candy and the music is pretty good. Her band rocks and so does she. She plays the freaking drums, too.

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Robert Jorge says on Aug 27, 2007, 11:09:

Yes Miguel, I was. I saw Klinger in M.A.S.H. belly dance on one episode. He was a well known for being Lebanese.

Sorry, just my poor attempt at humor.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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gabolicious says on Aug 27, 2007, 11:11:

" I think she's a little like Madonna " .... blame Freddy Demann (sp) formerly Madonna's manager....

LOL

Elección no canonización....

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Lucas Freley says on Aug 27, 2007, 11:57:

gringolindinense, as far a I know, the only MTV unplugged that Shaki did was in August 12, 1999, when she was 22 years old. And there isn't any info about a new second MTV unplugged.
If you are talking about that concert, well...I disagree with you. That concert was excellent. She song all the songs from Donde estan los ladrones, and one from Pies Descalzos. (Estoy aqui). Precisely, this were the best two albums from her. Incluso en esa época su voz era mucho mas linda que ahora. Y sus canciones tambien eran mejores.

Last week I tried to listen to the concert of The Police...it was pathetic. Lamentable. ¿Los viste?

Hoy que estás esplendida y que todo lo iluminas, demos un paseo, vuelta por el Universo (Gustavo Cerati)

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Lucas Freley says on Aug 27, 2007, 12:00:

Some picks from the unplugged

Hoy que estás esplendida y que todo lo iluminas, demos un paseo, vuelta por el Universo (Gustavo Cerati)

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houstongal says on Aug 27, 2007, 12:36:

Lucas - I saw the Police in concert this year in Houston and I thought they were fantastic! Much better than I would've imagined. I've talked to others who have seen them in concert in other locations and they concur.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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Lucas Freley says on Aug 27, 2007, 16:10:

Houstongal, gracias por tu opinion. Pero la verdad, lo que yo vi dejó mucho que desear. Pero fijate que Stewart Copeland (The Drummer) critica a su propio grupo en su pagina web diciendo que Sting es un petulante que lo unico que hace bien es saltar. Y sobre Summers lo que dijo fue que no sabia adonde habia estado durante el concierto. El propio Copeland tambien se critica diciendo que estaba totalmente fuera de ritmo y de tiempo. Me da rabia ver como destrozan canciones como Regatta de Blanc, Message in a bottle, Sincronicity, Don't stand so close to me.

El Police de 80's fue lejos la mejor banda Pop que haya existido en el mundo. Pero esta nueva (vieja) version de la banda es muy mala. Suenan muy mal. Sting ya no tiene voz. Copeland va a destiempo. Summers se olvidó de como eran sus geniales solos de guitarra. Y las canciones no parecen las mismas. Pretender a los 60 años ser los mismos que a los 30...es tan ridiculo como pretender que Shakira cante Opera.

Ellos van a tocar en Noviembre en Buenos Aires...desde ya no pienso ir. Prefiero acordarme de los buenos tiempos de Police, cuando eran The Police.

Si a vos te gustó, me parece genial. Creo que probablemente no escuchaste como sonaban en los 80's, porque enseguida te darias cuenta de la diferencia abismal que existe.

Lo mejor es que leas lo que Copelando escribió en su pagina vos misma:
http://www.stewartcopeland.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2809

Hoy que estás esplendida y que todo lo iluminas, demos un paseo, vuelta por el Universo (Gustavo Cerati)

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goin_south says on Aug 27, 2007, 16:57:

from all I have seen (heardddd)... Shakira can be/is....
very, very good....or just plain bad, sometimes.

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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gabolicious says on Aug 27, 2007, 18:58:

doesn't matter SHE IS HOT!!!!


=D

Elección no canonización....

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houstongal says on Aug 27, 2007, 20:40:

Lucas, to me a band should not be the same as they were 25 years ago. I do not expect their songs to sound exactly the same and I appreciate improvements that they make to their classics. Yes, Message in a Bottle has a very different and slower arrangement than the original. I like them both. Yes, Sting is arrogant, but you know he was much less arrogant that I would've expected (now Darryl Hall from Hall & Oates is really arrogant). He could've taken the stage and turned it into the Sting with members of the Police, but he didn't. IMHO, all 3 shined on stage. Granted, we were about 15 rows up to the right of the stage so we had great seats, which I think helps you connect to the performance more than if you were sitting in the back of the arena.

I'm old enough to remember the Police from the 80's (I'm in my 40's) although I never saw them in concert back then. It was a treat to see them perform together again live and I'd see them again if given another opportunity.

And yes, Gabo, I would agree that Shakira is hot. I still think that video she did with Beyonce (the Houston girl) is terrific. Two gorgeous women.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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goin_south says on Aug 27, 2007, 22:46:

yeah, yeah....gabo. and sometimes, SHE'S NOT :(

(H.D.L.??? WHITE HOT!!)

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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gringolondinense says on Aug 28, 2007, 01:26:

wow I never new she was part Lebanese..nice combination though. I think Salma Hyek is also part Lebanese too!!...YUMMY!

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john_stark says on Aug 28, 2007, 06:30:

MTV shows music videos? When did that happen? I haven't seen a music video on MTV in at least 10 years. IMF does show music videos nonstop. They have a program called "Passage to India" that shows music videos from India with some smoking hot babes! Damm, they're bootylicious.

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Miguel says on Aug 28, 2007, 08:59:

"MTV shows music videos"...jajaja john_utopia...reminds me of that song "1985"

I am down with you on IMF

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Lucas Freley says on Aug 28, 2007, 14:06:

Houstongal, me alegro q la hayas pasado bien y hayas disfrutado del show. Para mi Police fue la MEJOR banda Pop de todos los tiempos (tal vez junto a Pink Floyd, y un escalon abajo U2). Yo era chico en los 80's, pero a lo largo de los años vi miles de conciertos, videos, shows (claro por television), y cuando los vi ahora ya viejos...me decepcionaron mucho.

Sting me parece un genio. Me encanta su música, su estilo. Siempre lo admiré por tocar el bajo y cantar tan bien al mismo tiempo. Pero bueno...los años pasan para todos. Y su voz ya no es la de hace 20 años. Sobre si es arrogante...lo dijo el propio Copeland en su sitio web. ¿Lo leíste? Te puse el link en mi otro post. Está bueno porque podes hablar con Copeland. Y darle tu opinión sobre el concierto. El fue muy crítico no solo con Sting, sino con él mismo, y con Summers. Y yo pienso como él. Estoy totalmente de acuerdo en lo que dijo.

Hall & Outes...otra de mis bandas favoritas de los 80's. No sabia que Daryl Hall era un creído. Me encantan Out of touch y Method of modern love. Tengo una enorme colección de grupos pops de 80's. Y por eso verlos ahora de viejos no me gusta. El año pasado vi a Madness...mejor ni te digo como fue. Y hace dos años vi a Simple Minds...triste...Si me gustó Duran Duran y New Order. Esos salieron bien. Claro U2 fue excelente también. Y Roger Waters increible.

Hoy que estás esplendida y que todo lo iluminas, demos un paseo, vuelta por el Universo (Gustavo Cerati)

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houstongal says on Aug 28, 2007, 14:51:

Lucas, rather than hijacking this thread I'll send you a PM.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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