Racismo en Medellin

ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on Aug 13, 2008, 09:54:

Swinn, Is it really necessary to start several new threads for what is essentially the same topic? You have two just for Medellin. I agree that there is a lot of racism towards black people in Colombia and have no problem with you discussing it, but it would be better to have the conversation in one thread instead of spreading out over several.

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august says on Aug 13, 2008, 09:55:

Swinn, I admit that I haven´t yet had the chance to watch any of the 4 videos you posted today and yesterday and I will get to that, but I was wondering if it might be more useful in terms of sparking a constructive dialog about race relations if instead of the term "racism," one was to refer more to its manifestations. I think the term "racism" is so culturally heavy that it rarely turns into anything more than putting white people on the defensive, mostly because almost no one is going to self-apply the term. Now if you pose a theme such as "The role of skin color in applying for a job in Medellín," that´s interesting and there´s more to discuss, in my opinion. Anything with the terms "racialized" or "racial" is also much more helpful, again, in my opinion. Eitherway, thanks for keeping important topics alive.

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Swinn88 says on Aug 13, 2008, 09:59:

Sorry CG just trying to keep ourselves in the know, And yes August thats a better Approach.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on Aug 13, 2008, 10:04:

No problem Swinn. I'm in agreement on the racism issue. I think that in many ways racism towards black people can be much worse in Colombia than in the US.

BTW, please take a look at my question about your Orbitel service.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 13, 2008, 10:27:

i still remember the day i started posting here, many years ago,
nobody knew from barranquilla, imagine that chit, the most important city in colombia, the city that civilizied all them injuns in the interior and nobody here knew that.
Another most astonishing thing was racism in colombia. these people here had no idea there was racism in colombia which shocked the chit outta me,
ARE YOU FOKIN LOCO, INSANE???? colombians are one of the most racist modefoques around as bad as republicans .
We'e racist even among our own family. I had a knife fight with my own brother cus he did not iike that fact that i was injun and i did not like that modefoque cus he was white Or much ighter.
One day me and my wayuu best buddy, DANTE (feared by all colombians), beat the chit outta him.
DANTE was an evil injun loookin modefoque with dark pearcing eyes, jet straight black hair
and redish copper skin, we looked like twins and we hated blanquitos.
Funny chit, when i moved to USA most of my best friends are blanquitos.
Why do you think a guy workin in Home Depot could nailed all the medellin girls he wants, cus as a white guy, he is considered a prize a giant step up in the paisa social laddrer

thank you

I'll get there, when I get there!

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elmodefoque says on Aug 13, 2008, 10:43:

I still remember gringos and colombians defending racism.
"WHAT WE HAVE IN COLOMBIA IS NOT RACISM IS CLASSISM"
by some strange unclear reason all the blacks and injuns in colombia are dirt poor BUT NOT cus of racism.
CHITTTTTT!!! if not racism then what the fok is it???

I'll get there, when I get there!

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webmanco says on Aug 13, 2008, 10:50:

Elmo hated blanquitos(as), still does

Only Colombian

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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turnmeon says on Aug 13, 2008, 11:40:

elmo if you hate blanquitos(whiteys) then you are part of the problem because you are racit too

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on Aug 13, 2008, 11:58:

I think most people are racist or xenophobic to some degree. We are all part of the problem.

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Simon says on Aug 13, 2008, 20:09:

I think Swinn is a racist/bigot! It's obvious he hates Colombians!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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manINred says on Aug 14, 2008, 03:41:

Yes there is racism in Medellin, and unfortunately lots of it :(

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manINred says on Aug 14, 2008, 03:41:

from what i've seen that is

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webmanco says on Aug 14, 2008, 06:03:

Simon hates freedom of expression

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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billyb says on Aug 14, 2008, 06:39:

Colombia is a very racist country, that's not news. I have Spanish in-laws and they think the US is so racist (maybe it is), but they think they are not, but if you've been there, you'll notice that their racism, specially against moros and black africans, makes most of the US look like a bunch of Quakers. My point is, that every fokin country is racist and anybody that thinks otherwise is full of crap.

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toneloc24 says on Aug 14, 2008, 09:42:

Careful Billy. Simon's gonna think you hate Colombia for saying that. LOL!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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toneloc24 says on Aug 14, 2008, 10:14:

Careful Billy. Simon's gonna think you hate Colombia for saying that. LOL!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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billyb says on Aug 14, 2008, 10:29:

LOL, it's a chance i'm gonna have to take, Tone.

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Swinn88 says on Aug 14, 2008, 11:21:

Don't Hate the messenger Simon.

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mimimimimi says on Aug 14, 2008, 12:01:

fæn!!!!

theres no white people in colombia ,even Im considered kinda dark in here (norway) and " white " in colombia ...think all racists downthere doesnt realize how primitive and undeveloped is to be racist , I have studied for many years now with africans and some of them are cool funny and really nice , well some of them smell but it doesnt matter hhaha, think is very funny to see our elitists white supremacy from colombia goddamn


"""My point is, that every fokin country is racist and anybody that thinks otherwise is full of crap."""

yep theres persons in every country that are racists as hell ,thankl hell here is very low ,only thing that hurts me in every country is when people starts making jokes about cocaine when they know im colombian , kinda painful but im getting used to

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tomtom33 says on Aug 14, 2008, 12:34:

Everyone is racist. You are. I am. We all are. That is the starting point.

Then we get into degrees of racism.

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Monpirri says on Aug 14, 2008, 12:45:

Yes, I concur with Swinn88 there is racism in Medellin as well!

The life spam of a taste bud is ten days

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august says on Aug 14, 2008, 16:29:

After viewing this video and the one with the students, as well as sitting in on some events at the Casa de Integracion Afrocolombiana (which I highly recommend), I think what's interesting is how underdeveloped the dialogue about race seems to be here in Colombia. In many ways, the dialogue and the situation are how I imagine the US to have been in the 1950s. Consciousness and even the vocabulary to express such consciousness seem to be very much in the early stages of development here. Then again, one must always be cautious with these comparisions - a Chocó concept doesn´t really exist in the US and what do we make of the fact that Colombia already has a federal government minister (of cultura) who is of African descent? Maybe "behind" isn´t quite an accurate way to describe the circumstances in Colombia?

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august says on Aug 14, 2008, 16:29:

After viewing this video and the one with the students, as well as sitting in on some events at the Casa de Integracion Afrocolombiana (which I highly recommend), I think what's interesting is how underdeveloped the dialogue about race seems to be here in Colombia. In many ways, the dialogue and the situation are how I imagine the US to have been in the 1950s. Consciousness and even the vocabulary to express such consciousness seem to be very much in the early stages of development here. Then again, one must always be cautious with these comparisions - a Chocó concept doesn´t really exist in the US and what do we make of the fact that Colombia already has a federal government minister (of cultura) who is of African descent? Maybe "behind" isn´t quite an accurate way to describe the circumstances in Colombia?

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august says on Aug 14, 2008, 16:30:

Not sure why that was posted twice.

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Lisa Zee says on Aug 14, 2008, 17:22:

Yes we are racist in Medellin.

Feliz Navidad!

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tejasmarcos says on Aug 14, 2008, 17:36:

i do not see much of it here - atleast not blatantly. also, the fine black folks here really seem to blend in just like the rest of the people here do.

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Simon says on Aug 14, 2008, 17:48:

"i do not see much of it here - atleast not blatantly. also, the fine black folks here really seem to blend in just like the rest of the people here do.
"

You are absolutely correct!

"DON'T FOK WITH COLOMBIA!!"-----Simon

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tomtom33 says on Aug 15, 2008, 04:38:

You don't need blatant acts of racism to negatively affect the black population. The Paisa "nice" still holds sway. I continue to be absolutely stunned by the bigoted attitudes held by many otherwise intelligent people that I have come to know in Medellín.

I went to high school in the Milwaukee area. Milwaukee is the most segregated city in the US. The attitudes held in Milwaukee are tame compared to those in Medellín.

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