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Rentista Visa/I just want to be sure...

Before I head off to Panama to apply for my Rentista Visa for Colombia I want to make sure that everything will go smoothly. My burning question is this... I have a letter from my bank in the States (Vanguard) that states I have $24,743 in a money market account. I had this notarized and then apostilled in my home state of Washington and then sent to me here in Colombia. Does the translation need to be sent back to the states to then be notarized and apostilled? I know it is a knit picky question but I really don't want to fly to Panama in vain. Basically, does the Spanish translation have to be notarized and apostilled? Does it have to be an official translation or can a capable, trustworthy friend do it? Has anyone been to Panama in 2007 to apply for this visa? How long does it take? Thanks, any ides/suggestions/experiences would be helpful?

Sebas

By Sebastian on Oct 2, 2007, 08:30 in Visa & paperwork. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


Rob77 says on Oct 2, 2007, 09:05:

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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Gator says on Oct 2, 2007, 09:17:

visa Panama or visa Colombia? Can't help with panama only to suggest a visit to the Panamanian Consulate.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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elk says on Oct 2, 2007, 09:20:

Why are you going to Panama? MRE is here in Bogota, and I'm not sure if you can do it in Panama at the Consulate. When I was in Panama and visited the Colombian consulate they knew little about the various visa for foreigners.

I think they may tell you to visit MRE in Bogota.....but not certain.

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Rob77 says on Oct 2, 2007, 09:21:

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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elk says on Oct 2, 2007, 09:23:

I think he is referring to a Colombian Visa in which case the visa can be obtained at MRE in Bogota.

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Sebastian says on Oct 2, 2007, 10:34:

I am referring to the Rentista Visa for Colombia which I understand I need $24,000 in the bank with proof (notary and apostille). Has anyone applied for this specific Visa in Panama, Cucuta or at MRE in Bogota?

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Sebastian says on Oct 2, 2007, 10:42:

By the way, isn't Cucuta in Colombia? I understand that I need to leave the country to apply for the visa. I was thinking Panama would be my best bet but I would like to speak with someone who has actually applied for the Rentista for Colombia before I spend the money and time on a flight. Sorry that I was not specific as to the country I am applying for the Visa in my first post. I definitely want to stay in Colombia for a year or two and I was thinking that the Rentista would be the best way. If I can't figure this out I'm going on Colombian Cupids...
Sebas

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 2, 2007, 10:51:

Come on guys, hasn't anyone had a document translated that can answer the basic question? I would help, but my documents were all originals produced in Colombia and no translations nor apostilles were necessary.

I applied for the business owner visa in Panama. Officially it takes three days to process that visa. If you have a good relationship with the people at the consulate, it can sometimes be done while you wait.

I would be curious to know about the $24,000 dollar rentista thing too. There's nothing I can see in the MRE law about this amount. But I have heard rumours that it works. Please check back in and confirm how you went.

If you already have a valid visa (true long stay visa, not tourist visa), you can apply in Bogota at MRE. Certain visas (spouse, student...) can be applied for in Bogota even if you don't already have a valid visa. But most of them, you need to leave Colombia and apply outside the country, if you only currently have a tourist visa. I am pretty sure off the top of my head you need to apply for the rentista visa outside Colombia.

que nota!

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Rob77 says on Oct 2, 2007, 11:13:

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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Sebastian says on Oct 2, 2007, 12:12:

Rob, you are right about the $$ earned from the money market. I have seen it mentioned on this site that several people in Colombia have received this particular Visa. Tomtom mentioned that he recieved the Rentista at the Colombian Consulate in Chicago by showing $24,000 in a money market with a letter, apostille, translation, etc. But that was a few years ago. I was wondering if anyone has recieved this Visa from the Colombian Consulate in Panama recently?

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Rob77 says on Oct 2, 2007, 12:28:

We need someone with lots of visa experience to interpret the Rentista requirement I quoted here and see if they read it differently. Another possibility is that the 10 x minimum salary refers to the daily minimum insteda of the monthly minimum, but I doubt they would require so little income. That would come to just $75 dollars monthly.

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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Saltador says on Oct 2, 2007, 13:12:

I have a rentista visa, applied for and obtained (twice) in Chicago USA.
I had to show my monthly income, so I believe the interpretation above by Rob77 is correct.
I had my documents transalted by a bi-lingual friend, there was no great importance for them to be officially or exactly translated. I did however have the spanish versions apostilled. I think all together it was 4 documents apostilled and notarized.
Hope this helps.

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Gator says on Oct 2, 2007, 13:44:

MRE, Bogotá says:(http://www.cancilleria.gov.co/wps/portal click trámites then visas). NEVER, NEVER, NEVER make any trip to renew, or obtain a visa without calling first to determine what that want-especially at a consulate outside of Colombia.

It is my understanding that this type of visa requires a guaranteed monthly income not a lump sum. Reason? The lump sum could be spent on a car, booze, çhicas, etc., and be gone in a month. Well you get the idea behind this reasoning..

These FIRST time applications can be made in Bogotá:

Padre o Madre de nacional Colombiano; Cónyuge o Compañero (a) Permanente de Nacional Colombiano (a); Estudiante; Refugiado o Asilado, y las Especiales para Pensionados y Tratamiento Médico. Igualmente, se pueden solicitar las visas de Negocios y Beneficiario dentro del territorio nacional.

SECOND Nota: Las demás visas temporales deberán ser solicitadas en los consulados de Colombia en el exterior (No necesariamente en el país de origen del extranjero).
Other temporary visas will have to be requested for at a Colombian Consulate in the exteriors outside Colombia(Not necessarily in the country of origin of the foreigner).

Requisitos necesarios para el trámite
Ser extranjero, o nacional colombiano autorizado legalmente para realizar el trámite a nombre del extranjero ante la oficina de la Coordinación del Grupo de Visas e Inmigración.

Únicamente se podrá realizar el trámite por primera vez ante la Coordinación del Grupo de Visas e Inmigración del Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores en Bogotá, en los siguientes eventos:

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Cuando el titular de visa desee prorrogar su permanencia en el territorio nacional y reúna los requisitos para la solicitar la nueva visa con antelación al vencimiento de la misma.
*

Cuando solicita por primera vez la Visa Temporal en las categorías de: Padre o Madre de nacional Colombiano; Cónyuge o Compañero (a) Permanente de Nacional Colombiano (a); Estudiante; Refugiado o Asilado, y las Especiales para Pensionados y Tratamiento Médico. Igualmente, se pueden solicitar las visas de Negocios y Beneficiario dentro del territorio nacional.

Nota: Las demás visas temporales deberán ser solicitadas en los consulados de Colombia en el exterior (No necesariamente en el país de origen del extranjero).

Cuando las disposiciones legales vigentes así lo determinen, el extranjero deberá presentar personalmente su solicitud de visa ante el Consulado de Colombia debidamente acreditado en el exterior.

No se le expedirá visa en Bogotá, al extranjero que tenga impedimento por parte de autoridad judicial; a quien se encuentre en situación migratoria irregular en el país; a quien no haya realizado nueva solicitud con antelación al vencimiento de la visa de que sea titular, luego de producirse la terminación de su visa; o por cancelación de la misma.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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gringoloid (Trustee board) says on Oct 2, 2007, 14:52:

Sebastian.....you need an attorney. I was told the fixed sum in the bank no longer works, but who knows, you hear 10 different answers to everything.

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RussianFred says on Oct 2, 2007, 18:26:

I am sorry but 24k is not much money without a source of income. Maybe you should move to Kenya, they make about $100 a month. Or even Peru!

I hope you have a steady source of income!

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

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RussianFred says on Oct 2, 2007, 20:44:

The link below has all of the different visa options with cost.
http://www.colhouston.org/english/visas.php

Annual Drug Deaths: Tobacco: 395,000, Alcohol: 125,000, 'Legal' Drugs: 38,000, Illegal Drug Overdoses: 5,200, Marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?--Ralph Nader

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jorgeaev says on Oct 10, 2007, 12:57:

I have a very good lawyer here in Colombia, send me an e-mail to jorgeaev at yahoo.es and i will give you his contact information.

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aracne says on Oct 24, 2007, 09:03:

Sebastian: I think the best way to go is to add as much documentation as possible; that way is difficult to make a mistake with colombian authorities (each one of them seems to have a different interpretation of the law). First of all, you will require to proof a monthly income of at least 10 minimum colombian wages (the current one is $433,000 COP); this kind of certification can come from your bank or any other institution but that certification will have to be notarized and apostilled. Also, any document in foreign language that has the purpose to be used before a colombian authority must be translated by an official translator (who must add a copy of his certification as such) and notarized in Colombia. Therefor, any document in Spanish must be notarized. Finally you can only apply for this kind of visa outside of the country (Panama is actually a very good option for it). Good luck with it!

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M7 says on Dec 13, 2007, 12:21:

i'm researching this also.

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