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Colombiche says on Feb 21, 2008, 15:44:

And like Elmo used to say "Thank you".

(God I miss him, who would have thought.....)

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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msaucey says on Feb 21, 2008, 16:21:

Your Welcome!

So, getting ready to move back home....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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msaucey says on Feb 21, 2008, 16:21:

I'd help, but, your spanish is already waayyyyyyy better then mine...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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msaucey says on Feb 21, 2008, 16:27:

I'll ask my cousins in Bog, see if they know....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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Colombiche says on Feb 21, 2008, 16:30:

Gracias Msaucey. I am not making a permanent move as of yet because of a couple of things that are tying me to this city right now, but I'm taking it a day at a time and seeing how everything will pan out.

My spanish is perfect, but the problem is that all my spanish language clients are in dominican and I want to brush up on business spanish that is a bit more traditional and clean, as my future plans include doing business in the region.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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msaucey says on Feb 21, 2008, 17:06:

and by javeriana, did you mean Pontificia Universidad Javeriana, if so, this is the link to the school, one of my cousins attended this uni....

http://www.javeriana.edu.co/Facultades/comunicacion_lenguaje/website/n...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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Colombiche says on Feb 21, 2008, 17:29:

Thanks msaucey!

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Feb 21, 2008, 19:11:

Wow, you guys are a fountain of information....... thanks.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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miamimike says on Feb 22, 2008, 03:56:

Too Bad you aren't in Miami as they have World Class Short Courses at the University of Miami~

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Colombiche says on Feb 22, 2008, 05:22:

Please tell me about those miamimike! Miami could always be a pitstop on my way down.

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Man Tequila says on Feb 22, 2008, 07:53:

Since you already speak excellent Spanish, it sounds like you just need to brush up slightly on using more professional language. Do you need a course to do this? Well obviously I don`t know your situation, it would seem to me wiser to either:

1. Take additional business courses (administration, etc.) in Spanish which would naturally include more professional language and setting, since the language alone would probably come fairly easy to you, or...

2. Find graduate student level and/or advanced journals in a library which include articles geared towards business, corporate psychology and professional business conversation and negotiation.

The back to school thing is kind of fun though.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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webmanco says on Feb 22, 2008, 08:24:

I believe your spanish is pretty good, maybe what is needed is to let aside the spanglish or slangs from other countries. I had not hear of Colombian Spanish for Business 101, but here is a link. Universidad de La Sabana, on autopista norte.


http://www.nuevalengua.com/cursos.htm#Español_para_negocios


Español para negocios : Es un curso personalizado que se prepara con antelación, de acuerdo a las necesidades específicas de cada estudiante. Desarrolla talleres de negociación, discusiones de casos de negocios, marketing y todas las habilidades que se necesitan para realizar negocios en español.

EN: Español y Negocios (Business Spanish). 27 horas en total. 15 horas de clases de español, 2 horas de seminario sobre problemas politicos y sociales de Colombia con estudiantes de la Universidad, 5 horas de actividades culturales afuera de la Universidad para entender y conocer a Colombia y 5 horas de Español para negocios enfocadas en sus intereses personales. Clases de 9am a 12m y de 13:00 a 14:00. Actividades culturales dos o tres dias en las tardes según la actividad.

http://www.nuevalengua.com/bogota.htm

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Colombiche says on Feb 22, 2008, 09:04:

Muchismas gracias por la informacion. Como digo, el problema no el castellano casual (a nivel de conversacion) sino es que es muy dificil no comenzar a utilizar terminos tecnicos de otros paises hispanos cuando se estan escuchando a diario. El spanglish solo lo utilizo en un "setting" informal como este, que Dios me ampare y me favorezca que se me salga durante una presentacion a un cliente.... :|

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Colombiche says on Feb 22, 2008, 09:13:

Thanks for your input ManT.

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webmanco says on Feb 22, 2008, 09:22:

It would be interesting to know the translation of business words from other latinamerican countries. Just business technical words, could you share with us Colombiche.

I find the hardest to traslate is Click, maybe pulsar, pinche.

Colombia other countries
Computador ordenador
Cafe Internet Locutorio

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manINred says on Feb 22, 2008, 09:30:

Surely there's a course in Toronto that you can attend like that, at seneca or somewhere?

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Colombiche says on Feb 22, 2008, 10:43:

I am sure there are courses MIR but I am looking forward to being back home for a while.

webmanco, one that comes to the top of my head:

Dominican republic: Entrenamiento de usuarios
Colombia: Capacitacion

DR: Hacer el restore de la base de datos
COL: Restaurar la base de datos

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webmanco says on Feb 22, 2008, 11:10:

No me gusta usar terminos en Inglés y menos escuchar en la televisión presentadores y actores usando las palabras como e-mail, en lugar de correo electronico, o raton en lugar de mouse, se demoran un poquito más pero se escucha precioso.

El uso de algunas palabras en ingles es un tanto pasable en las novelas donde les quieren dar un tinte de "gomelos" a quienes les toca decirlas.

otra palabra en ingles que escucho a ratos

backup, copia de respaldo (seguridad)

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Man Tequila says on Feb 22, 2008, 11:46:

There would seem to be some online courses in advanced business spanish.
http://www.active-online-courses.com/business-spanish.html

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Colombiche says on Feb 22, 2008, 11:48:

QuestionL

Human resources = gestion humana (??)

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webmanco says on Feb 22, 2008, 11:49:

Recursos Humanos, fuerza de trabajo.

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Man Tequila says on Feb 22, 2008, 11:50:

MIR, I think a course at Seneca would probably provide English speakers with the basic terms to conduct business in Spanish. Perhaps Colombiche seeks a graduate or post-graduate course designed for business students who already speak fluent Spanish to learn more advanced terms, local terms in specific countries, and how business etiquette differs in specific latino countries?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Colombiche says on Feb 22, 2008, 12:18:

Right you are.

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pedro says on Feb 23, 2008, 09:38:

'Biche, I think your Spanish is way too advanced to study any kind of non native speakers' Spanish instruction.

Maybe the quickest way is self-directed study (perhaps conversation exchange). You could arrange to do this on-campus if you also signed up for the journalism thing.

Or maybe immersion into the environment you want to speak in (a Colombian office). Remember, the rest of us didn't learn this stuff in university, we mostly learned it by hearing it in the office and repeating it.

As a primer to absorb some bona fide office speak, you could read a bunch of tech-oriented CVs
eg: http://www.acis.org.co/index.php?id=797

and maybe recruitment ads
eg: http://www.elempleo.com/clientes/index.asp

Another option is a brief internship. But I doubt this would work in a Colombian context (being at the bottom of the pecking order, it would likely be a primer on sexual harrassment, current state of play in Colombia).

que nota!

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manINred says on Feb 23, 2008, 10:33:

Makes sense. All things considered, I'd take a course somewhere cool if given the option (ie Colombia ;)).

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Colombiche says on Feb 24, 2008, 15:46:

LOL Pedro, thanks. The internship route is not too bad, but I don't know if I am willing to make such a downward move, mayb for the adventure :(

Sexual harrassment...... hmmm nothing specific to Colombia, I've dealt with all kinds of colourful situations here in Toronto, ranging from kinky love confession valentine cards from my boss, weekend bahamas getaway invitations from married male coworkers who are going through marital crises and unsolicited backrubs from my 63-year old cubicle neighbor lol. I have had more than a primer.... I'm bulletproof by now LOL.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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