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Rribe indicates he may seek third term in 2010

Miami Herald Colombia/Politics
BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) President Alvara Uribe gave the strongest indication yet he may seek an unprecedented third term in 2010, telling political allies in a private meeting he would consider running for reelection if it could prevent catastrophe.
Since winning a second term last year, the popular concervative leader has dodged questions about his political future, even as members of his majority coalition in congress have begun to lobby for his candidacy in 2010.
In talks at the presidential palace Wednesday, Uribe told lawmakers he'd seek reelection if a "hecatomb" or great slaughter or tragedy occured, said Nancy Patricia Gutierrez, the president of the congress, lower house who attended the meeting speaking to local media. Gutierrez said Uribe gave no further details.
Uribe spokesman Cesar Mauricio Velazquez said the president would not comment on private discussion.
Political opponents have called on Uribe to unambiguously reject seeking a third term.It is not a good idea for someone to perpetuate themselves eternally in power, said Jose Gregorio Hernandez,a former member of Colombia's Constitutional Court. A 2004 constitutional amendment enabled Uribe to seek a second term last year, and he won by a landslide.
With the economy growing at it's fastest pace in decades, and kidnappings and homicides sharply down from record levels, more than half of Colombians want Uribe to remain in office beyond 2010, an August poll by Bogota's National Consulting Center showed.
Legislators would have to amend the constitution again to allow him an additional four year term.

By b bruce on Nov 2, 2007, 11:08 in Politics & the war. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


Sr Tertius says on Nov 4, 2007, 13:15:

I just finished watching "The Fall of Fujimori." The resemblance of Fujimori's and Uribe's rise in popularity and power is astounding. I hope we don't repeat with Uribe the mistakes that the Peruvians made with "El Chino."

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

Sr Tertius says on Nov 4, 2007, 19:36:

Couldn't say it more precisely:

¿HACIA DÓNDE VAMOS?

Lo Fujimori de Uribe

María Jimena Duzán. Columnista de EL TIEMPO.

Por primera vez en la historia reciente un Presidente se niega a reconocer el triunfo electoral de sus oponentes. Y al otro día, en un hecho sin precedentes, un número importante de candidatos perdedores salieron a hacer lo mismo: en 44 municipios se registraron asonadas electorales y se quemaron urnas de la Registraduría, como en los tiempos de la Violencia.

Como si esto no fuera ya alarmante, hay otro hecho, inadvertido también, que sorprende: sucede que las protestas fueron provocadas en su gran mayoría por disputas entre miembros de la coalición uribista, con lo cual se demuestra lo cerca que el uribismo está de la hecatombe.

Y mientras todo esto sucede, H.H., un tenebroso paramilitar, confiesa que solía montar a sus víctimas en un carro de la muerte por todo el Urabá antioqueño y que, por esa vía, asesinó a 1.500 colombianos. ¡Y sus declaraciones no estremecen a nadie! Y no estremecen a nadie porque buena parte del país sigue enfrascado en dilucidar qué fue lo que quiso decir el Presidente cuando habló de reelección o hecatombe. Como vamos, no vamos bien. ¿Hacia dónde vamos realmente?

Difícil saberlo a ciencia cierta. Lo que sí es evidente es que el camino que estamos transitando es muy parecido al que recorrió el Perú bajo Fujimori en sus largos años de mandato. Fujimori alcanzó su primera reelección gracias a la popularidad derivada de sus triunfos contra Sendero Luminoso, conseguidos de la mano de una recuperación económica. Su emblema fue la foto de Abimael Guzmán enjaulado y vestido con camiseta de presidiario.

Sin embargo, su segunda reelección fue forzada y aparatosa, porque estuvo concebida como una fórmula para neutralizar desde el poder la tracalada de investigaciones que ya se le venían encima por cuenta de las andanzas de su mano derecha, el temible y corrupto Vladimiro Montesinos. Una cosa era recibir toda esta agua sucia fuera del poder, y otra, desde el solio presidencial. Sin embargo, como ocurre con todo lo que comienza mal y termina mal, Fujimori se cayó al empezar su tercer mandato.

Evidentemente, Uribe no tiene a ningún Montesinos en la nómina, a Dios Gracias. Pero, en cambio, sí tiene a cerca de 40 congresistas uribistas investigados por sus vínculos con los 'paras', entre los que descuella nadie más ni nadie menos que su primo, el hasta hace poco senador Mario Uribe. Y fue precisamente a los pocos días de que la Corte Suprema anunciara el llamado a indagatoria del ex senador -en el preciso momento en que el Presidente acusaba a la Corte y al magistrado auxiliar Iván Velásquez, cerebro de la investigación sobre la 'parapolítica' de inventarse un proceso en su contra, que solo existió en las mentes de Palacio- que el partido de la U decidió proponer la reelección de Uribe, vía referendo. Cómo caería de mal la cosa, que a muchos de los uribistas que abrazaron con júbilo la idea de un tercer mandato de Uribe les pareció inoportuna.

Desde entonces, el Presidente se ha dedicado a impulsar la idea y a promoverla y nos tiene a todos pendientes de él y sus designios. Bajo Uribe, la política en Colombia se ha vuelto relativamente previsible, porque se ha reducido a eso: a mirar al Presidente. A mirarlo cómo come, cómo agita sus manos en los consejos comunales, cómo se enfurece, cómo se le brotan sus sienes y cómo alza a los niños a su paso, como si fuera sor Teresa de Calcuta.

Mientras tanto, en la trastienda, la noticia de que el nombre del magistrado auxiliar Iván Velásquez fue sacado por el Consejo Superior de la Judicatura de la terna para ocupar una vacante en la Corte Suprema pasó inadvertida, como pasan tantas cosas en este país.

Dirán que se trata de otro triunfo de Uribe en su pelea con la Corte Suprema. Otros dirán que para eso es el poder. Y no les falta razón: ... en esos casos, como diría Fujimori, es mejor ser presidente que ex presidente.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

goin_south says on Nov 4, 2007, 19:48:

""""Uribe told lawmakers he'd seek reelection if a "hecatomb" or great slaughter or tragedy occured,.."""""
.......
............WTF is he talking about?
.....................what's a...hecatomb, or, what 'great slaughter or tragedy' might he be talking about???

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Sr Tertius says on Nov 4, 2007, 21:29:

Lot's of talk about that shit in the media. Apparently a hecatomb is the ritual slaughter of 400 cows, or the absence of a single cow who would run as a unity candidate to replace Uribe. Plenty of cows, maybe 400, and all of them want to be the next Uribe.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

Chelesupercono says on Nov 5, 2007, 05:48:

VIVA URIBE.....two more terms please!!!!

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

juancegomez says on Nov 5, 2007, 10:12:

SrTertius: I can see some similarities, but I don't think Uribe is, say, just a clone of Fujimori, destined to rise and fall in exactly the same way. Colombia isn't Peru and Fujimori isn't Uribe.

I don't know enough about Peruvian internal politics to make a proper comparison, yet the political landscape here seems to be more complex than that. And, for whatever it may be worth, Uribe himself is a different person, with his own thoughts and responsible for his own choices. He has to make the choice, rhetoric aside, when the time comes. Other than that, it's all just talk.

On the other hand, I do believe that the "hecatombe", while ambiguous, may have more to do with the absence of a unified pro-Uribe candidacy in 2010.

But even this latest announcement does not automatically lead to a third term.

ColombianoGringo says on Nov 5, 2007, 10:47:

I was about to mention that same editorial in El Tiempo., then I saw ST's post.

BTW Sr Tertius, love the avatar.

kalder says on Nov 5, 2007, 10:49:

Thing about politicians is- they're all a bunch of villains. You don't vote for the best one, you vote for the least awful. Which, to my mind and my working class Colombian in-laws, is Sr. Uribe. So let him have his other term.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

Sr Tertius says on Nov 5, 2007, 17:22:

Thanks CG. I found this one too.

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Che is sooo 90s. Don Ramón is the working-class hero of the new millenium!

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

Tinto (Moderator) says on Nov 5, 2007, 17:28:

Now we just need some red and black Subcomandante Marcos iconography, but it has to include a ski mask and a pipe.

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