Racial Attitudes of Colombian Women

Mario says on Jan 12, 2007, 13:23:

Degreed in Advertising? I Ask Because Your First Paragraph is Chock Full of First Letter Capitals Just Like These.

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southern151 says on Jan 12, 2007, 13:35:

Racial profiling... I think that there is plenty said about racial profiling(against blacks) in the US by white people. We don't need to hear about it happening with Colombianas both here and in Colombia. That card is really getting old! I am not saying that is not possible but, unlikely. Perhaps, you are not what they are looking for and not because of your color either. Again, that is old news. None of us get a warm reception from every woman we meet just because we speak of our college degrees. I think that, perhaps, you are with the attitude of many other Americans: Latin women love us just because we are American and have something they want(life in the US). Let me tell you, IT IS NOT TRUE! There is a lot more to them than that.

Do like the rest of us do...If the first ten so no thanks, ask number eleven! LOL

Mario says on Jan 12, 2007, 13:49:

His question is valid And inline with site guidelines as written.

Being white, I haven't experienced any racial bias directed toward me in Colombia but it does exist among Colombia's own people, among others. Elmodefoque has brought it up time and again. And I've witnessed the general animosity toward other people of Latin-American countries within my own extended family in Colombia, such as Mexican people, etc.

Racism is borne of ignorance, and perpetuated by the same - and if some Latina had a problem with me if I were black, I wouldn't have the time of day for the bitch anyway. So yes, ask number eleven.

"The angle of the dangle is directly proportionate to the swerve of the curve."

paisa29 says on Jan 12, 2007, 14:03:

in my opinion... I don`t think the real problem is your color, it is not easy for some women to trust men whom they meet on the internet.
Have you been here in Colombia?

JR says on Jan 12, 2007, 14:16:

Depends on what city you visit In Medellin, it seemed to me the women were more inclined to date lighter skinned guys. In Cali, they do not seem as racially conscious. I'm a mix, Lebanese and Puerto Rican so that's my take on it. I have heard the attitudes on the coast are similar to Cali but I've never been there to experience it firsthand.

robi666 says on Jan 12, 2007, 15:16:

Paisa29 with your posts (there was another funny post on another thread) one day you'll make me die of laughing :-D
You're saying that it is not easy for some Colombian women to trust people they met on the internet? It is really seeing the world upside down!
DonGringo, look at this, poor Colombianas trycked by bad gringos on an internet dating site!
To the OP: yes, a lot of colombianas has got problems to date black men. On the coast too.
But it seems to me it is just first reaction, easy to fade. You're from USA, so you're not that black. Especially if you show some money! ;-)

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elmodefoque says on Jan 12, 2007, 15:53:

tedddy, how could you even ask such an ignorant question. single young colombianas, especially the middle class and wealthy, are the most non racist people in colombia. Every single one of their parents dreams of the day when their nice white daughters brings home un negro or un indio bien feo y pobre, entre mas negro mejor. i feel bad for those white gringo guys in colombia, they can't get a date to save their lives. Those pretty colombianas are too busy chasing those damn indios and blacks around.
these black and indian colombian kids love being poor, they hate to wear shoes and shirts but don't worry every one of them is gonna have hot colombianas after them

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

teddyxyz5 says on Jan 12, 2007, 18:30:

Advertising and Visits to Colombia Yes, I have done some advertising/marketing in my career. I also visited Bogota for work once but was so pressed for time I didn't have a chance do anything but dinners and pick up some emeralds for my wife at the time (now EX).

Normally, if something is not working my nature is to identify the cause and correct it. Possibly, I've incorrectly identified the problem, but noting else is evident.

billyb says on Jan 12, 2007, 19:39:

Teddy, there's more than people are willing to admit.. but it's not so much racism per say, but in my opinion and from my observation it's more a problem of social acceptance. I think that there are many Colombian women that would date a black man in the US, but would not think of doing it in Colombia because of friction they would get from their family and friends. Unfortunate but true. Good luck anyways.

BillyB

mzzmerized says on Jan 12, 2007, 20:46:

I hardly ever post but... Elmo's post with the YouTube video brought back too many memories...all you people who think Colombia is some kind of utpoia of racial harmony...get real!!! Colombia is all about breeding up on the black-indigenous-white-racial scale...where the lighter your skin, the bigger prize you are..and you, the gringo, are the biggest prize of them all.

utopiacowboy says on Jan 12, 2007, 21:24:

What total BS! Colombians are people like Americans and yes, many of them are racists. I have no problem with my son having a black girlfriend but my wife would never allow it for her sons. That is a typical attitude. Generally speaking in Colombia, the whiter the better. My wife hates to see how dark her daughter gets here in the summer - of course I make matters worse by saying that her father must have been black and that it's ok, she can tell me. Drives her crazy.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

miamimike says on Jan 12, 2007, 23:33:

Here in Miami I have never observed a Colombiana (white) or Trigueña with a Black Man. I have seen many many Puerto rican women with Black men many times, look at J-Lo as an example. This(racist attitude) is not only with Colombian women but also with Cubanas here in Miami. The would never accept their sister or daughter, son, brother intermarrying with a Black and that is sad in this time of 2007.. I freaked out a friend of mine out from Colombia a week ago-took her into Little Haiti where we visited a Haitian(black-there are pure white haitians also) Doctor friend of mine-he took us to a nice french restuarant where he bought us dinner-he ordered in perfect english, french and spanish. I think iniatally she thought she was going to be sequestered in Little Haiti-she told she never seen so many black people in her life-Lol Should have had the VCR cranked up for that trip! I am hoping his manner went a long way that day in dispelling some Myths Latinas hold concerning blacks.We all bleed Red Blood,,,

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goin_south says on Jan 13, 2007, 00:20:

teddy... I think all the above posters have valid posts.

My novia de Colombia? She is pretty evenly Colombina/latino/hispanic. But, she raved once, about my whiteness. I don't know. I rave about her, just as she is. She told me once, she 'wishes she was lighter'. I don't understand. To me, if she was white...??? I Love the way she is. I do not even begin to understand why she wants to be 'lighter/whiter'.

But, I have a VERY GOOD friend, from Pasto, who is married to an afro-american. So, don't sweat it. and, someone above writes about the 'mistrust' of the internet. Well,... that stands to reason. Maybe the longer time goes on, the less trust there is on the internet. On so many dating sites, now... it is not for dating, but there is a girl/lady there to get you to go to her personal website....where there is ludicrous findings, if you are looking for a genuine relationship. So, as it appears,... maybe all that will go FULL CIRCLE...

My advice to you is, to continue to look. As I have said so many times before on PBH... WHATEVER IT IS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, I BELIEVE YOU CAN FIND IT IN COLOMBIA.

AND, IF YOU ARE GENUINE IN WHAT YOU SEARCH FOR, then don't worry, you will find it. It's jus a bit like fishing. Keep throwin out the bait. Some one will bite, and sooner or later, the FISH WILL MAKE YOU SMILE FOREVERMORE.


Es el año, 2007: El año del gringo... BLANCO O NEGRO.

and, thank you.

morphus says on Jan 13, 2007, 05:41:

Colombians are very prejudice against blacks. Luckily, there are a lot of black Colombians that you can get along with. Theres also a lot of prepago white Colombianas that have the time if you have the dime.

I have the same problem here in New York. I'm white and black women don't like me because of my color.

I have a black friend at work. He loves going to Germany where a black American guy is appreciated by young blonde chicks. Europe is the place to be if you're black American. It might have something to do with hip hop music so put away the university degrees and break out the baggy atire.

Theres also Cuba if you like white latinas. They're not too racial there. I guess because the white Cubanos are almost as poor as the black Cubanos.

aztec says on Jan 13, 2007, 06:50:

My wife was discriminated against... ...by her own Colombian family, including her own mother, because she was darker than any one else in the family. She was reluctant to get in the sun because it turned her a much darker shade.

It took much time and trust on her part before she could believe she had a beautiful color. Even though many people including women here comment on her beautiful skin color she still harbors the feeling of inferiority.

The impact on children last a life time.

paisa29 says on Jan 13, 2007, 07:36:

billyb is right "I think that there are many Colombian women that would date a black man in the US, but would not think of doing it in Colombia because of friction they would get from their family and friends. Unfortunate but true."

JR is also right... you`ll have more luck in Cartagena, Barranquilla or Cali than Bogotá and Medellín.

morphus says on Jan 13, 2007, 07:40:

Better luck here in Yonkers, New York. Most of the Latinas here have black boyfriends. I feel like an outcast :)

miamimike says on Jan 13, 2007, 10:19:

The Colombian Women here in Miami Do NOT date Black men and last I knew it was part of the states. Have not seen it in LA or NYC or Houston either where most Colombianas live. Ditto for The White Cubans-they all tell me they are from Northern Spain(their grandparents-- that is why they so white. In some parts of Miami, like in Allapatah and Wynwood, I see Puerto Rican and Dominican women with thier black friends. Fact is, some black cubans(male and female) have started coming from Cuba to Miami the last few years and they all go to Miami Beach(some live in cocnut grove also) to live as they feel they would be discriminated against by their own people if they went to the traditional cuban neighnborhoods in Miami such as Little Havana,Kendall or Hiahleah. Forget places like Adventura, Weston or Coral Gables.

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morphus says on Jan 13, 2007, 11:10:

The problem is Colombians still think they are white when they come to the U.S. Puerto Ricans don't consider themselves white even if they have brown hair and green eyes. Actually, Puerto Ricans think there is only black, white and Puerto Rican in the world. You could be from France and to them you're are still white and they Puerto Rican...lol

teddyxyz5 says on Jan 13, 2007, 11:31:

Think I Will Save My AirFare I think I will save my airfare unless I want to Pay to Play in Colombia.

It is sad to hear about parents giving their kids an inferiority complex. Kids so often bear the lifetime scars of their parents' misconceptions. I certainly would not want to marry a Colombiana and have her pass these ideas on to any possible offspring. This would definitely be a step backwards.

Looks like Colombia will only be an excursion for me.

billyb says on Jan 13, 2007, 14:27:

Miamimike, the thing is that Miami is.... a virtual extension of Colombia so many women in Miami have much the same network of friends and relatives as they would in Colombia and so they must conform as they would back home. My point was more about Colombianas that were more isolated in other places in US. But my main point is, that even the few Colombianas that might date a black man in the US, would not do it back home.

BillyB

goin_south says on Jan 13, 2007, 14:55:

Okay, then there are alot of lyin-ass Colombianas on the internet always talking only about all the INTANGIBLE QUALITIES of Virtuosity. So, Teddy, it might be a little bit more challenging, but I still think if you are a fun, decent, respectable person, you can probably have a great time in Colombia. (I suppose I could be wrong.)

and, thank you.

Cerealkiller says on Jan 13, 2007, 15:09:

Ive always thought South America is racist. Just look at some of the social compostition of the countries to get a very general view...elites in Peru and Ecuador are all of European Descent and waaay lighter than the rest of the population...Colombia, same thing, the super elite is white, the tv presenters are white the popular huge assed models are all "blondes". Why would anyone who has been raised and educated in that sort of environment want to marry a black person or an indio when it clearly is not regarded as a status symbol?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 13, 2007, 16:45:

i was just like that indian kid on that youtube video except my stomach was bigger, i had more parasites (bellie worms)
this video brought disturbing memeories and to this day i still ain't getting any free loving from colombianas. while they give it away to every modefoque stepping down a plane from places far away, this very pure native "colombiano" has to pay, but now it don't bother me as much.
During my first trip back to colombia, at 19 years old, i soon realized colombianas were nothing like gringas, they did not want my dark indian ass. Heartbroken, I stayed away for over 20 years and remained in NYC enjoying white gringas, puerto ricans,dominicans, italian,blacks, american indian, irish, chinese,jewish and even greek girls but no colombianas.
Now i return as an old modefoque, but this colombiano still can't get free colombiana loving so i have to pay.
My black colombian brothers and my people have many things in common, mostly missery and poverty but we have something over the middle/rich colombianos, we had to grow up a lot quicker and that made us stronger.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2007, 16:46:

hi Elomo i was missing you, hi Elmo i was missing you, did you miss me?.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 13, 2007, 16:49:

muchisimo!!!!!!
muchisimo!!!!!!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2007, 16:51:

Good! how are you love. did you have a nice christmas?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 13, 2007, 16:53:

regalame una fotico
regalame una fotico

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2007, 16:53:

in CB i have plenty just go there

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elmodefoque says on Jan 13, 2007, 16:59:

thanks, i'll check. welcome back!
i'm leaving in about 3 weeks to curramba.
before i forget, where the hell is tomtom, i need numbers from all his prepago friends.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 13, 2007, 17:02:

thanks Elmo, I dunno where Tomtom is, this is an emergency, you have just 3 weeks to go.... I will do my best to find Tomtom dunno worry....

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morphus says on Jan 13, 2007, 20:30:

Tomtom's girls can be found at La Dolce Vida late at night. Then at Giro Matto after 3am...lol

morphus says on Jan 13, 2007, 20:40:

? "I think I will save my airfare unless I want to Pay to Play in Colombia"

If you're only going a week or two, you will have to pay anyway. Normal white Colombianas spreading their legs for a black tourist is'nt a reality. It sounds like Teddy is discriminating against his own kind. There are plenty of black/dark Colombianas he could go for. He might be better off with them anyway. I heard they give more affection and better sex.

goin_south says on Jan 13, 2007, 22:34:

morph is right, I think On the internet, I have seen some very delectable and dark, gorgeous appearing colombianas, even who appear with great education. I think it was Paisa29 who said you might find more interest over in Cartagena/Barranquilla area. Open up your mind.
If the Saints can win a Super Bowl, then ANYTHING IN THE WORLD IS POSSIBLE ;) (The impossible is not so far away)

Es el año, 2007: "El Ano de Los Santos!"

and, thank you.

Rubito says on Jan 13, 2007, 22:58:

I have to say it sounds really fucking weird that you have ALL those credentials, professional, speak the language fluently, and get no bites. Even if you were ugly as sin you should get something. I'd be inclined to suspect race is a factor :(

One of these days I'm bringin my drummer friend down to Bogota too engage in a little scientific illuminism. He's black as coal, in his 40s, but in shape like an 18 year old. He does even better than I do, and even in Rio he was getting phone numbers left and right. I'd like to see how Bogota reacts to him.

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goin_south says on Jan 14, 2007, 01:41:

Hey, Teddy... You said: "when I contact them I get minimal positive responses, if a response at all."

Let me share something with you. I don't know which site you are talking about, but this: Back in December 2004, I was vaguely familiear with Colombia. The whole idea of Colombianas was new to me, just a few months prior. I got on one of those sites. many colombianas. many with seemingly great profiles. many with higher educations.

I picked about 5 or 6 ladies to write to, after perusing many, many profiles. Good, or Bad... I am like,... Snow White. (Pero, soy hombre!) I wrote to those ladies, about 3 or 4 times a week or more. All were appealing to me. And,...but.... there was one in particularly appealing one to me.

I wrote. And, wrote. Wrote some more. with little response. Almost none. Six weeks passed by. Finally, the one (that was particularly appealing to me) wrote back to me. And..... so did all the rest... all at about the same time.

The one that was PARTICULARLY APPEALING TO ME.... we are now, after two years, in the midst of the visa process.

So, maybe that is not even what you are looking for. But, it was a little strange situation. (You think my spanish is bad now?? jajjejee..as compared to then! wheeeh.) But, persistence and knowing what was wanted, paid good dividends. Well, we're not quite there yet, but hoping.

So, I don't know what you been doing, or what you really want, but maybe you are 'throwing in the RACE CARD' to explain away your lack of success.

It happens.
Shit happens.
And, so happens the things you maintain persistence with, most of the time, I think.
Glad I did. Maybe you should to, and don't let these other people's reality become yours. Know what it is you want. And,....make it/let it happen.

(If the Saints can even make it to the Super Bowl, then ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN! and, it AINT so far away.)

Es el año, 2007: "El Ano de Los Santos!"

and, thank you.

morphus says on Jan 14, 2007, 02:30:

For all you lonely hearts, there are a lot of Colombianas on www.plentyoffish.com. Its free for now.

aztec says on Jan 14, 2007, 07:26:

I know it is easy for me, teddyxyz5, to say... ...but stop using race as a crutch. Just consider that as another hurdle and overcome it. After all it is not your problem. Believe us when we tell you there are women who after they get to know you will not see the color of your skin.

Stop looking for a color of woman. They come is so many shades and most are beautiful in one way or the other.

Our own situation is an example. After people get to know my wife they love her. They don't notice she has a darker skin color. That says a lot in the South. My point is you are more than the color of your skin. Just show people who you are and things will work out just fine. Stop being afraid!You have made color a problem.

teddyxyz5 says on Jan 14, 2007, 11:45:

I Was Limiting Myself to Any One Type Thank you elmodefoque for sharing your experience growing up in Colombia, and your return visits. What you said has the most weight to me because you intimately know Colombian society from the inside out. There is no speculation in your response, its all true life experience.

I did not limit myself to any skin shade of woman. Suprisingly, I found that women of darker complexion were more likely to specify that they wanted a white man with blonde hair, blue, gray or green eyes. No answer there.

goin_south says on Jan 14, 2007, 12:10:

hey teddy, you didn't grow up in Colombia, ... so why Elmo's experiences aren't going to be so much more valid (for you) than the other points that have been made by myself and others. I think Elmo hangs out in some narrow veins of life, when in Colombia. VERY COLOMBIAN, for sure! But... there is alot more available than what Elmo describe to you. He is writing from HIS EXPERIENCE. And, as I said, you didn't grow up there, so I think your responses and perspectives likely are much different.

BUT, IT sounds like you are convinced otherwise, so I won't waste anymore time on this one; I THINK IT'S BEST YOU SPARE YOURSELF AND DON'T GO TO COLOMBIA.

Es el año, 2007: "El Ano de Los Santos!"

and, thank you.

belu00 says on Jan 14, 2007, 14:41:

Take it from a COLOMBIANA This is ludicrous! Bananas I tell you!! I have yet to see 1 female colombian give you any feedback in regards to your situation. I didn't have time to read all the comments but I noticed they were all from men and mostly white men, what will they know? first they are not female and secondly they are not colombianitas. Lucky for you I am here. I was born in Barranquilla and moved to Miami at an early age. While in High School I really liked this guy from St. Croix mind you he was black but a very light color almost as a dark tan very handsome but I never let it go past friendship because I couldn't imagine what my family would think if I brought home a black guy. Years past only dated a cuban american guy and the rest were all white. Recently I met this guy african american mother and his father was czech, when I first met him I couldn't tell if he was black or hispanic or what. Finally the question came of what nationality he was when he told me he was "brown" I didn't know what to make of it. I was hesistant at first but we ended up dating. I think Colombian women are some what racist. They will befriend you but will think twice about dating you...I know I did. Its not a factor of looking down at the race...I just can't quite put my finger on it. I agree with billyb when he says "it's more a problem of social acceptance". And I can't believe how many men are telling you to be a bit more generous with your pocket book! PUHLEESE! Your degree and monitary situation can only get you so far, if you gotta be showing the woman your wallet for her to show some interest you're gonna get yourself a golddigger and nothing more. Like the other men said go for number 11. If a Colombiana is what you want then keep trying one will find you appealing without you having to share your bank information! Hope this helps.

teddyxyz5 says on Jan 14, 2007, 19:43:

Belu00 You Confirm My Initial Impressions Belu00, I appreciate your comments. You are the first Colombiana that responded and I appreciate your honesty. You clearly stated that it is not socially acceptable for a Colombiana to date a Black man. In your view this is not racist and in the most intimate of relationships personal preference is paramount.

However, getting right to the point at hand, Colombianas don't date Black men. In essence, one that would date a Black man would be one out of a hundred. These are pretty poor odds and equates to me wasting time on a futile effort. In the end its back to Colombia only being a place to go for a pay to play vacation. It also makes me think that if I did run into a willing Colombiana she might be a current or retired prostitute looking for a change of location.

Thanks to you all, the last thing a man wants to do is marry an Ex-Pro.

utopiacowboy says on Jan 14, 2007, 19:46:

On the coast there are plenty of Colombianas with varying degrees of African blood who probably would be receptive. My wife is from Medellin and that's the least favorable environment, hell, she thinks she's white.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

goin_south says on Jan 14, 2007, 20:23:

I think Bellu said at the end... same thing: if you know what you want, then go search for it, and you'll find it.

And, Bellu, for your information, it ain't cheap, hustlin una Colombiana when you live in EEUU... Air, Hotel, 3x's a year, lost income while you're gone, phone cards, flowers, candy, Estee Lauder and Christian Dior make-up (that she can't get down there) and a 100 other little things in package you're always sending by way of guaranteed delivery because otherwise it ain't gonna get there, and I am sure I have left out some other things.

Gringos face their own amount of 'lack of social acceptance' from the families, if they are W/A/S. Doesn't even matter if you are catholic...lol. Most guys I have spoken with here in the states, face their own problems, more so with family I think, not accepting their choice and preference.

(credit to the Colombiana: this problem is usually only initially because her warmth wins over the gringo family quickly - no I am not talking about the crazy psycho stories of schiza-chicas/gringos on PBH.)

I am talking about the good stories like famsearch (of recent success) and others, but mostly we don't hear those stories as much as the bad ones. It's just like the news! Rarely to we hear the good news; except from friends.

Okay. So, you face a sort of reverse situation. But, just as Beluu said, you likely will find what you want, if you keep looking for it.

Okay, some racist considerations: See, I guess you are black. Well, that is one of the things - not necessarily with any truth to it, but - one Colombiana said she thought gringos lacked: dancing ability. So, stereotypically, blacks are usually more willing and better dancers than white guys. So...time to start lookin at 'the pros', rather than the 'cons'. ya think? (You should see me dance after about 8 beers! but, for your own sake, don't get in my way...lol)

and, thank you.

Monpirri says on Jan 14, 2007, 20:47:

Also If you are a good looking black, or not too good looking, but famous you will not have any problems in dating white Colombians even in Colombia. I believe the same thing applies here in the states.
Two years ago I was watching a reality show on TV and a very popular black Colombian guy in Colombia he had and has more chances to date or marry any women more than Valentino dated in his time.
Yes, South American, and North America still a bit racist. But where there are more blacks there is more tolerance towards the brothers.
Colombian TV made a soap opera about a relationship between a black man and a white woman. It was very interesting to see it.
The soap opera was very similar to the classic movie "Guess who is coming to dinner" with Sidney Pointer.

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sweetg30 says on Jan 15, 2007, 10:12:

I agree with you robi666 "To the OP: yes, a lot of colombianas has got problems to date black men. On the coast too." That's so true but you can find plenty of good women that would be more then happy to date any good men no matter what their color skin is.
"You're from USA, so you're not that black. Especially if you show some money! ;-)" lol ay Dios mio if you're looking for that kind of woman, good luck, you should talk with Dan and see what he has to say about that. But is very true some Colombian's can be very racist but you find that everywhere.

robi666 says on Jan 15, 2007, 10:21:

Yes sweetg30: the OP is looking for a woman on an internet dating site = chances are high that he get in contact with one of that kind of woman. Or, that he just wants to date and get laid. Sometimes gringo's color is green, nothing else.

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sweetg30 says on Jan 15, 2007, 10:26:

is more of social aceptance true, I have a black friend and my mom though I was dating him I had to explain to her that we were just friends. So since family is very important to Colombians it's not easy to date a black man in colombia. But while I lived in Barranquilla I saw people dating black men, my cousins don't have dark skin but they married black men and had kids with them, so it all depends on their family and the individual.

sweetg30 says on Jan 15, 2007, 10:33:

robi666 "Sometimes gringo's color is green, nothing else." agree with you on that too, some people or should i say a lot of people would tell you otherwise. But just be careful and if you just want to get laid do it here, why go so far. But not only colombian's are racist my black friend and I used to get dirty looks from the black folks, like he was doing something wrong or like i stole something valuable from them.

Paul Anthony says on Jan 15, 2007, 12:42:

I May Be Blind But I Don't Get It or See It One of things I love most about Colombia is the huge variety of skin shade I see when moving around the city whether I’m having dinner in an expensive restaurant in Zona T or wondering around the market in Paloquemao. It seems to me that Colombians range from blonde blue eyed Aryan types, olive skinned Spanish, indigenous Indians and people who are absolutely pitch black, plus there is every imaginable combination in between, so people must be dating and marrying people of different racial origins.

I think attitude to colour is often in the minds of the people of colour. I myself am a combination of a blonde blue eyed Anglo Saxon English mother and an Afro Caribbean father from Jamaica with a touch of Indian from India thrown in and I expect there is probably a bit of Arawak Indian swilling around in my gene pool somewhere as well. I was raised never to even consider my skin shade as being relevant to anything. Because I thought and acted that way in England, where I born and raised, people treated me that way there. Now I may be mistaken, but I’ve never imagined for one moment that any of my Colombian friends or family sees my colour as relevent either. My partner is what I suppose people would call “White Colombian�, we met in England and came to live in Bogotá and colour was never an issue between us, it was never even really discussed. So really guys don’t get hung up on this racial/colour thing, part of the beauty of Colombia is its rainbow nature.

Where I perceive a problem in Colombia is in class and social differences which are huge and very obvious here. I must also assume that due to historical reasons, class is to some extent, and only some extent, reflected in skin colour. It seems that indigenous and black people tend to come from the poorer elements of society. However, the clear fact that most Colombians are very obviously of mixed race tells me people don’t have such a big problem with dating and marrying each other. You can’t miss how mixed the people are, it can be seen in the faces of almost everyone, whether they are a government minister or a street vendor. Also white Colombians as well as black and Indigenous Indian Colombians can be found begging at the traffic lights, which tells me that social class is not completely something to do with skin colour. However, I suspect that if you tried to marry someone who is of a different class then you might well have a problem, which is just the same in England.

Anyway, I’d really like to hear other people’s views of my opinion. Am I right or am I just another dumb foreigner who’s so in love with Colombia that I can’t see things clearly?

goin_south says on Jan 15, 2007, 13:09:

got to agree with Paul Anthony,... and, some one above was saying something about Puerto Ricans being one or the other don't know WTF they are talking about; a P.R. love of the past, told me if I went to a Family Reunion with her in P.R., I would be amazed, because there would be people there from one end of the spectrum to the other, and everything in between, as to skin color.

Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

and, thank you.

elchantajista says on Jan 15, 2007, 17:33:

teddy I think what maybe your problem is dating sites,to me it's not really a good idea, that goes for all races also not just Colombiana, the racial card I don't think comes into play too much ;given most Colombiana are racial mixed, i'm not saying it don't exist and a few famlies might have a problem but I think for Colombiana it's more a power, wealth and appeal than a racial thing.if they like what they see then it's on, i think it;s as simple as that. I kinda tried the dating site once and didn't have lots of luck, my opinion that's a last resort and only if u have problems with going to Colombia or u can't find them in EE UU; my luck comes from just the old fashion way go out there and meet them where they play,and find one that u connect with and if that means going to Colombia , well then so be it

anda de parranda en Bogota
"Vicente"

anda de parranda en Bogota "Vicente"

belu00 says on Jan 15, 2007, 18:19:

Poor Perception of COLOMBIANAS WOW. I guess because I raised in the US I don't see what you guys are talking about. From what I can tell Colombian Woman have the worst conotation with American men, apparently we are all about the green? This is pretty sad. True, there are poor women in Colombia that are looking to improve the financial situation but god from these comments they sound like greedy maneaters!!! Whenever I do a search online about Colombia I get thousands of "dating sites" that pretty much look like catalogs of women looking for men....better said women for sale. Its embarrassing and sad to see what the circumstances in Colombia, are driving women to do. I don't think dating sites is the best way to meet a genuine Colombiana. Hopefully this poor perception of Colombian Women is not something thats thought of EVERY Colombiana. I would hate to be part of this stereotype.

teddyxyz5 says on Jan 15, 2007, 19:00:

History and the Racial Mix Paul Anthony is right to say that many populations are mixed, but classic love relationships are not the reason for this. One has to go back to colonial times and also slavery to see the origin of the mixed populations.

First, basic biology is that a man could possibly impregnate 365 (one-a-day) or more offspring arising from a good year's sexual activity. While a woman could at best produce one offspring.

During colonialism and slavery, white men were free to have sex at will with any indigenous, free Black or slave woman with no repercussions or requirement for continuing care of the offspring. Except in rare ocassions, these offspring would become members of the subservient indigenous free Black and slave populations. However, if their mixed heritage was evident they could recieve preference in less harsh duties and be given greater access to education. This same process occurred throughout the world as colonization took place.

There were extreme penalties for indigenous, free Black and slave men that consorted with White women. Also, few White women were present in the earliest stages of colonization. As a result, the great numbers of mixed populations were born from the wombs of indigenous, free Black and slave women.

The great numbers of mixed populations arose from the process above, but in most instances the women involved had limited options in the matter.

goin_south says on Jan 15, 2007, 23:03:

beluu, you are now a gringa-type: You "only hear the bad and none of all the good", that so many of us guys are saying here in reference to Colombianas. Other ladies on this site have the same problem. It's easy to understand why. But, you are failing to see the aspect of 'Colombiana Worship' or APPRECIATION that exists here. Or, is it just me?

Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

and, thank you.

goin_south says on Jan 15, 2007, 23:12:

beluu.... -}}?

and, thank you.

goin_south says on Jan 15, 2007, 23:13:

beluu.... I met my fiance on amigos.com, where there are numerous genuine ladies. (No lady/girl on amigos.com ever invited me to there personal porn website, the way it ends up on many of the other profiles on what you or someone may assess to be a 'clean' dating site, mostly americana/gringas.)

I guarantee you, SHE (My Fiance) is as genuine as it gets, as for Colombianas!

I think UTC also met his wife on amigos.com, and the dude seems pretty damned .... su vida esta en las estrellas (except for the time he spends on his back, on the floor, for the 'up-skirt' shots. lol)! But, maybe he can/will confirm that for ya.

Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

and, thank you.

coffee beaner says on Jan 16, 2007, 01:11:

hmmmm.....poor brothas Well as far as I could tell by my trip last year I found out that some "white" Colombians do look down on the Colombian "brothas", but I do think its a cultural thing. This past year I visited my aunt in Medellin, on her block there was this fine black girl with a banging body and beautiful face and I pointed this out to my aunt, yet her response was "usted tan blanco mijo y con una negra??? gassss como se le ocurre" (you so white with a black women, eww how would you!). We argued about the subject but she said it would be a disgrace to have a black person in the family. My mom in the other hand who has lived in the States for over 33 years has no problem with me having a black girl. So I could see it as a cultural thing, also teddy just go to Colombia and try it out... like one of my black friends says "women can't get enough of big black dick"

gringolondinense says on Jan 16, 2007, 03:54:

check out Zaire Berrio (a chica aguila).

http://www.aguila.com.co/minisite_chicas_2006/

Shes quite dark and very beautiful. Shes got the best butt out of all of the 2006 batch.

southern151 says on Jan 16, 2007, 05:41:

Teddy... That's a great history lesson. Thanks. I feel enlightened. But, it is history. Man, no offense but, what are you trying to accomplish? I thought that you had earlier decided against going although, I don't think that you should so easily give up. Somewhere in history, nearly every race, creed, sex or religion has been oppressed at some point.

I am looking at the original question of this thread wanting to know about racial attitudes. I feel that the happenings of hundreds of years ago have little or nothing to do with today's attitudes. As I stated in a previous post, keep asking/looking. There is someone out there for everyone.

Although I have yet to go(9 days and counting), I have read a great deal about Colombia and what it has to offer. I love women just as much as the next straight man but there is a lot more to offer than just women. If my plans work out right, I will come home with every memory stick that I own loaded with pics. There is great sculptures, architecture and history there. Go for the sights and if your lucky, you'll find you alterior reason for going. Go with an open mind. You have to do that everywhere you go or you'll look like the second hand on a clock...Always moving but never getting anywhere.

Good luck to you.

paisa29 says on Jan 16, 2007, 08:14:

Coffee beaner...Yo estoy de acuerdo... en que es una cosa cultural, por ejemplo mi abuela es como su tia,pero yo realmente no puedo culparlas porque esa fue la educación que ellas recibieron, el racismo es mas notorio en las generaciones anteriores a la nuestra, especialmente en Antioquia donde todavia
existen pueblos en el oriente donde era prohibida la mezcla de las razas.

(hmmmm.....poor brothas
Well as far as I could tell by my trip last year I found out that some "white" Colombians do look down on the Colombian "brothas", but I do think its a cultural thing. This past year I visited my aunt in Medellin, on her block there was this fine black girl with a banging body and beautiful face and I pointed this out to my aunt, yet her response was "usted tan blanco mijo y con una negra??? gassss como se le ocurre" (you so white with a black women, eww how would you!). We argued about the subject but she said it would be a disgrace to have a black person in the family. My mom in the other hand who has lived in the States for over 33 years has no problem with me having a black girl. So I could see it as a cultural thing, also teddy just go to Colombia and try it out... like one of my black friends says "women can't get enough of big black dick"

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gringolondinense says on Jan 16, 2007, 08:34:

yep paisa racism is often taught to us by others. Even culture is taught...we copy those people around us especially at an early age, then it gets integrated into our minds.

Also, its natural for humans to judge others based on their appearance. Our minds group people together. We generalise all the time, its how our minds process vast amounts of information we receive in any second. So put that together with influences of racist family and friends and we dont stand much chance to grow up in a way we would otherwise consciously choose.

Has anyone checked out the Chica Aguila Zaire yet? Wow! shes amazing!!

lockheed says on Jan 16, 2007, 08:35:

Not mine he is not Negrito This is my experience with most white woman.
No way never me a black guy, no way. Then comes the black guy with money, or with a 12 incher, or just plainly the the person they fall for.
O, no Tyrone he is not black he is brown, or O, no My Tyrone "el es un negro fino" el no es negro.
One thing I can say about black woman is that they on the other hand love their Negro no matter what. And el Negro always goes back to his Negra, so all you blankitas that think you can replace the negros negrita think again.

paisa29 says on Jan 16, 2007, 08:48:

belu00... Yo estoy totalmente de acuerdo contigo, yo pienso que la cosa con la mayoría de hombres que hablan mal de las Colombianas aquí es que no saben escoger bien a las mujeres, muchos se dejan llevar por la juventud o caras y cuerpos bonitos y no se preocupan por conocer las familias o estilos de vida de estas mujeres y luego ya es muy tarde cuando se dan cuenta de sus errores, entonces la mejor forma de desahogarse para ellos es hablar en la forma que lo hacen.

Es triste ver lo de el mercado de las mujeres Colombianas en los (dating sites), pero lo mas triste, es el tipo de hombres que atraen esos sitios, la mayoría de ellos solamente quieren divertirse y jugar,en los últimos años han llegados muchos extranjeros de ese tipo y la forma en que tratan a las mujeres ha creado una fama no muy buena para los gringos especialmente.

ericdharma says on Jan 16, 2007, 08:59:

take your money and run in the other direction Listen Teddy I don't blame you for not wanting to go to Colombia if the people are like that. It is easy for other people to tell you that it doesn't matter and all of that crap. That you should take the moral high road and just think that it is all their problem and not yours, "BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, " It's easy for them to say that but they are not going to be shelling out x amount of dollars for the plane ticket and the lodging just to go somewhere ON VACATION and be treated like crap. It's also not going to be an easy pill to swallow having girls knocking you over to get past you to the blonde, blue eyed loser next to you who couldn't pay for a date in his own country of origin. If chicas are your main reason for traveling you should take your money elsewhere. No one should have to go on vacation and be treated badly bunch of "slave mentality" losers. This is 2007 for God's sake.

elmodefoque says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:05:

It is so easy to hide behind, well that’s what I was taught, or dating a black/Indio is unacceptable in my family.
Well, many gringas in NYC were also brought up with that mind set, yet they chose otherwise. Many Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, gringas, prefer darker men period. Responsibility falls on the individual. My daughters only date black or very dark latino guys and I never told them whom to date.
Listen, I’ve yet to bang a white Colombiana, I’m dying to get my very dark tanned greasy injun claws around una paisita de ojos verdes.
One time I was willing to pay up to 400 mil pesos for one but she turned me down, and she was a friggin hooker. Are we so repulsive to colombianas????

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

teddyxyz5 says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:13:

Not Dredging Up the Past to Open Old Wounds It’s said that if you go back in history you can find the origin of just about any human behavior. I think this is true here also. In the past Colombianas learned that the best way to ensure the survival of their offspring and provide them the best opportunities for success was to ensure that they had lighter skin complexions. The best way to accomplish this is to get the lightest man possible, with a Caucasian man best satisfying this objective.

From everything said throughout this post it appears that this is a strategy that works in Colombia. Every place has it own culture. However, being a Black American we already passed this era in the 60s, 70s, and 80s with the “Black is Beautiful� movement to be proud of who we are and accept the beauty of each of our myriad of skin tones. It seems that Colombians have not yet reached this point. The comments about parents warning their children to stay out of the sun for fear of getting too dark, and doing so themselves for the same reason says it all.

When I first heard this I knew a Colombiana was not for me because they would transfer these thoughts of color-based inferiority to any children they had, or were in contact with. I do very much appreciate everyone that has provided input to this post because it prevented me from making one of the greatest mistakes in my life.

ericdharma says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:14:

one more thing with respect to the fact that you might find a dark skinned girl who would be in to you I have found that dark skinned people in some countries of South America are even more racist than the whites. They are all trying to lighten themselves up at any cost. It is really sad because they have no pride at all and there is like this TOTAL acceptance that racism against blacks and indians is non-existent. They have created a racial system where everyone wants to be white so much that the darker people feel pressured to say that there is no racism because saying so would be admitting that they are black and are being discriminated against. They are so afraid of this that they say that there is no discrimination and that everything is fine and deep down inside they feel that the racism that they experience is deserved because if they were "whiter" they would be a better person. The whole situation is really disgusting.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:17:

The same happens in India, In there the lighter you are the more beautiful you are, and many women try to avoid the sun and use some bleaching creams.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:29:

el momento que agarre una colombiana blanquita se jodio! la voy a pone en cuatro como una burra. jijijijij

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:34:

cuidao no vaya ser que te meta una pata y el jodio es otro jijijj

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RJQuilla says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:41:

No Love Well Teddy, I am a Black male and the truth is you will get little or no love trying to meet the Latinas over the web. I have experience the same thing. I tell them up front and if I get a response it goes to zero after a few more emails. Now when I actually went to Colombia that was a different story. I got love from light latinas, dark latinas you name it. I do believe there is a negative stigma but after they see you and speak with you then they generally recognize you are a man just like others. I know what your talking about.

coffee beaner says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:47:

hey modefoque... yo te presento a mis primas blankitas y paisitas para que les des duro, yo solo por ver la cara de mis tias jajajaja

paisa29 says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:51:

yo tambien le puedo presentar a mi abuelita, jajaja

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 16, 2007, 09:55:

Yo tengo un primo, tambien cuenta?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 16, 2007, 10:07:

diganle que le voy amarra las pata contra un palo de mata raton asi mismo como hacemos con las burras y me voy a toma foto paque toa la familia vean jijijij

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 16, 2007, 11:56:

no sabia que la mata de no sabia que el palo de mataraton fuera tan fuerte?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 16, 2007, 12:25:

en quilla los palos de mataraton son cipotuo!
mandenme la abuela, la prima, el primo, el perro y el gato que a to se lo sampo.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 16, 2007, 14:40:

matarratón

"Soy el que siempreanda de noche en el vecindario, sé cuando ladra el perro, sé cuando canta el gallo sé cuando estan dormidos los muchachos de mi barrio..." (From the joropo "El pajarillo")

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 16, 2007, 14:49:

that is why I wonder Desi, it does not look strong enough to tie a donkey, in Villavo they are as thick as the one in your pic.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 16, 2007, 15:12:

That was what I thought too that the palo de matarratón is too skinny to tie anything on it...so I had to find a picture to confirm the fact.

Caleñas are not very particular about the skin tone of their prospective dates, lovers, mates, but the lighter upper middle girls don't usually date the Buenaventura black guys. The older generation, especially the ones that are grannies now, thought/think pretty much the way teddy says in the previous post; lighter skin tone would probably have been an advantage in getting a good job and getting ahead in life and as such a desirable trait in a mate.

How much of this depends on racist attitudes and how much is just sheer classism is unclear to me; I tend to see it more a result of a classist than a racist society, even though there's plenty of room for interpretations and the two concepts are pretty much intervowen.

Cheers,
Desi

"Soy el que siempreanda de noche en el vecindario, sé cuando ladra el perro, sé cuando canta el gallo sé cuando estan dormidos los muchachos de mi barrio..." (From the joropo "El pajarillo")

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

elmodefoque says on Jan 16, 2007, 15:35:

guys, i don't know from trees down there in the humid dense snake infested dangerous jungles and mountains of colombia, but in the sunny coastal cities they grow tall and strong just like the people.
we had a cipote jopo de palo matarraton that shaded the entire hut and that's where we tied our burros.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

r1ch1ee903 says on Jan 16, 2007, 15:50:

i am black i had no problem meeting women in colombia, dating them, taking them out on the town... been too bogota, baq, ctg and santa marta. had no problem getting any woman. the key factor is GRINGO. and i speak enough spanish to get by. and now i am currently married to my wife for over 2 years met her there and she is from a middle class family. we are currently living in the nyc ohh and her family never looked at me funny they have always liked me from day 1. and yes they do consider themself white.

elmodefoque says on Jan 16, 2007, 15:51:

hey blodie, give me your hey blondie, give me your phone number i'll call you right now. from your voice i'm able to tell how fine you are.
you don't have to wonder about me, i'll tell you, i'm one very old, ugly full blooded black colombian indian modefoque but give me a bottle of aguardiente and 2 six packs of cerveza aguila and i turn into a sexual beast.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 17, 2007, 04:40:

maybe this one will do Elmo

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elmodefoque says on Jan 17, 2007, 05:28:

mi reina, nojoda esa muje come que esta muy maluca jejeje, ni bien peao me la cule... que va! se lo sampo tambien

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 17, 2007, 05:33:

I’ve posted this pic before but I believe Teddy and other have not seen it.
This was taken somewhere in cachaco territory a few years ago. It depicts the conclusion of an earlier procession held in honor of a gringo who’s marrying a local girl. Town folks gather, mostly mothers, and congregate around la Iglesia Santo Gringo where candles are litten to celebrate and to pray for more blonde gringos for unwed girls.
During such events if I or a black colombiano was to be spotted anywhere near there, good chance we get stoned to death. Unknown to many of my gringo brothers the procession (paid by the gringo, but he don’t know that) are performed regularly but NEVER. NEVER when the gringo is present. This is only done after he leaves to set up paper work to get her into the USA and if not the USA then Europe will have to do.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 17, 2007, 05:50:

yep, I remember mine ;) my party was well guarded we didn't want any modefoque near and spoilt the fun :P

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elmodefoque says on Jan 17, 2007, 05:59:

mi amor, was it held in the middle of the town square?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kat1 (Moderator) says on Jan 17, 2007, 06:12:

yep :P it was a good party.. with papayera and all, a celebration that we catched the golden man ;P jiji
Uhmm I have to put the video in youtube ;)

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utopiacowboy says on Jan 17, 2007, 07:09:

Is that you in the photo, Desi? You've got a nice trim little figure if it is.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

lockheed says on Jan 17, 2007, 07:32:

GO TO HOLLYWOOD You guys should make a movie, it would be beter then Talladega Nights

cali373 says on Jan 17, 2007, 08:45:

You know. Colombianas are also black and mulatto, and are also HOT!

Smile if you are a thinker!

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 17, 2007, 08:59:

There must be a sizable Lebanese community in the town where Elmo's photo was taken. All those women lighting candles are from Syria/Lebanon/Southern Turkey and are Syrian Orthodox.

Cheers,
Desi

"Soy el que siempreanda de noche en el vecindario, sé cuando ladra el perro, sé cuando canta el gallo sé cuando estan dormidos los muchachos de mi barrio..." (From the joropo "El pajarillo")

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

morphus says on Jan 17, 2007, 18:37:

I don't think the problem is really racial. Its more of a natural preference. For example, I'm not a racist and i'm free to go after all the black women i want without any care from society or my family, yet I don't do it. I'm just not attracted to black women of African ancestry. I usually go for white to tan.

ericdharma says on Jan 17, 2007, 21:19:

It is definately not natural It would be natural for a white person who had never seen a black person to be attracted to other whites. It would be natural for a black person who had never seen a white person to be attracted to blacks and not to whites. It is NOT natural for blacks whites and indians to be attracted to whites and to want to be white more than they want to be who they are. This is a product of systematic brainwashing by whites in charge for generations and generations. There is nothing at all natural about it and what is truly SICK about the entire situation is that people like you think that it IS natural and go around saying that there is no racism in Latin America.

BxUnika says on Jan 17, 2007, 21:23:

What's Wrong With This Picture? Again, am I the only one who sees something wrong wth having to travel 1,000s of miles in order to make it with a woman? Get some self-respect and the race thing will be less of a factor.

goin_south says on Jan 17, 2007, 23:02:

okay, then...Elmo.... """My daughters only date black or very dark latino guys and I never told them whom to date.""""
Then, Elmo, why don't you hook Teddy up with your freakin daughter? Maybe save him a freakin trip to a land where he know he don wanna go?


Es el año, 2007: "El Año de Los Santos!"

and, thank you.

southern151 says on Jan 18, 2007, 05:18:

Idea... Let this damn thread go to the end of the line! Let's all agree to disagree...There is and isn't racism in Colombia. If they were racist toward white people, my white ass wouldn't be going there. I'm sure that there is racism to some extent. There's racism throughout the world! Example: You won't see me in the MidEast any time in this life. They'd kill me for having blonde hair and blue eyes but, no one has heard me bitching or wanting to know why (or giving stories about how a bunch of people that I never knew used to rape all their women). If that is the way it is than that is the way it is. Don't think that you need to whine or set out on a crusade. Hell, ericdharma says Morphus is f^&*in brainwashed. Well, Morphus, I'm no racist either and I'm not attracted to many black women so let's enter the f&(*in Twighlight Zone together! LOFL (Call me a racist and I will ask you why I am so interested in other country's people and culture!)

You want to talk about brainwashed????...How bout the idea that when a person doesn't get a reply, they instantly think it is because of their color!!! There are millions of highly intelligent black people in the US and around the world. If you ask the most realistic of them what their biggest setback is and a good chunk of them will say that it is the people who cry race when they don't get what they want. THAT IS RACISM!!!! The worst part is, it is an individual's own mindset that holds them down. They oppress themselves when they ask such things.

Stay home...Never leave your house. Someone might see that you are black or any color for that matter and, not find you attractive! Oh shit! I have met A LOT of women in my time, both here and in other countries and am not at all surprised or discouraged that they did not all find me attractive. It's life guys. That's all the explanation needed.

"Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong."
-Dennis Miller

aztec says on Jan 18, 2007, 05:49:

Guys, a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman in any color. Just think how many of them are available if you don't eliminate considering a woman because of her color. Another factor for us "whities" in consideration is that the majority of beautiful women in the world are not white.

elmodefoque says on Jan 18, 2007, 06:11:

"Then, Elmo, why don't you hook Teddy up with your freakin daughter? Maybe save him a freakin trip to a land where he know he don wanna go?"
By galecito at Thu, 01/18/2007 - 07:02 | reply


Gale, teddy sounds too nice for her and I left out one minor detail, not only is my daughter the typical NYC born and raised Latina who only dates guys as dark or darker than me and must know how to dance, she’s also EXTREMELY high maintenance. And we are not talking Colombia high maintenance or any other place high maintenance we are talking New York "fokin" City HIGH MAINTANCE. Tiffany jewelry, prada shoes, luxury cars, vacations to Punta Cana (her favorite place) Jamaica, Aruba Etc.
When I return from Colombia in March she’s heading to her 4th Cancun and the Mexican Rivera vacation, but she does not pay a dime. Now if Teddy could handle that, I’ll be more than happy to hook him up.
OOooops I almost forgot, she does not cook, don’t like kids and has a terrible temper.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Colombiche says on Jan 18, 2007, 07:15:

I´ve seen a lot of commentsgoing back and forth ....but for a thread titled ¨Racial Attitudes of Colombian women¨, I have seen very very little input from the colombian ladies.

I am a white cachaca (paisa) with green eyes and I love men with skin darker than mine. I love the mulatto look and I have absolutely no problem with injuns, as a matter of fact, I love tall injuns with nice dark hair and chiseled features, but not into the short injuns because I generally like guys who tower at least 5 inches over me.

My colombian raised cousins are not so much into darker guys, they like the scrawny, wheeny, whitish gomelo types that look like they can get smacked around.

I think beautiful people come in all colors.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

elmodefoque says on Jan 18, 2007, 07:18:

" I love tall injuns with nice dark hair and chiseled features, I am not into the short injuns because I generally like guys who tower at least 5 inches over me." colombiche


hey colombiche, that's me!!!! well, that's me 40 years ago.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Colombiche says on Jan 18, 2007, 07:25:

Yes You were quite the stud on that pic with the white powder on it that you used to have up a while ago.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

elmodefoque says on Jan 18, 2007, 07:27:

besides by the height and besides the height and deep coppertone tan, the only other thing left of me are my "criminaly insane" eyes

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Jan 18, 2007, 07:30:

my son My son is me 40 years ago with a bit more of a dark arabic look

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Shakir says on Jan 20, 2007, 15:28:

US Black Man 15 yrs Colombia One Problem I've been living in and out of colombia for 15 yrs and only had one problem with race. I have meet more women and date in colombia then in the USA. The race problem is here in the USA where I find the colombian women racist. They come here and act like americans. Colombia women are the best in the world and this mess your talking is old. Stop worrying about this and just meet the women and enjoy life.

mvefwd says on Jan 21, 2007, 20:57:

Darker The Berry... I have only visted Medellin. I found the women quite receptive. Shy at first, but once I let my guard down so did they. Especially, in the Parque Lleras my friends & I had lots of fun. And met lots of beautiful women.

No matter where you go... You are who you are...

big kugz says on Jan 24, 2007, 10:20:

Teddy Racism is everywhere. My personal experience is that it is much worse in Latin America than anywhere outside of Africa. However, of course there are people who do not care... just a matter of finding them.