Security Clearance Revokation

Crazy4Cali says on Sep 27, 2005, 17:51:

Yes. He should talk to his security officer (or similar person) before travelling. It may or may not affect his clearance and/or access depending on what he's working on. Also, he may need to provide them with a reason for why he's going there (and not some "friendly" country).

In theory, the security clearance people don't want someone to do anything that could be used as leverage against them later, nor do they want anyone with a clearance engaging in activity that could compromise (or even appear to compromise) his position and/or whatever he has access to.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 27, 2005, 17:51:

This scares me It's scary to me that they give security clearances to people who aren't smart enough to figure this out for themselves.

Hint: There is no list banning travel to Colombia and your fried might also consider that there are hundreds of Americans WITH security clearances working in Colombia.

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Crazy4Cali says on Sep 27, 2005, 17:53:

Sometimes... ...you just need to sit through (i.e. suffer through) some briefing telling you what you can and can't do.

Sneaking out and not telling anyone could have much more serious consequences.

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Lumpy says on Sep 27, 2005, 18:11:

Mr Hollywood... Part of "figuring it out" is gathering information from many sources and also attempting to get it straight from the proverbial "horse's" mouth. In the post, I said he just heard this... and considering it was 3am (where we work) my first inclination was to post here. An email was already sent to his Security Officer and he expects an answer in the morning. In the interim, I was hoping to hear from some of the folks here on PBH.

Thanks for your input... and don't you fret OK?!?! Don't be scurrrrrred! = )

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 27, 2005, 18:46:

Sorry lumpy Sorry, Lumpy, that sounded harsher than I meant. I didn't mean to get on anyone's ass about it. Your friend did the right thing by going to the person and organization responsible for the clearance.

But since you were looking for more info I'll tell you that I'm 99.9 percent sure it won't be a problem, unless your friend's plans include cavorting with Mono Jojoy.

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YTO SAN says on Sep 27, 2005, 21:57:

ABSURD I have a Classification A (and this is a higher rank dough)security clearance and I've been to Colombia several and I mean SEVERAL times and still have my clearance.

Your Friend should do some research!!!!! LOL

=======YTO SAN

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Lumpy says on Sep 29, 2005, 15:10:

**UPDATE** First, let me thank everyone for the input. I appreciate it. Even the comments from "gringoinbogata" were amusing! Especially the part about GS-8's and E-3's! = ) My buddy and I are both contractors (GS-12) working in Iraq... but, we came from corporate America. So, keep in mind that the experience of a GS-8 that worked up thru the civil service system is not the same frame of reference as somebody recruited from the private sector, ok? With that being said...

OK, here is the update from our Security Officer:

There are countries that have an impact! As you know, the Embassy has the listing on travel advisories for foreign countries. There are ALSO countries that have a direct impact on personnel with TS clearances. These countries are mainly the Eastern Bloc countries and terrorist sponsored states like, USSR, Syria, North Korea just to name a few.

"crazy" hit the nail on the head. My buddy informed his Security Officer of his intent to go, has to sit thru a brief but other than that, is free to go.

Thanks agian to everyone! = )

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CaryGrant says on Oct 1, 2005, 09:56:

Does your security officer still think the USSR exists? I knew bureaucracy moved slowly, but...

:D

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BAQ says on Oct 1, 2005, 11:22:

Your Friend I ran into the same situation a few years back. It depends on the clearance level your friend has and the agency he works for. Your friend needs to NOTIFY IN WRITING his department head that be plans to travel for "Non Govt Activity" ie: Personal business. He should then be given either a clearance or a denial to travel.

BEST THING to do is have him speak with his immediate supervisor, explain where he wants to go, for how long, why ect and send it up the chain from there. I didn;t have a problem when I explained where I was going and why "Family/personal business".

Hope the info helps.

Semper Fidelis !

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BAQ says on Oct 1, 2005, 11:30:

Check IN Also, if things have NOT changed (and I am speaking from experience a few years back), he needs to CHECK IN with the Embassy when he arrives (via telephone) and also find out how they want him to "Check out" when he leaves.

The procedures might have changed since I had to go through that horse and pony show, but best to cover all the bases.

The procedures also might be different since he is a "Contractor" and not working directly for an inter govermental agency.

Just a thought

Semper Fidelis !

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