ROBBED AT KNIFE POINT IN BOGOTA! THIS COUNTRY IS DANGEROUS!!

tejasmarcos says on Jun 26, 2008, 19:39:

hmmmmm. i have seen virtually no violence here in mde. i guess it is to be expected somewhat in a city of 8 million though???

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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billyb says on Jun 26, 2008, 19:40:

I thought people warned you that you had to be careful, but you dismissed them because you guys were the karate kids?

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 26, 2008, 19:40:

billy - ice is a karate dude?

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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billyb says on Jun 26, 2008, 19:43:

ice says on May 27, 2008, 18:08: flag

Quote: "black belts in tae kwon do - big deal down here (no offense meant)"

oh yeah? you want to go at it big boy?

ice


papiChulo says on May 27, 2008, 18:28: flag

ice...LOL

I think it was meant that some colombians like to end a fight with a gun... hehehe

“Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink...?- Charles Bukowski

ice says on May 27, 2008, 21:03: flag

guns are for sissy's!

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george jung says on Jun 26, 2008, 19:44:

Wow, Ice get ready for the abuse, you can not talk bad about crime in Colombia or you will end up like a former GIB. Be prepped for being raked across the coals. I hope you have thick skin, as the hard core no-life troll smashers come out, good luck

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble"

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billyb says on Jun 26, 2008, 19:54:

looks like bitter georgie is out and about.

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Lisa Zee says on Jun 26, 2008, 20:05:

Maybe you were giving "PAPAYA"

Feliz Navidad!

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IloveCidy says on Jun 26, 2008, 20:22:

You shoved somebody with a knife to your neck? I find your story incredible.

I miss my novia!

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gorgonabob says on Jun 26, 2008, 20:30:

what a muppet

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durito says on Jun 26, 2008, 20:35:

bogota is generally a safer city than quito for a traveler

people are robbed all over the world every day

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Nucknfuts says on Jun 26, 2008, 20:40:

So your telling people don't go to Bogota it's too dangerous.
Go to Quito insted.

So ( The BIG question is ) how soon are you packing your bags and heading south ????????

Please let us know what your plans are now ....

The Nuck

You are never lost, unless you don't want to be where your at.

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webmanco says on Jun 26, 2008, 21:05:

Viva Colombia Carajo !

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Alma del Norte says on Jun 26, 2008, 21:17:

"YES we were all unanimous. AND Yes we know that Colombia is a dangerous place to visit! We are all Black Belts in Tae Kwon Do, Speak perfect spanish and (i think i said this) have been all over the world (42 countries) including some other very dangerous places like Morroco (Especially because we are missionaries), Guatemala < every day there were bodies in the street and major crime on the news and panama city slums. Some parts of LA are'nt too great either. I think staying safe is all about common sense (ironic how it's not so common these days) Being smart and staying out of trouble! "

They say pride comes before a fall - lol!!! Frankly folks, algo huele.

La vida es una rutina

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Sam Salmon says on Jun 26, 2008, 21:58:

"Bogotá is generally a safer city than Quito for a traveler....people are robbed all over the world every day"

Been to both Quito and Bogotá and I have to say that Quito is a lot scarier/more dangerous.

Also I have a feeling some English speaking punk read ICE's garbage he's been posting-not just on this forum but others as well-and decided to teach him a lesson.


"You shoved somebody with a knife to your neck?"

Sounds like pendejada to me too.

' a la orden!'

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Alma del Norte says on Jun 26, 2008, 22:15:

Webby!!! Ice stole your foto - sue!

La vida es una rutina

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Cheers Terry says on Jun 27, 2008, 00:03:

Don't mess with The Ice.

Cheers,
Terry

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viajero123 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 27, 2008, 01:33:

Liam101 says on Jun 27, 2008, 01:58:

What 3 people had a knife to your neck and you managed to escape? No self-respecting criminal or gang memeber in London or NYC would ever let that happen. There's crime in every country (read any newspaper in any language in any country for eg of that) but it sounds to me that the criminals in Bogota are softer and easier to escape from than most. Stay in Bogota, keep fit, and it seems like you'll be safer than in most places.

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thur says on Jun 27, 2008, 02:33:

Unfortunate incident. You shouldn't, however, generalise the country or the city... or its people as a matter of fact based on such an event. Robbers are everywhere and it could have happened anywhere. It's a question of being at the wrong place at the wrong time and with the unlucky addition of having these three individuals near as well.
At what time and -more importantly- where did this happen? Bogotá has many streets/areas where one must always be vigilant, especially after sunset.
Good luck and thanks for sharing (please try not to generalise next time).
[edit: if there is such a next time of course, oops!]
Greetings,

- pbase.com/thur

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roloenNJ says on Jun 27, 2008, 04:37:

There is crime and drugs in NYC and NJ please dont come around here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU can go to Quito and stay there!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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webmanco says on Jun 27, 2008, 04:43:

Welcome to Colombia ICE pero ParaQuito eso si que no

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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mimimimimi says on Jun 27, 2008, 04:46:

thats why i rather not to go back to my own country, it stresses me out everytime, last time i went had to change prior to travel my htc p3300 cellphone (guess costs around 2 million pesos an things like that qualifies for loosing your life downthere) for a nokia a cheap one and yes sadly i got high chances to get kidnapped just because i got a decent life abroad and not by farc or anything but for normal criminals that are used to extortion people all around, seems like is a sin to have some money downthere, guess at times criminals feels the right to take everything away from you just because you are doing good ...

haha but i got a good story to tell here in the same bogota downtown ,the first and last time my husband went to colombia we were walking towards the museum in the 7 avenue and my husband wanted to take pics ,i said no way, they will see the camera and will come after us but he got stubborn and i said ok take just one. Im always aware of everything like a paranoic mouse i immediately saw this guy holding a baby that stare at us and chased us for 3 blocks i got my eyes constantly on him so he knew i was aware and didnt approach ,I took a taxi and went straight to the hotel....

Is million times better to stay away than to loose your freedom or get stabbed by those crazy people...
colombia is getting even worst by the day just look at the statistics and no i dont wanna be a part of those noooo way...

i love my country too bad that is way too crazy, if you want to go to south america i recommend panama .ooh what a paradise for traveling no worries at all ,honest people wherever i went and you can actually enjoy nature and ecological paths with no worries haha just avoid the border with colombia that is the most dangerous spot in whole panama .

THUR: believe me a robbery of that kind is weird uphere ,at least if someone gets stabbed it gets to the news and is usually because of fighting, we always say is normal when you live in colombia but for some parts of the world to be attacked by 3 with knives and people being indifferent all around aint normal.

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webmanco says on Jun 27, 2008, 04:55:

Mimimimimmi I see you got a chip on your shoulder when the word Colombia is mentioned. I don´t believe everything I read, I do know Colombia is not safe heaven but also I know many people with good money living and enjoying nature, ecological paths and else, right here in Colombia, without critizicing or having to travel abroad for "security reasons" I also know people with sad historys in Colombia but somehow manage to keep going on without hate or resentments.

Regarding the Candelaria history I don´t believe it, it is like the guy who got beating in a fight againsg a handicap person, then goes home and said he was beating by a gang

S..t happens anywhere, maybe more often in developing countries, but still you might get up with the wrong foot even in WonderLand and all of a sudden find misfortune.

2004

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article841240.ece

Stabbing spree stuns Oslo
At least six persons were stabbed late Tuesday afternoon both on and near one of the city's public transit trams as it rolled through the Bislett area of Oslo. One of the victims died of the stab wounds, while at least one other was seriously injured.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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mimimimimi says on Jun 27, 2008, 05:06:

OK that happened 4 years ago and of course had to be an african, they come here seeking asylum claiming being the victims and stab ,steal and rape ...buuuut not every african is bad i study with really nice africans from rwanda,somalia and congo as well.

Also lots of people from the baltic ,poland and many eastern european countries comes here to steal and pickpocketing as well as the girls fills the street being prostitues ,oslo sucks haha i live far far away ...

show me one crime incident that involves actual norwegians and no african or middle east people.., and in sweden they have this big trouble of middle east muslims raping like crazy blonde girls...theres political parties here that want to close the borders because of it buuut that would be racism so cannot be done
baaaah they come straight ffrom really crazy countries with no laws or goverments what do you expect ?,they are crazy too

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Rikito says on Jun 27, 2008, 05:07:

Rubito is spot on with his comments. Why pick on Bogotá anyway? Either you are just trying to stir things up or you have never been in another city except Bogota or, you are really stupid. Any large city in any country is going to have crime problems...some worse than others. If you walk around looking for trouble like being well dresses, talking about money on the street, counting money in public, or acting like the "Ugly American" than you deserve what you get. When I first came to Bogotá, I listen to my novia (now wife) about how to be cautious...thus far I have never had one iota of a problem. I have gone to many places in Bogotá and other cities and no one has ever threatened me in any way and I have never felt that I was ever in danger. Want danger my friend? Go to Detroit anytime, any day and you will find danger.

During the first Gulf War in Iraq a newspaper reporter was in a firefight with some of the U.S. soldiers. During a lull in the action he asked the soldier how things were going. The soldier responded, "Hell there is more action than this in Newark, N.J. on a Saturday night than here. The one city that I have never felt safe in is Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The police are more criminal than the criminals.

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Rikito says on Jun 27, 2008, 05:09:

I just read your profile and now I understand...you have never gone anywhere have you? Stay close to the computer now.

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Cerealkiller says on Jun 27, 2008, 05:52:

I also thought the story was something only a Pow Wow kind of character would come up with. I have faced a bunch of really uncomfortable situations in Bogota: Being mugged, being followed and harassed by a cop, having my car vandalized...but I am aware this sort of crap happens everywhere and I still get pretty excited every time I travel to Bogota. And that is not just because I lived in Bogota for many years. My bf and best friend (very obvious American and British, respectively) came to Bogota and we planned on going to the Museo Nacional, so off we go on a weekday after brunch and as we walk from parking place by Plaza de Toros we are ambushed by two hobos (proper hobos, dressed in rags and sniffing glue)...it was a very unfortunate experience involving a lot of bad words, spit etc etc...but BF is always eager to go back to Colombia and best friend thought it was the nicest country out of his 4 country trip through Latin America.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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elmodefoque says on Jun 27, 2008, 05:55:

robbed in bogota, no fokin wayyyyyy.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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huskie says on Jun 27, 2008, 05:57:

I think mimimimi is a little paranoid about Colombia and that is why she gets into trouble when she goes there, stay in Norway and never look back. Maybe you should start your own site named "Colombia Haters" and do not post your negative comments here especially if your are Colombian!!!!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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mimimimimi says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:01:

hihi nah im planning to go to japan soon,i hate to be here all the time it wouldnt be much fun..I do travel a lot from here !!! love to meet other cultures and I do prefer organized places thats just me

somehow aint negative comments is just reality but yes im paranoic and is accepted but that got me out of trouble!,

I dont hate colombia ..im just scare of it ,and that huskie is two different things..

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huskie says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:10:

Your comments are extremely negative, what are you scared of?
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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billyb says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:20:

"colombia is getting even worst by the day just look at the statistics and no i dont wanna be a part of those noooo way..."

What the fok are you talkng about? Show us some stats that back that up. Even the most anti-uribe moron on here (no names jejej) wouldn't back you up on that one. Better that you stay up there in the north pole.

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huskie says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:26:

She is probably scared of her own devil...(worshiper)?
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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Nucknfuts says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:36:

Yes, crime happens most everywhere and it will get worse if things get worse.
In the words of Livingstone Bramble befor he took the title away from Ray Mancini
( Said in a Jamician type accent, he's from Saint Croix)

" A hungary Man is a dangerous Man"

He fought the most dirty fight I have ever seen and won .

Tha Nuck

You are never lost, unless you don't want to be where your at.

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rhydewithdis (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:57:

elk says on Jun 27, 2008, 07:02:

It can happen anywhere...even in Sabaneta (Medellin)

I know a female Colombiana, here in Sabaneta, who was robbed by two young men with knives just two days ago. It happened on main street at 10:00 AM in front hundreds of people.

She is poor and sells lottery tickets on the street. They took everything.
I will be more careful in the future with the local ATM machines and my personal security in general. Locals tell me the problem isn't the local people, but rather strangers from outside of Sabaneta.

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jake074701 says on Jun 27, 2008, 07:39:

Ice, keep on posting how rough/horror stories about Colombia is, that will keep those scared gringos from coming turning Colombia into ex-pats USA countries like Costa Rico and Panama in the future. Some people do not understand that quick reflexes and thinking can save you, as alot of these posters have lost those God givin talents. Keep up the good work

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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sloopskipper says on Jun 27, 2008, 07:42:

A young friend returned home from Panamá, for a family visit in Cali, about two months ago. He and his best friend took a bus to Medellin, and were attacked by two thugs very near one of the big shopping centers (a good neighborhood, I understand).

They tried to steal the backpacks, but my friend punched one in the nose, but got his broken in the process (which resulted in 2,000,000 COP medical bill).

The police came, but of course the bad guys ran away.

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HolandaPaisa says on Jun 27, 2008, 08:09:

I had the same problem in Bogota in la Candelaria at night. I was almost robbed at a knife point and my friend was indeed robbed. I do feel Bogota is more dangerous than most other places but what do you want with such a big city. I have lived in Medellin for over 2 years and never felt unsafe but off course shit happens here as well.

Everyone should be aware that la candelaria is not the safest place especially after 11.00 pm. Better to take a cab but I was just 2 blocks from the hostel and thought it was stupid to take a cab for just a few blocks. It happened on the street of Platypus, 300 meters from the entrance. I have been there a couple of times and never took cabs and also walked around after 11.00 pm. Yes this time I was drunk and didn't pay attention so I guess I was giving papaya....

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durito says on Jun 27, 2008, 08:15:

Safety is also a relative issue and people always associate with it personal experience rather than general statistics.

IE, all over the internet you will find people saying things like: "I did/went to place xyz with no problems, thus xyz is safe" Never mind xyz may actually be one of the more dangerous places on earth"

Everyday all over the world people visit and live in dangerous places without anything happening to them. At the same time people are victims of crime in places everyone considers safe.

If you are well informed about what you are doing and know how to handle yourself you can reduce your risks -- but sometimes people are just unlucky and happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Mononoke28 says on Jun 27, 2008, 09:02:

I live in a very nice and safe part of town here in Denver and a few years ago I was robbed in the parking lot of our local grocery store. It just happened, three broke, punks, not much older than 20 decided to rob the "rich" lady walking alone in the parking lot. Now, that's not going to make me think that it's a dangerous place.

Cry me a river because there's crime eveywhere, get over it!

Diana

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jonas says on Jun 27, 2008, 11:33:

you are painting a picture that looks like if the security situation (especially in the Candelaria) would be worsening. This is so NOT true. Go a few years back, 4 years ago it was a lot more dangerous than today and 8 years ago it was quite scary. The situation has improved lots - but this doesn`t make it a safe place.
And Quito certainly has a lot more crime than Bogota! No doubt!
How many times do you hear of people getting robbed at knife point in Bogota? Very rarely.
In Quito every other traveller gets robbed, especially in la Mariscal.

Mi alma se la dejo al diablo

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jun 27, 2008, 11:38:

This entire post is BS.

I'm starting to think Ice is someone old poster's new pet troll.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 27, 2008, 13:01:

I hear you, Mr. Hollywood.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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muddie says on Jun 27, 2008, 13:22:

sounds like some areas of medellin, places you would not want to be in after dark, and some places, even in the day.

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billyb says on Jun 27, 2008, 13:27:

But you could say that about any place on earth.

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Bellita says on Jun 27, 2008, 14:29:

I also think his post is BS.

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 27, 2008, 15:00:

go to south dallas somewhere off zang blvd and they'll rip the chain off your neck right after they knife you for your air jordans....

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Nucknfuts says on Jun 27, 2008, 15:07:

I'm ((((((( SCARED ))))))))
and I want my Mommy....

The Nuck

You are never lost, unless you don't want to be where your at.

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lpdiver says on Jun 28, 2008, 03:56:

yawn...lost nothing and spilled not a drop of blood.

ts

"cook some rice!"

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Sam Salmon says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:25:

I read on the Lonely Planet Thorn Tree that La Candelaria was the nicest part of Bogotá and completely safe-so it must be true.

BTW-I've seen ICE posting over on Traveller's Point and it was me that told him to check out this site so he is the real thing, that is to say a bone fide idiot of the first order.

' a la orden!'

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Catfish35 says on Jun 28, 2008, 15:28:

I think someone needs a hug.......

"So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade

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Saltador says on Jun 28, 2008, 17:33:

rhydewithdis says on Jun 27, 2008, 06:57: flag

Sry to hear what happened to you. Honestly though, they way I see these overweight gringo sex tourists wandering around here, completely aimless, drunk beyond belief thinking this is Disney World, need a wake up call and something like this to happen to a few of them so they realize that this ain't Kansas.

rhydewithdis I call Bullshit on this post. You are perpetuating a tired stereotype and I'll wager you've never seen ONE such person as you described in this paragraph. I've been to Colombia more than 15 times and myself have never seen one, and that includes cartegana in the areas most frequented by us pasty white, bald, fat, only english speaking, socks/sandles/shorts wearing sex tourists.
Get real...

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MaFe says on Jun 28, 2008, 17:53:

I guess Colombia is the only place that has robbers, and crime?

(I am being sarcastic!)

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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derailment says on Jun 29, 2008, 09:35:

ok so you and your brother are 6 feet tall, and plenty strong, i'm sorry but what about that dumb look on your face when young punks aren't "afraid"of you. like other members have said use your common sense if you aren't sure what it is look it up . .don;t just venture out on the streets looking like a tourist

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ice says on Jun 30, 2008, 16:40:

Oh boy,
I was afraid this might happen. I was not intending in any way to knock this country. Of the forty countries I have been to it is probably my favorite. In all honesty my motive was to keep information circulating about the danger in Colombia so as to scare off any potential tourist deciding wether or not to come. I know that when I was deciding wether or not to come here something like this may have influenced me. Stupid, I know. But I figured I might as well try. I am disapointed that no one figured it out. Why else would I right a title so silly sounding.
I actually have no idea if Quito is safer or not. I just came back from a few days there and it was already corrupted by tons of tourist. I figured a few more couldnt hurt.
About the incedent. Wasnt really any big deal, the kids were really timid (thank God). I know that it was extremely stupid on my part. I should have never been there at that time. I was glad to get away with out losing anything. What surprised me was how well dressed the kids were. Some one later told me there is a gang that runs that area and robs people all the time there. I wasnt really surpised other than that. You do stupid things, bad stuff happens. I learned a good lesson. people can tell you all the time to be careful, "its dangerous" but its another story when it happens to you. I dont think that Bogota is any more dangerous than any where else Ive been. Every huge city like this has its dangerous places. Its up to you to be careful and not go wandering around at night on back allys. DUH!
Its hard for me to say the exact area because I dont know the city that well yet. It was like behind Hotel avenida Jiminez (in the travel guide) about 6-7 blocks. Just south of The University of the Andes, about five blocks. It happened right near the soccer park where alot of young guys hang out. It was about 8:45 at night.
For the record I love this coutry. It is amazing in so many ways. The neighboring countrys (Ecuador and Venezula) are nothing like it. Dont even compare. It is one of the few latin countrys that embasses its own culture and doesnt just look to the USA for an Identity. (that is of the ones I've been to.)

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ice says on Jun 30, 2008, 17:36:

oops! I didnt read everyones posts before replying.

apperently some one did get it!! way to go
"Ice, keep on posting how rough/horror stories about Colombia is, that will keep those scared gringos from coming turning Colombia into ex-pats USA countries like Costa Rico and Panama in the future. Some people do not understand that quick reflexes and thinking can save you, as alot of these posters have lost those God givin talents. Keep up the good work" -Quote jake074701
Everyone else that says Im an idiot. give me a break Im learning. we all do stupid stuff.

ice

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goin_south says on Jun 30, 2008, 18:05:

I was robbed at pencil point in a school book store here a couple of _ _ ago.

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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poco says on Jun 30, 2008, 18:48:

Rubito Quote: Bigger cities do NOT necessarily have more crime rates. That is just a stupid silly myth. The most dangerous cities in Colombia are generally the SMALLER ones (Cali excepted).
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Nope,, not true. Only one person has been killed in the last 6 years that DID NOT DESERVE TO BE Killed. One,, yep,, one in the small town where I live.

Colombia does not have a legal death penalty,, but they sure as hell have an unofficial penalty.

There are almost NO robberies. Who would rob someone in a small town ? Where would they come from ? Everyone knows everyone else. There are folks watching the bus terminal and incoming highways. Should a stranger show up he is a known of almost immediately. New car in town,, ha,, does anything think people don't notice and talk about it ?

Don't bother other folks and you won't have a problem. Be an asshole,, especially a foreign asshole,, well,, you will be asked to leave town and if you're smart,, you leave,, that day. PS: there are NO foreigners (especially Canadian dopers) in town and I doubt there will ever be one that stays for over a few days.

Don't pay your debts,, screw around with someones amante (wives are probably OK),, you will have a problem,,, cheat at gambling and you will be more than likely be killed or at least an attempted killing.

Gay and screw around with kids,, yep,, death sentence more than likely,, especially if KY jelly isn't used,, priests do not have immunity from this death penalty.

Sorry,, but it really is quite peaceful,,, I can,, and do go into all parts of town. I'm rehabing an estrato one house now,, I'm there every day and leave my tools every night,, oh,, get involved with the drug trade,, more than likely a death sentence.

The list goes on,,, far as I'm concerned any of those killed aren’t missed,, only a topic of conversation.

Last night someone hacked a drunken asshole to death with a machete. Yes,, he as an obnoxious asshole,, probably got drunk and threatened the wrong person. Amazing,, he walked almost two blocks from the place he was hacked,, missing one hand and his throat cut,, damn,, those drunks can take a lick'n and keep on tick'n.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." Quote - General Tommy Franks

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adrimm (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 1, 2008, 16:55:

Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 1, 2008, 16:57:

Black Belt missionaries???

It must be the Church of Chuck Norris.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jul 2, 2008, 02:40:

so far 17 youth have been killed at knife point in London in the last couple of moths, that city is becoming extremely dangerous! what do you think?

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durito says on Jul 2, 2008, 08:00:

¨Its hard for me to say the exact area because I dont know the city that well yet. It was like behind Hotel avenida Jiminez (in the travel guide) about 6-7 blocks. Just south of The University of the Andes, about five blocks. It happened right near the soccer park where alot of young guys hang out. It was about 8:45 at night. ¨

This is still a relatively dangerous part of town after dark. Travelers have been robbed arround there fairly often for years. It´s safer than the mariscal in quito though. Be careful and you should be fine though.

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kalder says on Jul 2, 2008, 08:11:

Make that 18 Kat- a young woman was stabbed to death outside a supermarket in Peckham last night.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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kalder says on Jul 2, 2008, 09:50:

It is. But it used to be exceedingly safe. And losing that halcyon state through nothing more than political weakness is making us very angry indeed.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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adrimm (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 2, 2008, 17:46:

docwilliam - I suspect ice is failing to mention he was likely preaching/missionarying to large groups. Check past comments and this was supposedly Ice's purpose in Colombia: http://poorbuthappy.com/ice/posts/

I don't care where you are in the world, drawing attention to yourself will get you a different kind of treatment to what a normal low key traveller or even resident gets.

I don't feel Ice's incident has strong relevance to most travellers or foreigners living in Bogota.

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ice says on Jul 5, 2008, 11:28:

Actually it was completely unrelated to anything else I do. I was out for a run (walking at the time). It was like the third day here.
And no, I am not with holding any information. It was surprising to me too that that would come up to us. All I can think is that they must have been extremely dedperate or maybe drugs? They just ran up from behind us and stuck the knives against our necks. thats just kinda what happened we didint really 'let' them.

ice

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mimimimimi says on Jul 6, 2008, 07:34:

probably they saw you from far away and been following for a while ,that happened many times to me and my husband the one time we went there, I mean he attracted them with his nordic looks anyways ,meanwhile he relaxes and walks i keep on looking around to see if someone is following like this little bodyguard ahah but it worked we get away many times...

no colombia for me and him ANYMORE is over

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durito says on Jul 6, 2008, 08:35:

i just spent a great week in bogota without a single issue.

i must be really lucky ;)

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goin_south says on Jul 6, 2008, 09:56:

in two trips there.... I got pierced by the rain

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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MaFe says on Jul 6, 2008, 13:02:

goin_south says on Jul 6 (today): flag

in two trips there.... I got pierced by the rain

jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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goin_south says on Jul 6, 2008, 13:26:

I was also flat on my back a few times.... (that I remember)

Why Not Colombia?..........Stay Tuned, for more.... utterly worthless, self-indulgent gobbets of nonsense.

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MaFe says on Jul 6, 2008, 13:42:

JA JA GS....I hope that rain didn't scar you.,..
were you flat on your back because of the rain...je je je

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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