Salarios en colombia

jonas says on Jun 11, 2008, 11:15:

some people holding a degree do earn 5 mio, no doubt. But if you want an average (including post grad) I would say maybe half that. There are tons of academics driving taxis here.
If you land a job with a big finance firm you may earn 5 mio if you are lucky. Holding a degree from abroad should be to your advantage.

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papiChulo says on Jun 11, 2008, 11:25:

I think Rubito is right... you'd only get that kind of $$$ in Bogota but few and far between.

you'll never go before your time

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Colombiano_81 says on Jun 11, 2008, 11:28:

you gotta get connections in this city if you want to make that sort of money...I think if you are a finance director you might make that (might)... other than that don´t expect to make more than 3 million.

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ietk says on Jun 11, 2008, 11:43:

After you get your MBA and all the bells and whistles that come with it, be ready to get a master in the art of "palanquear" because you will need a big palanca to get a job that pays that much.

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crisaldana says on Jun 11, 2008, 11:57:

lol.. I guess im gonna get a double major. MBA with concentration in Palancas!.. lol

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jorgegdiaz says on Jun 11, 2008, 12:12:

First of all, what`s your work experience ? Then you can ask for big $$$.

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panthdave says on Jun 11, 2008, 12:23:

I would say that a good job pays about 3 Mil with benefits and pension included is the NORM for Medelin but you need to have connections/degree/experience/little luck too...Now in Bogota I have heard its higher than 3 Mil but cost of living has to be alittle higher in Bogota too..and heard many do have 5 Mil jobs as top positions..Bogota only.,.

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crisaldana says on Jun 11, 2008, 12:25:

I currently have 2 years in banking (Management Associate) and 1 year in Investments (Analyst)

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dolphinz says on Jun 11, 2008, 12:31:

Great question crisaldana! I'm working in investment research and considering making a move to Colombia in a few years as well...

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jorgegdiaz says on Jun 11, 2008, 12:47:

I have a master`s in engineering from a US Univ and 3 years of work experience in the good ol` US as an engineer. You simply cannot compare salaries between Locombia and the states.
I have college friends making 6 mill plus performance bonuses but working on an oil field 21 x 7, and that`s with 5 years of experience.

My point is: if you are moving back make sure you are doing it for other reasons than $.

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crisaldana says on Jun 11, 2008, 12:58:

Moving back definitely takes into consideration many factors, but $ is always an important factor.

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crisaldana says on Jun 11, 2008, 13:03:

Im not saying that I am expecting to make more in colombia than what i could make in the states.. but the reason that I am asking is to know what to expect if I was to move there.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 11, 2008, 13:39:

Ah, but what about if they offered you $10,000 plus expenses to sing for one hour at a big corporate event?

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jorgegdiaz says on Jun 11, 2008, 13:42:

look in :
elempleo.com
zonajobs.com.co
monster has a latinamerica board
and rigjobs.com for Rubito... lol
You can get an idea of what the market is

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jorgegdiaz says on Jun 11, 2008, 13:54:

Also look in clasificados El Tiempo or your local paper

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sandman0011 says on Jun 11, 2008, 14:38:

2-3 mil right out of school. Possibly 3-3.5 with an MBA and some experience. Better be fluent in Spanish though and have some serious connections because those obs go to people with contacts.

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wendell13 says on Jun 11, 2008, 15:35:

check out this site www.computrabajo.com.co

it gives you an idea for salarys in colombia

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Gator says on Jun 11, 2008, 16:03:

First, if you have no connections you are in for a long, hard hunt. Second it is amazingly hard to break in as a new comer. Last try for an American (US) company looking for someone to be based in Colombia. Should be a lot of multi-nationals interviewing this time of year.

I, also, say somewhere between 2 and 3 million pesos a month

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twmcm says on Jun 11, 2008, 18:29:

What is palanquear?

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Rikito says on Jun 11, 2008, 18:36:

Rubito, why the hard on about oil companies...get a rejection notice or two? I worked for Amoco Corporation for many ears and it was a good company, gave me good benefits, a great retirement to supplement my social security and they were a good community citizen. Why not banks...the sleaziest organization anywhere in the world. In every country you can name, Banks will always have the poorest reputation.

Don't generalize by something you read somewhere. There are many great companies and crappy companies in any industry. In my opinion, I would never work for a bank because they commit usury each and every day. They openly lie to their clients, they care nothing for customer service, and they will screw with your money at every opportunity. But the worst company of all would be working for the Catholic Church were hypocrisy is their middle name. I would rather work for Hugo Chavez than the Church.

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bradk says on Jun 11, 2008, 20:25:

what about for people without degrees with a sales background

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Simon says on Jun 11, 2008, 20:28:

"But the worst company of all would be working for the Catholic Church were hypocrisy is their middle name. I would rather work for Hugo Chavez than the Church."

I guess working for an organization that promotes hope and peace worldwide is not your cup of tea.

Yours was an interesting post but you just had to fok it up in the end, spewing your anti-Catholic bigotry, what a shame.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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BillBigD says on Jun 11, 2008, 21:17:

Rubito, I guess you have never heard of Petrobras of Brazil. Many consider it a national icon as one of a handful of firms that have helped the great growth in Brazil. The company has 450,000 applicants for 2,600 openings. Not all oil firms are the same.

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rocinante says on Jun 12, 2008, 06:26:

Lots of good advice here. But getting hired as a foreigner by a Colombian firm is a REEEEEEEEEEEAL longshot. Even if you are fluent in Spanish, totally qualified for the position and were born overseas but to Colombian parents.

There are so many qualified Colombians who worked hard through school (sans ICFES) and the thought of giving a well paying job to a foreigner who can easily work in their own country is unthinkable.

I'm not talking about sewing jeans or making jewlery or arepas in a boiler room (those are difficult to land as well). I'm talking about telecom, sales, IT and other white collar types of jobs.

If you are a doctor and would like to open your practice or START a business and hire yourself that's a different story.

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Rikito says on Jun 12, 2008, 06:37:

Simon , do you practice being ignorant or does it come naturally. Nowhere does my comment indicate bigotry. But then again, I doubt if you understand the words meaning. And where did I say or indicate that I am anti-catholic? In fact, I am a catholic and go to church regularly. Also, I was once in a monastery for 2 years. That does not mean I would ever work for them…and show me just how they promote peace anywhere that does not suit their prurient purpose?

You know nothing about the Catholic Church and what it has done over the centuries. For example, they are responsible for the massacre of the American Indians and are the main force that destroyed the South American indigenous peoples. In fact my friend, more people have dies and been murdered in the name of the Catholic Church than any other organization in the history of the world. The church was also complicit with the Nazis against the Jews in World War ll. And today in the U.S. and many other countries the Catholic Church been have allowed and gloss over the churches abuse of children that has cost them millions and millions of dollars. I could go on and on giving you examples, but that would probably be too many syllables for you to comprehend.

I believe in many teachings of the Catholic Church, but many of them define hypocrisy such as the unequal treatment that the church has towards women. Then there is this virgin birth business…good grief!

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sandman0011 says on Jun 12, 2008, 06:54:

If you are fluent in Spanish, do not overlook the opportunity of a Colombian company hiring you for your fluency in English to market and sell to the US and Europe. Lady I know that grew up in the US but is Colombian by heritage got a great job marketing fresh cut flowers to US companies. Having a US passport comes in very handy as well.

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nine inch nails says on Jun 12, 2008, 08:08:

twmcm,

palanca means lever so I take they mean you need a lot of leverage (have an "in" somewhere) to get hired.

get down, get down. are you afraid of the boogie monster?

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nine inch nails says on Jun 12, 2008, 08:17:

Jobs with Big Oil companies aren't all in the field or at sea 24/7 (actually 12/7, they give 12 hrs. on and 12 hrs. off for safety reasons).

If you are an Engineer, Accountant, Logistician, Admin. etc. many of those jobs have more normal hours however they are in an office setting quite posssibly in cubicles.

However if for some other reason (ethics etc.) you do not desire employment with Big Oil I totally respect that.

If however you are interested in Big Oil and have one of the specialties above it is one of the bright areas in this job market. Incredible # of vacancies with top benefits and pay. Also Big Oil doesn't actually hire that many employees direct. Most of the work is outsourced and in the case of Engineering there are many "E&C (Engineering & Construction) contractors/subcontractors, oil field technical service companies etc.

The downside if you are inclined is that it is a very cyclical industry although with today's high oil prices and not coming down any time soon is wide open.

get down, get down. are you afraid of the boogie monster?

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rjstuff says on Jun 12, 2008, 09:37:

crisaldana 2 or 3 mil a month is good money but 'not good enough' - if you are living with your parents (or rent free) then its real good money for Colombian standards. Most household if both husband and wife work and make 2 or 3 mil each - they they have a great life, otherwise it can be a struggle especially in expensive cities like Bogota. As with any place if you can land a starting job in a big corporation (utility, phone, mining, oil etc.) then your path to large salaries is possible - depending on how well you prove yourself. But the best would be - if you can think of a business and start a business of your own - then the limit on your earning is set by you. Good Luck

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morphus says on Jun 12, 2008, 09:49:

If you own your own place then 2 or 3 mil a month is more than enough. Unless you have some major vicios.

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Simon says on Jun 12, 2008, 09:50:

"For example, they are responsible for the massacre of the American Indians and are the main force that destroyed the South American indigenous peoples."

Rikito,

And the Protestants were a bunch of saints towards the American indians? Funny how they somehow get a pass but the Catholics get all the blame on their treatment of the indigenous peoples of America.


"And today in the U.S. and many other countries the Catholic Church been have allowed and gloss over the churches abuse of children that has cost them millions and millions of dollars. "

Most of these degenerate priests have been denounced and prosecuted. The Pope has apologized and even met with several victims during his last visit to the US. What else do you want? And you're opinion on the virgin birth just proves that you're not a real Catholic.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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morphus says on Jun 12, 2008, 10:09:

A moderate Catholic versus an extreme Catholic? Interesting!

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curramberochris says on Jun 12, 2008, 10:34:

Due to employment laws they will employ national ahead of foreigners.Unless you have a family member high up in society then you will be lucky to make that much money. Unless you find a job in the states and are moved to Colombia
There are lots of people here, just as qualified who would work for less than that.

That is why salaries are low, not enough jobs and lots of people wanting ot work.

Good luck with your hunt for palanca

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morphus says on Jun 12, 2008, 10:49:

"There are lots of people here, just as qualified who would work for less than that"

Hell yeah! They also bring in people to work for minimum wage to do most of the work. Imagine working in an office 12 hours a day, 6 days a week for 800,000 pesos a month.

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Simon says on Jun 12, 2008, 10:56:

"A moderate Catholic versus an extreme Catholic? Interesting!"

I'm not that extreme, I'll skip a Sunday here and there and I like to have my (clean) fun.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 12, 2008, 22:03:

Given a choice, I think I'd rather be an African slave in cotton, tobacco or cane fields than a Native American or African slave in the silver and tin mines of Latin America. A terrible existence for all, of course, but at least the former had sunlight, open spaces and fresh air and didn't die of mercury poisoning or silicosis at a young age.

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Simon says on Jun 12, 2008, 22:28:

Tinto,

I don't think you'd like to be a North American slave captured while trying to flee. In 1712 after a revolt in New York was subdued, "some slaves were burnt, one broke on the wheel, one hung alive in chains and one poor slave was burned over a slow fire for eight to ten hours--all this to serve notive to other slaves". Ouch!

* A People's History of the United States

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 13, 2008, 01:37:

I said I'd rather be a slave in the agricultural fields, e.g. in the U.S., the European Caribbean or Brazil, than a slave in the mines, e.g. in Bolivia or Mexico. That's all.

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Rikito says on Jun 13, 2008, 09:27:

Simon, I don't know why I am bothering with this but I'll try for the last time. I'm sure that Protestant were not saints either, but I am not talking about them. The Catholic Church funded many of the new world expeditions through the various royals.’ And yes my friend, the Catholic Church is far...far more responsible for the masseur of indigenous peoples than any other body, government, religion, etc. I didn't even talk about the hundreds of thousands of people murdered by the Church during the 'Inquisitions.' The Spanish by way of the infamous order of Jesuits killed, slaughtered, and killed to force these heathens to convert. Entire villages were destroyed if they did not. Please, you have to recognize this.
As for the Protestants...if it was not for the dictatorial and tyrannical polices of the Catholic Church there would be no Lutheran or many other Protestant religions. They formed as an affront to the Catholic Church.

And the only reason the Catholic Church has apologized and made any form of compensation to the ‘abused’ is because they got caught...clear and simple! The abuse of children went on for 50-60 years or more and the Church did nothing other than transfer or retire the abuser.

You seem to be a very ignorant person and very judgmental by how you accuse me of not being a real Catholic. That is unfortunate, but it is typical of people who will not accept truth even when it looks them in the face.

All I am saying is that I contend that the Catholic Church is too hypocritical for me to want to work for them. I have personal experiences throughout my life and from living in different countries to prove this in my mind. You on the other hand refuse to consider that they are not the best employers.

One more example of hypocrisy. How many Popes were married? How many Popes had children? What Italian family forced the Catholic Church to name members of their family Pope or else? What Pope had his son made Pope after he died? What Pope who during WWll aided and abetted Hitler and the Nazi's. This same Pope also knowing allowed and assisted the Nazi's to send thousands of Jews to their death. What Pope excommunicated a famous French priest for saying the mass in Latin? This happened recently. Do you have any idea how much the Catholic Church is involved with FARC and has been involved with FARC since its inception? Hard to believe, but unfortunately it is true.

However, the positive aspects of the Catholic Church far outweigh the negative in today’s steam of consciousness, which is why I continue to worship my faith in the Catholic Church. I believe in what the Church is and what it believes in. I find it despicable and sad how they got there.

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

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curramberochris says on Jun 13, 2008, 12:06:

wow, this has gone really off topic!!

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rjstuff says on Jun 13, 2008, 12:57:

I am an athiest, so Rikito, or Rubito or Simon - who pays more Catholics, Protestants, Slaves ... ? And who gets paid the most in Colombia - Catholics, Protestants, Slaves or MBA, MD or ...?

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kalder says on Jun 14, 2008, 08:38:

Rikito's polemic is entertaining. But as history it's rather lacking. Oh deary me, yes. In fact, it's utter arse. Those silly canards about the Catholic Church and the Nazis may have some currency in the school playground, but are certainly not the domain of any serious historian.

And it's all very rich from someone who lambasted the great PowWow thus:

"Now you can say all of the opinionated, biased, subjetc matter completly out of sync with the discussion, made up stories with no proof crap that you want...and no one will challenge your intelligence (or lack of)."

I'd be curious to see how the Rikster would fare, were he subject to such a challenge...

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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crisaldana says on Jun 14, 2008, 09:37:

lol.. we went from salaries to potilics and religin in 2.3 seconds.. we are supposed to be talking about "the benjamins".

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