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Problems with Ray?

I haven't got news from Ray for so many days now, and his cell phone is dead.
Last time I heard from him, he just came back from Venezuela to Cucuta on his bike and heading the next day to Bucaramanga.

By robi666 on May 2, 2008, 11:04 in Friendly Talkzone.

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 11:06:

We all know three things about him:
1) He is not good on the motorbike and he drinks before driving.
2) He is number one in giving "papaya" around.
3) Bucaramanga is not exactly his place, him having dangerous enemies there.

So... we in Medellin are a bit worried... will he be back alive?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

morphus says on May 2, 2008, 11:06:

ioi9898

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 11:08:

Well, now if just the birth date was 1948 I could believe it...
This thread is not a joke, though...

george jung says on May 2, 2008, 11:10:

And the point is? Have not heard from UTC, GIB, ColombianX,Hunter,Lionheart for along time.

"Men and fish are alot alike, when they open their mouths, they both get in trouble" anonymous woman

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 11:12:

Do you know that would make two people missing from PBH. Car1 disappeared on a trip to Cali; anybody heard from car1?

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 11:13:

gl, try to call Ray... his cell phone is just dead...

morphus says on May 2, 2008, 11:16:

Nothing to worry about...Colombia is safer than ever!

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 11:22:

alright, I'll give him a call.............i'll try his wife to, if i can find the other number.

Somebody asked about GIB, who is now gone from PBH.

I don't want to go into too many details as I don't have his permission, but GIB was savagely attacked yesterday by some foquen scumbags and is now recovering.

If you want to say something encouraging to him, by all means do, and I'll make him aware of this thread.

morphus says on May 2, 2008, 11:32:

GIB attacked? I hope it was'nt too serious.

goin_south says on May 2, 2008, 11:45:

Safer than ever?
jaa.. unless you happen to be the Gringoinbogota.... eh?

Gringoloid... give him my best regards,... just in case he can't read his email, or something.
Sorry to hear that.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Alma del Norte says on May 2, 2008, 11:48:

mine too. sent him an e-mail. if he needs anything, i'm just round the corner etc...

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 11:58:

WTF?
Grigoloid, if you're serious, give him my best wishes.

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 12:07:

Morphus...............a lot of us here know him and know that he would not take something like this in a regular way. He does not sound very forgiving at all if you get my drift.

When I'm at an ATM with my girlfriend she completely wipes it down before using and then after. She also gives me a lecture on being careful around ATM's.

GIB was 'scoped' near an ATM yesterday....................I think he is ok physically but his thoughts don't sound too good right now.

Tinto (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 12:09:

"scoped" as in someone watched him and waited for him to leave with money on his person or "scoped" as in the drug?

PALEOLITICO says on May 2, 2008, 12:09:

Gl. Gracias por las noticias sobre GIB. Que bueno que acá en este sitio uno pueda tener noticias de la gente con quien no tiene mucha comunicación.

Hablé con él y está bien. Aún en el hospital. Le dieron escopolamina al salir de un cajero electrónico, pero parece que no fue mucha cantidad. Y como siempre le dió gracias a Dios por la suerte que tuvo...

Mas noticias sobre la gente acá...

sobre tejasmarcos: su abuelo murió el miercoles, por lo tanto se fué para su natal Dallas por unos dias...

Y cuando sepan algo de RAAAY, ya saben que estamos pendientes...

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 12:13:

This country is weird.

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 12:43:

tinto...................he's not sure how it was ingested or how they did it. as paleolitico says, it was not enough and a small part of his mind actually remembers somewhat of what happened.

he's probably going to kill me for posting this problem he had............but when i saw this thread i had to say something.

He's kind of in a vindictive state of mine right now and I feel sorry for these guys if he ever finds them.

i've been working on trying to find another poster here called car1. his account was deleted but he is a very, very nice person when you meet him.

car1 is from Birmingham, England and if anyone else knows him and knows if he is ok, please report.

He would never have left Bogota without telling me and it's as if he disappeared.

Brians says on May 2, 2008, 12:51:

Scary stuff. Now I am worried about RAAAY. Please post when someone hears from him.

PALEOLITICO says on May 2, 2008, 13:03:

gl: "he's probably going to kill me for posting this problem he had".
No creo. Yo le dije donde habia obtenido la información y simplemente se rió.

Pero aprovecho para decirte otra vez que me parece super bien que las personas acá no sean solo "cibernautas anónimos", como robots con un apodo. Me parece MUCHO mejor que seamos amigos. Finalmente la gente pasa horas y horas a la semana acá (y algunos horas y horas al dia) hablando, compartiendo, discutiendo, peleando, riendose, con otros a los que ha conocido por este medio durante años (bueno en mi caso sería solo durante meses). Creo que eso puede abrir el espacio para saber, al menos, si alguna de esas personas con las que se comparte a distancia diariamente, le sucedió algo malo (o bueno).

No sé. En resumen, me preció muy CALIDO y muy HUMANO el hecho de que hayas contado a toda la comunidad PBH algo que sucedió con alguien que dió tanta lora en este sitio :) . Somos SERES HUMANOS ante todo. No un código mas en el ciber espacio.

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 13:16:

si, paleolitico, entiendo lo que tu dices.

Yo tengo muchos amigos aqui en Colombia en los dos anos pasado y me molesta cuando yo oigo que alguien sufrio un infortunio.

Yo voy a ir estar en Medellin la proxima semana, yo espero conocerte y TJ pronto.

Mr. Hollywood says on May 2, 2008, 13:21:

Wow. Bad news.

Many regards and thoughts of a good recovery for GIB.

I hope the other MIAs are simply having a great time somewhere and will crop up soon.

tomtom33 says on May 2, 2008, 13:37:

Loid, please give GIB my best wishes. I hope he can forget the macho stuff and move on.

Buena suerte to Ray. Methinks that he was giving papaya taking that trip alone on a bike. But I am just a wuss.

Medellin Traveler says on May 2, 2008, 14:13:

RAAAY definitely sticks out in Colombia.

Hopefully RAAAY just forgot his charger and his phone went dead.

I will keep an eye out for him when I hit the streets later tonight.

Medellin Es Una Chimba! - www.medellintraveler.com

Waterdawg says on May 2, 2008, 14:26:

This is not good ! Hope he is just having to much fun to check in ...

nine inch nails says on May 2, 2008, 15:02:

He does drink a lot. Maybe he is in hospital somewhere.

"Bank owned" (www.foreclosurebyowner.com)

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 15:06:

Keep us informed. I'm worried too now.
Gringoloid, when you visit GIB tell him I wish him a speedy recovery.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

slguy says on May 2, 2008, 15:12:

wow. very weird stuff in this thread....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 15:14:

Let's not forget that the poor dog was travelling with him...

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 15:16:

let's keep it positive, maybe he is too busy having fun :))

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 15:17:

why do you say "positive"? ;)

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 15:18:

This is exactly what I was saying in the other thread; PBH is an internet community; people are friends, know each other, associate, help, care and worry about each other.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 15:20:

optimistas, positivos..

Desi, Robie can talk to Miriam here..:)

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 15:24:

Oooh, you talk about the poor dog... yes, let's keep it positive...

Quien es Miriam, mi reina?

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 15:32:

gezz you starting to sound like Elmo :))

Miriam is a member here, but she speaks little English, but good Italian, she is Colombian married to an Italian, she just post a thread in the Spanish section

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 2, 2008, 15:35:

Yeah, do you guys ever read the Spanish only section?

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 15:36:

Next week I am in Santa Marta, así ya me se sale el costeño...

lampltr says on May 2, 2008, 16:32:

Robi & Gringoloid, appreciate the heads up....we all should as Desideria puts it, to care and watch out for our fellow colleagues. Not everyone and/or their families are located in resort areas morphus!
My best to GIB and a speedy recovery!! Being in a vindictive state of mine right now is very natural for most...took me 2 months to get over this same state after 1 month hospitalization and recuperation. Please keep us posted Robi, thanks.

Brians says on May 2, 2008, 16:45:

As much as people raz GIB he is a good guy and maybe this outpouring of sympathy will bring him back. OH forgot no new members and he closed his account:)

PALEOLITICO says on May 2, 2008, 17:00:

gl: jijiji tu y yo ya nos conocemos chico!!!. Tuve el placer en la fiesta de PBH que organizó Medellin Travel en el hotel de PepeA. Hablaste un rato conmigo y con paisa 29. :) Pero muy bueno será volver a verte cuando vengas a Medellin.

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

webmanco says on May 2, 2008, 17:04:

I hope Ray shows up kicking, and GIB recovers.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

PALEOLITICO says on May 2, 2008, 17:13:

Es muy gracioso lo que acá está sucediendo. Si mal no recuerdo GIB y RAAAY tuvieron fuertes broblemas acá en PBH y se detestaban!! (o estoy armando un chisme?). Ahora los dos son el centro de la conversación nuevamente. No por sus peleas sino en torno a su salud y su bienestar.

Como dice la canción de Arjona: "Lo que las ideologias dividen al hombre, el amor con sus hilos los une en su nombre"... :)

Mejor dicho, el post de GIB y RAAAY . Suena bien .

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

billyb says on May 2, 2008, 17:51:

Tal vez RAAAY fue el que atraco a GIB y ahora esta econdido del miedo? But kidding aside, GL give GIB my best.

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 18:05:

paleo................He utilizado la palabra equivocada para verte otra vez.......lo lamenta

sloopskipper says on May 2, 2008, 18:10:

I never interacted much, with either one, but please send my best from Panamá.

PALEOLITICO says on May 2, 2008, 18:12:

jajaja bilyb. Ya me dejaste pensando. Será?????

Debe ser eso. Están seguros que RAAAY no iba para Bogotá???

gringoloid: No te preocupes. Pero dime algo: el que atacó a GIB iba en moto??

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

goin_south says on May 2, 2008, 18:41:

well... I know gringoloid, and I know he wouldn't post shit like this, if not true.
Now, I hope it can also be trusted that what Robi posts about RAAY is also.
I think so.

What about mi amigo, La_Campiña?
I haven't heard from him for awhile either.

CAMP??????????

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 18:44:

What I posted is true, but I would not worry about him... not yet.
It started like a joke (he is not good on the motorbike and he drinks before driving, he is number one in giving "papaya" around, Bucaramanga is not exactly his place, him having dangerous enemies there) and it took another way, for what happened to GIB.

goin_south says on May 2, 2008, 18:53:

yeah, I understood that.
Just checking...
Cause sometimes,,,..... 'you guys'... jja...
have 'so much fun'... on pbh.
thanx.
And, give him a couple hard noogies, for us all... when he surfaces ;-)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

eywed says on May 2, 2008, 18:57:

Gib knew the writing was on the wall and from many of his post he should have gotten out of Bogota. As for RAAAY I always hoped he was just joking about drinking and then driving that bike of his. I sure hope RAAAY is ok and Reports in soon.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 19:05:

GS...........I'll tell you, even though I have a lot of work to do i stayed in all day over this GIB thing. I felt kind of physically sick today.

I lived in NY so I'm no stranger to crime........... my car was broken into a couple of times and I had one burglary in 17 years. it goes with the territory.

but this business of drugging someone with some powerful drug has really taken the spirit out of me. without going into private details, .......GIB is not his usual self right now. If he hasnn't answered you on PM than it's because he is still in the hospital.

he wants to pass on a few words and he's asking everyone to be careful at atm's.

gringoloid says on May 2, 2008, 19:43:

private and was deleted by me

vicshere says on May 2, 2008, 19:47:

thank god i have his email and dont have to break your code :))

listo

RAAAY says on May 2, 2008, 20:10:

Well..............whatever about GIB.............I'm fine...........just arrived back. It was a close thing though............I stumbled onto a nasty Colombian Biker gang. On the road between Cucuta and Bucaramanga. They were stopped at the little village which represents the highest point in Colombia.........

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They surrounded the bike.......It's a good thing my vicious guard dog kept them off...

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They seemed unsure of what to do with me..........some of them suggested hanging me....they gathered into a huddle to make a decision....

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They forced me to follow them to Bucaramanga............Once there, they decided to try and poisin me. They forced me to drink some sort of Local Colombian liquid. All in all.....a truly nasty bunch...........I'm lucky to have escaped.

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Thanks for your concern..........now....time for bed............

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

webmanco says on May 2, 2008, 20:11:

There he is, doing the talking and the walking.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

PALEOLITICO says on May 2, 2008, 20:17:

jajajajaja otra vez como dice la canción: "NO ESTABA MUERTO, ANDABA DE PARRANDA..."

RAAAY que vida tan dura la que lleva tu perro!!

Osea que no fuiste tu el que atacó a GIB? :)

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

billyb says on May 2, 2008, 20:20:

Hey Ray, is that legal? I mean, you flying the mick flag above the colombian one in the back of your bike ;)

PALEOLITICO says on May 2, 2008, 20:22:

Acá ya se iba a poner el denuncio oficial por tu desaparición.

"Amar a la gente y usar las cosas y NO amar a las cosas y usar la gente" www.paleolitico.net

RAAAY says on May 2, 2008, 20:29:

The leader of the gang was a real hard case......................He is seen here, sending a message to Robi.....

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

billyb says on May 2, 2008, 20:30:

se le debe poner el denuncio por volar la bandera irlandesa sobre la colombiana ;)

robi666 says on May 2, 2008, 20:53:

LOL

miamimike says on May 2, 2008, 22:58:

RAAAY--is that a Florida License Plate on your Bike? How is that big Wing with its low ground clearance on those Colombian Roads? I've owned 3 Wings myself but all were used on NC and Florida Highways. 2 of 'em were Sidecar Rigs,,,Looks like you had a Fun Trip,,,Keep the Shiny Side up,,,

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

RUV says on May 2, 2008, 23:21:

Nice photos.

Thanks for the trip report.

goin_south says on May 2, 2008, 23:25:

RAAAY.... I don't know about you.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

eywed says on May 3, 2008, 00:36:

RAAAY buddy keep living the good life. God bless you man.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 3, 2008, 01:29:

wow Rayy great you seem to be having a great time!!! what a way to travel and get to know the country.. take care and keep posting pictures.... and i know as long as you are with your fierce dog nothing will happen to you :)))
Take care and btw what's the name of the dog?

On another note

This is the second member here in pbh that this has happened to them, I always think FOREIGNERS in Colombia should exercise more caution. I never go to an ATM on my own when I am in Colombia.

Long time ago my husband and me were going to be subjects of robbery but I spotted the warning signs and came out safe the same trick was used in another member here in PBH he also came out alright but i think he said he shouted police!!

pedro says on May 3, 2008, 05:18:

Looks like a fun trip, Ray. Did you hit Venezuela?

Glad to hear all is well.

Sigas siendo el RAAAY.

¡save pow wow!

pedro says on May 3, 2008, 05:21:

On another note, sorry to hear about the misadventures of the GIB.

Wishing him a complete and speedy recovery.

That burundanga in the street seems like a Bogota specialty. Every story I hear is always Bogota, and usually ends (begins) with the victim waking up in a hospital.

¡save pow wow!

Medellin Traveler says on May 3, 2008, 05:23:

Love the foticos........... good to hear you´re okay.

Medellin Es Una Chimba! - www.medellintraveler.com

webmanco says on May 3, 2008, 05:25:

I do hear most burundanga cases happen mostly in night clubs.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

robi666 says on May 3, 2008, 06:30:

webmanco says on Saturday May 3rd, 2008 5:25:
"I do hear most burundanga cases happen mostly in night clubs."

Never heard about it happening in Mr Babilla, Frogless or Burukuka.

I am already scared about when I will have to go to Burungotà to renew my Visa.
How can cachacos live there? If they do not kidnapp you and take your sorry ass up in the jungle, or for an happy scopolamina ATM tour in a chiva, you can always be killed by a fokin granizada in your head.

morphus says on May 3, 2008, 06:37:

RAAAY still alive? I guess thats good news...LOL. He looks pretty good for 60 :)

robi666 says on May 3, 2008, 06:38:

60? He says that he is 28...

morphus says on May 3, 2008, 06:39:

You said he was born in 1948.

aztec says on May 3, 2008, 06:44:

Could someone here please give a more detailed account of what has happened to GIB? All that I have seen are oblique references to burundanga. As street wise as he is, that surprises me.

Thanks

morphus says on May 3, 2008, 06:50:

They're putting that knockout shit on ATMs now? I guess nowhere is safe now. Not even a woman's breasts.

morphus says on May 3, 2008, 07:02:

Tell the truth Robi! RAAAY called you on his cell phone and told you to start this thread :)

morphus says on May 3, 2008, 07:04:

RAAAY, tell the truth! How much did you pay those Colombian bikers to escort you to Bucaramanga?

goin_south says on May 3, 2008, 07:26:

1948? damn, now that is fkn old.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

gringoloid says on May 3, 2008, 07:28:

Someone asked about a more detailed report on what happened to GIB. He doesn't really know what happened himself and this morning he is having trouble with his memory.

We'll have to wait until he gets better.

RAAAY says on May 3, 2008, 07:34:

When I told them that I had been wandering the highways and byways of Venezuela alone, and at all hours, of the day and night, they told me I was nuts.

They said Venezuela is'nt like Colombia..........." Venezuela is way more dangerous to be riding alone at night ".

I did have one hairy experience there...........I'm just waiting for my pictures to upload to flickr and will continue the trip report I started on another thread.

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

sloopskipper says on May 3, 2008, 07:48:

I always try to use ATMs inside the lobby of the bank, or at least in supermarket.

miamimike says on May 3, 2008, 08:19:

I always try to make my Deposits and Withdrawals in the "Y" branch on Valley Street,,,,

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

gringoloid says on May 3, 2008, 09:27:

Yea, from now on I will only use the atm in a shopping mall next to where i live.

Mr. Hollywood says on May 3, 2008, 09:40:

Right, the really safe one with the gym in it, and the dead body in the parking lot?

gringoloid says on May 3, 2008, 09:43:

no not that one Mr. H............there is another big mall that is enclosed with lots of security and tons of people around all the time just east of that one.

that one your'e talking about has a citibank and i will not use it again...........even though i can get $700.000 at a time from that atm.

webmanco says on May 3, 2008, 09:48:

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

robi666 says on May 3, 2008, 09:48:

You could take 800,000 if you'd hit "other amounts" and enter 800,000...

gringoloid says on May 3, 2008, 10:00:

the trouble is that citibank atm is off by itself...................the bullet holes are still there from when the lady was shot.

Robert Jorge says on May 3, 2008, 10:14:

I like the Y branch myself Miamimike.

I guess us gringos will have to visit the local police supply shop or military surplus store before landing in Bogota. You can get a current US military issue gas mask for a good price. It could be worn while dancing salsa. Very goth chic! The mask could also be worn at ATMs. No scopa will make it through one of those masks. Pair the mask with some simple rubber gloves, and you should be pretty protected. A full chemical suit would be the only way to provide 100% protection, but might look a little out of place in primero de mayo or candalaria.

Seriously though, GL, give GIB my best. You guys be careful.

tomtom33 says on May 3, 2008, 10:19:

1948 is really old. Wait, I was born that year. I'm not even 60 yet.

robi666 says on May 3, 2008, 10:24:

Naaa, it cannot be possible: you look quite younger than Ray.

tomtom33 says on May 3, 2008, 11:05:

That's from all that clean living.

RAAAY says on May 3, 2008, 11:09:

What is clean living...........and anyway............I was born in '68........just about the time that Robi was graduating without honours from some pissy Eye-Talian institution.........

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

tomtom33 says on May 3, 2008, 11:17:

Clean living is no alcohol, no illegal drugs, no smoking, early to bed, early to rise, and no more than 2 or 3 hookers per day. A guy's got to have some fun.

lampltr says on May 3, 2008, 19:40:

Raaay, Glad you returned ok...great pics! what type of bike you have? Very nice....desire to upgrade my wife's scooter from a 125 to a ?

robi666 says on May 3, 2008, 20:08:

He has a 2 wheeled twingo.