skatefrog says on Jun 6, 2006, 21:47:

what? What are you talking about? I don't understand.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 6, 2006, 21:56:

He has a limited database to draw from...tell him to visit.. Eastern Europe for starters...Anna Kornakova ring a bell...he just might want to repent his lies and move there! but, wait, oh shit, that would be bad for you!!...never mind!!..he is a true patriot, but there are hot ones all over the world....some people prefer latinas....


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 24 días...Colombia es pasión!

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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skatefrog says on Jun 6, 2006, 22:34:

Sometimes I think that Colombiana's are such sweeties because they are talking to MEN. I can't tell you how many times I've encountered rude Colombian girls. I even had a girl come into my house, and not even have the decency to say hello, or goodbye. I was standing right there. Many Colombian women just stare at me, and don't bother to communicate, or even smile, maybe it is because I am also a woman. As far as athletics and taking care of yourself, your right, it depends on who your talking about, everyone is different. I've always been athletic, I met my husband while I was training, I short track speedskate, he plays hockey. And I do beg to differ, when it comes to personalities, and character. I really have yet to meet a colombiana who is down to earth, and not incredibly vain. I think that all girls in general will look another up-and-down, and compare shoes, but, Colombian women are definitely more concerned with the superficial, in my opinion. I have a friend who sent child support money to his son in medellin, and, his mother in medellin used it to get breast implants. I see countless examples of how colombianas are all too concerned with themselves. Many of them rely on catching a man to survive, whereas most American women fend for themselves. I'm not saying that working is better than not working, ( I myself don't have to work, and I feel lucky that my colombian husband thinks that too!) I'm just suggesting that the attitudes of American women are only conveying independence, they know that they don't need to settle, or spend all of their time and money trying to catch a man. I'm not saying that all colombianas are after a man, I do personally know many who are studying and preparing for wonderful careers. I'm also wondering about the statement my husband made about how colombianas from barranquilla have the best butts, bogota faces, medellin all around, has anybody else heard this, or does anybody else have the same opinion????

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skatefrog says on Jun 6, 2006, 22:46:

Well, my husband doesn't prefer latinas, he married an American, and thinks that she is the most beautiful girl in the world, and I him. Of course he thinks that I am the best, but, he does think that colombians are prettier than Americans, when your speaking of them as a whole. I'm just wondering why he thinks that they are ALL so much better than anyone else in the world, because, I agree there are "hot ones all over the world". what makes colombianas so exceptional, what makes them exceed the other women of the world?

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skatefrog says on Jun 6, 2006, 22:49:

Yeah, that is great that he found someone, and she happens to be a colombian. Good to know that someone thinks that colombian women are normal, though!

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calipro says on Jun 7, 2006, 00:16:

So what's he question? Are paisas really the most beautiful women in the world?

Dumb question but most colombianos think so.

As far as cultural differences between americanas and colombianas, there is a big difference.

Anybody that has been married to both will appreciate the movie the "Break Up". No way any latina that I have ever known would start a fight because you bought 3 lemons instead of 12 or didn't want to do the dishes.

The mind boggeling head games she plays in an attempt to prove her point and get her man back are something that you can only imagine an american woman ever doing. But even I have to admitt it's an unfair generalization because even I have never met an americana that far off base. But, I'm sure there's one out there. hehehe!!

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gringolondinense says on Jun 7, 2006, 03:48:

hey skatefrog If you want to see some great colombianas, just look at the Chicas Aguilas thread posted on this site.It just doesnt get better than that lol! And yer, there are some great looking women in eastern europe but they have a tendency to be after money and will date any old crusty guy. For me, the most attractive thing about colombianas is their personality (sounds cliched!!) but its true. Do you know what most american women that approach me in the bar first say? "So, what do you do?". I always say Im unemployed. Their faces look so bummed out and then they disappear in under 2 seconds.

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Aji1 says on Jun 7, 2006, 05:30:

No Comparison To start off it depends entirely on what type of women "does it" for you. I am from the US and I have traveled around the world and for my part, your husband is dead on correct. I have never been any where else in the world where there is such an abundance of beautiful women. It is absolutely incredible, and in my experience most people do not really believe me unless they have spent time in Colombia. In my opinion Colombia, Venezuela, Panama, and Brazil are at the hub of female beauty. If you do not believe me look at the historical results of the Miss Universe Paget. Colombia is virtually guaranteed to always place in the top ten. Internal beauty and the personality of Colombian women is also in a class by them self. In fact, that is where they decisively pull ahead of the women in the other countries I mentioned. I had enough experience with US women that I knew I would never marry one. Not that there are not good ones out there but here it seems to be the exception, in Colombia it tends to be the rule. What I am hearing is jealousy, which I have seen it in the eyes of countless US women when I am with my wife. I have heard the same said of women from China, but my preference is Latinas. Tough to find a woman from China that doesn't have her teeth pointing in 12 different directions as well, but of course that is just a shallow comment on my part. Accept it, and be glad you "do it" for your husband.

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airetuPaL says on Jun 7, 2006, 07:47:

Its all relative I would go out on a limb and probably figure that if there was a Colombia vs USA type of event, you would definitely root for team USA while your husband will cheer for his home country...

Your husband is just expressing his nationalistic pride on a known fact that the majority of Colombian women are very beautiful.

Im sorry, but I cant say the same thing about American women.

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bumangesa516 says on Jun 7, 2006, 07:58:

Simply put, the beauty that Colombians possess are up there with the top 10 in the world. Just looks at Aji1 post. If you look at that historical trend- Colombianas are always in the final ten. Coincidence? I think not.

But enough of Medellin girls. How about Medellin GUYS? hahaha.. Any opinions on those, in comparison to Costeños, Rolos, Santanderianos, gringos , etc....?

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love2colombia says on Jun 7, 2006, 08:10:

For gringolondinese ;-)

Chica Aguila

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Blue says on Jun 7, 2006, 08:17:

skatefrog There’s no harm in letting your husband indulge his fantasy. You already know the right answer. btw: The U.S. has far more women who are physically stunning than Colombia, Venezuela, etc., etc. combined. Preoccupation with appearance by a country adds something to its “Beauty Quotient” but doesn’t change the way nature configures a woman. Implants, nose jobs, tucks, etc. only create the illusion of beauty. Nothing more than the most casual observation readily shatters this pretense. Will the children of these false beauties miraculously enter the world with straight noses, ideal bone structure and the proper symmetry? Think again. lol

Blue

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 7, 2006, 09:07:

Gringolondinese.... " And yer, there are some great looking women in eastern europe but they have a tendency to be after money and will date any old crusty guy.""" how ridiculous of a statement is that??? have you read anything posted on this site about that subject? or just have never been to Colombia?? No Colombian are similar??...must still be in that first-time to Colombia fog or something,...hope it wears offf soon!!....jejejej...

Aji: "To start off it depends entirely on what type of women "does it" for you.......I have never been any where else in the world where there is such an abundance of beautiful women.." And if a person prefers a non-latina or non-colombiana, then your statistical reference are worthless, correct?..and i believe the OP was inquiring about looks, not personality....

Miss Universe Contests: lets do the math.....say, over 30 years, that would mean at most 30 possible Colombian entrants....ummm...not exactly a statistic to hang ones hat on to "prove" a point when considering the total number of women in the world during that time period.....30:????????????


Never ceases to amaze me: debate over Colombian Stereotypes vs American Stereotypes..........some guys are lost in a perpetual fog and will never see clearly....others like to be the woman-hater....jejejejeje,,...now what about the tall, skinny man who is in love with the grossly obese Cheeseburger lady?? i wonder what his thoughts would be on this subject?? hahahahaha....



Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 23 días...Colombia es pasión!

"Ignorance is a Weapon of Mass Destruction..."

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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pia says on Jun 7, 2006, 09:11:

been through this many times... My husband is Colombian and I am American. I have heard all of this before from him and various male friends. I have been to Medellin. My personal opinion and experiences are these:
1) More women that I met in Medellin place a greater importance on their looks than the women I have met in the US. And, if they find it more important, they will do something about it (try to improve appearances, take better care of themselves, etc).
2) There is lots of plastic surgery there, and the women I saw were generally much more thin than in the US, and wore more revealing clothes and more makeup. In the US we might call that fru-fru or fifi, I think. (Mostly these relate directly to #1)
3) I met a lot of women who quit their jobs after getting married, so that could be construed either as putting the family first, or non-independence, depending on your slant. We usually just look for stuff that reinforces opinions we already have, right? I met a couple professional women in great jobs, and some fru-fru housewives, so both ends of the professional scale.
4) As a woman, when I met random women in the mall or elsewhere that did not know me...mostly they were very friendly to me, not snobby. Women I met through introduction and spent a good amount of time with were very sweet, intelligent, and fun.
5) My colombiana friends and my personal experiences are that Colombianas ARE very competetive with each other, but not in the same direct way that Americanas are.
7) Its a different culture. Learn and acquire what you think are the pros, and leave the rest (there are many cons to US culture for sure). I think taking better care of ourselves would improve health (and indirectly appearance), as long as we don't go overboard and absorbed into the way of the superficial.
PS: My personal opinion (to generalize horribly) is that Filipinas are the cutest. :)

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Colombiche says on Jun 7, 2006, 09:43:

I really have yet to meet a I really have yet to meet a colombiana who is down to earth, and not incredibly vain.

Let me know where you live Skatefrog, if I am ever in your town we can go for a coffee, then you form your opinion on whether you have met at least one colombiana who is down to earth and not vain. I hope to pass your litmus test.

I can't tell you how many times I've encountered rude Colombian girls. I even had a girl come into my house, and not even have the decency to say hello, or goodbye. I was standing right there.

Sorry to hear, sounds like you had a close encounter with a maleducada.

I see countless examples of how colombianas are all too concerned with themselves. Many of them rely on catching a man to survive, whereas most American women fend for themselves..

Skatefrog, it is easy to be independent when you live in a country where the economic opportunities are more readily available for women. Put a Colombian woman in an environment where all kinds of opportunities are available and she will flourish as well (provided she has the drive and intelligence). Take an American girl and raise her in a place with less opportunities and she might resort to finding a husband to support her. You are making the mistake of assuming these behaviours are inherent. The way I see it, they are a result of your environment.

Colombian women are definitely more concerned with the superficial, in my opinion

Some colombian women might be indeed, but to say "Colombian women"... you are making a very sweeping negative generalization about an entire nationality.


GringoDiego -- I don't understand what you mean about starting a thread in my honor about how Colombianas are superior to the rest of the world. That is so ridiculous, I never claimed superiority or inferiority. We are just people.... not angels or demons. No need to mistify the Colombiana so much.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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utopiacowboy says on Jun 7, 2006, 10:53:

How come you're not offering to meet me for coffee, mi angelita?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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rocinante says on Jun 7, 2006, 16:19:

unbelievable "If you want to see some great colombianas, just look at the Chicas Aguilas thread posted on this site. It just doesnt get better than that lol! And yer(sic), there are some great looking women in eastern europe but they have a tendency to be after money and will date any old crusty guy." - some bozo

And the Colombiana mail order web chick brides here married to our US/European posters are any different? I won't call you or anyone ignorant, I promise.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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airetuPaL says on Jun 7, 2006, 16:31:

That just proves... that ALL women are catty!

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skatefrog says on Jun 7, 2006, 17:18:

ahem, chicas Aguilas are MODELS, of course they are beautiful. Most models are beautiful, no matter where they are from. Just because you show me a picture ( and yes, I have seen pictures of them before) of one of these chicas, doesn't mean that I'm magically going to think, "oh my gosh, you're right, colombian women are the most beautiful in the world" I mean, come on! She's a model. I could show you some pictures of models from other countries that are just as pretty, or more so.
I'm not rooting for America. I simply think that there are beautiful girls from every country, you can't say that one has a clear lead above the others, everybody has a different opinion. I'm just wondering if all you guys have the same one that my husband has, or if it's just a weird generalization that he made up in his head, I want to know if there is any truth to it. As far as personalities go, there are good and bad, I've just had bad experiences with colombians. And, as for coffee, I live in Miami.

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skatefrog says on Jun 7, 2006, 22:05:

ok strobers, let me give you a little more information. The women that I come into contact with are not only in the city, gym, wherever, but many of them are actually friends of my husbands brother, who lives with us, because he is single. I have to say that the colombian women he brings inside are very rude to me, don't acknowledge me, or stare at me, they will smile and speak to my husband who is standing right next to me. It really pisses me off. This has happened ALOT. I have met a few who seemed very nice, but, that is a small percentage. Sometimes I think that it is because I am an American women, surrounded by colombians. I've stepped into their territory, and there is nothing that they can do about it. I know that many of them give me this cold "i'm too good to speak to you attitude" because of MY persona. I'm 19, married to a successful 30 year-old colombian. I have natural blond hair, blue eyes, and a very nice figure - I'm a gym rat. Maybe this explains, a little more, why they might be staring at me so, not speaking to me or including me in thier conversations. They act so sweetie and cutsie around my husband, and stand there, and don't even look at me. And I'm not talking about a couple times. Rude. most of the girls are rude, to me, a girl.

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gringolondinense says on Jun 8, 2006, 04:09:

ok There are 2 baby twin colombianas separated at birth. One grows up in colombia, the other in america. I meet both of them when they are OVER 18 (just thought i would mention that lol!!). The chances are the one who grew up in america would be the least attractive for me.

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pia says on Jun 8, 2006, 05:52:

maybe try... Skatefrog: I am not sure if this is a viable option to try, but maybe try spending time with those few Colombianas that you've met that you thought were nice, and then meet their friends as well. You might be having bad luck with those you are meeting too (just a thought) that your husband's brother hangs with. I have met some Colombianas that I did not care much for, but I have also met some (two in particular in Chicago) that I think are fantastically smart, friendly, and humble. Both very independent with amazing jobs. When something culturally bothers me, I ask one of these two very practical gals about it, and it helps. And sometimes they say, "yes you are right and that bothers me too" and sometimes they will explain another point of view. It is nice to discuss. Since your husband is Colombian, it won't help to develop bad feeling about Colombianas, however justified you feel about it right now. I am not at all doubting the validity of your feelings and experiences, but it might be more constructive to seek out those from his country (which is likely VERY important to him) to be YOUR friends that you can respect and care for.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 8, 2006, 06:14:

I gotta agree with skate, not all Colombianas are Chica Aguila, I’ve seen lots and lots of real dogs. You gotta see my cousins from my father’s side of the family, Jesus Christ talk about plain Jaynes, and I’m being nice.
The Colombianas definitely try harder at being sexier but are not necessary prettier. I like my broads rough and tumble, tom boy type. Of course I’m talking as an old modefoque. The women I now have a chance with are either grandmothers or women my age or older. Just yesterday this broad my age and very plain and conservative, not my type at all, asked me if my ears were ringing, I said NO, why? She told me that she was just talking to another broad, my age too, about what a hunk I was. I politely told her I was very flatter and went directly to the men’s room to throw up.
When I was a young man, I did not care much for colombianas, I was strictly drugged sex craze blondes and Puerto Rican with the switch blade inside their tight Jordache jeans.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jun 8, 2006, 06:24:

The chicas Aguilas are all models, and in the pictures they looks good because they have been air brush, the light play a bit part, make up,etc but saying that some of those chicas aguilas look very European or American, not many have the the typical Latin look.

That is true Elmo I agree with you in that one "The Colombianas definitely try harder at being sexier but are not necessary prettier"

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elmodefoque says on Jun 8, 2006, 06:45:

I need to clarify something, I’ve seen women my age that I would bang in a heart beat and don’t need to be drunk either. Lately I got this thing for Oprah, I’m dying to get a piece of her fat ass, but is gotta be right after taping her show. I’ve seen pictures of her with out make up and man, not a pretty sight.
Going back to older women finding me attractive, I guess compared to a 92 year old modefoque, I’m not that bad and could easily be a hunk.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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Colombiche says on Jun 8, 2006, 06:47:

Okay.... Skatefrog, my response to you was genuine and polite. You pretty much brushed me off, probably on account on your negative experiences with colombianas. Maybe this is the same vibe your are projecting in real life. Most times in life, people's energies mirror each other's. If the world is frowning, maybe you are frowning at the world.


Anyway, it seems as though you've hearing a lot of complimentary comments about colombianas from your husband and you came here looking for reassurance that it it isn't so. You want people on the board to corroborate your negative stereotypes so that your mind could be put at ease (it seems there is something that you are profoundly worried about).

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe to your husband colombianas are indeed beautiful and nothing anybody on this board says can change that. Same goes for all the other guys who rave about colombianas and the ones who don't. It's all a matter of personal opinion.

Discussing the beauty of one country vs the other is like discussing the virtues of oranges over apples, it's a big waste of time. A very banal thing to worry about in a convoluted world, don't you think?

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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skatefrog says on Jun 8, 2006, 07:01:

Dongrino, you seem to understand my point, you explained it well. Sometimes I think that they KNOW that I'm stepping into their domain. Yeah, I think your right, I don't know how politely a colombian man would treat you, or even if he would acknowledge you, if you had a hot colombiana on your arm, he would feel threatened, and ignore you, just as the majority (of course not all!) of girls pass over me, and don't have common, everyday decency. I know that there are chill colombianas, sorry, I just haven't met that many. (Girls, that is)

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skatefrog says on Jun 8, 2006, 07:01:

Dongrino, you seem to understand my point, you explained it well. Sometimes I think that they KNOW that I'm stepping into their domain. Yeah, I think your right, I don't know how politely a colombian man would treat you, or even if he would acknowledge you, if you had a hot colombiana on your arm, he would feel threatened, and ignore you, just as the majority (of course not all!) of girls pass over me, and don't have common, everyday decency. I know that there are chill colombianas, sorry, I just haven't met that many. (Girls, that is)

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skatefrog says on Jun 8, 2006, 07:25:

sorry for the double post I don't see how I "brushed you off". I'm reading everything that everyone says, and taking into account, that's what I posted here for after all. As for reassurance, that's not what I wanted, I just wanted to know if everyone thought the same (basically) as he, and I found out no, they don't. This isn't a matter of MY self esteem, and I feel more threatened by blond Americanas, because THAT is what my husband's ideal girl is, I feel threatened by girls more similar to me, because that was what attracted him to me in the beginning. He lived in Colombia for twenty-something years, and didn't find a compatable match, even in his own country. I think, after reading all of the posts, and thinking about it, I've come to find that his "the girls are all so pretty in colombia" thoughts, are those of patriotism, he loves his country. They love thier women, food, culture, music, I suppose everything is the absolute BEST in colombia ( don't get me wrong, the country is chill, it's beautiful) so, as much as I don't see the sense in having one country's women be above all others, I guess that's the way he thinks, and his patriotism is shining through. I just can't identify, as much as I love America, I'm not sitting over here saying that they are the best. As far as spending time with some of the girls who seem nice, that's probably a good idea. I have to say that most of the males are polite, at least THEY speak to me, acknowledge me. I have a couple of really good colombian guy friends, but, no girls yet.
I know that I don't give off a negative vibe when I first meet someone, how can I? I don't know who is going to walk into my house, or who i'm going to be introduced to when I turn my back, it's not like I have these constant bad vibes around me, I have to say that, when I would meet some of these girls in the beginning, it suprised and upset me, after hearing how wonderful they are, how rude they would act. Now, I purposely am extra polite, because I thought that in the beginning, perhaps I wasn't. Nope, still the same, only speaking to my husband, no acknowledgment, even if I do smile and say hi. I don't understand how he can be proud of colombianas who act like this.

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johna says on Jun 8, 2006, 07:40:

regional stereotypes I want to ask your opinions about this. Ever since I found out I was going to Medellin, I have heard the same thing over and over again. The antiquenos are the most "industrious, hard working, and smart people in Colombia with the most beautiful women" hands down, then they go on to give me impressions of every other region. Then I met a very nice colombiana who kind of broke it down for me. She said that to her all this regionalism was really racism in disguise, and that people have this thing going for the Antiquenos because of alot of them are of European dissent. What are your thoughts on this? and before you attack me, please remember this is not my opinion, I have yet to form one.

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Colombiche says on Jun 8, 2006, 08:53:

For Johna: Excerpt of a recently published article: Johna, you might find this interesting. Somebody posted this at colombianblog:




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Cracking Colombia's genetic mystery
29 April 2006
From New Scientist Print Edition

A TWENTY-YEAR-OLD puzzle over Colombian ancestry has been solved. For most of the country, ancestry is straightforward: male European colonists arrived and married Colombian Indian women. The tale is borne out by genetic tests, which show that most Colombians inherited their maternally derived mitochondrial DNA from Indian women, while the men got their Y chromosomes from Europeans.

Antioquia province, in the north-west of the country, is different. Residents look more European, and their culture is more Spanish. Blood tests in the 1980s showed that 70 per cent of the population's ancestors were European. Yet later genetic tests showed that most of their mitochondrial DNA came from Indians. So Andrés Ruiz-Linares of University College London ran more genetic tests. He found the same mix of native mitochondrial DNA and European Ys as in the general population, but the genome was 79 per cent European (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0508716103).

Ruiz-Linares says that over a century, each generation of immigrant European men married the daughters of earlier Europeans. That diluted the overall Colombian Indian heritage, but not the mitochondrial DNA.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Jun 8, 2006, 09:05:

To your question Johna There is a stereotype of paisas being the most industrious colombians, Medellin is colombia's industrial hub and the eje cafetero is a relatively thriving region.

I don't think the stereotype is racial per se (although it might have an element). Paisas were pioneer types who settled some of colombia's roughest mountain terrain. Our ancestors were known for their hardworking, entreprenurial, frugal lifestyles. Many of our paisa ancestors were actually dirt poor Spanish immigrants and exiled Spanish Jews who made themselves up from scratch (in contrast to Bogota and Popayan's "pergamino" aristocracy who claims more noble roots, and where money and status has been passed on from generation to generation).

I don't mean to offend anybody, but I think today's paisa generation has become rather frivolous and has done a sorry job of following the steps of our brave ancestors... the granddaughters and sons of the self made paisas were already born into money and (in general)don't have that same enteprenurial spark.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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elmodefoque says on Jun 8, 2006, 09:29:

Mi reina colombiche, so were does that leave costeños. I have no Spanish blood! how do I prove this? simple, I shower every day, ok sometimes I skip weekends. I’m one extremely lazy non ambitious modefoque and that’s why my paisa raised and born young wife dumped my ass. I hated the minute I started working, at 6 years old, all the way to present. I’m thinking of the least painful way to get run over (but not kill) by a NYC subway so I could collect disability to gotto barranquilla and get drunk all day long.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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Colombiche says on Jun 8, 2006, 09:36:

Elmito I don't know, in your picture, I noticed a conspicous Arabe look in your face... the eyebrows especially... come on admit it, your middle name is "Mustafa"!

Reminds me of this paisa guy (**John Jairo) that I knew here in T.O, he made a living out of jumping in front of moving cars and then collecting insurance money. He walked with a limp but he was always wearing designer clothes and spent his life at Tasty's on Bloor drinking beer.

** Names have been changed to protect the guilty.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Colombiche says on Jun 8, 2006, 09:45:

Belated Salute Strobers, I salute you back Sir!

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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Blue says on Jun 8, 2006, 13:26:

skatefrog Your home is your castle. You don't have to tolerate anything from the hussies that visit. Let your husband and his brother know that disrespect won't be tolerated. If this doesn't work you may have to kick the bum out. lol

Blue

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johna says on Jun 8, 2006, 16:20:

Ok that makes sense to me Colombiche. That is interesting. Are there still alot of Jewish people in the area. My girlfriend is Jewish and though she could care less I am sure it would make her mom happy if there were. thanks for the posts. Elmo, i am not sure you could live through that maybe just try bouncing of a bus? Or you could try pulling out your wallet next time you see the NYPD and see if they shoot you! You sound like the perfect victim, an dark skinned arab looking dude. Just remember to put on the bullet proof vest before you leave the house. Just promise me you wouldn't spend any of the money on those designer clothes.

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skatefrog says on Jun 8, 2006, 20:00:

Johna why would I attack you? You didn't say anything unruly to me. As far as the racial thing goes, I can't say much about it, I don't know many details about colombia's history and genetic divisions. The only thing I have to say is what my husband has basically told me, and his brother. They say that they think that everybody thinks the medellin girls are the best because of a particular type of medellin "look" they have, they mean light hair, light eyes, I suppose this european look is what they are insinuating. And this all goes back to why so many think that the medellin girls are the best, maybe a more european look is very desireable to colombian men, I know quite a few who like that look, the reason why I started this post, I was curious what all the talk and excitement was about, what was so good. You know, I think your right, maybe it is a racist thing, but, I think many don't recognize or consider it as racism, for most, I think that they like that look because it is more rare, then the darker, indian look. I think, I don't know though. I think the girls in medellin know this, and so, when a girl is from medellin, I think she thinks that she has a standard, an ideal that she has to live up to, this may explain the huge amount of surgery there, why it is so common, and encouraged.

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johna says on Jun 9, 2006, 11:57:

sorry, I meant you as in everyone out there in PBH land. I think that we might be on to something with the European type looks, but like you I do not know for sure.

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Colombiche says on Jun 9, 2006, 12:16:

I doubt that Johna Because you can find ligth and dark people just about anywhere in Colombia, it's not like there is a clear color line. It is just one big rainbow.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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johna says on Jun 9, 2006, 12:30:

OK Colombiche I will trust your judgement, and hold off on making any opinions.

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mzzmerized says on Jun 10, 2006, 18:36:

colombian women for all they have going for them (yes, they are very beautiful) they are very insecure next to a north american or european woman...put a reasonably pretty gringa in ANY city in colombia...no make-up and unshaven legs...and the colombian men will swarm over her...and the primped up, stilletto-clad colombian woman will be left behind, will be left behind, wondering WHY? the answer, as I have stated before, is that everyone likes the mysterious, the unusual, the unique...which is why all you balding, overweight gringos, fare so well down there...OK...let the bashing begin...

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morphus says on Jun 10, 2006, 19:17:

lol "is that everyone likes the mysterious, the unusual, the unique...which is why all you balding, overweight gringos, fare so well down there"

So theres is an attraction at first until there are too many fat balding gringos running around like in Costa Rica...ha ha

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skatefrog says on Jun 10, 2006, 21:34:

Yep Yeah, I think your right mzzmerized. That's also why american guys think that a girl from germany, france, italy or brazil is so freaking hot. They hear an accent, and, no matter how pretty she really is, that automatically makes her "sooooo hot".

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 11, 2006, 01:10:

LOL You're right, mezz:)
I had just about forgotten how it was until this visit. I came back from Cali very, very spoiled and extremely used of being the center of attention. It'll take time getting back to normal here, but watching the miserable play of my team (Swedes) in World Cup yesterday is helping to get me back to earth.

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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morphus says on Jun 11, 2006, 09:14:

"I came back from Cali very, very spoiled and extremely used of being the center of attention"

Oh yeah, but now its back to Frankenstein status...LOL

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jun 11, 2006, 09:46:

Frankenstein? not quite Frankenstein, but more like Frankenstein's Bride. No not really that either, but just another blondie like thousands and thousands of others. As a matter of fact, that sensation of being very special is still lingering on :)

Cheers,
Desi

Embrace your uniqueness. Time is much too short to be living someone
else's life.

-Kobi Yamada

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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divina22 says on Jun 12, 2006, 15:19:

I can say that I have seen many beautiful women in Colombia and some taht were not so beautiful, same thing for American women. The only thing is, number wise, how many people actually live in the U.S. versus Colombia???? So, the chances that there are more ugly, fat American women than Colombian women would be true, it obvious. BUT I definitely believe that a HUGE reason why American women tend to be more heavy is beacuse of all the processed artificial CRAP in the food. And just for the record, my Colombiano in Medellin, doesn't go for the paisa women because he says the majority of them are fake (both physically and personality wise) and are only after one thing.... $$$$$$$ So, he found me... :)

Winners have simply formed the habit of doing things losers don't like to do.......

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calipro says on Jun 12, 2006, 19:38:

divina22 You can take the hundred dollar bill off your forehead now.

"my Colombiano in Medellin, doesn't go for the paisa women because he says the majority of them are fake (both physically and personality wise) and are only after one thing.... $$$$$$$ So, he found me... :)"

And I hope you don't believe everything your paisa boyfriend tells you. hehehe!!!

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begottenson says on Jul 28, 2006, 11:18:

Elmo I've got an ER Doc friend in NYC who says jumping in front of a subway train is the worst way to commit suicide ever.... because it never works. and with no arms and no legs you're not going to be marketable to even 70 year olds.

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bamapits3 says on Jul 29, 2006, 23:35:

BEAUTIFUL BUT STUCK UP I have met very beautiful medellin woman, but for some reason I think Pablo and these guys who take care of these woman hav them forget where they are and where they come from. I grew up as a poor young man and barley fell into money recently. But I know where I came from and dont ever turn my head to any girl in the states or in another country. I have traveled the world and in medellin a woman will be quick to turn her head if she doesnt think you got money. American doesn't mean anything to them, like most other places, in Barranquilla, the woman love americans, but I dont know what the problem is with medellin woman, let me restate that, not all, but a lot of them. I still go there 3 times a year and love it, maybe I should try other cities, any suggestions?

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plastic surgery in colombia says on Jul 30, 2006, 00:26:

what your husband says is kind of true though Let me just say... I'm from Barranquilla, I went to school in Medellin for 5 years and I go a lot to Bogotá. I've also been in the States and in some countries in Europe and South America. So, i think i have the criteria to support what he's saying.
So yes, colombian women take more care of themselves than women in the countries that i've been to and yes, they're more pretty.
Talking about the cities: yes, girls in Barranquilla have big butts (generally) but they don't have much breast (unless they're silicone) if that makes you feel better. The butt must be some racial issue.
Girls in Bogotá (some of them) have nice faces. Their bodies aren't generally their biggest asset..
Girls in Medellin happen to be the prettiest. As my boyfriend say, beauty in Medellin is more "democratic" than anywhere else in the world, because even maids in Medellin look nice. You'll realize this when you go there.

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elchantajista says on Aug 5, 2006, 17:41:

fact of life i see it time and time again latin men married to gringa and gringos married to latinos i go to a latin bar, They have these Married latin guys chasing these young latina girls and the latin girls do the same to the dismay of there husbands , usally with other gringos I'm living in EE UU and where the latino population is exploding and i agree, Columbian, Venzuela and Brazil women are in a class by themselves Women can't see it cause they are women and it's not in their nature to see it, just like us men can't see it either about men cause it's not our nature but believe me, for gringo like me Columbian women can cast a love spell on u THAT CAN NEVER BE TRULLY BROKE
Vicente"

anda de parranda en Juanchito "Vicente"

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hrod57 says on Aug 20, 2006, 18:06:

From Chicago hrod57 Trust me I've seen her without make she is nasty...Without her large cash you would not give her the time of day

hrod57

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David in Idaho says on Aug 20, 2006, 21:21:

My theory I think we are genetically hardwired to be attracted to foreign mates. It has always been in the best interest of the species that we diversify our bloodlines. This is how particularly advantagious adaptations find their way into the evolution of the species. The same is true in the opposite: we are genetically programmed to be unattracted sexually to people who are too close to our own bloodlines. Unless you are a toothless appalachian banjo picker, chances are you're not too interested in your cousin, as cute as she may be.

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 20, 2006, 21:25:

Depends on the culture. In some cultures marriage between cousins is quite common. I've got a few cousins I would not have objected to marrying at all.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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David in Idaho says on Aug 20, 2006, 21:38:

That's true, but weird Sure, in the course of history, mankind has come up with plenty of cultural practices that are completely contrary to scientific logic. Look at the European royalty. They were marrying cousins all the time, until they degenerated into a moronic inbred society of half crazed idiots, And I return to my previous example of Appalachia. Seen Deliverance? I think there was some serious cousin humping that lead to those freaks!

I for one have a drop dead gorgeous cousin who I haven't seen in person since I was about five. Now she's a model, and I've seen her in pictures. I am innately unable to see her as sexually appealing. But I know you would!

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Skippy says on Aug 21, 2006, 13:34:

mirror, mirror, on the wall My friends and I were once in the snobby park in Medellin and saw a Colombian girl do 10 "oh, I am so beutiful" hair flips.

I like Colombian girls, but some of them are way to vain for my taste. In my opinion some of the the most down to earth, fun to be around, plus incredibly sexy girls are Brazillian girls.

Yup

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Mr. Hollywood says on Aug 21, 2006, 14:32:

Suggested answer Skatefrog, when your husband says that just say, "You're right, honey. The women in Medellin are the hottest but the men from there are REALLY dumb and don't know when to shut up."

If you're married at 19 I wish you all the luck in the world figuring this shit out.

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 21, 2006, 21:41:

One word, dude: photos.
One word, dude: photos.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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ibemeubeu9001 says on Jan 12, 2008, 21:05:

I don't know just how much one of our writers has traveled, but I was a flight attendant for PanAm for over 17 years and I did tavel more than I care to write about, and I can tell you my first visit to Bogota, and I was this wonderful lady, walking through the air/port and I new I had to see her from a different side/ for she was walking away from me, so as a kid would do when they want something, I ran through the air port and I new I had to have her in my life, for I had something, Look let's make it short, I married her 2 years later. and Ya, the country just does something different with there country women. Respect, Family, and Love, at least thats what I have.--------Good Luck my Brother's------ibemeubeu9001

I just happen to be from Long Beach,CA, and I love visiting South America, My first visit was to Bogota, Ibaque, and Cucuta and not being a spanish speaking person, I had a great time. Would I travel to South America again, You Bet! The people are wonde

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