Political Leaning of El Tiempo

ShazCas says on Sep 7, 2004, 05:09:

Correction: I'm using Le Monde as it's a national daily, like the Guardian and El Tiempo. And having thought about it, what I mean is that the political leanings of Le Monde and the Guardian are centre-left, and would you say El Tiempo is also centre-left? Or centre-right?

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Gator says on Sep 7, 2004, 05:34:

To the right and conservative I would use "El Tiempo" since it is the "New York Times" of Colombia

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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sandrusca says on Sep 7, 2004, 05:52:

not left wing Hola. I wouldn't say El Tiempo has an orientation similar to The Guardian's or Le Monde Dilomatique. It's hard to pin point its orientation; in its origins, it was a paper affiliated with Colombia's liberal party, where many of its interest still lie, but in my opinion, it would be more adequately described as "governist" (not sure if that's a word in english, but I hope you'll understand). Anyway, it is far from being left-wing. If what you need is something of that sort, El Tiempo might is not the best choice.
On the side...I don't think we actually have anything of that sort as far as newspapers go!; maybe El Espectador at certain points (specially during the years of the drug cartel wars, when they had to take some serious heat for their opposition and investigations), but since they got tangled in the economic crisis and had to become a weekly publication, they have lost a lot--and so has the country, since now we're stuck mostly with El Tiempo. This doesn't mean the smallest regional newspaper aren't important, or that ET's opinions are carved in stone...but hey...

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ShazCas says on Sep 7, 2004, 06:04:

Thanks guys! Sandrusca, that's why I had the idea that El Tiempo may be similar to the Guardian, because of its Colombian liberal roots. Whe you say "gobernista" do you mean it always agrees with whatever government is in power, or that it supports Uribe's government at the moment? (which I know is not at all centre-left)

Tinto, I didn't know that and I must confess I don't know who the V.P. Santos are, but I see what you mean!

Gator, the thing is I wanted to use three newspapers, not just one, one from the UK, one from France and one from Colombia, to see what kind of language they used when reporting Ingrid Betancourt's kidnapping, to see how the language used differs and what that means. I thought it would be interesting, but it seems that how can you compare apples with bananas? There's not much point!

Oh well, it's back to the drawing board! Thanks guys!

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 7, 2004, 06:39:

Vice President Santos Shazcas, Vice President Francisco Santos is a member of the Santos family, who own El Tiempo. And he was the former editor-in-chief of the paper. I would say the paper is very centrist in its leanings. They definately support the status quo but aren't blind to injustice and problems in Colombia.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Sep 7, 2004, 07:12:

Might be hard to find a large, center-left media voice in Colombia. Even El Espectador, as Mr. Hollywood mentions, has changed hands and is now part of the Santo Domingo empire. I put together this list about a year ago; I believe it is still accurate.



http://home.earthlink.net/~cafe.tinto/media.htm

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litost says on Sep 7, 2004, 10:51:

Yeah, I'd say it's more around the centre-right, but as a mirror to the political arena itself it is really not unified or easy to classify. Since there is no other important national newspaper it tries to some extent to have all viewpoints, including many left leaning people as the ones seen in the Columnas de Opinion. But the general tone, I guess would be slightly to the right, but again, I think this is mostly due to the general perception in most colombians that the first and foremost priority now is recovering the security and right to live a life free of fear and threat.

I think that Le Monde and Guardian are center-left, because they CAN be, they don't have a gun to their head 24-7 as colombians do.

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litost says on Sep 7, 2004, 10:53:

Let me clarify this last statement which may be interpreted wrong, I mean that all of us colombians have a gun to our head coming from all the illegal armed groups... I don't mean that there is a gun to the head of people leaning to the left, though this might occasionally be true.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 7, 2004, 11:23:

re the Guardian Also, the Guardian is a much more blue collar/working class paper. El Tiempo is like the Washington Post or NY Times. It's the paper of political opinion and the ruling class.

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SiV says on Sep 7, 2004, 14:43:

RE: re the Guardian Sorry, Mr. Hollywood, but The Guardian (at least the British version. I assume that´s what your talking about) is very far from being a blue collar/ working class newspaper. Whilst quite Left-Centre it doesn´t have it´s original roots in the the British working class socialist movements, and it´s readership are more middle-class professional graduates. Think teachers, university professors, health and social service workers etc.

If you want blue collar leftist British newspapers, think the Mirror, or traditional socialist papers like the Morning Star.

SiV

Stultórum númere infinitum est.

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ShazCas says on Sep 10, 2004, 10:48:

Dissertation Thanks again, guys. Just to let you know, I've been tearing my hair out over the past few days and have finally come up with something to study - Semiotics and Subtitling in La Vendedora de Rosas. I know Colombianox won't be pleased with the choice of film, but these are things that need to be shown and talked about, they can't be ignored, and it's a film that had a big impact on me. So, it's down to work!

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Waterdawg says on Jan 30, 2006, 16:11:

English Language News ? Is there an English Language News Paper in Bogota , or other citys in Colombia ? Thanks !

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jan 30, 2006, 17:52:

No. Not in Bogota. If there's one anywhere else I'd be shocked.

The Providencia news is in English but that comes over the coconut telegraph.

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Gomezman5 says on Jan 30, 2006, 19:50:

I think........ At one time there was a paper called the Bogota Times. If that is not the name, I know there was a newspaper (if you could call it that) that was only a few pages long, and it was entirely in English.

I'm pretty sure that paper is long gone....

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Cerealkiller says on Jan 31, 2006, 19:07:

El Tiempo's political leanings are anything but left oriented. There is no newspaper in Colombia -of national circulation- that could be considered Left-centred.
Good luck with your paper sounds like a bit of a toughie.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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quindioman says on Feb 1, 2006, 10:20:

shaz good luck with the subtitling of La Vendedora....but I just cannot see an English translation to the heavy slice of paisa slang used in the film...even I would give that a miss...good luck nonetheless!

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