Possible Paramilitary War Worries Colombia

august says on Jul 30, 2008, 09:03:

Naw c´mon now. That´s a little rash. Yes, there are general concerns about struggles to fill power vacuums in Antioquia and there are occasionally unintentional casualties, but unless you´re a "demobilized" paramilitary, an aspiring narco-kingpin or hanging out by the Antioquian borders with Chocó, Córdoba or Caldas, you should be fine. I certainly wouldn´t expect problems at the Feria del los Flores or anywhere else where foreigners usually are at.

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Gator says on Jul 30, 2008, 09:14:

¡Cuidado! If you have that feeling you should not go.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jul 30, 2008, 09:26:

Are you in the paramilitaries?

If not, I say don't sweat it and enjoy your trip.

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romy says on Jul 30, 2008, 09:42:

what if you happen to be in Angus Brangus enjoying a nice meal minding your own busines when BOOOM!! BOOOM!!
or it could happen anywhere... paracos have become 'regular' citizens

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bigtexas1974 says on Jul 30, 2008, 09:54:

Gimme a break...you would be lucky to even see or know what was going on around you unless you are personally involved.

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august says on Jul 30, 2008, 10:13:

Well, maybe more like unlucky...

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nine inch nails says on Jul 30, 2008, 10:49:

Nah. I bet they are pretty good shots all with pleaseant, cordial Antioquian personalities and therefore would kill the paraco sitting next to you without spraying bullets.

Wouldn't even know it until you see the paraco gasping for air with blood stains running down the hankerchief.

Still I think I'll stick to Oveido food court for all my meals! jajajajaja

I love that sweet pretty house music, house music....

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capt_j says on Jul 30, 2008, 11:26:

What restaurant was Antonio Lopez shot in? Probably out of my price range anyway :)

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papiChulo says on Jul 30, 2008, 11:37:

geez... this is really scary stuff... I'm gunna cancel all my plans now.

some of the rudest people I know don't smoke

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Jul 30, 2008, 14:23:

The restaurant is named Angus Brangus. Here is the post discussion regarding the assassination at the restaurant.
http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/restaurant-angus-brangus-in-mede...

My biggest worries and concerns are visiting the same establishments as those visited by would-be targets because I would think they frequent the same places a tourist might find worth visiting be it a mall, Parque Lleras, or any business in El Poblado and Las Palmas two exclusive neighborhoods in Medellin. And to add to romy's comment a stray bullet doesn't hit its target, it kills innocent bystanders.

If the government is deploying special elite teams around Colombia to deal with this issue it tells me that something is happening in Medellin.

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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papiChulo says on Jul 30, 2008, 14:26:

surete gringo... those guys get wacked in every neighbourhood in medellin.

some of the rudest people I know don't smoke

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paulr says on Jul 30, 2008, 14:31:

The chances are so so slim for you to be in a place where someone at that same moment is getting whacked. You´d be putting yourself in much more danger by not looking left and right properly when crossing the road, maybe a bad example.

"paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito

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tasco66 says on Jul 30, 2008, 14:35:

“The daily stated that Job's death can be part of the war among new paramilitary and drug trafficking groups that control games of chances, extortions and drug routes."

So this is all speculation? Not even a “reliable Swiss source" to back up the story?

Basically it could be anybody.

"It also reported yesterday that the government will deploy elite forces throughout the country to fight dozens of paramilitary groups proliferated after the demobilization of the AUC."

What Uribe is fighting the paracos??? But, but, my left wing buddies told me he was in bed with them??? How can that be???

Not being bound to swear to the dogmas of any master

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Jul 30, 2008, 15:19:

Okay it looks like Uribe sent out the order today to metropolitan police general Dagoberto Garcia Cáceres to take out all the garbage in Medellin because as he states "it's bad for business investments." I now feel safer knowing Uribe is not just aware of the problem but is addressing the situation before it gets out of hand. Knowing this I will feel somewhat more comfortable house hunting on my trip. I'm off the streets as soon as the street lights come on.

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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romy says on Jul 30, 2008, 16:13:

hahah many would argue Uribe knows exactly who to contact to get this 'garbage' taken care of outside of the city... Streets are now 'safe' Suerte Gringo, enjoy your time at the Feria.

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goin_south says on Jul 30, 2008, 16:29:

Bad for Business? Which brings up another familiar topic of the past:

CUANTOS PESOS POR UN DOLAR, AHORA?

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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Buongone says on Jul 30, 2008, 22:57:

If you are that Chicken Sh**. Just stay home. If you walk around Paranoid looking you are just setting yourself up as a Easy Target !! And then the Boogy Man Comes After You !! Beware, His name is Senor Reaper.

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tasco66 says on Jul 31, 2008, 05:57:

“hahah many would argue Uribe knows exactly who to contact to get this 'garbage'�?

Many or the usual PBH suspects?

Not being bound to swear to the dogmas of any master

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billyb says on Jul 31, 2008, 06:21:

If you go to Medellin, make sure to stay away from Umberto's Clam house and Sparks Steak House, oh wait, those are in NYC. It's just like the USmafie wars, as long as they are killing each other, WGAF?

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goin_south says on Jul 31, 2008, 22:50:

if you rearrange the letters, Buongone, it would be Senor Arepa

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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Dolfi says on Aug 1, 2008, 07:18:

Of course there might com a situation when Uribe has to take action against the Paras, as the USA finally took action against their ally Saddam Hussein.

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goin_south says on Aug 1, 2008, 08:09:

Uribe vs the paras? what's the world coming two?

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Aug 1, 2008, 10:43:

Joe Kennedy worked with the mafia to help get his son elected as president of the US and afterwards Jack thanked them by turning his back on the mafia by allowing his kid brother Bobby to prosecute them for organized crime amongst other charges and we all know how that turned out in the end.

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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sloopskipper says on Aug 1, 2008, 17:50:

It happens everywhere, My wife and I ate dinner in this restaurant (our favorite, and it was the oldest Italian restaurant in the U.S.) a few days before:

"On October 31, 1989 it is alleged that Merlino attempted to murder the son of Nicky Scarfo, Nicky, Jr., in a South Philadelphia Italian restaurant, Dante and Luigi's, wounding him several times in the chest, neck, and arm. Although police never charged anyone with the attempted murder, police and FBI believe Merlino was behind the shooting to avenge an earlier plot by Scarfo Sr. on Merlino's father. Another motive for the attempted hit was to send a clear message that neither Scarfo nor his son were any longer in charge of South Philadelphia. Fearing another Mafia war, Scarfo Sr. moved his son out of town and inducted him into the Lucchese crime family of New York for protection."

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billyb says on Aug 1, 2008, 17:58:

man sloop that philly mob sure was one disfunctional familly, I love the documnetaries on them. What a bunch of lowlifes though.

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goin_south says on Aug 1, 2008, 20:08:

so low, they made the grandmas play racketball against the curb

“ I would rather be a conservative nut job rather than a liberal with no nuts and no job.”

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sloopskipper says on Aug 2, 2008, 09:11:

billyb says on Aug 1, 2008, 17:58: flag

"man sloop that philly mob sure was one disfunctional familly, I love the documnetaries on them. What a bunch of lowlifes though."

Yep, but a nasty-assed bunch!

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billyb says on Aug 2, 2008, 12:06:

Yeah, after they killed the "gentle don" all hell broke loose, staring with that phsycho 'little nicky'.

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billyb says on Aug 4, 2008, 13:00:

eltiempo.com / colombia / justicia Capturan al segundo de 'don Mario' en Cartagena
Jhon Freddy Torres, el 'Indio', fue detenido por Agentes del Cuerpo Técnico de Investigación (CTI) este lunes por la mañana


Desde hace varias semanas el CTI le seguía los pasos a 'el Indio' en la Costa, donde se movía con algunos de sus hombres.

'El Indio', según las investigaciones, es el hombre que estaba al frente de los negocios de narcotráfico de Daniel Rendón 'don Mario' y era quien manejaba los contactos con la mafia en Europa y Alemania.

El CTI, junto con fiscales de la Unidad Nacional Antinarcóticos, también capturaron en forma simultánea en Pereira y Medellín a otros dos hombres considerados como pieza clave en la organización de 'don Mario'.

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