Sex Mongers in Medellin

Miguel says on Jul 18, 2006, 09:01:

...bueno, listo... Tengo mí crespita y mí cuba libre y estoy listo a leer lo que ustedes van a comentarán.

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arthur brode (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 18, 2006, 09:11:

toneloc24 says on Jul 18, 2006, 09:35:

Miguel Estoy de acuerdo. Pasame las crispetas!!! En este momento no puedo tomar las aguilas mas frias.

"PBH is dead!!!!"

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Miguel says on Jul 18, 2006, 09:58:

Oye tone... Viva Orville Redenbacher y Viejo de Caldas. This thread has the potential to be bienchevere. Incoming, Skippy!!!

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Tom says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:23:

Skippy you are right Skippy ! I feel very sad to see how some f..kn Gringos tread the girls in Medellin, I could thro up anytime I see that two old guys sitting at Ave Maria with young girls which could be there grand daughter and feeling proud like hell,
just look at your self guys how funny and stupid you look like when slapping a young women on there ass and giving here a tip of a few peso.
the beauty of Medellin is going down because some gringos think Colombia is an sex tourist county, go back to TJ Mexico or to Thailand where you been before !
by the way if I catch that gringo guy who grab my wife on her boobs last Saturday at Lleras........watch out



hasta la visa

hasta la vista

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elmodefoque says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:25:

Skippy, Skippy, Skippy, why the hell would anyone gotto Colombia if not for sex. I know I’m not alone, but my number one reason for vacationing in Colombia is to get laid, drunk and high. Just like I gotto Miami for just one reason, and that’s to go fishing. Do you think I gotto miami to enjoy the company of all those Cubanos habla mierda?
Listen, as long as I have a fist full of dollars I know I will be considered “encantador” in Colombia. I know that I could also go to Dominican Republic, Thailand, Peru, and other places and get the same attention, but women in Colombia are far more attractive, in my book. When you get old, and you’ll find out one day, women get disgusted by your mere presence and it happens to me a lot here in USA but when I gotto Colombia I’m no longer ese viejo canoso jediondo a mierda, as a matter of fact, I’m told that I’m quite handsome, charming mature modefoque and even have 19 year olds following me around, at least the ones that are not scared of me. For some odd reason, I tend to frighten them off.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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alexis33015 says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:34:

scum buckets,(putting them nicely)
Some people thats the only way to get laid
its humiliating and sad

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alexis33015 says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:36:

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alexis33015 says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:37:

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elmodefoque says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:42:

scum buckets??what are old scum buckets??
what are old modefoques suppose to do, take up knitting?
I don't like to pay for it, but most of us aint got no choice and if i don't put this thing to good use beside peeing, i'm gonna blow his head right off with a shotgun.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:48:

knitting would be a good choice or maybe they could sit in Parque lleras and play dominos like the old Cubans do in Miami....

Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:50:

Read about Pablo Escobar I don't think gringos really invented the sex industry in Medellin, as attractive as it is to blame us.

Rich older men have been screwing hot young Paisas for generations now. the only difference now is that some of those men are foreigners who are no longer afraid to go there.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:51:

desi, i'm sorry but i never learned how to play dominos. I played checkers a couple times.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:52:

well, elmo maybe it's not too late for you.

Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:55:

of all the games out there, i think i like playing hide the salami best.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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alexis33015 says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:57:

play dominos now were talking about lil havana cubans
what happen?

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:57:

The old Cubans in Miami I think the old Cubans in Miami are only playing dominos to earn enough money to get back to the casa de chicas.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2006, 10:58:

since your salami-hiding days are just about over you could start learning new skills like playing dominos or knitting. Embroidery is also a lot of fun, as long as your fingers and eyes work.

Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jul 18, 2006, 11:03:

h -

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 18, 2006, 11:04:

hugh hefner still playing hide the salami with three young hot blondes and that guy is over 80. heck! the way i figure i got over 30 years to go before i blast this very wrinkled dark chocolate colored thing hanging between my legs right off.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2006, 11:57:

oh I'm sure you do elmo dear, I was just kidding! If Hugh Hefner can do it, why shouldn't you? Just remember, there'll always be dominos.

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jul 18, 2006, 12:36:

desi, but dominos seems like a real spic game. how about "trivia persuit" instead? i used to play that a lot.
i'm out!

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Peter Miami says on Jul 18, 2006, 12:54:

Not everyone in Miami plays Dominos.

Peter Miami

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Peter Miami says on Jul 18, 2006, 12:57:

We shot each other, we do We shoot each other, we do drugs a lot of drugs specially Cocaine. There is crime, prostitution, drug trade, white color crime, all that good stuff and much, much more.

Peter Miami

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2006, 13:15:

oh I'm sure You get to do all those fun things Peter Miami. I was just trying to help por old Elmo to find a more dignified occupation in his years of decline than lusting for young hotties. He mentioned knitting...

Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2006, 13:29:

lol, I agree Desi, for every bad thought, one stich, I am sure by christmas he will have made a nice sweater or two ;).

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 18, 2006, 13:36:

yes, kat LOL Should we be expecting a nice sweater each as a Christmas present, with a naughty thought in every stich? As a sign of his appreciation for our help?

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 18, 2006, 14:49:

Open your eyes, Skippy... its not about gringos in Colombia, ...its about people who have money versus people who do not have money but who want money.....People from each category come from all countries and etnic backgrounds, and the the people with less money but who want money are usually from countries with shitty economies.....to blame "gringos" for the "sex trade industry" anywhere is just plain naive and stupid. Or your statements are based on the fact that a white person sticks out and is more noticeable in public in a latin country, which would make you mistakenly believe that it is the gringos that are responsible for the sexual activity or sex trade industry in Colombia?

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Lauthra says on Jul 18, 2006, 14:58:

I just wanna say, that even though this of which Skippy talks is despicable, but it takes two to tango. So if the woman is after money and the bloke after sex, it's a match made in heaven. Just ask Calipro.
Nato

(='.'=)

Nato (='.'=)

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 18, 2006, 15:20:

Muerte para los gringos.
Muerte para los gringos.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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el norteño says on Jul 18, 2006, 17:17:

Oh My Lord.
Older men paying Oh My Lord.
Older men paying young women for sex in Medellin , Colombia!

I'm outraged! Outraged, I tell you.

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MedellinViking says on Jul 18, 2006, 17:58:

Gringos are fighting for their 1% I cannot figure out if Skippy and others main problem is the age difference in the couple. Look around, there are a vast majority of women dating older men here. It really seems to be a minor issue here. Possibly the problem is prostitution in general. But I haven't seen any mention of a solution where this prostitute who is a single mom with 2 children to feed can get another job that pays more than 1 million a month to survive on. Or is the problem that the gringos are promoting more prostitution? I would guess that about 99% of the paid sexual transactions are with Colombian men. I know that 99% of my clubs clients are Colombians and although it is a Swingers Club, (Cuchicheos in Medellin) many are with thier lover(s). I just get a bit pissed with the people that mouth off about sex for pleasure as being a bad thing. But I do have a solution for taking the heat off the sex trade. Cocaine vacations!!!! You know the client, they snort (or smoke or take it on the gums) about $1000 on the weekend. Hell they should buy a ticket here for $500 and snort themself into oblivion while infusing more money into the economy here. Don't just come here for the sex... when you can have sex and drugs! What do you all think of that?

Just everyone keep in mind:
The culture here is very promiscuous.
The Pros are doing whatever they can to feed their kids or pay rent etc.
Sex and love are 2 different things. Anyone that wants proof just email me for the url to my clubs webpage.

A small paraphrase from Jimi Hendrix:
When the Power of Lust (Love) overcomes the Lust (Love) of Power there will be Peace

Until then.....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

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cochopechocho says on Jul 18, 2006, 19:18:

Shocked and Stunned !! I was recently in Medellen and I was just stunned at what only 150,000 pesos would buy you in a nice club. It would cost you almost double that in Cali for the same quality of women.

Now taking into account the forces of supply and demand, there has to be a lot more hookers in Medellin or some many mongers in Cali that they are driving the price up.

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mcraig says on Jul 18, 2006, 21:36:

Dude there is a few things in life you shouldnt have to pay for put on a good looking suit or your best sunday clothes an go out
to a legitmate bar an pick a decent woman up. If you cant then do that well A. you need to practice your start up lines an then go at it again an again an again before you pay for that.
mcraig

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mcraig says on Jul 18, 2006, 21:38:

In Texas If someone was slapping a women around there would be some guy see it an come whip his ass. Its like a Texas code of honar atleast where I come from. Only wimps hit women !

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Gomezman5 says on Jul 19, 2006, 00:08:

mcraig...what an over simplification....far from reality Look guy, if you're in your mid 40s, 50s, or somewhere in that area, if you think a guy can walk into a bar with a few "start up" lines and walk out with a twenty year old hottie, you must be dreaming. When an older guy is looking to "associate" himself of a woman of that tender age, he isn't interested in conversing anyway. He is looking to get right down to "business", and is not looking to have a discussion on the subtle themes in a Marquez novel.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 19, 2006, 00:39:

uhmm El que las hace las imagina ;)

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Rubiazo says on Jul 19, 2006, 03:17:

I think he meant 'grabbing' their asses, not 'whipping' their asses. That may come later in the hotel room, and for all we know the GUY will be the receipient.

I have news for all you Einsteins on this board

READ IT AND WEEP
PROSTITUTION IS COMPLETELY 100% LEGAL IN COLOMBIA!

if you don't like it/can't deal with it GET THE HELL OUT OF THE COUNTRY OR DON'T GO THERE!
Personally I'm glad it is legal there. I'm so happy I'm dancing in the streets! If anybody deoesn't like it come to my place in the Bronx on Sunday for the asados I'm having. I'd love to get a chance to do up a nice crispy tender LECHON!

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elmodefoque says on Jul 19, 2006, 04:40:

I gotta agree 100% with G5, back when I was a young guy, just before they invented electricity, I could walk in a bar and have a dozen beautiful horny gringitas after my Injun ass, buying me drinks and trying to get me real drunk to later stick a finger up my ass. What the f-ck is up with that? why the finger up the azz? any gringas out there?
Anyways, now, I can’t even get the time of day. WTF is a guy to do? Simple! Pay for it!!!!
If I could have a girl just LIKE Lauthra, That's a big IF, for one month, I’ll give her half of what I got in my 401K plan, tax free. When guys reach their 40’s , 50’s and beyond we no longer think with the big head attached to our shoulder, we think with the little one between our legs.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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go2pr says on Jul 19, 2006, 04:58:

Skippy, what a silly diatribe ! "the beauty of country could be spoiled by sex-tourism"

Dude, i've never heard something more ridiculous. lol

The DOZENS THOUSANDS (or maybe hundreds thousands) whorehouses throughout Colombia, Venezuela, Peru or Brasil are filled daily at 99% by LOCALS. So a few hundreds or thousands of gringos are taking advantage of this immense sex industry. And what ?

As Rubazio says, if you can't deal with the fact that in South America, mongering is for locals a CULTURE (I'd even say THE national sport because football), you'd better go back to Utah or maybe live in Iran or Somalia.

How can a guy live in Colombia during one and half year without even BEGIN to understand the local habits ?

Give us a break son. There was already thousands of brothels in Colombia looooong before you were born.

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Greg444 says on Jul 19, 2006, 14:28:

I wonder if those gringos are the same millionaire gringos, from a year ago, still trying to find a girlfriend or maybe Pablo returned.
But those guys were not that old (40s), Skippy how old were these gringos?

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 19, 2006, 14:39:

oldbongo says on Jul 19, 2006, 14:44:

not old enough... what's the difference between this and the aguila girls?

according to those in culturally high places,...gabi.
the men shouldn't start this activity until they are
pushing ninety, and the girls twelve.
this works out for everyone.
soon, he's dead, and she has it made.
just ask mom.

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Miguel says on Jul 19, 2006, 15:02:

Damn! Tengo que salir para comprar más crispeta.

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mcraig says on Jul 19, 2006, 15:46:

Man it works an dont have a bad impresion of yourself Remember back in HS in college when you didnt care when some girl told you to haul ass well get back to that point. I have never cheated on wife an wont but I have put myself in alot of bad situations when I was in my early thirties. An it never changes man if you have good fun personality an you buy a few drinks for some hotty any guy can go into a decent bar an leave with a decent looking women. Girls want to have a good time it never changes they want to laugh with somebody , dance with somebody an your just coping out man. Your in your 40-50's an probaly make a decent living buy some drinks in a classy way start up a converstion after you send the drinks. Your not out dates when my grandfather was 64 maried a 34 year old ,my dad is 61 he just married for the third time to 36 year old girl . So you can do it as well. I never was into the real young things not even in high school or ever i always like the girls that where a little older than me you know I want a women that that was as dirty minded as me rather than some ditzy chick.

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mcraig says on Jul 19, 2006, 15:54:

doesnt it ever pop up in your mind when you pay for it that What ever little thing you do that might be a little better than the next guy , the lady you paid for has already seen. I mean you are paying to hook up with a chick that is just putting on a show for you because she has seen it all an it doesnt faze her. That would bother me a little.

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hunjb224 says on Jul 19, 2006, 19:36:

You can see them on the plane Everytime you get on a plane to Colombia, you can see the people going for business, the people going home, real tourists, and the sleazy old men who are traveling to get laid. I just hope that Colombia doesn't become another Brazil or Thailand, because this is one of the most beautiful and diverse countries in the world both culturally and geographically. The sex trade is everywhere, and it's hard to avoid, but when it becomes the number one tourist attraction then we have problems. A way to fight this is for workers rights and fair wages in Colombia.

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NeoPalindrome says on Jul 19, 2006, 20:03:

I disagree with hunjb224.
I I disagree with hunjb224.
I think the way to fight it is for women to give it up for free and not give me such a hard time.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 19, 2006, 21:29:

Why does so many people hate on the elderly? if you are lucky, you will be there soon enough too! What goes around, comes around!!! Age forgets noone! hahahahah....

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Rubiazo says on Jul 19, 2006, 21:43:

Exactly isn't it a tad offensive that you are expecting 70 year old men to just stop fucking just because of their age? That's really discriminatory and prejudicial. What do you expect them to do, find a freaking 70 year old whore? YOU try and find one! :P

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cochopechocho says on Jul 19, 2006, 22:07:

Rubiazo It has been my experiance that 70 year old women give it away for free! LOL !! Ooops :-(

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 19, 2006, 22:16:

Oh dear, I'm sure cochopecho is right. I'll have to ask at the local nursing home here...

Oh, the ladies said that there isn't any 70-year-olds around that are capable.

Some others said that they smell bad.

Then there was this lady who said that this might be business idea for the coming decade, but that certain inventions and innovations were needed.

Oh well, I've got to get back to work now. I'll continue my investigations later today....

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 20, 2006, 06:28:

MedellinViking says on Jul 20, 2006, 06:53:

Goes to show Desi... Sounds like the 70-year-old ladies you interviewed want an 18 year old just like the men do!

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 20, 2006, 10:02:

wrong, medellin These ladies were specific: a 68-year-old with some mileage left, healthy, some teeth of his own. They were very specific about the sphincter control and body odours. Also health seemed to be a bigger issue than their money: a regular government retirement pension will suffice.

They also seemed to know their own mind very well. It was nothing like PBH geezers.

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Rubiazo says on Jul 20, 2006, 10:23:

I don't think an 18 year old could keep up

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jctripp says on Jul 20, 2006, 12:39:

A Nice Massage I tested the waters in Medellín and was always respectful in how I handled myself. There are plenty of massage parlors downtown where you don't have to harrass girls on the street. You go in, you have a nice massage and you leave. Every one is happy. And it's entirely legal. The main thing is, be nice and don't act like a pig. Also, bring a nice gift like some perfume or a bracelet. That'll get you an extra nice massage. In my book this is perfectly fine and I noticed that most of the clientele were Colombianos, not gringos. We all need the same thing.

Think global, act loco

RiColombia.com | Colombia Culture & Tourism Blog

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 20, 2006, 14:43:

heres something to think about: i saw a news documentary last... week, and the main "thrust" (??) of the documentary was that there is an alarming increase in STD's among the elderly!!! And how "gramps" is very anti-condom!!! I tell you, the older folk are running amok!!!!!

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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toneloc24 says on Jul 20, 2006, 14:54:

at Desi You're referring to older European dudes and body odor? Say it ain't so. Figured you European ladies would be used to it by now. LOL!!!

What about those old Colombian dudes who have no second thoughts of letting the gas fly ANYWHERE? I'm not gay, but those old bastards make odors that make me quesy. I could only imagine a 68 yr old lady. I almost got ill a few weeks ago waiting in the Avianca line in Bogota.

"PBH is dead!!!!"

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 20, 2006, 16:43:

Question for Viking you alluded to the following;

"The culture here is very promiscuous."

does this mean more than most cities (here and abroad)? may i ask why this is in your opinion? you seem to know the mechanics behind the biz.........

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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miamimike says on Jul 20, 2006, 18:12:

Know what they say about those 70 yr old women "They don't tell, they don't swell and they're glad as Hell"!! Jee Jee

Avatar Legend: Bush "If any of you Reporters are wondering, it was a Size 10"

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adrimm (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 20, 2006, 22:01:

Miguel_Clavo says on Jul 20, 2006, 22:12:

Hate the game, not the player........as it is said....=) Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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MedellinViking says on Jul 21, 2006, 06:56:

"The culture here is very promiscuous." I may have been guilty of generalizing here by saying "the culture" as I do have a swingers club and my cross section of the population that I know is promicuous in an extreem way, but.....

It seems that everyone I know has some little bit of action on the side. The few odd hundreds of girls I know in the biz, plus the 90% that I dont know, have, and I'm guessing here, but I would say it is over a million clients collectively in a year. Then we have the women that are not in the biz.....

Then of course, I am only thinking about Medellin here.

So overall to me, in the 4 years I have been in Medellin, I have formed a opinion of a very promiscuous culture here.

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 21, 2006, 10:10:

this reminds me "So overall to me, in the 4 years I have been in Medellin, I have formed a opinion of a very promiscuous culture here." Medellin "viking"

of a very old story about Mahatma Gandhi's goat....

I have lived in Cali for a very long time (12 years) and visited the city often after that for several months at a time, the last time I was there was just this winter and I don't think Cali is a very promiscuous city. We probablu don't visit the same type of establishments...

Cheers,
Desi

(morphus maybe your girl has a kind of stamp on her that says that she likes sleezy gringos...it could be something in her look, the way she looks at them it doesn't have to be anything very obvious.)



Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 21, 2006, 11:36:

Ctg Bound says on Jul 21, 2006, 12:18:

mcraig You always pay for it, even you say that you have to buy a few drinks, who pays for the meal, who pay for the taxi etc etc, nearly always the guy occasionally a girl might put some money in, but guys are nearly always the one paying the bills.

I think only once in my life I haven´t paid for it, because I chatted a girl up just as a club was closing and she only lived a few blocks away, so there was no drinks or taxi to pay for, my lucky night.

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Boatygringo says on Jul 21, 2006, 14:48:

Sex Trade I look at this way I am adding to the economy of Colombia not hurting it and how can an old f--k like me get a 20 something in the USA . If it was leagal in the USA there would be fewer problems in the US. Boatygringo

Boatygringo

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Miguel says on Jul 21, 2006, 17:39:

Oye OP "Skippy" ¿El gato tiene su lengua?

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Rubiazo says on Jul 22, 2006, 00:09:

He probably expected the cheerleading section instead he got a whole bunch of opinions hahahaha!

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 22, 2006, 05:58:

tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 22, 2006, 07:33:

tejasmarcos says on Jul 22, 2006, 09:30:

Viking followup your statement of;

It seems that everyone I know has some little bit of action on the side. The few odd hundreds of girls I know in the biz, plus the 90% that I dont know, have, and I'm guessing here, but I would say it is over a million clients collectively in a year. Then we have the women that are not in the biz.....

can i assume that you are talking about just Medellin here when you mention knowing hundreds of girls in the biz? and of the 90% of the girls you don't know, are you inferring they have a clientele or some sort of multiple novio system that benefits them in a monetary way? so as i understand it, there are several hundred if not a few thousand women here in Medellin that are directly or indirectly gaining benefit from being promiscous? promiscuity for profit.

does that mean that there is a real high average of women 18-35 here in Medellin that are players or professionals? that average might be as high as 50%?

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Skippy says on Jul 22, 2006, 09:57:

Thanks to everyone who wrote down their thoughts. I really enjoyed reading your comments. I can see both sides of the coin.

A special thanks to the person who told me that my post was stupid and my comments ridiculous. Very constructive. It's no wonder people stop writing after only a couple of times.

I will continue to post because I love Colombia and i love talking about Colombia.

Yup

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Ctg Bound says on Jul 22, 2006, 10:49:

tejasmarcos Probably 50-75% of unmarried girls in Medellin are players for money, El Tiempo put the figure at 50%, but I believe that is an under estimate.

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 22, 2006, 11:25:

wow that is kinda staggering when you think about it. el tiempo did a story on the subject? i would love to get a link from that article. i'm starting to think i am too conservative for 50-75% of this town.

makes me a little nervous dating a bombshell colombiana. she catches quite a bit of attention, especially when she dances. many men approach her for photos and the other night a professional group was filming for something or another and she got quite a bit of film time with her sexy girations. that whole hip, shaky, shaky thing, ya know? i've seen other local women dancing and i'd have to say that mi chica is a top 10 percenter.

to think that there is that much motivation to stray is enough to make you a little paranoid and i'm not the paranoid type.

think i'm gonna have to start taking lessons on how to become more liberal in this town. 4-6 pilsens a day should do it.

this is a good thread. way to start an eye opener skippy.

i mean, i know the same thing happens in the US, but not with the same overtones as here. the young girls in the US are "just having fun" and although like rich boyfriends, prefer dating around for the shopping aspect of finding the "perfect guy". seems as though alot of the girls her go through the same motions here but with the intent of profiteering along the way, even if she has already found her "perfect guy".

i'm sure there are some socio economic differences here amongst those from well to do families vs. the less fortunate girls? or is promiscuous opportunity equal opportunity?

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 22, 2006, 12:32:

morphus the concensus i get after only being here 5 months is that Colombians think ALL gringos are rich. although they couldn't be more wrong in my case(in my mind anyways. i have an idea of what i think rich is), poor for me is still very confortable for the majority of them.

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 22, 2006, 12:34:

morphus by the way, your recommendation reminds me of the coming to america movie with eddie murphy and arsenio hall.

* maybe i can trade apartments with the super! i understand it's a real sh$# hole!

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paisa29 says on Jul 22, 2006, 15:56:

Skippy...Tu tienes la razón, yo he escuchado a mas de dos gringos aquí en Medellín hablar así sobre las mujeres y eso me enferma, muchas mujeres aquí no quieren salir con gringos porque no les gusta que hagan sentir como cualquiera.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 22, 2006, 16:18:

this seems to go in circles I don't understand what's the need to be putting this negative stigma on Colombian women, First it was the pereiranas, then the caleñas and lately it's been a lot of bs about the paisas.

It's just a handful of Sex Mongrels, predominantly from Gringolandia that are doing it, but they are very loud. It's like the National Enquirer: only the negative and scandalous is worth talking about.

So, like when I say that at least in Cali I haven't seen this predominatly promiscuous "culture" so people just ignore me and continue talking about percentages of the female population that are prostitutes in Medellin...but this is the kind of people we're talking here with. They are not interested in Colombia at all, only to pursue their own low-life interests...

Cheers,
Desi

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 22, 2006, 17:16:

desideria with all due respect from a polite, educated and very civilized gringo from gringolandia, it is nothing more than an inquisitive look into this very new and unique culture representative of medellin. no generalizations, no negativity, just discussion of supposed facts.

i for one am very interested in Colombia. all aspects of Colombia. it is the reason i set up camp here.

sounds like to me if the local newspaper is going to run a story about these type of statistics, they are going to conduct a fair amount of due diligence in preparation of the story.

i am just trying to embrace my uniqueness here, with eyes WIDE OPEN..........

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 22, 2006, 17:31:

well, thank you tejas for a response that's to the point.
First of all, there isn't any unique, new and representative culture of Medellín, it only exists in the fantasies of a few gringos that don´t share your mindset and interest. They are just interested of making money on the pitiful condition of economically deprived young Colombianas.

If you are interested in Colombia do visit the country (I suppose you already speak Spanish) and take a look yourself. You don't find this promiscuous culture there unless you especially look for it.That kind of "promiscuous culture" can be found anywhere for the people who pursue these interests.

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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MedellinViking says on Jul 23, 2006, 04:37:

Follow up for Medellin Viking to Tejasmarcos and all While it is true that El Tiempo did a story and estimated it at around 50% of the female population that is open to short term dating. From my experiences I tend to side with CTG BOUND that this could be slightly underestimated. To test a cross section of the university students just sign up for a class. Gather your data on availability for "dating with a kickback." My dentist (about 40) openly told me she wants a date with my friend (61, but wins in senior olympics and living here) in the waiting room. I assured her that descretion is the majority part of my valor, and the drill doesn't even figure into it. My barber, (stylist) never misses a chance to ask me about my schedule of upcoming gringo visits, just to remind me of her availibility, except of course when I see her on the streets of Sabaneta with her husband

In Exito and Carefour I regularly get chatted up and..... a hint here for when you are in the store or mall, it is best if one person breaks the ice by saying something like "my friend here think you are really beautiful but his Spanish is so bad he is embarrassed to ask you out for a drink. Look at him blush right now! He knows I'm talking bad about him." As corny as it sounds this diffusing of the situation from a direct approach, well.........

2 things in favor of the gals for taking a chance on the Gringo,
-A better chance of escaping your current life
-A history of Courteous, Respectful Treatment with better benefits.

Now there are posts here that talk about how bad the Gringo's conduct is in public, showing off, boisterious comments ect. but if even these buffoons manage to get a date they are usually very courteous in private. You will never know it from their tales of conquest but the girl will tell you how kind and gental they were. I've heard it a bunch of times.... from the gals..... after enduring the tale of conquest!

Now transitioning from a beer at the mall to a night of dancing and horizontal bop is one thing, to get them into the full scene of a swingers club like Cuchicheos(.com) in Sabaneta/Medellin is quite another. Haven't seen the the story in El Tiempo/El Colombiano on the percentages on that one yet!

Well I might have lied above just a bit.... my 61 year old friend, as incredibly fit as he is, sometimes comes in 2nd or 3rd depending on the event in the USA senior Olympics.

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

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Ctg Bound says on Jul 23, 2006, 04:40:

tejasmarcos It might of been on the web, but I only saw it in the paper, I think it has been mentioned on PBH a few times.

Although many of the girls are poor, many have money, they just don´t have enough to live their lifestyles and take the easier option to get the money, most of the girls working do not stand on street corners, but are recomended by others and their phone numbers etc passed around. For every steet walker there are thousands that are not.

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 23, 2006, 06:42:

MedellinViking says on Jul 23, 2006, 06:46:

He looks stupid and I would never go out with him She actually said it to herself with conviction. No attraction at all. Then minutes later she met a friend who had a really cool new purse with matching boots from Bon Bonite. In the bathroom curiousity got the best of her and questions were asked. How did you start- A friend of mine told me what she was doing, then invited me along one night as her backup for a new client, then referred a gentlemen to me one night when she was busy. Weren't you nervous? It help if you watch first. You should come with me just to check it out. And watch porn, guys just love it when you take the initiative and are adventurous. Also I learned from my friend, if you really try to pleasure yourself, the guy is more into it and faster. How do you get more clients? Guys talk. They just buy you stuff? Just ask, you never really know their limit and always have your bills like cellular and utilities in your purse. Has to be paid if they want to call you!

Paraphrased from a short conversation I was privvy to. And by the way, now the newby has Ola and Comcell cellular service. And about 8 purses with shoes to match.

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

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MedellinViking says on Jul 23, 2006, 07:00:

Never Underestimate... I should have titled my last post: Never underestimate the lure of people buying you things. Whereas desperation to feed house and clothe is probably the primary reason for entering the biz materialism and 'keeping up with the jones' exists

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

Live your fantasies because life is short and from all I've seen death is really, really long....

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 23, 2006, 07:08:

Monpirri says on Jul 23, 2006, 08:43:

I also agree with the above statements made by Desi, and I say don't go to Colombia in search of inquisitive sex because otherwise you are going to end up dead.
Reasons are several:
1. Colombians are already aware of these subliminal reasons instigated by some foreigners visiting Colombia
2. Many of these chicas work with criminal bosses or sicarios
3. AIDS is also aware of your intentions and it is waiting for you!

The life spam of a taste bud is ten days

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arthur brode (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 23, 2006, 08:57:

tejasmarcos says on Jul 23, 2006, 14:41:

nice website, Viking should this town convert me, i might have to stop by. thanks to all for the input. good insight, great thread.

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cleo0367 says on Jul 25, 2006, 08:34:

Canada? Arthur, what difference does it make if you are from Canada?


In love with Bucaramanga

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Nucknfuts says on Jul 31, 2006, 20:56:

There is no such thing as romance without finance... Also....
There is nothing MORE expensive than "getting it" for FREE !!!!

Men always pay for it be it direct or indirect......
I've payed for it when I was young and I'll pay for it when I'm old.
And I don't have any quams or illuions to the contrary.

Older women most always hate older guy's with young women.
Why is that ??????? I wonder ????/



You are never lost,
unless you don't want to be where your at.

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Rubiazo says on Jul 31, 2006, 21:08:

Monpirri I really didn't understand that post. I tried translating it into Spanish but that didn't help :P

But just so you know, the USA has a higher % of its population HIV positive than does Colombia, and in general has a higher STD prevalency rate. That's one of the reasons I think prostitution should be legal, it cuts down on disease!!

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Monpirri says on Aug 1, 2006, 05:04:

I know where you come from... Yep, it's very difficult to understand.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 1, 2006, 05:13:

Neo, I totally agree with ya, if women weren’t so damn choosy none of us would have to pay for it. I don’t see any harm with 70 year old guys dating 18 year old chicks. What’s the big freaking deal? You guys have no idea how many times I’ve been turned down by broads in Colombia, all while insulting me and I’m talking excruciating hurtful things. I even thought about doing a Michel Jackson, changing my appearance completely. All I need to do is bleach my skin white and cut off all my hair which is a dead give away. Injun hair in Colombia don’t fly with the middle class broads.
In my case, is not so much an age issue is more a racial and class thing cause I’ve seen plenty of pasty ass old and young modefoques with super hot Colombians. For me, Colombia is the worst place to get freebies, so whatta I do? Pay for it!
Lately I’ve been getting plenty attention from older gringa women, 70+. This weekend I got hit on by 3, the youngest was 68 but the one I found most sexy was a 73 year old. Is amazing how many lonely widows are in dire need of middle age corronchos.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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love2colombia says on Aug 2, 2006, 00:20:

Detras de las Chicas Aguila

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tejasmarcos says on Aug 2, 2006, 07:21:

L2C tasty and tasteful.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Aug 4, 2006, 12:58:

haven't the sex mongrels gone home yet?

Cheers,
Desi


Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Aug 4, 2006, 13:36: