Rudeness reported in Miami

utopiacowboy says on Jun 3, 2005, 21:46:

Imaginate! Rudeness in Miami. I think Miami is the rudeness capital of the world so it doesn't surprise me at all. They even surpass New Yorkers and that's an accomplishment.

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juanalejo says on Jun 3, 2005, 23:30:

Is it a joke Platano? For me the continuous breaking of international agreements by US officials is what makes me feel angry. Diplomatic inmunity is diplomatic inmunity, here and everywhere and Miami is no exeption. I wonder what the US would do if Condolezza´s panties would be searched all over Eldorado. They would probably make sure the customs official gets sacked and dissapeared from the face of earth.

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quindioman says on Jun 4, 2005, 02:59:

what a load of tosh all these bastards should get treated the same....immunity.....FUCK immunity what makes them so fucking different from the rest of the world?
1 law for you and 1 law for him....this is the kind of discrimination that gets up peoples noses in the 1st place.....

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Dan says on Jun 4, 2005, 04:28:

found the article on El Tiempo website. To me it almost looks like she's acting like a spoiled little rich girl. the article said that even though she's an american citizen, she presented a passport and ID that showed her as "Ministra de Relaciones Exteriores de Colombia". Did she think that would exempt her from going through security? I don't think an offical passport should exempt anyone. The article said that the note that was written didn't even have the character of a diplomatic letter. That's probably not going to help her out in anyway.

Security isn't an easy job. Just look at all that they do with all the people coming from who knows where. They're kept busy and moving the whole time. Let them keep doing their job. I'm sure this lady isn't the first nor the last to complain about it.

God Bless America!

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Miguel says on Jun 4, 2005, 05:08:

zzzzzzzzzzz This topic already has been addressed in an earlier post by CO X.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jun 4, 2005, 07:19:

Remember what happend to Ted Kennedy? I think it's shameful that the US would treat the foreign minister of any country, much less an ally, this way, but you have to keep it in context. It was less than six months ago that Senator Ted Kennedy was refused boarding on a commercial flight from Washinton D.C. to Boston because someone named "Ted Kennedy" was on the no fly list. If it can happen to one of the most famous Senators in the US, from the single most famous political family in the US, it can happen to anyone.

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rjstuff says on Jun 4, 2005, 08:06:

What a great farce this all is While all of us have to spend 2 to 3 hours waiting in lines at the airport - it has not made the system foolproof or even nearly foolproof. Homeland agents have been able to take knives, guns and explosive substances (I am not sure real or made up to look like real) on to planes (As part of exercise to check on the efficiency of the system!). So! Why are we the poor schmucks who are only interested in a beer and a meal subjected to this garbage? Either make the system foolproof or do away with this nonsense - and what about the seaports and the borders with Canada and Mexico! I think they are putting a false sense of security into the minds of the US public - none of this has accomplished much from what I can see (from their own reports!) In my opinions, let there be multiple lines for VIPs etc. to go through without any checks - that will cut down my waiting time at least!

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juanalejo says on Jun 4, 2005, 09:31:

First of all she is not a US citizen, she can not be working for the diplomatic service, she actually gave up her citizenship just as Moreno the ambassador also did. Second regardless if she is liked by some or not, the foreign minister of a country is the foreign minister of a country. Thrd she could have called the special services which meet her at the airplane and whiz her out with no questions asked, she preferred standing in line and simply going through the regular channels. It is the fault of the customs´ servicies not to adhere to the international conventions when it comes diplomats. And no it is not only the pouch that is inmune, it is the person that is. This is no Queen´s messenger with a diplomatic pouch, it is the diplomat itself. Fourth this is customs, not security for boarding an aircraft. And last she did send a private letter to the US embassy which gave no answer until "diplomatically" the information filtered and guess what suddenly an answer came about. I do not care if it is Carolina Barco or who ever the Minister is, it is simply that the US has to abide by international treaties and period.

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platano says on Jun 4, 2005, 10:47:

Get with the program juanalejo, We are talking about the world's superpower who decides when and if it will abide by or simply find "quaint" the international treaties you mention. Examples: Geneva Conventions, Hague/ICC, Kyoto, NPT, UN Security Council, etc.

Plátano, el banano verde
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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Sr Tertius says on Jun 4, 2005, 11:46:

Protocol, not snobbery You got it right, Juanalejo. As much as I hate the snobbery of some Colombian politicians (look for the discussion on the little brats working for us in the UN), there is such a thing called protocol. No, you don't treat people the same when they are representatives of a national government than when you are visiting Disney World. To couch that as "discrimination" banalizes a serious issue that has nothing to do with Mrs. Barco situation. And if Ted Kennedy had the same problem, it should be a problem to fix, not a excuse.

"Barco gets a free ride in style all the way down to Chile" When my boss asks me to drive with him to give me instructions, I never think of that as a "free ride in style". In fact, I charge for that.

"El que a hierro mata..."

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Sr Tertius says on Jun 4, 2005, 12:19:

Morenito If there were any doubts about the subordinate relationship, the fact that Morenito is climbing up the ladder from his diplomatic post to the IDB should give you a hint. He's been working for the man all along. Can you imagine a high-level US ambassador to, say, Riyadh, lobbying for a top job in OPEC ('cause we know who's runnin the store at IDB, right)? Wouldn't that make you wonder who is he working for? I forgot, these are the times when "conflict of interest" is a pinko America-hater Freedom-hater Democracy-hater blablabla-hater phrase.

I mean, c'mon, you've seen how the Colombian government reacts when even a second-tier American representative comes to Colombia. It's like the boss visiting the factory. Everyone! Look busy!

The least they could do is treat the bastards with some dignity when they go to Washington to present their reports, no?

"El que a hierro mata..."

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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platano says on Jun 4, 2005, 12:45:

About that Norm Coleman visit... The United States Embassy in Bogota issued a "comunicado"

Plátano, el banano verde
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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Inti´illapha says on Jun 5, 2005, 19:07:

you have to expect to be treated rudely when entering the USA.
Thats just the prejudice which is still rampant in those rogue we know it all better countries.
Recommend: dont travel to the USA

Rimini, Llagta, rimini may carupi causangapa; Mana quiquin Llagtashina cuyanguichu runataca.

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juancegomez says on Jun 5, 2005, 21:15:

While I wouldn't put it in quite the words the previous poster used, and this is obviously slightly off topic by now...I must admit that I did shave my beard (surprise!) when travelling to the U.S.. a year and a half ago (first time since 9/11), because I was afraid of being mistaken for an Arab or Muslim and therefore suffering from a potentially extra degree of scrutinity (and who knows what else).

Mrs. Barco probably expected to be treated like she and other diplomats have been treated in previous trips and/or in other locations around the world, so was suprised by the sudden "status indifference" implemented by U.S. authorities.

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 5, 2005, 21:42:

I agree, don't travel to the US. We're rude and obnoxious. Just stay home or visit some other country.

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