Nancy Patricia Guitierrez

Mononoke28 says on Mar 31, 2008, 09:45:

This is so close to blasphemy is not even funny. Piedad Córdoba como Policarpa Salavarrieta????? I don't think so.

Diana

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romy says on Mar 31, 2008, 09:54:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policarpa_Salavarrieta

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 31, 2008, 09:57:

I didn't see the first article on the Liberal Party site. Since it is from their site, I would be inclined to ignore it as with any propaganda on a political party's website.

The second article is pretty old and she has done a lot more to piss off the Colombian public since then. The portion you quoted makes the article almost seem favorable to Cordoba while this is not the case. I find it interesting that after the section you selectively quoted, the author says this.

"Pero es precisamente a ese grupo guerrillero al que más le sirve el show montado alrededor del intercambio humanitario. Porque todo este espectáculo, incluida la reunión de ese rey del cinismo que es ‘Raúl Reyes’ con doña Piedad, es la mejor forma de tratar de lavar la sangre de los ex diputados que asesinaron de la forma más miserable y cobarde de la que es capaz un ser humano. "

This is a good point and one of the reasons many hate Cordoba. She has done a lot to try and legitimize the farc. She seems to ignore that these are criminals who have never negotiated in good faith and have never done anything for altruistic reasons. Anything they do, including releasing hostages, is a calculated and cynical move with ulterior motives.

The author's final statement says it well.

"Moraleja: como dijo un perspicaz analista, de la suma de Piedad Córdoba, Chávez y las Farc nada bueno puede resultar. "

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jack_jason says on Mar 31, 2008, 10:59:

Yes, It is a blasphemy.

This is just spanglish, please do not correct me

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Mr. Hollywood says on Mar 31, 2008, 11:24:

Maybe they're suggesting that Spain should capture and execute her?

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robi666 says on Mar 31, 2008, 12:29:

Frankly, I don't understand how can someone still want to talk about Piedad Cordoba.
After her last intervention at the Venezuelan parliament and the pathetic show at the last American Cumbre, she lost any credibility. If she still had one.
Sin verguenza.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 31, 2008, 13:17:

Well. The El Pais article was from September, so it's not too timely, and the other was from her party's website, so of course they are going to talk about her.

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robi666 says on Mar 31, 2008, 13:29:

I always believed in her.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 31, 2008, 13:36:

Not being a fan of piedad cordoba does not make one a machista nor does it mean that one is against women's rights. You often make the mistake of making incorrect assumptions about people's beliefs based on your preconceived notions. You seem to misguidedly believe that anyone who does not share all of your views is incapable of being a just and reasonable person when it comes to social issues.

I am also glad that Colombia has strong, virtuous and hard-working women. It seems that in many areas, women tend to be more educated and are advancing well in the job market. I know many Colombian women who are successful leaders in business and their communities. Those are the type of women I respect, not manipulative politicians like cordoba.

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webmanco says on Mar 31, 2008, 13:39:

CG

You often make the mistake of making incorrect assumptions about people's beliefs based on your preconceived notions.

You got that right. To err is human.

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

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ColombianoGringo says on Mar 31, 2008, 13:42:

Well. I mean that it is stupid to suggest that someone who disagrees with a particular politician who happens to be female is automatically a machista troglodyte who believes women should be barefoot and pregnant. Being anti-cordoba and pro women's rights are not mutually exclusive sets of beliefs.

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 31, 2008, 13:46:

I don't think Piedad Córdoba would be where she is if she hadn't been smart enough. The thing is she got too greedy and started making the wrong choices just to become a candidate for the presidency (as much as she wants to deny it). And now she's paying for her mistakes. Como dicen por ahí "Le salió el tiro por la culata."

Diana

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webmanco says on Mar 31, 2008, 13:49:

That has been said of Ingrid Betnacourt as well, I guess is not a fair comment, "le salio el tiro por la culata"

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 31, 2008, 15:28:

You can't compare Ingrid Betancourt with Piedad Córdoba. I've never heard of Ingrid trying to legalize and standing up for the FARC as the other one has. Yes, she tried to stand out by making a very bold and very stupid move, but never befriended the enemy.

Diana

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robi666 says on Mar 31, 2008, 15:44:

Or trying to make her President looks like a stupid or her country, Colombia, looks like a fascist narco para country.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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webmanco says on Apr 19, 2008, 04:35:

Abril 18 de 2008

Revuelo político por investigación contra Presidenta del Congreso, Nancy Patricia Gutiérrez

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/2008-04-19/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR...

"¿Se quiere más sevicia con el Congreso? ¡Tampoco!", exclamó el ministro del Interior, Carlos Holguín Sardi, al conocer la noticia de la indagación preliminar contra la congresista.

Por su parte, el ex presidente Ernesto Samper retomó la idea de anticipar las elecciones para abrirle paso a un régimen parlamentario en Colombia.

"Llegó la hora de irnos del Congreso a unas nuevas elecciones", dijo el senador liberal Héctor Helí Rojas, para sumarse a la idea del ex mandatario. Rojas propuso una reunión de todos los partidos con el Presidente para hablar de un nuevo Congreso.

A su turno, el presidente del Partido Conservador, senador Efraín Cepeda, dijo que "no sabemos qué va a pasar si esto continúa sucediendo. Ya hay gente en el partido hablando sobre la necesidad de una asamblea constituyente".

Dos hechos preocupan a los congresistas: que la reforma política, llamada de la 'silla vacía', sea insuficiente en estos momentos, y el impacto internacional que pueda generar el hecho de que la Presidenta del Congreso sea objeto de una investigación.

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