Salary for Live in Maids in Miami - Ft. Lauderdale

adrimm says on Jun 13, 2005, 15:39:

Ummm I don't live in Florida, but do normal people actually hire live-in-maids in the US???

Seems a little odd (or kinky).

Just curious.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 13, 2005, 15:47:

Maid? Who needs a maid when you can get a Colombiana Stepford Wife?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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adrimm says on Jun 13, 2005, 15:59:

UTC ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!

I absolutely love it, so so apt for this board!

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kernow62 says on Jun 13, 2005, 16:14:

I have been trying to convince my wife that we need a live-in maid, but so far no luck. I have been making as much mess as possible but she just cleans all the more, after 11 years I would have thought I would have this all sorted but still no luck. I live in Florida and it is only common amongst the very wealthy, and perhaps a few politicians usually Republicans. Ordinary folks have to settle for a mistress or two.

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caslug says on Jun 13, 2005, 16:55:

How do you afford a mistress or two.. on a middle class income? I know in Califronia we can't you gotta be pretty rich to afford it.

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kernow62 says on Jun 13, 2005, 17:21:

They pay me. ;-)

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kernow62 says on Jun 13, 2005, 17:21:

I wish. :-(

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rologringo23 says on Jun 13, 2005, 18:45:

kinky? haha not kinky, thats nasty...unless shes really hot...then problem is that our maid (for 8 years) just quit she was making 300 per week, but she did not have papers, and we are trying to find a replacement, but its not easy finding someone who will be a live in maid..

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rologringo23 says on Jun 13, 2005, 18:47:

not necessarily... i think you can probly get a live in for about 250-350 pwe week, if they are illegal...its easier that way

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miamimike says on Jun 13, 2005, 19:23:

Thte only way you could get a live in maid for $250-$350 a week is if they are illegal.And if you hire an illegal here in Miami(I live here)and don't pay the Social Security portion--may be problems for you.Depends on how many hours you want them to work a day-I don't know anyone with Legal Status who would work 24/7-- 6 days a week for $300. From what I have seen with the cheap "Help" in Miami, if you don't pay them decently and let them have off Sat. and Sun. then you run the risk of them Stealing from you or they don't stay-they will leave as soon as they find something better.I have a friend that Babysits in Coral Gables for a wealthy American couple(they pay the best)she makes$450 weekly and has the weekend off.She has been with the couple 5 years now-also they pay her quarterly Social Security. Gloria Estefan on Star(?) Island was Robbed last year by her live in maid-stole a lot of the Singer's Jewelry.

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adrimm says on Jun 13, 2005, 19:34:

Personally Even if I could afford it (which at $15/hr - the going rate- I can't) I wouldn't be at all comfortable with letting a stranger in my home with 24 hr access to my possessions (cleaning nooks and crannies, in my closet). Cost and privacy are great incentives to live places that I can keep myself. :)

Have you considered hiring an agency to send someone over a couple times a week for a good cleaning? Probably alot easier than finding someone to actually live with you. I can't imagine the stress of reference checks etc, etc and this way you could avoid that (plus the whole illegal thing, that sounds very messy).

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 13, 2005, 21:45:

I hear that the Colombian consul in Houston has a few people that he might be willing to sell, er, um, I mean let you have for a while.

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Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 08:08:

thanks... Thanks for the reply. Our last maid that left was with us for 8 years she was from Mexico and we did have to put with her stealing some things like shampoo soap hair gel, etc...However she never stole anything expensive. It is difficult to find good help nowadays. We are willing to pay Room + Board + All Meals and $ 250-300 per week having off on Saturdays and Sundays. If you know of anyone please let me know. Thanks. We prefer her not to be Colombian since Colombian maids want higher salaries and are lazier (they want to talk on the phone all day and watch novelas haha), mexicans or central americans are better...

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 08:10:

hahaha haha

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elmodefoque says on Jun 14, 2005, 08:16:

I can’t believe these freaking insignificant indios colombianos want to bring their appalling habits of having maids here to the USA. Not even Donald Trump has a live in maid.

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 08:20:

agency...no The last time we had an "agency maid" she ended up being a woman with mental problems from Bolivia she actually involved in withcraft and she only lasted a week with us. Privacy is important however there are many benefits of a live in maid. For example, you get a babysitter, housekeeper, and butler all in one and only paying a little more than having a maid come 3 times per week at 60-80 dollars per visit. Whenever you want food, coffee, perhaps a massage, they are willing to do whatever because you take care of them give them food, uniform, and respect them, thats most important. You are the "patron" and as long as you take care of them they have no reason to leave. Remember maids in the US are treated much better than in Colombia, here they actually eat what the family eats... For example if we eat steak, so does she..in colombia its different because lets say the family eats steak, then the maid only gets rice or lentajas...plus people are very rude to their maids in colombia..

Maids can be paid in two ways cash or a company check...if you pay with company check, you can bill it as "contract services"

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Colombiche says on Jun 14, 2005, 08:36:

The difference rolo Is that maids in colombia have to put up with that at #$t because of the economical situation of the country and the lack of opportunity available for an uneducated woman.

Thank God here in North America (US and Canada), people don't have to do that. A maid, can probably make more money working at a local factory. There are more opportunities available to people, and even those who do not have an education can make a decent living performing blue collar work.

That is one of the things about Canada. Steak is not only for the rich, anyone can eat steak. People don't have maids, even the rich. Sometimes really well off people who are busy and travel a lot, hire baby sitters to look after the kids or will call a cleaning service to look after their house a couple of times a week.

AS Elmo said, what a backward mentality. Patron, feed them right... it sounds like you are importing colombia's third world mentality to the US.

See, when I see colombianos like you, I realize why we have guerrillas and sicarios.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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adrimm says on Jun 14, 2005, 08:40:

"..Actually eats what the family eats" Oh that's real big of you.

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litost says on Jun 14, 2005, 08:51:

Anyone can have their personal opinion and choice on wether or not to have a live-in maid, but I don´t think it justifies attacking someone who is asking a totally valid question about having one. The sad truth of the matter is that in this world (mostly in developing countries but even in the developed world) there are people who are poor/uneducated/illegal or whatever, and need to WORK to feed themselves and their families. Why condemn something that can represent the means of living of so many people? As long as it's done with respect and dignity, it's just as valid as any other job.

So... you don't have and would never consider havig a maid, OK, that's your choice, your life, but if someone has the means and thinks differently be TOLERANT about it. Get over your moral superiority complex people!!! Besides, you never know what specific circumstances or situations someone can have that make it very useful, if not necessary, to have live-in help.

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Colombiche says on Jun 14, 2005, 09:01:

Mmmmm... Sorry litost, but I beg to differ. It is not about moral superiority, it is just about hearing somebody talk about a maid as though she was the family pet, does that not bother you at all? At least a little bit?


I guess it is very easy for us middle class colombians to be tolerant of these things... after all it is not our mothers that are massaging some guys back and changing his slippers.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 14, 2005, 09:41:

I beg to differ too, but with the OP's views of the role of a live-in-maid in Colombia. The treatment of a maid in a Colombian family is very individual from family to family. In the worst cases, she is supposed to be on call 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, is not seated with the family at meals and has to use even different china and utensils to eat with/from. (Personal services like massage are not in general part of her duties.) Luckily this type of employment has all but disappeared in Colombia of today, along with other forms of feudalism.

So what are the duties of a maid in present-day Colombia? First of all, the overall heavy-duty sirvienta is past history. You don't get a cook, a butler, a nanny a laundress and a cleaning lady all in one package. Usually the maids who are willing to live with the family come from the countryside and are quite young. They are usually willing to take on the cleaning, laundry and lighter cooking duties or alternatively work as nannies/child minders with additional cleaning or laundry duties.

There are widely different scenarios how these women are treated in the families, but in in general, their work is considered important and is appreciated. Having a live-in maid increases the security factor of a home, unables the gainful employment of the wife and mother in the professional field she has studied and provides company to the children. Personally, I don't know how I would have managed to work and study at the same time as my babies were still small if I didn't have help inthe house.

It's not unusual that when the personalities of the lady of the house and the hired help match and there's mutual respect and appreciation these employments become long-term and the maid becomes almost a part of the family.

I've had a lot of maids in Colombia and some of them I still remember with affection and appreciation. They helped me enourmously keeping house and minding the children and we always treated them with utmost courtesy and consideration. There were girls who went to night school when living in our home and advanced in their lives to an employment with better possibilities for personal advancement. Many kept on visiting us long after they had moved on with their lives. I never thought of them as personal servants or somebody on call for 24 hrs a day. They had their working hours and weekends off, their vacations and time off for personal errands, medical check-ups, dentistry etc. just like anybody else.

I consider that household work is just as valuable and dignified as any other legal employment. The fact that these women often didn't have any education at all (some of them could barely read) the minimum salary plus free room and board, working clothes, medical expenses and bonuses was not such a bad deal considering that they didn't have to spend their salaries but could save almost all of it.

I wish people should stop thinking about household work as a form of modern-day slavery, because it's nothing like that. It can be more rewarding than standing at a conveyor belt 10 hours a day, standing at the door of a shabby shoe store at Pasajes Cali smiling and calling at potential customers in the heat of the day and certainly, much better than risking your health and life walking the streets.

Just my opinion.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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litost says on Jun 14, 2005, 09:48:

well said Desi... I re-read the OP and noticed he does kinda sound like an elitist jerk. But I agree completely with your view on live-in maids in Colombia.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 14, 2005, 09:50:

My mother was a maid in Colombia and let me tell you, the Rodriquez (fictional name) family can considered themselves extremely lucky that I was too young to pick-up a machete, because to this moment my dislike for Colombians with maids runs very deep and I refuse to visit any household that has one, which is a bitch because I’m limited to only visiting broke ass modefoques from corroncho neighborhoods.
I dated a gorgeous blonde from Connecticut, she was the ultimate gringa beauty and her family was worth millions of dollars not filthy pesos but they never had a maid. I had many, many very wealthy gringo friends and non had maids so why do these miserable, pretentious peso rich polo wearing little ugly colombiantos feel the dire need to have another human being pick up after their disgusting mess and take care of their ugly ass kids

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Colombiche says on Jun 14, 2005, 10:02:

Good thing ... That we also have Elmo's input here. Because you know what? We can all talk and talk, but ultimately he experienced this from the other end of the spectrum. He did not have a maid, but rather, grew up watching his mother take shit from her patrones.

I respect his point of view. If I was in his shoes, I would probably feel the same way.

Desi, I have a lot of respect for you because in spite of the fact that you are not colombian, you are very knowledgeable about the country. More so than many colombians. I would say you are colombian at heart. I am sure that you, being from a very humanitarian country, treated your maids very well in colombia. I have no doubt about that. You probably treated them better than many colombian families do.

In my mother's side of the family, the maids were treated with respect, they were almost considered a part of the family.

However, let me tell you about my dad's family. My father comes from an upper middle class paisa family. When he was growing up, not only did his family treat "sirvientas" like dirt, but they also referred to them as "negras", "sucias" and "igualadas". Not only were they expected to clean and cook, but also to initiate each and everyone of my father's fourteen brothers into manhood.

I will never forget when I was 6 years old, we were at a dinner party at my aunt's house. I was playing hide and seek all afternoon with the other kids at the party and the maid's daughter. Come dinnertime, all of the guest's kids were taken to the main luxurious, solid oak, silver chandelier clad dining room. The maid's daughter was taken away from the group to eat rice and lentejas in the kitchen. I remember being so angry that my playmate was not allowed to eat with us, that I refused to eat that day.

Yes, many maids have come to love their "patrones". But when you have a poor desperate woman and work that is done behind closed doors without any kind of regulations or a government entity that will take care of these women, abuses are going to occur more often than not.

That kind of mentality does not make sense in the states or CAnada, or Sweden or Finland for that matter. I cannot have any respect for the OP's point of view.

Thanks

colombiche

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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elmodefoque says on Jun 14, 2005, 10:10:

I still remember how these typical maid having Colombian assholes would get upset when I ran across the living room barefooted (I had no shoes) on my way to the back of the house to see my mom. they believed my feet were dirtier than the soles of shoes, maybe so, I did stepped on a lotta chicken shit and always had crap between my toes, that I ‘ll give to them but why do they have the dog chased me down every time I did that. I got even once, I pissed on their agua de panela, my mother was so damn scared, but I told her not to worry they’ll never find out. I also took Jaime’s (the ugly fat white Colombian kid) toothbrush and stuck it up my ass (brush first) and put it back in its place.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 14, 2005, 10:25:

I understand what you're saying, elmo and am sure that your childhood memories are very sombre and traumatic, but your mother would have been treated very differently had she been employed at my home or at the homes of my in-law's, close friends and other people that I have in-depth knowledge in Cali. I've had maids with children that I have watched their first steps, carried them and bought them clothes and presents. My best friend used to sit outside her house in the antejardin every evening chatting and joking, sipping a tinto and generally treating her as a good friend. I have a long-lasting friendship with my in-law's lifetime maid and her daughter, raised up in their home as a señorita (my in-laws are her godparents) and every time I visit Cali, I visit them, bring them presents, are invited to empanadas or tamales at their home and am e-mailing with the daughter off and on even now.

There's another side to the coin too.

Colombiche, thank you for your kind words. Referring to household employment in Sweden or Finland I can tell you that it's status is much higher here. We don't have maids, but some wealthier families are hiring cleaning help and it's not considered anything demeaning to earn a living cleaning or cooking. Same social benefits apply as in any other employment.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jun 14, 2005, 11:13:

gee thanks desi, in my next life I want my mom to be your maid instead. wait, I just thought of a crazy idea, why don’t you be my moms maid this time around, we’ll be sure to treat you very nice and even have you sit for dinner with us in el comedor, instead of out en el patio with the dogs.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 14, 2005, 11:22:

just think, elmo as a baby you would have been hugged and coddled by a blond and smiling woman instead...:)

No problem being your mom's maid in the next life. Then I'd get to change your diapers instead.

Leave that baggage behind, elmo.
No maids that I've known have eaten in the back patio with the dogs.
Cheers,
Desi
(and you're most welcome)

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jun 14, 2005, 11:28:

now, we're talking, are you double c or d. i would not mind having my first sexual experience with you, at all. imagine me 15 year old spoiled rotten colombia kid, and you my 20 year old swedish goddess teaching me all about sex. wow!!!! man, i gotta hit the bathroom, i'm too damn excited.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 14, 2005, 11:30:

in barranquilla, for poor kids our first sexual experience is with burras but for the wealthy kids is always "la manteca" or the maid.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 14, 2005, 11:40:

I've never had a "manteca" at my home so I wouldn't know. You're living in fantasy world, but whatever makes you happy. I'm very good at maiding, been doing that most of my life, but not in the sense that you are talking. I'm happy I wasn't born in your world or grow up in your neighborhood.
You had to bring that side in the discussion, didn't you? Almost obsessive, aren't you?
Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jun 14, 2005, 11:53:

Is no secret that I love white girls and I still think they are, by far, the best sex around unless kat and Colombiche would like to prove me wrong. I can’t hear the words Swedish and female with out getting a boner. Most people would be very grateful for the opportunity of landing on this great land (USA) to have a much better life but what I’m most grateful for is all the white girls I banged. I’ve enjoyed every single one of them and for that I’ll be eternally obliged

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 13:01:

Oh? so, I'm "an elitist jerk", eh? Why am I an elitist jerk? Is it because I live in a house full of children, teenagers and two parents that are working full time? There are no rich, elitist, polo-wearing people here. We're not a high class, snobby family that demeans manual laborers and mock them at our expense. As someone else said, everyone on here is entitled to their own opinion on whether having a maid is morally right or wrong - that's fine, but why attack me for it? The purpose of my post was to ask what the general price of hiring a live-in maid in South Florida commonly costs, that is all. My intention was never to turn this into a philosophical discussion on whether maids should be hired or what kind of people hire them, nor was it to turn this into a discussion on the living conditions of maids in such and such countries. So please, restrain yourselves from telling me what kind of a scumbag I am for hiring maids or trying to live like a king or take advantage of these poor greencard-less, uneducated women, or whether I should or should not (or if anyone should for that matter) be hiring live-ins, I just want to know what the average price for hiring a live-in maid in the Ft. Lauderdale or Miami is.

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kernow62 says on Jun 14, 2005, 13:10:

$400 a week.

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caslug says on Jun 14, 2005, 13:13:

maid in the USA... Rolo, i think if you were willing to pay higher wages and hire workers w/ papers, pay them like employee(social security, taxes, vacation, etc.,) then you wouldn't come off as "elitest". BTW, i'm not equating your treatment of a maid in USA as how people in ANY 3rd country treat their maid. It's just you open to critism because you're willing to hire illegals for cost saving.

Just because you live in a society that condones social injustice and abuse doesn't mean you are an "abuser". As Desi mention, her family treated their maid fairly and pay accordingly. I remember this same topic in past post where expats(hollywood) argue for paying maid more than local, because a) it's the right thing to do, 2) expat have more to lose(because they are foreign in foreign land), & 3) expat can afford it(paying hire/giving benefits). Then you had other poster aruging "when in rome.." mentality regarding keep wages low..

SO if you(anyone) pays good wages, treat workers w/ respect, & be a good employer. No one is going to complain(least of all the maid). BTW, ROLO, hope you never run for office because that's one big thing that many politicain get nailed on. Several politician had to withdrawl from jobs because it was found they hire illegals AND never paid social security.

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 15:28:

reply... First of all "illegals" need work too and appreciate a family that will take care of them... if you add it all up, $ 250-300 per week M-F plus room + board + unlimited meals + a private room w/ cableTV & satellite a paid cellular phone + (weekends free to sleep if necessary) is not really abusing...just my viewpoint, however everyone has their opinion and I am open to constructive criticism...our last maid was even treated as part of the family and taken on vacations with all expenses paid, she cried the day she had to leave and we still keep in touch with her.

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kernow62 says on Jun 14, 2005, 16:12:

I don't see anything wrong with having a maid, it is like any other employee with the exception that they are often given benefits an ordinary employee would not receive. I think a few might have been upset by the comment about the occasional massage which are not normally part of a domestic's duties, at least a reputable domestic or for the asking by a responsible employer.

I welcome all people to the US, illegal or not, come on in grab a piece of the pie while there is still some on the plate. Just don't become a US citizen, you might need an out one day.

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litost says on Jun 14, 2005, 16:29:

Rolo,

If you notice I'm actually the same one who defended you at first from the criticism of others about having a maid. However, when I noticed the part about "Whenever you want food, coffee, perhaps a massage, they are willing to do whatever..." that just kinda got to me (especially the massage part). Although as I have said I see no problem in someone having a maid, this seems a little over the top to me and gave me a bad impression. Sorry about the "elitist jerk" comment, but re-read what you wrote and maybe you'll realize why you got such negative feedback.

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 16:34:

thanks... I appreciate your comment. Thank you for actually having the class to properly explain yourself, unlike elmodefoque who we can all see is just a resentful man who is mad at the world and jealous of others

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 16:44:

insignificant indios?? lol haha...are you serious? I know you are not calling me an indio colombiano because I am white and havent lived in Colombia since I was 3 years old, and am the farthest from indio possible. take a good look at yourself in the mirror and then see who is the INDIO, all you are missing is your fletchas and face paint...you have no right to make assumptions of who is insignnificant and how isnt, how dare you? you have no idea who you are dealing with, and it is a waste of my time for even writing this e-mail.I would like for all of you to take a good look at ELMODEFOQUE's picture http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/4019 and see if he has any right to call anyone an indio??...by the way you are offending other colombians who post on this site and may happen to look a little bit dark. I guess you cant expect more out someone who names themselves, elmodefoque, you just make yourself look worse every time you post on here...and the post you said about sticking a toothbrush up your ass...well that speaks for itself, it shows your lack of class, hey u should be my maid! Thats a great idea, im in the mood for a bandeja paisa and could use a massage my back is killing me...get to work! y no se olvide el jugito de mango

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 14, 2005, 16:50:

Listen to yourself Kernow: "I welcome all people to the US, illegal or not, come on in grab a piece of the pie while there is still some on the plate. Just don't become a US citizen, you might need an out one day." What if somebody had said this about Colombia or the United Kingdom? Personally I think every alien sucking on the American economic teat ought to get the hell out if they do not assume American citizenship once they are able. It's comments like this that spawn things like the Patriot Act. When the American gestapo comes to your house looking for you Kernow, I am not going to be very sympathetic.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Colombiche says on Jun 14, 2005, 17:05:

Rolo I am a totally white skinned (when I put my forearm beside any of my anglo Canadian friends it is the same color) green eyed paisa, and you know what? Here in Canada I don't consider myself white. Here in Canada, I am just another Latino immigrant. Snap out of it. You are not white, you are LATINO. Somewhere down the line, you have an Indio somewhere. When I look in the mirror I am so happy for my high cheekbones and my somewhat slanted eyes because they tell me something about my heritage: I must have an indio somewhere down the line.

FYI, you don't know Elmo well enough to diss him about his colour. Dude knows he is Indio corroncho and he is always screaming that fact. He just has a problem with mestizo colombianos who think they are freaking caucasian royalty.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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rologringo23 says on Jun 14, 2005, 17:14:

im not dissing anyone... im just stating a fact...by the way why dont you look at his first message to me, he is the one that called me an "indio colombiano" I did not mess with him first..you should lecture him, not me

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Colombiche says on Jun 14, 2005, 17:25:

rolo Since when is calling somebody an indio an insult? Indio is just a race like any other. Elmodefoque is a full blooded Guajiro, no white mix in him. He knows he is an indio and he tells everybody about it and posted his picture so everybody can see how truly indio he is.

I am not going to speak for anybody, but I just don't understand us getting pissed off about being called Indios.

Man, that drop of Indian blood is what gives us colombianas that edge.
I love it when people can't figure out what my ethnicity is, they can't tell whether I am Russian, Easter European, turkish or a Latina.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Jun 14, 2005, 17:28:

No lecturing... just speaking my mind. I am very outspoken, in person or on the web.


Anyway, good luck. I will let Elmo speak out for himself and I wish you luck with your maid search, hope it works out for both parties.

Sincerely

colombiche hasta la muerte (y quien sabe si despues tambien?)

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kernow62 says on Jun 14, 2005, 17:37:

UTC calm down; I only said that to flush out any bigots on the forum.

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caslug says on Jun 14, 2005, 17:39:

rolo.. you got thin skin here..(not an insult BTW).. ELMO is ELMO, he only has one tone, angry, sacrastic, peverted, AND hilarously insightful & funny. I think the only people who gets offend by his comments are people who maybe those comment hit home.
IMO opinion there's nothing wrong w/ hiring an illegal(as long as you don't plan to go into public service), BUT if employers hire illegal BECAUSE they can pay them LOWER than legal workers, then that's doesn't look good in public(forum) eyes.

If family wants to hire maid/nanny/domestic help, then they should have enough money to pay decent wages(ie, same as legals workers). I have friends/relatives that paid nanny $1500-2000/mo for 8-10 hr work(not live-in) or put their kids to daycare(800-1000/kid). Domestic help is a luxury service, therefore(this is what elmo and other are implying) IF you can afford the "luxury" then paid accordingly. Otherwise, you open yourself up to be accused of penny-pinching and taking advantage of their immigration status. We recently had a thread about COL-AMERICAN buying luxury items but living on welfare or poverty(ie, driving a BMW but collecting welfare..)

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miamimike says on Jun 14, 2005, 19:59:

Rologringo, be careful with that "Contract Business"... "Maids can be paid in two ways cash or a company check...if you pay with company check, you can bill it as "contract services"
In all probability most illegals or even legals working as Maids, nannies ect are NOT set up to be "Contract Employees". They are not incorporated and do not meet the legal threshold of a contract worker. A really easy test is:is the employee able to accomplish said work on his/her timetable or are the hours dictated by you?? In all likelyhood the cleaning work,cooking, babysitting has to accomplished within the hours that are set by you. If this is the case and it appears to be, they are NOT contract workers. If a person is set up as a corporation, say as a housecleaner and there are some here in Miami that are set up in this manner-they can go anytime during the day to the client's home or condo, clean a few hours and go on to the next customer, they are independent and set their own hours. They pay quarterly Federal Income taxes, they pay all Social Security taxes(15% of wages). They are requiered to have an Occupational License($65), liability insurance; legally they are Indys(independent). These are some of the prerequisites. Many Nursing Agencies here in Miami tried to con some some Nurses and Assistants into beleiving they were Indys on a regular basis ; they were and are caught caught and fined heavily by the Government and have to pay ALL back SS taxes ect for the so called Contract Employees. I enlighten each and every one of them I see being shortchanged to their "Rights" and who to turn to if they are not being compensated fairly by our Federal and State Law.In my case it happens to be Florida.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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adrimm says on Jun 14, 2005, 21:43:

Colombiche OMG, I get called Turkish too! Esp when I was backpacking in Europe. It was weird. Some people there thought I was dark Polish too (I have eastern european & Irish in me), people at home think I am 1/2 hawaiian or 1/2 native. I've had little old chinese people and little old east indian people come up to me and say stuff (in cantonese or punjab) It's so much fun to keep them all guessing my mix!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 15, 2005, 05:03:

let me see... It would probably be good for the maids and nannies etc household workers to be corporated, have their own trade union and set their own hours and wages. That way nobody could take advantage of them or treat them with disrespect. I also believe that you should get a tax deduction for employing domestic help to make employing illegals less profitable.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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elmodefoque says on Jun 15, 2005, 05:19:

El Rologringo, here my friends is a typical maid exploiting “white” (according to him) colombianito with his very typical bigot views and one of the main reasons FARC flames continues to burn. No, I do not wear paint, the girls in my Wayuu village during certain ceremonies paint half (horizontal) their face in red or black and the guys paint their balls in yellow, blue and red so when little maid exploiting colombianitos with their cute polo shirt, sunglass case attached to belt, and handkerchief in back pocket, are captured they are forced to lick the paint off the Wayuu’s sweaty balls to later become additional meat for the sancocho. The colombianitos tiny testicles are fed to the dogs. We no longer carry “flechas” but AK-47, that’s why many little yellow colombianitos like you are terrified of traveling to La Guajira, not me. I go anywhere in Colombia I want, except to your Zona Rosa in Bogotá, that I leave to your kind to discuss the price and quality of maid service all while living in a third world country.
Now if you excuse me, this Indio will be meeting all day with my colleagues to draft a letter to Congress requesting more federal funding for public television.
Best of luck in your quest for a maid, hope you find one that can be exploited as much as the ones in good ol' Colombia.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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rologringo23 says on Jun 15, 2005, 09:55:

haha..what a funny guy you still do not understand, you probably didnt go to college and have trouble reading, i said i am american, i was just born in colombia...i gotta give it to you tho, your a funny guy...however you dont know me and we run shit when we go to colombia, you have no idea who i am and the power i have over you. youd probably shit your pants if you knew who you were insulting. im not afraid of travelling to la guiajira and have been there many times, if youd like you could be one of the guards at my finca,ill give you an AK to hold and 3 meals a day, and ill even let you take the lancruiser for a spin around the finca a couple times.

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adrimm says on Jun 15, 2005, 10:06:

Ahhhhaa So it is a troll!

Elmo you've been had, we've all been had!!!!!!!

I wondered this at the beginning, since anyone with 1/2 a brain who lurks or posts here knows that such a post would eventually lead to an eruption.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 15, 2005, 12:10:

I was a tired and hungry 6 year old modefoque; I just finished selling about ¾ of the butifarras in my metal container. Selling butifarras under that famous Barranquilla infierno de sol is not a very pleasant ordeal especially for someone so young. Around 1 pm I always visited my mom while she prepared lunch for those pigs (her patrones). To be honest I went there to grab something to eat, but of course I had to hide, I was not allowed to eat their food. Esa maldita vieja with her died blonde hair, una vieja cepetua, always waited for me and as soon as she saw me sent me to do a “mandao’ which was to get Jaime, her 14 year old fat ass ugly white grandson an ice-cream. I was never offered one but spitting on that disgusting pig’s ice-cream brought me great joy maybe more joy than actually eating one.
30 years ago I was tempted to come back to Colombia and settle some old scores but young blue eyed blonde hair gringas kept jumping naked on top of me. To them I was irresistible but to colombianas I was repulsive.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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Rubiazo says on Jun 15, 2005, 14:04:

Just FYI I've seen signs on the streets here in the Bronx for people wanting to work as maids. The deal is usually $300 a week, Sundays off, room and board. Are they illegal? Probably. Is life shit? Probably.

Colombiche, I bet if you walked down Eglinton West during a busy day you could take home a live-in maid in less than an hour if you were willing to pay the going rate. For that matter, I don't think it would be too hard in Sweden or Finland too. I hardly think that's a Colombia-specific problem either, or even a Latin American one. I really wish I had a nickel for everytime Colombia's problems are discussed here but they are obviously UNIVERSAL problems.

And I know lots of Upper East Side and Connecticut gringos who have live-in maids. I don't know what kind of treatment they get.

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teppar says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:06:

live-in maids are quite common here.... and the going rate is approximatly between US$135-200 per month...they'll cook, clean and take care of child-minding...they're supposed to have friday's off and a vacation for one month to their country of origin with a paid airline ticket every two years....

just thought i'd throw in input on what maid service is like in other parts of the world....

cheers

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kernow62 says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:13:

Teppar, where is here?

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teppar says on Jun 15, 2005, 16:15:

kernow... the united arab emirates

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kernow62 says on Jun 15, 2005, 17:02:

Thanks, now I recall from earlier posts, the old memory is not what it used to be.

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Rubiazo says on Jun 15, 2005, 22:45:

Oh yes... I also know a Peruana who was living here in the Bronx but left for a live-in maid position in Alexandria VA. This one was legit with all benefits, social security etc, and $2k a month (minus taxes). She was very happy to go because 'por fín en este país voy a poder guardar plata.'

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