Poorbuthappy.com? Why do you all suck up to "Elmo"?

famsearch says on Nov 17, 2006, 01:53:

hmmmm.... elmo is really a gringo? say it ain't so...
dan

dan

ixent says on Nov 17, 2006, 03:19:

Unfortunately, I guess his popularity reflects the mindset/cultural level of some people here.

I find his posts rather repetitive and monothematic, to be honest. He gives out typical "machista" vibes, which are commonplace in Colombia, but it seems to be the gringos here who are most enjoying them!

I think Snr Medellin has a valid point, and that, well, to be honest, the quality of some the discussion on the threads here is pretty dismal. Fortunately, good/intersting posts do appear as well, but I would like to see more of them.

kalder says on Nov 17, 2006, 03:52:

Re: Elmo It's not easy being funny on the Internet -you lose a lot of timing, pace and intonation- but Elmo manages to pull it off. And pretty much everytime, in my opinion. His posts are genuinely funny, affable and interesting. They brighten the place up.
I hope this isn't seen as, er, 'sucking' him (God forbid)...

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

tomtom33 says on Nov 17, 2006, 03:54:

There is no site where everyone will like everything that is written. You don't have to read what you don't like to read. And this site is not going to be about what you think it ought to be about. Being a non-Gringo gives no one more rights to opinions. Although I agree that most Gringos, including me, are full of shit.

I happen to share some of Elmo's politically incorrect views and enjoy jabbing the perpetually offended.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 17, 2006, 04:13:

For us who have been on this forum for a long time Elmo has become like a permanent item of bad taste, gross jokes and obscene fotos. We don't react to him any longer because his story has been the same, basically, with small variations, for the last two years. His fan club are all-male, all-gringo (well, almost all). He doesn't talk about Colombia here or give advice or debate anything: he's got only one topic and that's himself. I wish there were more variety to his repertoire.

Despite of all these serious flaws we all love his Injun ass.

Cheers,
Desi




«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

rocinante says on Nov 17, 2006, 04:57:

Elmo buys me drinks! You can't take him seriously - because he doesn't take himself seriously. He's damn funny once you get used to him. If you don't like his comments don't read them. No disrespect but you write:"Please let's try to have a decent discussion about Colombia and its culture..good or bad." Feel free to start that decent discussion.

Oh and the gringo clique that hijack this site are 90% of this site.

La mayoría de las personas (hombres) aquí no son de Colombia. Tienen esposas Colombianas, y han visitado a Colombia una o dos veces; por eso piensan que sepan todo sobre Colombia - pero no saben nada. Eso es porque hasta ahora, no se han discutido los aspectos culturales Colombianos en éste foro. Si usted no se gusta el foro aquí, qué hace aquí? Si quisiera usted conversar inteligentemente, vaya a foro 'solo en español'. No hay camarilla allí, a veces un irrespetuoso pelotudo, aunque él no escribe mucho, usualmente una oración muy sencilla para las mujeres cuando él se pone abburido. Mucha suerte.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

Aji1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:14:

Elmo Bottom line... lighten up. Nobody has the right to not be offended by someone at some time, and secondly life, the world, and Colombia is serious enough, relax and get over it.

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:18:

Why do I get this funny feeling sr.londres is really Kat in disguise? jijijij
this what i think

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

podborski says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:20:

so stop reading it and post something interesting yourself.

I highly doubt you have anything interesting or entertaining to say, unlike elmo.

DG has you pegged...

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:23:

anyways, why pick on me today of all days. i got a fokin hot date and aint got no time for this chit.
damn, i forgot how to act around regular broads, all i hang around are hookers. What the fok do regular couples talk about?
with hookers is very simple, how much, what do i get and for how long.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

rocinante says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:29:

worth the risk Elmo it's the same thing except you might have to buy dinner and talk which is the 'how much', and the 'how long', unfortunately is a gamble. You might want a backup plan.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:53:

hey roci, a back up plan? you mean if i see i aint gettin a freeby, should i offer her money for a bj or something?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

utopiacowboy says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:55:

You suck ups! In response to the original OP's point, my suggestion is to force everyone to post in Spanish and delete any and all posts in English. That would eliminate the "problem" right there.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 05:59:

Elmo regular couples dont talk..the broad talks the guy listens.. You dont even have to listen to what she says.. just pay attention to her facial expressions.. she smiles..you smiles..she laughs..you laugh.. she gets serious..you get serious and shake your head up and down.. it usually works.. if it doesnt..well..thats what hookers are for..

anyway whats that shit about dating regular women? whats that sudden change of heart all about??

also , do a budget comparison..how much for a hooker and how much the regular broad and you will go back to your old ways before you know it i think..

Enjoy dude

utopiacowboy says on Nov 17, 2006, 06:01:

They said there was no free lunch. There is no free sex either.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

billyb says on Nov 17, 2006, 07:03:

Snr. Medellin, looks like your thread.... got highjacked by Elmo, that must really get your panties in a bunch ;)

BillyB

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 07:16:

"regular couples dont talk..the broad talks the guy listens.. You dont even have to listen to what she says.. just pay attention to her facial expressions.. she smiles..you smiles..she laughs..you laugh.. she gets serious..you get serious and shake your head up and down.. it usually works.." Panos

Panos, that sounds like a lotta, lotta fokin work and too convoluted and torturous for me.
Do all you guys have to go thru that to get a piece of ass?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 07:39:

it is a lot of work! Elmo thats what I used to go through ( sometimes) when I was living in your neighbourhood.. American broads are a lot of work..Especially in NYC.. I now live in England and the british women tend to drink quite a bit and get a bit loose so none of what I mentioned applies then.. You buy them a couple of drink and thats it.. You should visit.. You are going to like the mentality here.. As you know, theres nothing like a loose broad.. The next day , they wake up , they realise they made a mistake.. So they dont even want you to call or anything..

You think we all live your good life???
We wish but we dont!

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 07:56:

This England thing dont sound so bad. I like broads that drink a lot and fast. I especially love chicks that DON’T call back after they realized they made a horrible, horrible mistake. jijijijijjji
Dude, thanks for sharing such great info about Jolly Ol’ England.
Kat, how come you never told me that?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 08:46:

hehe.. Kat lives in Wales I think.. Is it right Kat? She went from the burro shagging land to the sheep shagging land..hehehe.. Dont you live in a small town / village Kat? Elmo if you were a welshman your love life would have started with sheep and not burros..hehe..

Elmo dont you think that Kat's immigration from the burro loving country to a sheep loving country is a little strange?

Kat , sorry if i am taking the piss , but Its all good fun!

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 08:46:

just trying to erase a duplicate comment..

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:21:

we are sycophants..guys he is calling us parasites..i say he is a sycophant himself but using the word not in the way it is used in english but the way it is used in greek..

in any case if you dont want do read dude and please stop breaking the balls..

Peter isnt he attacking us by calling a sad bunch of fucks?? its the sad bit that bothers me..

Also , malaka , there are leaders and then there are followers.. Elmo happens to be a leader.. Whats wrong with that??

esanch36 says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:30:

YEah yeah yeah Okay Snr. Medellin now that you've said your peace...leave and bother some other group with your dribble. If you dont like it, dont read it. I enjoy the serious talk here but like to joke around as well. Im sorry that your are a stuck up son of a **#$ that feels he has to impose his sense of morality on to other people.

esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

podborski says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:35:

let's talk about hookers

panthdave says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:36:

Damn Somebody Woke Up ON THE Wrong Side of the Bed..... You know what this is becoming a big joke..
Taking a break from PBH...Too much American Bashing for no reason at all..except alittle humor in the threads is causing bashing..I hear more American Bashing here than on site in Colombia which I don't hear at all..I think I want to take a break...

Will be in Medellin next week to enjoy and not hear American Bashing..I get to be with my friends in Medellin in which we don't think we are any different/We have all the same fucking blood..

To all who wants to American Bash DON"T INCLUDE 90% or Everybody.. I learned that along time ago that don't take down everybody because a very few..

PEACE OUT...

panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:47:

Sra ML, .have i earned the privilege to say that i speak... English?

Hows this Sra? Do the words "bl at at at at at at at at at at at at at at wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeee" mean anything to you? jajajajajajja...........i just love ignorant blanket statements like that! Viva los arrogantes!!!!!!!...jajajja....scrapas.....and WTF is "cliched"? did you mean "clichéd"???

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:55:

I read Elmo once, it was funny, but i chose not to read his... postings after that....i suggest you might do the same...you are not going to change the world by any means.

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:56:

Like I was saying before srLondres rudely interrupter our chat.
Suppose this broad, that I’m seeing tonight, starts talking too much and my mind begins wondering off, that happens to me a lot. She’ll be talking and I’ll be looking at her and all I’m thinking, gee, I wonder how she looks naked on all four in the corner of the bed or how those lips look wrapped around you know what. Should I just be honest and let her know what's on my mind, or should I just pretend i'm interested in what she has to say.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

esanch36 says on Nov 17, 2006, 09:58:

This guy.... Ya got me...gettin mad now ehh?? Ill take you on anyday son. Oh and stop posting..nobody wants to hear your crap or you DRIVEL That comparison to world leaders is really really weak. Who the hell said Elmo was great and righteous???? If you dont like him dont read his stuff

esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:01:

Snr M-L No need to teach me the meaning of sucophant in English.. Thanks anyway.. Save it for someone who want to listen to you.. I do not wish to die from boredom.

Hitler , Saddam and even Georgie boy had / have followers.. So does Elmo.. It does not make them great or righteous.. I think Elmo is great and I am a follower.. Any other Elmo followers in the house??

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:01:

Snr M-L No need to teach me the meaning of sucophant in English.. Thanks anyway.. Save it for someone who want to listen to you.. I do not wish to die from boredom.

Hitler , Saddam and even Georgie boy had / have followers.. So does Elmo.. It does not make them great or righteous.. I think Elmo is great and I am a follower.. Any other Elmo followers in the house??

esanch36 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:08:

Oh by the way Dick I was using a slang term Drivel= Dribbel that you havent prob heard of cuase your on old fart.
esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:11:

It is like pissing in the wind, Sr ML.. i think that there is better things to do in life than to read Elmos postings, but each of us makes our own decisions. To me, his postings are like having only one channel on my cable service, and all i get is Rodney Dangerfield Live reruns....hahahah....but even Rodney has his die-hard fans and that is life.

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:13:

Elmo.. You are right.. I am in no position to give you advice cuz i am younger than you and not as experienced.. But i feel you.. I have the same problem.. I have the attention span of a 2 year old.. After a couple of minutes of her talking , my mind starts wondering too..So.. Size her out.. On one hand you have how good of a lay she might be.. On the other hand you have the talking.. If you think you should listen a little more cuz she will be a wild fuck then listen..If not.. I dont know.. Be honest.. If you are gonna be honest be ready to duck just in case..

Whos the broad?? You know what I miss about NY the most? Juicy dominican booty.. God bless them.. If she is dominican , spank that ass for me!

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:14:

lets talk about broads.. come on screw that medellin guy.. Why argue when we can talk about p**sy??

kalder says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:19:

Easy tiger... Whoah, slow down matey. I respect you for sticking to your guns with such tenacity Snr M-L, but you're just being abusive now. Please ease off on the crass, puerile anti-American remarks that we hear too much of in Europe. They're our allies pal, and good ones too. Bear that in mind.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:20:

Elmo... pick your favourite.. colombianas..dominicanas..portoriquenas..cubanas? where was the best fuck you ever had from?

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:25:

Srlondrs, I work from 8 to 3 SrMedellin, I work from 8 to 3 pm. Around 2 pm when everyone gets back from lunch it gets very busy for me. I have to go around putting fresh toilet paper plus perform other assorted duties. I have no time to get into a heated discussing with some one I don’t know or care to know. Your righteous life doesn’t interest me. If you wanna talk about hookers and booze then you got my interest otherwise put on you London fog coat grab your umbrella and stop busting my fokin balls you rat fink bastard. Sorry I got a little carried away.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

scotty says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:26:

whose Elmo Im kinda new to the site...whose Elmo? maybe i better start reading some of the posts by Elmo to see why this other poster seems to be so annoyed with Elmo....ok im off to read Elmo posts today. but first i have to investigate the juan valdez info.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

Mario says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:29:

I'd venture to say... Elmo recognizes the trolls and knows better than to respond to them because it then becomes a cock-fight (of sorts) which really annoys the rest of the PBH subscribers.

It must've been quite humorous, natural and spontaneous when the pole made it's way up Snr M-L's ass - and no doubt, quite surprising to him as well! At least he'll never need to walk with a cane...


"The angle of the dangle is directly proportionate to the swerve of the curve."

esanch36 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:33:

Why dont you start your own site.. Snr.Londres...you can start a site www.colombiaforlittlemenwhothinktheyarebetterthanotherpeopleandhaveno personality.com

esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:41:

I got this Medellin guy busting my balls, are you related to my wife she’s cachaca like you and she’s always busting my balls too. She called me early this morning, “hey, you left the windows down and the car door open� I says “stop busting my balls so early, so I fokin forgot to close the fokin car door, big fokin deal. Anyways, now I got this jerk off busting my balls and I don’t even know this modefouqe, all I wanna think about is my hot date tonight and if my cachaca wife finds out, she’s gonna cut my fokin balls right off and throw them out the foking window. And you think I got time for your fokin chit, I got real problems here.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:50:

I got a Colombian related question.
I was dumped by my young cachaca wife, now she wants to un-dumped me.
Is that normal for cachacas to do? I was a happy living as a dumped modefoque, now she’s busting my balls again. Find mess I’m in, I got this boring cachaco all the way from fokin London bustin my balls at work then I have my cachaca ex busting my balls at home. No wonder I spent most of my life drunk and getting high.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

rocinante says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:52:

Sr. Medellín "Gringo was not the right term, because technically a gringo is just a native North American English speaker - or should I say American speaker, because they certainly do not earn the privilege to say that they speak English. What I wanted to refer to was more of the red-neck, emerging market plundering, sex tourist, can't be bothered to learn any Spanish"-Sr "I know Colombia and Drivel"

I notice your Spanish is a bit on the weak side.

When you get to Colombia you will learn that Gringo is a term used there for Anyone not from China, India or South America - regardless of language - Even Spanish speaking Peurto Ricans who hop on a plane from San Juan are Gringos in Colombia - but you probably already knew that and were just testing the forum. All Europeans and Australians and what not are all gringos in Colombia.

Seriously you should stay out of Elmo's thread (This one) and start some intelligent conversation in the Spanish Forum like previously suggested by me and supported by UC.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:56:

Hey Panos, I love Dominicanas too, but I have to put a fokin bag over their heads to do them. They got great bodies but not too attractive.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

esanch36 says on Nov 17, 2006, 10:57:

ughhhhh not sure about that. Im pretty sure just people from the US are considerd gringos I hung out with some canadians in bogota and all the colombians would refer only to me as a gringo.


esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 11:08:

Hey kat, please help me out with my horrible dilemma. How do I keep my ex from un-dumping me? I wanna continue living my life as a single guy. Why do I have to be so fokin irresistible to all my ex? I keep in touch with every single one of them and still have to do most of them. WTF is up with that? I wanna be left alone. All I want now are hookers.
kat, if you help me, te prometo que no me meto mas contigo, lo juro!.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 11:08:

elmo thats big news getting back with your wife.. that comes as a surprise....

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 17, 2006, 11:12:

no comment Panos, I am not going to trash out girl from other countries.:)

engage brain before opening mouth

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 11:25:

After I was abruptly dumped, I began planning my life as single modefoque. Buy a super brand new apt in Barranquilla and put all the latest high-tech stuff, plasmas, stereos, computers etc. Have an extra room for all my gringo buddies to visit. Swap pre-pagos with TomTom over in Cartagena, then she shows up. And that’s after busting a lamp over my head and messing up my handsome face and then nearly biting my arm off. Yeah, you heard right, she almost bit my fokin arm right off. That young bit-h got perfect powerful sharp teeth and this happened in expensive fancy Prado Hotel in fokin Barranquilla. The entire room was a bloody mess, my fokin blood.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Mr. Hollywood says on Nov 17, 2006, 11:28:

I suck up because Elmo paypals me $1,000 a month to do it. Are you pissed because you didn't get your payout, too, Snr. M-L?

elmodefoque says on Nov 17, 2006, 11:29:

And all that ONLY cus I wanted to bang this young hooker.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

PanosL1 says on Nov 17, 2006, 11:44:

you told you wife you wanted to bang a hooker?? or did she find out somehow?if you got away with just a bite on the arm...you are a lucky mofo.. i am surprised the cops in Baq didnt find your balls or part of your dick on some side street near the hotel..

poco says on Nov 17, 2006, 16:03:

Years ago The totally incorrect information and “spin� on this site made it difficult to split the chaff from the wheat. The mentality of some posters made be believe in the fact that AMBULATORY BRAIN DEATH existed.

I’ve read elmo’s posts for years and when he says something about Colombia it is his opinion of the truth,, but truth it is.

He has much knowledge. I’ve the opinion some of it is from 20+ plus years ago.

Generally, I’ve yet to see a post with some insight of how the lower 50% live and think, or at least a post that matches my experience of living in a rural town. The one exception has been elmo and a poster called Cockney Colombian.

Anyway, a review of the wood “drying� for my latest project was necessary.



Necessary to get past the “drying yard dog�,, kind of like a junk yard dog,, but in Colombia there are not many junk yards.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

billyb says on Nov 17, 2006, 17:21:

Poco, I never thought of that before.... but it's true, there are no junkyards in Colombia. I guess that might be because nobody ever throws anything away.

BillyB

Crazy4Cali says on Nov 17, 2006, 17:38:

Why do we suck up to elmo? That's easy.

We all hope he'll introduce us to one of his burras the next time we're in Colombia.

(Geez, like it wasn't obvious?!)

famsearch says on Nov 17, 2006, 18:06:

i think i've figured out the appeal of elmo... what it boils down to, is summed up in a phrase that my wife likes to use, and i think it is common amongst most colombians. the phrase is: "happy de alive!". even with his horrid upbringing, and everything else, elmo hasn't lost the feeling of simply being happy to be alive. then again, i could be all wrong... lol
dan

dan

scotty says on Nov 18, 2006, 00:15:

elmo I read a few of Elmos posts , he seems quit harmless to me. Every chat site you go to there will be one or two or more guys that are jokesters. It doesnt really bother me in fact it sort breaks up the sometimes serious or boring moods that develop on chat sites.A joke or silly story omce in a while is ok with me.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

Buongone says on Nov 18, 2006, 03:12:

Elmo Was reading a post the other night. This guy said he was hijacked by the 3 Stooges, and Laurel and Hardy, and Gang. Laughed my Ass off. This one seems a bit more serious. Like alot of people say. If you don't like his posts, don't read them. Remember the 1st Ammendment. (Oh, that's right. That's for GRINGOS!) Most people on this site probably don't even know where the term gringo came from? Elmo. Who's that in the pic with the Blk/Wht hat on, at the restaurant?
Chao!

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 18, 2006, 03:31:

hehe I don't think there's anyone
here doesn't know where the term "gringo" comes from so many times we have discussed it here :)

Cheers,
Desi
«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

panthdave says on Nov 18, 2006, 04:42:

If I am Correct Gringo Came from the Mexico-Texas War For the battle of Texas. Can't remember..It came from Mexico somewhere..I always thought it came from Vietnam Vets that went to Mexico..but was wrong..All I know Gringo came from Mexico...



panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

aztec says on Nov 18, 2006, 06:01:

One thing when... ...a Colombian uses the term and an entirely different matter when a Mexican calls you a gringo. Most of don't believe the term is used as a term of "endearment" by Mexicans but rather as a derogatory term.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 18, 2006, 06:09:

no, that's not it we have discussed the origin of the word "gringo" in several threads and have found out that it doesn't come from Mexico but from the Iberian peninsula...the word was known already in the 17 century Spain.

From Urban Legends:

"Gringo


Claim: The word gringo comes from Mexicans' overhearing American soldiers sing the song "Green Grow the Lilacs" during the Mexican-American War.
Status: False.

Origins: This
rather improbable saga of the origins of the word "gringo" has it that the term began during the Mexican-American War (1846-48), when Mexicans supposedly overheard American soldiers continually singing either "Green Grow the Lilacs" or "Green grow the rushes, O" (a song based upon a Robert Burns poem). The Spanish-speaking Mexicans began referring derisively to the Americans as "green grows" (rendered phonetically in Spanish as gringos), which soon became a pejorative Spanish-language term for "foreigners" (particularly Americans).

Other versions of this etymological legend attribute the singing to Irish Legion volunteers serving in Simon Bolivar's army during Venezuela's war for independence from Spain in the early 19th century, "cowboys in south Texas," or American troops attempting to track down Pancho Villa in Mexico in 1916-17.

All of these charming explanations have chronology working against them. Although the first recorded use of "gringo" in English dates from 1849 (when John Woodhouse Audubon, the son of the famous nature artist, wrote that "We were hooted and shouted at as we passed through, and called 'Gringoes'"), the word was known in Spanish well before the Mexican-American War. According to Rawson, the Diccionario Castellano of 1787 noted that in Malaga "foreigners who have a certain type of accent which keeps them from speaking Spanish easily and naturally" were referred to as gringos, and the same term was used in Madrid, particularly for the Irish.

The true origin of gringo is most likely that it came from griego, the Spanish word for "Greek." In Spanish, as in English, something difficult or impossible to understand is referred to as being Greek: We say "It's Greek to me," just as in Spanish an incomprehensible person is said to hablar en griego (i.e., "speak in Greek"). The English version of the proverb shows up in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar (1599), when Casca, one of the conspirators against Caesar, proclaims:


Nay, an I tell you that, I'll ne'er look you i' the face again; but those that understood him smiled at one another and shook their heads; but for mine own part, it was Greek to me.
The same phrase was also used (at about the same time) by another Elizabethan playwright, Thomas Dekker, but its origins are much older: it comes from the Medieval Latin proverb Graecum est; non potest legi (i.e., "It is Greek; it cannot be read").

It is certainly possible (and even likely) that the Mexican-American War precipitated the introduction of the Spanish word gringo into the English language, but the word itself antedates that conflict by at least sixty years and had nothing to do with singing soldiers, American or otherwise."

http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/gringo.htm

Cheers,
Desi








«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 18, 2006, 06:14:

from another source: Etymology
The Spanish etymologist Joan Corominas states that gringo is derived from griego[1] (Spanish for "Greek"), the proverbial name for an unintelligible language (a usage found also in the Shakespearean "it was Greek to me" and its derivative "It's all Greek to me"). From referring simply to language, it was extended to people speaking foreign tongues and to their physical features - similar to the development of the ancient Greek word βάÏ?βαÏ?ος (bárbaros) - "Barbarian".


[edit] False etymologies
A recurring false etymology for the derivation of gringo states that it originated during the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. It has been claimed that Gringo comes from "green coat" and was used in reference to the American soldiers and the green color of their uniforms. Yet another story, from Mexico, holds that Mexicans with knowledge of the English language used to write "greens go home" on street walls referring to the color of the uniforms of the invading army; subsequently, it became a common habitual action for the rest of the population to yell "green go" whenever U.S. soldiers passed by. This is an example of an invented explanation, because gringo was used in Spanish long before the war and during the Mexican-American War. Additionally, the U.S. Army did not use green uniforms at the time, but blue ones. [2]

Another legend maintains that one of two songs – either "Green Grow the Lilacs" or "Green Grow the Rushes, O" – was popular at the time and that Mexicans heard the invading U.S. troops singing "Green grow..." and contracted this into gringo.

Another version, heard in Brazil, refers to the United States Air Force base near Natal, Brazil during World War II. The American soldiers, wearing green uniforms, would be commanded "green, go!" by their sergeants during training.

The story of "Green Coat" can also be heard in most other Latin American countries, with numerous variations. Some stories have the term originating as recently as the Vietnam war. Other stories attribute the term to other conflicts, all of which occurred too late in history to account for the earliest usages of the word.

Yet another version, also heard in Brazil, claims that when the British were building the railroads in Brazil in the beginning of the century, they would instruct the locals on how traffic lights worked: Red, Stop. Green, Go. The British were thereafter known as "gringo".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gringo

Cheers,
Desi


«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

Rubito says on Nov 18, 2006, 06:24:

S-y-n-c-o-p-h-a-n-t para que SEPAN!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

aztec says on Nov 18, 2006, 06:28:

Don't care... ...where the word gringo came from. Just know that many North Americans believe it is a derogatory term when used by a Mexican.

panthdave says on Nov 18, 2006, 07:33:

Thanks Desi....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I know...Damn that word has history...

panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

Sam Salmon says on Nov 18, 2006, 10:24:

Some people here need to think seriously about getting a life!






' a la orden!'

' a la orden!'

Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 18, 2006, 11:09:

aztec is entirely correct when "gringo" is used by Mexicans and especially in California. It is a derogatory word towards Caucasins here, and as i have posted many times, it is the equivalent of the N-word, and is meant as such. Hence, the word itself, whether the G-word or the N-word, is derogatory depending on the INTENT of the speaker. The word itself can be used in a innocent, neutral,and non-racist manner. (ie, its use in Colombia, etc)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 18, 2006, 11:14:

Since Americans are a Crisis-Driven Society, & love a Conspiracy I propose that Elmo and Sr Medellin-Londres are ONE AND THE SAME PERSON! Think about it, has anyone here on PBH ever seen the two of them together at the same time????????????????? Food for thought! jajajaj..kind of like a Yin/Yang, Alter Ego, split personality type phenomonom!!!!!!!!!!! Cant wait to read the National Enquirer verson of PBH due out soon along with OJ Simpsons "If I Did It" book!

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...Listo!! Libertad!!!...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

goin_south says on Nov 18, 2006, 11:57:

Geez, I'm still trying to figure how juanpbadillo.. ...has concluded that Rubito y Don Gringo are boy friends??? WTF? But, if you cross the two, then either Don Rubito or RubitoGringo has a certain melodious ring.

"Tengo mucha compasión para el jpdillo."

and, thank you.

goin_south says on Nov 18, 2006, 12:20:

Sr M-L..... we "all suckup to Elmo" because... ...deep belly laughter is good for the soul, good for your health. (But, not so good for your keyboard, when drinking!)
Besides, Elmo is like a bad rash; he ain't going away.

and, thank you.

alexis33015 says on Nov 18, 2006, 12:49:

boring SPAM!

goin_south says on Nov 18, 2006, 14:27:

hola alexis "Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

and, thank you.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 18, 2006, 15:10:

galecito i think you're always drinking when you are on the keyboard.

remember don't drink and write ;p

engage brain before opening mouth

podborski says on Nov 18, 2006, 15:48:

Snr londres medellin writes 'Try to confront the argument head on next time and do your homework BEFORE YOU TAKE SOMEONE ON.'

Yes, you are quite the cultured intellectual. Do you realize you come across as a pathetic 12 year old who can't have things his way?

el norteño says on Nov 18, 2006, 18:12:

Sr. London Typical arrogant limey bassturd.

billyb says on Nov 18, 2006, 18:33:

Why Kat, Galecito is the very... voice of sobriety itself ;)

BillyB

laguerejaloka says on Nov 18, 2006, 21:00:

How old are you elmo? Im not being sacastic i just want to know..cuz if your 15 and under then i fully understand your stupid machista talk, if your older i think we gotta problem here. cant we talk about colombia??! Although learning how to catch a cheap hooker is oh so intriging, im sure some of us would find other topics interesting too (except for PenosL1 who seems to be having a major identity crisis!!!)
~la guera~

~la guera~

Rubito says on Nov 18, 2006, 21:24:

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

the pics of himself Elmo put up on this site are REAL!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

goin_south says on Nov 18, 2006, 21:55:

Rubito As if we doubted.

"Tengo mucha compasión para el loro."

and, thank you.

Miguel says on Nov 19, 2006, 01:22:

You guys are real Dick Tracy's Elmo IS a GRINGO and he IS 15 freaking years OLD! ¡PBSH siempre!

goin_south says on Nov 21, 2006, 00:12:

Thanks, Billyb...Kat1 Kat1, I just completely char-baked two arepas while pondering why and what you think I am always drinking while on pbh keybored

and, thank you.