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possible improvements to this forum

I believe Peter is going to be making a few changes to PBH in the future. I think the problem with uploading photos to our image gallery will be fixed at that time. What other improvements would be worthwhile?

I was thinking a very small thumbnail photo of each of us next to our name when we post would be a nice way to make the forum better. People generally remember faces and not names so this would help with confusing one poster for another. I know I am always getting Gomezman5 and Sylvie mixed up.

As I have mentioned before direct links to image galleries would be nice, or how about an icon next to a poster's name that shows if they have images in their gallery.

What about automatically generating either a PM or forum post when new photos are uploaded. This way we would automatically know when to visit a particular image gallery.

What about a page of useful links relating to Colombia?

These are my thoughts, although I should say I have no say in what gets adopted if any; I just thought it a good topic to discuss.

By kernow62 on Aug 17, 2005, 05:55 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


Dan says on Aug 17, 2005, 06:35:

I had mentioned to peter about my inbox showing a (1) and I keep getting emails saying that I have a new message yet there is nothing in it. I even deleted everything to get rid of it but still there. He told me that he hopes to fix that the next update. That's the only thing I have right now.

As far as photos next to your name every time you post... I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure I can handle UC's photos posted all over a thread. I still can't get rid of the memory of his photos...haha I'm just kidding. interesting to see how many would do that, I'll be one if it ever happens.

God Bless America!

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NorwegianMale says on Aug 17, 2005, 06:47:

Profile description I think it would have been nice to have a short profile for the users.
Ex.:

Name:
Year of brith:
Residence (country):
Profession:
Connection to Colombia:

Nice to know.

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NorwegianMale says on Aug 17, 2005, 06:56:

Subcategories If possible I would like to see "the friendly talkzone" categorized further. Subcatergories like "travelling tips", "employment in colombia", "prices in Colombia" etc would make it a bit easier to hit the topics of interests.

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Hunter says on Aug 17, 2005, 07:28:

Dan If you click on your INBOX and then go to MY ACCOUNT and then go into
EDIT.

You can turn off:

Receive daily e-mail for unread messages

Hunter

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Rubiazo says on Aug 17, 2005, 08:48:

Two suggestions Discussions on race should DEFINITELY go in a separate section.

You should be able to click on a topic and go to the END if it with one click. This would make long threads a lot easier to navigate. Check out any phpbb based forum to see how they do it.

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vicshere says on Aug 17, 2005, 09:24:

Bandwith just one additional for me
when a thread gets longer than one page I would like to see the page numbers on the main page...therefore you wouldn't have to click the main thread then click on last page....I think this would save greatly on band width...and more importantly it would save having to download the page every time a new post was added.... I have other boards I go to and that the way they do it


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kernow62 says on Aug 17, 2005, 10:13:

These are all very good suggestions, keep 'em coming.

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kernow62 says on Aug 17, 2005, 10:14:

I like the idea of a notification by E-mail if someone posts to a particular thread that interests us.

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vicshere says on Aug 17, 2005, 10:46:

another wish list a nice feature I see on other boards are
-how about a counter for thread being read
-how many times a poster has posted
-the age of member to the site
-along with location
-being able to see if the person is online
-ability to post an Avatar
-instant online private message (if the person is online)

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Vic
homepage
http://spaces.msn.com/members/jacintoplace

listo

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vladimiro says on Aug 17, 2005, 10:50:

RSS Categories PBH used to have an RSS feed. I don't know what happened to it. More categories would be helpful but it would also be useful to have categorized RSS feeds that send new messages to your RSS Reader from the category or poster you are interested.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 17, 2005, 10:57:

Your very funny Kernow -- ha ha Actually I can take that as a compliment. For those who have seen Sylvie's photo, they would be hard pressed to disagree with my contention that she is attractive.

If I am as attractive as she is, but only in a masculine way, then logic dictates that I have some redeeming physical qualaties myself.

If what you are saying is that you cannot tell the difference between Sylivie and myself, then may I suggest you get an eye exam ASAP

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Miguel says on Aug 17, 2005, 11:05:

Hey G5 Spelling is not among you "redeeming qualities"...Does that ever bite your in the ass in court?
Right now G5, I am screaming GO CUBS since they are beating up on Houston...And congratulations...your team is only 17 games out of first place. ALSO...Check your PM

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carter says on Aug 17, 2005, 12:07:

travel info section even trying to sort some of the better travel information about places into somesort of travel guide.

Gorgonbob just wrote some great info and it would be best to put it somewhere easy to find for first time visitors.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Aug 17, 2005, 12:26:

Peter I'm taking notes guys :) The RSS feed still exists: http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/feed

Poor but snappy

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tomtom33 says on Aug 17, 2005, 13:20:

Burras Elmo deserves his own section.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 17, 2005, 13:46:

Well, I'm not much of a speller Especialy on here because I am always writing in hurry. When I type my legal documents, I don't care about spelling, that is what the "spell check" is for.

As to court... Who writes in court? In court it is the art of the the spoken word that counts. And believe me, I can do my share of speaking...

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kernow62 says on Aug 17, 2005, 14:46:

Gomez if we had photos of your lovely self and the ultrabrite gal Sylvie I wouldn't keep getting you two mixed up. The problem is you both are always saying much the same stuff and it becomes a burdensome task to keep people straight (I don't mean that you are bent).

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adrimm says on Aug 17, 2005, 15:16:

Kernow .....LOL

such wit.

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Sonny says on Aug 17, 2005, 15:24:

for Peter's sake A profile made public could become a legal issue for Peter. Privacy issues. A lot of people read this site and could obtain a lot of information concerning others. May not be a good idea. What do you think?

Friends???? How do you place a value on that?? They are like memories, without them you have nothing

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adrimm says on Aug 17, 2005, 15:28:

Optional Most forums that I have seen with profiles have them as completely optional. As long as the image we each chose is different then we won;t mix people up, and the image doesn't nec have to be of ourselves.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 17, 2005, 15:33:

Also, Another thing Kernow What's to stop "run of the mill" every day looking guys like you, from attempting to pass yourself off as the "G5" and thereby falsely representing yourself?

Not only would you be insulting me, but to make matters worse, I would not want your political views in any way to be associated with my photos.

So Sonny has a point. Should you (or someone like you) do something like that, than that act, in and of itself might indeed might be grounds for legal action

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miamimike says on Aug 17, 2005, 16:43:

A Space for Posting Professional License Numbers?? May be a good idea then anyone could check the veracity of a person's claims....jejeje(here in the state of florida BTW, this is already Public Information so no privacy is violated jeje Ego may be violated and deflated but not privacy jaja

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Sonny says on Aug 17, 2005, 18:24:

miamimike True to a point but any informtaion obtained without my permission is a violation of my constitution right to privacy Some information can and is usually available to those that want it bad enough but it still can fall under a legal issue. I am from Florida and is the home of my family and the law there is much the same as it falls under the US Government not state law. The problem is that few people ever do anything about it. That is why your information is so available to any that want it but I suggest that (anyone) people should stop this from being public. To puill my credit the three credit reporting agencies have been instructed to call me first to see if I authorized the credit check.
I realize I got off the subject but privacy is just that. If you do not want it out then don't give it out.

Friends???? How do you place a value on that?? They are like memories, without them you have nothing

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 17, 2005, 18:38:

Look a photo is one thing....or an email too is ok..but Anyone that would post any information that would indentify who a person really is, has got to be stupid. No names, no phone numbers, no professional license numbers, or anything related. You don't know who all these people are. Look at Kernow, they guy is from England, but maybe he is really undercover spy for Jerry Adams and the IRA..

MImaiMike, he could be medic for the FARC. He seems to know a lot about dentistry, medicine and a Fidel Castro

And me? There is absolutely no telling who I really am given my past inconsistencies. Maybe I don't even live in Chicago??

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kernow62 says on Aug 17, 2005, 18:48:

Gomezman5 you live in Chicago? I thought you lived in Montreal.

Are you the one who wants to avoid the US because the security at the airport broke your designer sunglasses?

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miamimike says on Aug 17, 2005, 18:58:

broke your designer sunglasses???????????WTF ????? Hmmm que es eso???? I only mentioned the idea of a little block for professional licensing #'s so if one is in Future need of the Professional services, what better then to give one of your posting mates on PBH a little business and $$$$. And if that person didn't want to accept $$$ for the services, they could donate it to Peter for PBH Mainteenence.A Win-Win for everyone!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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vicshere says on Aug 17, 2005, 19:06:

you guys and your priavcy rights make me laugh ...it appears you would have a hard time living in Colombia where your Cedual is shoween for any little sale or for identification....you guys must all be rich to worry so much...its nice sometimes not to have any...don't have to worry about anyone using my credit here heheheheehe I don't have any...bunch of worry worts...bunch of babies


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kernow62 says on Aug 17, 2005, 19:16:

I agree Vic, but a lot of posters have stuff to hide. I on the other hand have shared my trip to Colombia on a webpage that anyone can see. I could sit around and worry that perhaps the FARC or someone will see it, but life is too short to worry. Besides I have made a great many friends through the website. As a matter of fact a friend of my wife's who is staying with us had a friend from Fort Meyers visit last week and she commented on the website and how much she and her Colombian friends enjoyed reading my perspective. Besides that I run a web based business so my name and address are plastered all over the Internet anyway, not that I am getting a great deal of business, but it is there for all to see nonetheless. As Adrimm pointed out the picture need not actually be us, although I would prefer it was. In fact I started a website for my mailing list just because it makes it more real if a face can be put to a name. See this URL.

http://cornish-family.netfirms.com/

 

Of course it is totally optional and you can see some of the members have not used their real photos. But it does tell a bit about each person that chooses to participate. As it is optional and the individual chooses to put their info online it cannot be a privacy issue unless they put someone elses information in their profile.

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kernow62 says on Aug 17, 2005, 19:20:

Gomezman5 where do you get those magic mirrors that make you appear handsome? I could do with one of those, of course I reckon you have to replace all your mirrors with the magic ones or else the effect is somewhat lost. How do you cope with mirrors in public places such as restrooms, do you carry a small handheld magic mirror and walk backwards so as to only glimpse yourself in the magic mirror? What about seeing your reflection in a puddle or a shop window, how do you cope with that?

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 17, 2005, 19:22:

It's the internet so who knows what photo you're using or whose information you've got up there. I always use random photos as well as imaginary names and addresses so basically it's all lies anyway.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kernow62 says on Aug 17, 2005, 19:34:

Yes, but there might be people who aren't like you and do not mind being forthright and honest. I suppose a good percentage wouldn't mind sharing their real photo and a bit about themselves. If you feel the need to embellish a bit, perhaps even go so far as to pretend to be an attorney that is OK too. On the other hand I have actually met a few PBH posters and would like to meet more, I wouldn't like to try and keep track of my lies, so it is better for me to be honest.

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miamimike says on Aug 17, 2005, 20:37:

I am Deeply Saddened...My Heart is Heavy.... that some of my fellow PBH comrades would actually misrepresent themselves as to their lot in life. Joltin' Joe, tell me it ain't so....

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 17, 2005, 22:17:

Kernow......no mirrors "Whilst" I am in Bogota, all those little princesses, young and younger seem to be madly in love with me. I can't understand it..what a transformation I make when I get off that plane. It must be the scent of thr red dirt coming off those Andean mountains. If only I could bottle it and bring it back to the states.

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kernow62 says on Aug 18, 2005, 04:45:

Doesn't work that way my friend, once you return to the states the effect wears off rather quickly. ;-)

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CaryGrant says on Aug 18, 2005, 08:11:

Back on track... I would like to see Friendly Talkzone subcategorized, too. It would be much more useful, I think. So much information disappears so quickly. Some categories I would like to see:

* A separate section for non-US questions (perhaps also in the Visa section)
* Trip Reports
* Travel
* Living in Colombia

I'm in favour of profiles, too. Leave 'em blank if you're 'protected' by the Patriot Act. :-P

Que mas?

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 18, 2005, 11:43:

You'd have to be an idiot to be honest about anything here. I have absolutely no desire to meet anyone from this site.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 18, 2005, 12:12:

Subcategorization??? Real Bad idea. The proof that subcategorization is a bad idea is all you have to do is look at the forum on "Politics". People just don't go there much. Period. Everyone knows that. Often the last post in any of the thread were not hours, but days ago. Very few people visit it. In fact, I am sure that if some of the threads in that forum would have appeared in the friendly forum area, there would have been many more posts to those threads.

There is just something easier, and thus resulting in more participation when all one has to do is scroll down one area and participate/post in a thread that seems interested to them. The idea of having to zigzag in and out of screens to find a given thread can become annoying. Often, I will make a post in a given area, and return latter to check to see if there are/were any new posts, and because so many threads have similar names, I will actually have to look over a few thread to find the discussion that I was participating in. If you subcategorize, it will make it all the more difficult....just a bad idea (my opinion of course)

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kernow62 says on Aug 18, 2005, 12:50:

I guess I am an idiot then Utopia, but I am glad you don't want to meet anyone on the forum, I am sure they feel the same about meeting you.

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vicshere says on Aug 18, 2005, 13:17:

Utopia woow so unexpected....I actually would look forward to meeting people from this web site...but as per your comments Utopia I take it that every thing you have ever posted here has not been honest therefore a lie....woow how some people can be so low why post all your trash knowing full well its a lie...if that's the way you fell about me then the hell with you I would never want to meet you to....some people think they are so much better than the rest....again you must be American/gringo/the people from the united states/what ever you call yourselves..of course not that all Americas are like utopia just a few bad apples

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adrimm says on Aug 18, 2005, 13:49:

Hmm I'm a little surprised that you'd not want to meet anyone from here UTC; you have some pretty heavy time invested on PBH. IMHO if you like fiction so much why not write a book or something?

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 18, 2005, 14:43:

Give me a break. It's not like we're friends - in fact most of the people here are far from being friends. You would not believe the messages that I have gotten on this site. Some people will PM you things they would not have the guts to say publicly. So no, I have no wish to meet these characters. Here is something that is honest - we are anonymous posters on some goofy internet site. This is not real life! And if this is your real life, then you need to get a life. I use it to kill time at work while I am waiting for different tasks to finish executing before picking up something else. It's filler.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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adrimm says on Aug 18, 2005, 15:03:

OOhhh I get it To someone seriously interested in learning about Colombia IMHO a poster's background (whatever of it they choose to share), can provide context on the info the poster gives about Colombia.

If you feel completely comfortable with dishonesties about yourself, then how is anyone to trust the info you feed them on Colombia?? For all we know UTC you've never ever been and are just sharing the 3rd hand experiences of your next door neighbour's brother-in-law.

That must be great comfort to those seeking info here.

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vicshere says on Aug 18, 2005, 15:33:

UTC is anonymous excuse me but you maybe anonymous but I am not... I have a name, I have a life and I have a family who I very happy to share with other posters on here....I am proud of who(even if I am pudgy)I am and of my family that's why I don't hesitate to have my website up on here....since I don't bullshit and have nothing to hide is probably a good reason why I am so open...on the other hand UT you are one of those people whose afraid of his own shadow....what a life to have running every time you see your shadow...UT your post mean nothing to me anymore I use to value your info but now see the truth that your no better that the troll which show up here once in a while....wasn't I mistaken ant the first wouldn't be the last


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utopiacowboy says on Aug 18, 2005, 16:17:

Adrimm, that is exactly my point. I would not advise anyone seeking information about Colombia to come to this site. Very few Colombians post and most of the "information" is patent nonsense. It's a little playground for gringos to amuse themselves.

Afraid of my own shadow? Yeah, I'm shitting my pants right now reading your post.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Sonny says on Aug 18, 2005, 16:59:

vicshere/Adrimm The point UC is making is simple. Read between the lines and you will understand what he is saying to you. Don't take everything you read serious. You will never know who or what your talking to on this site so deal with it with an open mind. You learned this is school. Line up ten people. Tell the first one a story. By the time it gets to the 10th person it is a different story.
The fact side of this PBH is the Visa side. You can check out the information to insure it is true. You cannot do it on this side. Be cool guys/gals. Ask yourself why you are on this post and what you expect to get from it??? Kinda like watching TV right? Some are reruns

Friends???? How do you place a value on that?? They are like memories, without them you have nothing

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adrimm says on Aug 18, 2005, 18:00:

Of course I don't take everything seriously. But generally the more one reads the better idea one gets of what sort of experience people have with Colombia and what range their advice can cover.

The difference between these people can be what I have considered their level of context:

-----------
1) Poster A: "On my 5 days business trip in Bogota I saw few parks."
2) Poster B: "Colombian cities have no parks".

My thought: Hmmm. Poster A has rudimentary knowledge but frames opinions usefully. Poster B hasn't given me any context. I will pay closer attention to things Poster A says.

So to me, the least useful poster is (or has been) the one with no context.

But what if the context is a lie? IMHO a poster who is deliberatly lying and misleading in their context causes greater damage than somone who is just careless and lazily throwing out ideas with no context.

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kernow62 says on Aug 18, 2005, 18:07:

How about a possible improvement for PBH. An icon of a troll next to troll's usernames and a pinochio icon next to UTC. ja ja

Now how do we know UTC is lying when he says he doesn't want to meet anyone from PBH?

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platano says on Aug 18, 2005, 19:17:

Sonny... You write: The fact side of this PBH is the Visa side. And, ironically, it is our friend UTC who contributes much of the factual information!

I try to post factual information in the Friendly Talkzone, for example how Colombia has been scientifically proven to be the happiest country in the world. But then the whole endeavor called "social science research" is called into question. So it's kind of a losing battle to present objective evidence that Colombia is the best country in the world.

Of course, I don't need the evidence because I have done my own research and confirmed Colombia's absolute superiority, "numero uno", the best in the world hands down. I just thought people would believe my claims if supported by science. I was wrong.

And, UTC and adrimm and others are right. Given that there is not much context, you just gotta evaluate claims based on a person's history of postings and your own knowledge base. Reading journalistic reports on Colombia and scientific studies, and literary works and balancing it all against your own experience.

I claim to have posted truthful information yet many have challenged my accounts (doubting the 9mm story, doubting I was kidnapped, insisting I am a FARC sympathizer, etc. etc.) Nothing to do but continue to read critically and make your own judgements as best as you can.

Plátano, el bobo simplón
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 18, 2005, 19:45:

Honestly.....can I mediate a little? Good evening from G5

Let me start by saying that for people who have made some very valuable and serious posts, they are very aware that among those posters you will find UTC. There is not one person on this forum, who has been here for at least 6 months, that can't honestly say the UTC is made some meaningful contribution. At the same time, some of his posts have a bid of "dry humor"/sarcasm when he reads something utterly absurd. He avoids fights that way. He makes his point with a short, but to the point remark that question the comment posted by some person who really has no idea of what they are talking about. I often say the same thing, but I go off on a diatribe attacking the argument with a round of missles that are both on and off target.

UTC and I tend to agree on a lot of things. We just have a different approach and I think it is because he would prefer not to get into protracted debates like I do. But more to the point, is the fact that UTC, like myself, gets tired of having his personal character attacked when he says something that makes sense. I think he knows, (in spite of what he says) that there are many people here that do know what they are talking about, and do give valuable information....

I think UTC just needs a bit of time....Don't attack the guy. Give him credit for what he knows, and if he drops a sarcastic line here and there..just forget about it.

just my take

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RussellinCA says on Aug 18, 2005, 20:35:

Improvements I'm new to this forum. Although I'm a gringo, I decided to post in Spanish on the Spanish language forum. My posts were a little long and I wanted to proof-read them and occasionally I referred to my dictionary. I went to post--and bang, I was told "access is denied." This happened twice. I didn't spend THAT LONG writing the posts. I learned that unless the post is brief, I'd better copy it in case I've been dropped from the log-on. There ought to be a warning about this, and an opportunity to say "yes, I want to continue logged in even though I haven't done anything in (say) 10 minutes." Or is here some other explanation for what happened that I don't understand?
RussellinCA

Russell in CA

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adrimm says on Aug 18, 2005, 20:43:

G5 That's just it tho. This is a wretched dilemna as I too have held UTC in fairly high esteem.

I have ('till now) been quite comfortable assigning validity to UTC's observations and info about Colombia. I can say in cases where I also am familiar with the subject matter, UTC often nails it.

However now, if UTC gives ideas on a subject I am unfamiliar with I am left wondering if it reliable info, or just UTC BSing, for the fun of it. So far I haven't encountered it, but who knows...perhaps I will.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 18, 2005, 20:45:

RussellinCA I agree with you 100%..I don't think there is a regular person on this forum that has not run into this problem. And no matter how hard you try to prevent it, it still happens from time to time.

Peter should really investigate to see if some kind of software program can be written to address this very issue.

I do have a solution in the meantime. You can write your post in Notepad or Word, and then cut and paste onto the thread. This way you don't lose what you wrote. It only adds a few seconds to your work. But you are guarateed not to lose your post.

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adrimm says on Aug 18, 2005, 20:48:

Or Open a new window of PBH if you've been writing a response for a long time, login *again* and then cut and copy your post from the first window into the new window.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 18, 2005, 22:04:

UTC is OK..... Give him a pass everyone. It's just a phase. Maybe it's all those kids in the house?? Maybe his paisita has "cut him off"?? Who knows.

YOu guys know that sometimes, UC says things just to be provocative. Just like I do.

who knows?

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Sylvie says on Aug 18, 2005, 23:11:

Kernow62 You get me and Gomez mixed up?

Now, I get Miamimike and Petermiami confused because there names are similar, but me and Gomezman05?

You've put me in an awkward situation because on many occasions I've written off Gomez as one who suffers from erratic verbal diarrhea, so therefore you are indirectly insulting me.

Uuuuuh, how dare you! lol

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Sylvie says on Aug 18, 2005, 23:25:

AND..... What is with the UTC bashing? Didn't your parents teach you people to be nice to senior citizens? Guy is in his 90s and doesn't want to meet any people from the internet even though I'm pretty sure that is how he met his wife. How else would a 90 year old cowboy get a good looking Latina?....just let him be. If he doesn’t want to meet me he is sure missing out! :-D

I have a suggestion. I would like to see a "Say Anything" section where topics unrelated to Colombia are allowed. There is only so much that can be said about a country with 43 million people. I think everything that could ever be said has been said, and that is why we answer the same questions and have the same arguments OVER and OVER again...the repetition of these topics is more annoying than hemorrhoids.

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kernow62 says on Aug 19, 2005, 07:56:

I would like the search feature to be better, it seems not to pick up on a lot of words and phrases that I search for that I know are in a particular post. I am wondering if it is just a setting as the search engines on my sites (powered by FreeFind)find everything just fine. I know GOOGLE pays the bills but something just isn't right with the site search feature.

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 19, 2005, 08:57:

I'm glad that you can defend us senior citizens, Sylvie. Maybe you'd like to help an old guy who gets stuck every now and again. You know, help him get off.

More annoying than hemorrhoids? Wow, that's saying something. So every so often we get bored and reopen one of the old arguments and then have a 170 post long thread which is basically a rehash of a previous 170 post long thread? Reminds me of the old playground joke, "Hey I have an idea! How about let's you and him fight?"

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:01:

In a way I must say I understand why UC gave up on this board except for just being the board buffoon. I took a look on the other board where he participates and oh boy it was nasty. Some of the people from that board write here too and I guess UC has received more than his share of mean-spirited attacks.

Somebody said earlier that this board was relatively "healthy" compared with other Colombia boards. I'm not quite sure what the poster meant but I thoughr he meant that this is a board where people carry on a somewhat "normal" discussions on variety of topics. Splitting up the board even further will only create additional sub-categories that would only serve the interests of a few. Possibly a travel and tourism section would a needed sub-category.

So, UC says that there isn't anybody on this board he would like to meet in person. That was a pity: I had thought about paying him and Mrs. Cowboy a visit next time in Texas:)

Cheers,
Desi
(there isn't a statement here that I've made that I couldn't repeat to anybody in person if we ever met)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:04:

What other board? What are you talking about? The only other boards I participate on are Visa Journey and another visa site called British Ex-Pats. Other than that, it's not me! (Right, as though I could prove this but it goes to show you what can happen on the internet.) It's not like I have a patent on my handle.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:12:

I'm getting pretty tired of this myself, utopia. Why would somebody else use your handle with the same basic story behind (wife, kids etc) on that nasty colombiaforum? (I cant't remember the name...I guess it's just Colombiaforum)? Just to give you hard time? For what? What have you done to upset the bottom layer in that mudpool?

I know a lot of weird things happen on the net, but I guess I just don't have enough imagination to understand the full scope of it.

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:23:

"I think everything that could ever be said has been said, and that is why we answer the same questions and have the same arguments OVER and OVER again...the repetition of these topics is more annoying than hemorrhoids."

Sylvie is on to something. That is why when I see some thread that starts with something like "Hotels in Bogota" I immediately direct them to Google and tell them to Google this site. The thread has only been up there 69 times.

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kernow62 says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:25:

I wonder if the Lionheart on the other forum is the one who is/was active on this list? If he really did get the crap kicked out of him in Colombia I can see his reason for not being enamoured with Colombia.

There is a Utopia Cowboy over there and a Gomezman5, the latter sounds like the real G5 or the version that is posting on PBH at the moment. Some of the others sound like knockoffs.

Utopia, why on British ex-pats, thought thee was Canadian I mean American.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:34:

Wait a minute Kernow I don't participate in any other boards. Nobody better be stealing my ...."handle??" I have a proprietary right to my handle. Why do you think that I am #5 and not #1? I deserve to be #1, but I had to settle for #5. If you think that you are going to pull a fast one Kernow, you never know how many other boards Kernow will be showing up in.

On the other hand, if there really is someone out there pretending to be me, I just might change my name to "Sylvie2" (short for Sylvio). Then I can say I am her younger brother. I am sure she would be most flattered.

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kernow62 says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:39:

It sure looked like you over there G5, even brown-nosing like on PBH. If it isn't you then they are acting just like you whereas the other UTC is not in character except for the wife and sprogs. I was actually impressed that you were staying in character.

I suggest you dig through your law library, both you and UTC and find a law that will give you exclusive rights to your handle.

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 19, 2005, 09:48:

I think this is evidence of exactly what I am talking about. I don't know anything about this other site except that they use the same names as many people on PBH and write a lot of nasty garbage. It's basically an open sewer on the Internet.

British Ex-Pats has an excellent forum on US immigration and most of the posters have nothing to do with the UK. It's an excellent place to get visa advice: http://britishexpats.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=35

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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elmodefoque says on Aug 19, 2005, 10:10:

To improve this site and to get a sense of closeness and real participation I believe we should ALL have our image posted. I don’t think is fair that I, of all people have my picture posted especially after sharing my most intimate, embarrassing details of my life. Not only do I have a picture of me but one of my burro too. Don’t you think I sometimes wonder if anyone recognizes me as I walk around El Dorado airport in Bogotá and have people pointing at me, saying things like “Look! there goes that modefoque that screws burras and likes sucking things outta girls behind� Hey! I have feelings too but I believe is important to see the person behind the post, whether it be a wise, sensitive, deep, funny or plain ol stupid modefoque but then again if you got the Interpol after you’re ass then I understand.

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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Hunter says on Aug 19, 2005, 10:39:

What is the url of this other site?

Thanks

Hunter

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utopiacowboy says on Aug 19, 2005, 10:47:

http://69.93.149.226/users5/colombiaforum/index.cgi

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 19, 2005, 11:08:

They say imitation is the highest form of Flattery You can bet your life that this is not only message board on Colombia that I am a member of, but this is the only message board I am a member of period.

If someone wants to portray himself as me on another board, he has one mightly challenge if he wishes to copy me....which leads to that other saying. I may be often immitated, but never copied.

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vicshere says on Aug 19, 2005, 11:12:

G5 filter
we need some kind of software filter that disallows G5 from have the last word all the time...hehehehheh

listo
"con mucho gusto"
Vic

listo

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Sylvie says on Aug 19, 2005, 11:12:

Well Gome, it cant be that hard since Kernow thinks that you and I are the same person.

By the way, you copied me. I did not copy you. :-D

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kernow62 says on Aug 19, 2005, 12:36:

I think I am going to Photoshop one of those composite photos of Sylvie and Gomez, this should persuade them once and for all not to procreate with each other. I know Sylvie is smitten with smooth talking Gomez, and he is blinded by her pearly whites.

Let me see, OK I will use Sylvie's teeth because Gomez uses dentures, and I think I will use a couple of Gomezman's chins, hmmm who's nose.... yes, I will use Gomezman's nose so that the nostril hairs can tickle Sylvies lips. This is starting to take shape.

Oh God this is an ugly montage, the horror!!!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 19, 2005, 12:43:

plenty of democracy enzo here. You're the living proof of it; that we have kept you around after you messed up the whole board at your last visit.
Ciao,
Desideria

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Sonny says on Aug 19, 2005, 12:44:

Silvie PLEASE tell me that you and G5 are not the same. I can only hope the "Y" is different. :-)
I think everyone need to give UTC a little break. At our ages MANA-PAZ comes all to soon. He will wake up tomorrow and all will be OK again. G5 UTC good people. Can't say guys now cuz I am not sure anymore.

Friends???? How do you place a value on that?? They are like memories, without them you have nothing

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Sylvie says on Aug 19, 2005, 13:10:

kernow62, any baby I make, regardless of who the father is, will be gorgeous. My family is known to make big gorgeous babies.

Prime example.

http://tinypic.com/auc9om.jpg

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 19, 2005, 13:11:

Kernow Don't you have anything better to do today?

Please go tend to your 50,000 watt radio station. If you keep this up, you might have some transmiter problems. Also, wait until Sylvie sees that you are accusing her of being me. She will not be too pleased.

Besides, I took a picture of Sylvie a few years ago when I went to see the Habs play.

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Sylvie says on Aug 19, 2005, 13:12:

and i assure everyone that I'm far from being smitten with Gomez

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kernow62 says on Aug 19, 2005, 13:20:

No, nothing better to do today.

Sylvie, did that baby come out walking and dressed in a bikini? That's a toddler, I want to see baby pictures. Now I was a handsome baby, I don't know what the hell happened. I had more hair when I was a baby that's or sure, no hang on, I forgot about my hairy back and ass. OK I have less hair on my head than when I was a baby.

Gomez, I will send you the completed photo to your E-mail account because I don't want you to sue me for showing your mug on PBH. You can post it if you dare.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 19, 2005, 13:32:

Kernow Are you on something today. You are just trying to start something//////like ussual

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Sylvie says on Aug 19, 2005, 13:34:

Kernow I was an abnormaly large child. I think I was 17 months old in that picture.

All babies look the same. You cant really tell what a child will look like until they are 1 year old.

I was a heavy baby. Weighed 11 pounds when I was born. Not too proud of those photos.....

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 19, 2005, 13:47:

What picture?? Kernow, are you sick? Why do you want to see baby pictures of Sylive. Shit, she is hot (brown nosing again) the way she looks now, and you want to see her baby pictures.

Look Kernow has been hving problems with all these pedphiles of recent, if you are in that category...get help. I don't even know you personally, but I don't want you to have any problems.

Anyway....it's Friday afternoon, I'm in my office drinking some CR, and I feel no pain. I prefer Wisers Very Old (18 year aged) but the store was out.

Sylive, you should know that I prefer Canadia whiskey over any whiskey in the world.

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Sylvie says on Aug 19, 2005, 14:07:

Gomez, ,take it easy. Kernow was just kidding around. He just needed proof that kids in my family are gorgeous. :-P

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 19, 2005, 14:11:

That's ok Sylvie Kernow knows I'm kidding. He gives me enough shit here all the time. He is due for some shit from me

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Hunter says on Aug 20, 2005, 00:06:

Thanks UC Seen the site before, never returned there until now, looks pretty dead.

Hunter

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quindioman says on Aug 20, 2005, 01:11:

i second all those that want a kind of profile of the poster by the side.
also a function that enables members to see the latest photos that have been uploaded....sometimes people load up photos and no one knows about it unless the uploader announces this.

As regards to the other colombian forum, it is a JOKE...but on a serious note there's some pretty vile stuff said about Gomezman and Utopiacowboy....damn they're even trying to do utc in character.....I also saw that ratbag posting there and someone under the name of colombianoxxx saying he weren't happy at pbh.....who is behind all this...they have a serious agenda with a few pbh posters as well as plenty of time in their hands.

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quindioman says on Aug 20, 2005, 01:11:

i second all those that want a kind of profile of the poster by the side.
also a function that enables members to see the latest photos that have been uploaded....sometimes people load up photos and no one knows about it unless the uploader announces this.

As regards to the other colombian forum, it is a JOKE...but on a serious note there's some pretty vile stuff said about Gomezman and Utopiacowboy....damn they're even trying to do utc in character.....I also saw that ratbag posting there and someone under the name of colombianoxxx saying he weren't happy at pbh.....who is behind all this...they have a serious agenda with a few pbh posters as well as plenty of time in their hands.

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quindioman says on Aug 20, 2005, 01:12:

i second all those that want a kind of profile of the poster by the side.
also a function that enables members to see the latest photos that have been uploaded....sometimes people load up photos and no one knows about it unless the uploader announces this.

As regards to the other colombian forum, it is a JOKE...but on a serious note there's some pretty vile stuff said about Gomezman and Utopiacowboy....damn they're even trying to do utc in character.....I also saw that ratbag posting there and someone under the name of colombianoxxx saying he weren't happy at pbh.....who is behind all this...they have a serious agenda with a few pbh posters as well as plenty of time in their hands.

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quindioman says on Aug 20, 2005, 01:14:

wtf talking about possible improvements how about one where you don't get an error message and then have your post displayed 3 times just so people might think you are taking the mick....
I'd like to apologise for posting the same thing x3 but I only posted it once and it came out cloned...

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quindioman says on Aug 20, 2005, 01:16:

i'm getting a LOT of internal server error messages

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Rubiazo says on Aug 20, 2005, 06:29:

ok - I think part of the reason for subcategorizing is to defuse discussion on certain topics. If people have to go to a different category they post far less OT bullshit. And if a thread like that gets moved it usually just dies naturally.

I would also like to repeat THE TIME OUT IS TOO DAMN SHORT on this forum. How many people have lost posts because of it!!

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quindioman says on Aug 20, 2005, 06:37:

i learnt my lesson with the timeouts..... a lot of people have their own strategy, some type it in word/notepad then copy/cut & paste...i tend to write straight in pbh and before i actually post the comment I highlight everything I have written and copy it, I then post the comment, of course it will then say access denied but all you have to do is log back in and paste the comment and this time no timeouts

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kernow62 says on Aug 20, 2005, 08:58:

quindioman that is the same as I do, [select all] [copy][paste].

Also can't you edit the two extra posts out? If not I know you can change the text. So just type some other stuff over the top.

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CaryGrant says on Aug 20, 2005, 10:56:

I'm still in favour of subcategories, perhaps because I am one of the "few" it would help. rwguide.com has thousands of members, the moderators usually stomp on acrimony pretty quickly, and there are categories to appeal to different groups. For example, people can post reports of their trips, there are sections for American and non-US visa questions, and so on.

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CaryGrant says on Aug 20, 2005, 12:07:

Three more minor suggestions:

1. Put page links to multipage threads also at the TOP of each page. Otherwise you have to scroll to the bottom to get to the next page.

2. When you post to a multi-page thread, it returns you to the first page. Instead, have it return you to the last page, where you just replied.

3. Get rid of the link to "More information about formatting options." There currently are not any more options, and if you click there in mid-post, you lose what you were working on. Yes, NOW I know and can work around this, but isn't the idea to make the site as user-friendly as possible? That is, fewer holes to fall into?

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kernow62 says on Aug 20, 2005, 13:14:

Good suggestions CaryGrant, well the last ones anyway. It is not fun scrolling to the bottom of a long page.

I have also noticed that if the thread is more than one page long and you click to read the new threads it doesn't go to the proper posts. If the thread is one page it functions as it should.

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CaryGrant says on Aug 20, 2005, 13:33:

Let me expand/expound on categories:

* Wtth more members, subcategories become necessary. Otherwise, threads disappear very rapidly. Then someone asks a question that was just discussed, or you can't find that thread you *just* looked at....

* Yes, people could search, but search is far from reliable, and sometimes it's not clear what search term will work.

* I never go to the VISA category, even though I am in the middle of sponsoring someone, because any stuff relating to Canadians is buried somewhere. So, a non-US category would be helpful for me.

* The Trip Report category is very popular on rwguide.com. Many people love reading the stories of other's trips, and sharing their own. People feel the pain and joy of others. And it's much easier to search - using Google or just browsing through - a subcategory if you know your topic is somewhere in there.

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