Plastic surgey what's going on?

Simon says on Nov 30, 2007, 16:04:

Who says it's only girls? I'm a guy and I'm gonna have something done soon too....and it aint my boobs!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 30, 2007, 16:04:

uhmmmmmmmm? don't let me guess heheh

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 30, 2007, 16:04:

first you have to tell me your shoe size

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msaucey says on Nov 30, 2007, 16:12:

Kat, I agree... I don't get it... It must be a competition thing, but I would hope that there are guidelines that girls can't have surgery under a certain age, right?.... The female body doesn't stop developing until age 18....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 30, 2007, 16:15:

I have seen more plastic girls in Colombia than here in the UK.

msaucey in England there are guidelines but I don't think in Colombia are.

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msaucey says on Nov 30, 2007, 16:20:

Hmmm... That's just wrong, I know we have guidelines in the states too, don't know what they are since I've never inquired, but they should have them in Colombia as well...

I'm guessing the majority of girls are getting breast implants... It must be really inexpensive if sooo many girls are getting them, do you know?...

I didn't see an abundance when I was in Bogota, and I was mostly in Ciudad Salitre... But, I do know my aunt and cousin had them done... I'll have to ask them... I didn't really see that in Pereira, except for one girl at a club, I thought she was going to tip over any minute just because they were too big....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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panthdave says on Nov 30, 2007, 17:28:

Cheap Cheap Cheap.....Fashion and Competition in Colombia....One does the other has too..

panthdave Miami

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Lisa Zee says on Nov 30, 2007, 17:33:

Yes Kat , it is amazing, esta de moda!. When I left Medellin, people only had P/S, if you were in an accident, and were deformed?!!.

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 30, 2007, 17:36:

One time I was walking through the Unicentro mall in Villavo with Vivi and her cousin. We were stopped, near the entrance that has the sport shop that Kat1 found her BB guns at. They gave a 5 minute pitch to my wife and her cousin on how they could finance their plastic surgery. I would call it almost high pressure sales. And the girls were given literature, finance options, the whole deal. I was not thrilled in the least and Mrs. RJ realized that pretty quick. The plastic surgery business had their own kiosk, 2 or 3 chicks working it, passing out literature, etc. I was totally creeped out. But, I guess my point is that is is big business, even in little ole' Villavicencio.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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eywed says on Nov 30, 2007, 17:37:

I strongly feel that some Photographs would help us to get a better understanding of the sistution.

Ay Hombe!!!!!

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panthdave says on Nov 30, 2007, 17:41:

Good Point RJ they bring up the financing right away..tooo...

panthdave Miami

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miamimike says on Nov 30, 2007, 17:44:

Vanity is a large aspect of the Female Colombian Culture. It is a learned aspect from Society, the Parents and other adult members of the family. No surprise with so much presure on a perfect Physical appearence from Peers and family that this is being written about today. Who is to blame I ask? Where is the Parental emphasis on intellectual development?At 14, these Adolescents haven't even developed physically yet in many cases so PS is impractical medically at this age,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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msaucey says on Nov 30, 2007, 17:46:

Thanks RJ, the financing of these "senos" would make sense... Because, even though it may be cheap in our eyes, I wouldn't think that it would be cheap to most in Colombia, right? Unless, we're talking about rock bottom cheap... The financing I'm sure has a nice reasonable interest rate, probably like 20%

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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romy says on Nov 30, 2007, 19:52:

There's no better gift for a quinceañera from papi. Cali has it more than Medellin from my experience, that's why chipichape is so well known.

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 30, 2007, 20:11:

I think the APR is probably in the 30% range for surgery,same as stereos, computers, TVs, etc. If not 30%, 25 to 27% anyway. It is a racket.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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RUV says on Nov 30, 2007, 20:32:

Is there an age restrictions on some of these surgeries? Do these girls need a parent's consent?

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 1, 2007, 10:25:

I do not know what the age restrictions would be. I didn't investigate that much into it. Good question though. There were plenty of girls being solicited that appeared to be in their teens when I saw the silicone kiosk. ("solicited" meaning approached and given info on plastic surgery)

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Lowell says on Dec 1, 2007, 11:05:

Personally I don't like to touch fake. Hard, firm, small, large, soft = better than fake. I like mediums with good nips.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 1, 2007, 11:13:

As far as I know, I have never had the opportunity to experience the touch of a fake boob. Somehow I guess I have been blessed, as I concur that the real ones surely are much more facinating and sexy. And breasts are way down on my list of my favorite physical attributes of a woman anyway.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 11:27:

Agree Liza, only if it was necessary and apart from being expensive you couldn't afford to do it just for vanity, now it seems so easy, i don't know where they get the money or how much in dent they get, but it's incredible how many plastic fantastics are around I bet it makes so many women that can't afford the PS feel inadequate.

I just imaging the new old generation of Colombian women, very wrinkly but with very perky boobs or their face stretch out to the maximo and their belly button touching their neck heheh

what's wrong with aging gracefully, just with the minimum of nip and tuck.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 11:30:

You know to me they all are starting to look like Jessica Rabbit :))

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Lowell says on Dec 1, 2007, 13:51:

The other day I saw an older woman who had implants. It just didn't look right.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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Buongone says on Dec 1, 2007, 13:51:

Cost. About 4K US. All the added stuff, (Bras, massages,etc) another $650.00. Interest rate 9%. Know someone who just had it done in Cali. Due to an moto accident. Look great. They go in through the nipple. Seen some before where they go in under the tit. Botch job. Scars. Heard they even go in under the arm pit.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 14:03:

Older women should have the surgeries and implants that they feel they can have. Most sensible women over 40 have understood how little surgeries do for them, except when they're performing artists like Amparo Grisales, for example,

It does not matter how much you let them cut you up and stuff your body with fake parts, there's always some other woman who is younger, prettier and more gullible than you. The problem is with the men who think that a woman should look like his trophy and women who play along and acommodate.

Colombia is a nation with a soul of a teenager.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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slguy says on Dec 1, 2007, 14:24:

Now, Desi. Calma. ;)

Know what? Of the several women I know who have had various enhancements done, most of them get angry if you accuse them of trying to please a man via surgery. They ALL swear it's about their own vanity and/or self-image. I'm not sure I buy it- but to blame the plastic surgery on "the men" is a little harsh, dontcha think?

BTW- of the 8-10 women I've talked to about this, only 3 were married or in serious relationships - so how did "the men" cause it? I assume you are implying that these poor women think they need to do this, to catch a man? Or to meet some standard set be "the men"?

The strongest, by far, woman that I know (I hope to marry her, soon) is about to have the surgery because she wants to be able to look good in more feminine clothes. And this is a woman that almost gets an attitude when I pay the dinner tab, she's so independent.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 14:38:

I'm totally calmada.

I believe it's just a bunch of self-denial. It's so much better, it sounds so much better to say, hey, I'm doing this for my self-image. for myself. Where do you get that self-image? When a woman looks in the mirror and likes what she sees, how does she judge her reflection in the mirror? Based on what? On what her mother has told her? On what her daddy has said? On what her friends/peers have said? or on what she is being fed all the time, every waking moment of her life by the media, the TV, the movies, the fashion designers, the retail shops, the internet...this is the way you're supposed to look: these are the people you are supposed to imitate.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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slguy says on Dec 1, 2007, 15:02:

I knew you were calm, Desi- thus the ;) - I was only yankin' your chain a little.

I agree with you- I rarely buy the "self-image" crapola, either.

BUT- I have a hard time with blaming men for women not having stronger personalities - strong enough to ignore "just say no" and be comfortable with themselves.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 15:29:

Well, yes, I tend to be a little harsh and judgemental but I find it just so...lame when people can't stand on their own two feet and make a decision according to what they really feel.

My best friend in Cali is an attractive middle-aged lady, a divorcée and I believe she's just fine the way she is. Her new boyfriend, however, said that he expects she has gotten rid of the extra five pounds by the New Year or he'll start looking for a new GF...that is so totally sick.

Another friend came by (when I was in Cali last time, almost two years ago now) with a pained look in her face. What's happening....well I'm still recovering from my surgery...and why don't you stay at home...I gotta work...no shit...yes , my employer doesn't give sick leave for plastic surgery...I'm having a new one this Friday...he needs to tuck in a bit more under my ribs and I need more silicone on my butt..show me...but m'dear you look fine...nonono, I need to look better...but why....because I want to keep my husband...and if you're going to have this surgery on five different spots in your body on friday when are you supposed to go to work? On Monday.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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deathnova says on Dec 1, 2007, 15:48:

My Colombiana wants breasts for Christmas. Not this year at least..

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:00:

gezz Desi I am glad my husband is happy with me, if he one day suggest i need surgery, then this will be the last time he heard of me or see me, I could care less if he goes for a younger one...good luck to her. mejor sola que mal acompañada

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:02:

The thing is if they think (men) are going to look good forever, i will say to them, ok i will do my breast but if you go bald or your performance start to go down, your out baby... i don't want hair implants (real turn off) or viagra...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:05:

on your bike!

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:17:

EXACTLY!!!! HEHEHE

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:20:

haha kat1 I really loved that one

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:29:

Or Desi we have to start saying SIZE MATTERS!!!!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:31:

Kat1...you might be onto something there....

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Mr. Hollywood says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:36:

If your Colombiana is asking for fake boobs for Christmas, arrange a 3some with an "enhanced" stripper and tell her you got them for her.

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vicshere says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:38:

man i missed this whole post....are you talking about boobs

listo

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deathnova says on Dec 1, 2007, 16:49:

Mr. Hollywood, she was actually more specific stating that she wants the surgery ;)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Dec 1, 2007, 19:10:

Bummer for you, I guess.

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slguy says on Dec 1, 2007, 19:25:

Desi, I just gotta say.....

if you're friends are SO damned insecure that they wouldn't tell an asshole to hit the road who threatened them about losing weight, or put themselves thru rough surgery, afraid their husbands might leave- they have deeper problems than shitty taste in men.

And Madison Avenue is NOT to blame.

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Lisa Zee says on Dec 1, 2007, 19:35:

"Colombia is a nation with a soul of a teenager" LOL, LOL. How true!
I think diet and exercise is the key to true beauty.

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ChristopherZZ says on Dec 1, 2007, 20:04:

This is not just an issue for Colombia, it is a worldwide problem. When I lived in Korea it was normal to see teenage girls get plastic surgery to get slits added to their eyes. Since I left now the women get breast impalnts. heck it is happening in the US as well. I know of young girls getting breast augmentation presents for High School Graduation presents.

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deathnova says on Dec 1, 2007, 20:16:

Damn, where were those girls when I was in high school?

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 1, 2007, 23:25:

Lisa Zee, I am sure you are correct (diet and exercise). I might add good ole' fashioned heredity and the soul ... or whatever you call it: maybe attitude, inner strength, confidence, love for life?

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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goin_south says on Dec 1, 2007, 23:29:

" think diet and exercise is the key to true beauty." (LZ)

I see alot of ugly people at the gym...lol

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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miamimike says on Dec 2, 2007, 01:11:

"he says girls from the age of 14 come to do some surgery on them, breast, bottoms, hips, etc, what's going on? where this come from? since when? In Colombia this is becoming a real burden for young girls in the race "to be perfect"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Again, the OP isn't about women 40 years of age its about girls age 14 wanting Surgery, this is one crazy society when it sends out a signal to girls this age to feel the need for surgery. Emblematic of a Sick Society and what Priorities they consider important,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Bam Bam says on Dec 2, 2007, 01:32:

the way I see it, if you are insecure about something and you have the ability to get it done, just go for it, especially if it will affect the way people see you. Hey, the world is shallow, why not take full advantage of the fact?

I have braces right now, and I see it no different as a woman getting a boob job. The fact of the matter is that both of us didn't like what we saw in the mirror, and realized that we could better our situation by fixing up our appearance a bit. Braces are very popular here, but it does not have the same stigma as a boob job, even though you are essentially doing them for the same purpose...to look better (a lot of people say have braces to improve gum health and jaw health, but they are lying they just want their smile to look better)

Like I said, the world is shallow, which makes it easier for one to take advantage.

Now, I DO disagree with 14 year olds getting boob jobs. At least let yourself mature first.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 2, 2007, 03:10:

Bam Bam wrote "Hey, the world is shallow, why not take full advantage of the fact?"

jajajjajja

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scotty says on Dec 2, 2007, 03:42:

every body is getting it, colombia, usa,europe, japan, auatralia, brazil

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Lowell says on Dec 2, 2007, 05:49:

Size does matter!

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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john_stark says on Dec 2, 2007, 10:14:

Every man would like to be bigger than he is. I wouldn't mind another couple of inches to have a nice 12 inch ruler. Even better would be to double it to 18 inches with the circumference of a beer can. If there were that kind of surgery available every guy on the planet would have a dick that a horse would envy.

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 2, 2007, 11:14:

JS, that surgery is available in Europe. I bet Desi could confirm that. I think a lot of those surgeries take place in Sweden, Finland, and Germany?

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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manINred says on Dec 2, 2007, 11:51:

"the way I see it, if you are insecure about something and you have the ability to get it done, just go for it, especially if it will affect the way people see you. Hey, the world is shallow, why not take full advantage of the fact?"

A very pragmatic viewpoint, and I agree thoroughly. Who cares what someone else does to their body? If they are willing to take the risks, and there are reciprocal parties who appreciate the results, well go for it!

And there are other reasons for cosmetic surgery other than 'shallow' ones explained in this thread.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 2, 2007, 11:57:

RJ, I don't have the faintest idea.
The Vikings are well-known for not having to worry about the size.

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Bam Bam says on Dec 2, 2007, 12:41:

im 12 inches....AROUND

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 2, 2007, 12:50:

Your head measure?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 2, 2007, 13:01:

uhmm now everybody is measuring their floppy disk, SIZE DON'T MATTER, PERFORMANCE DOES ;)))

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Dec 2, 2007, 13:07:

Man in red said "A very pragmatic viewpoint, and I agree thoroughly. Who cares what someone else does to their body? If they are willing to take the risks, and there are reciprocal parties who appreciate the results, well go for it!" I agree to some point, but sometimes you are happy with your body, but when you see that the fashion is big boobs, uplift bums, big lips, for a young person who they still are so conscious about the way they look, they became very unhappy with a perfectly good body and start to transform it, will that make them happy? who knows, but I think the majority of young girls in Colombia are going under the knife just for peer pressure to keep up. look at the news and in the entertainment section usually are two very attractive girls with fake boobs, hair extensions, false nails you name it...

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deathnova says on Dec 2, 2007, 13:14:

Having a large floppy disk isn't necessarily a good thing, who wants to put their partner out of commission and have them at the OB/GYN every other week?

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goin_south says on Dec 2, 2007, 13:32:

"..SIZE DON'T MATTER, PERFORMANCE DOES ;)))..."... kat1
yep; ask Juan Pablo Montoya... he knows...
He didn't.... Perform....well.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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Bam Bam says on Dec 2, 2007, 13:43:

"who wants to put their partner out of commission and have them at the OB/GYN every other week?"

Me.

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slguy says on Dec 2, 2007, 14:00:

The thing that all this strikes me is -

a teenage girl is very susceptible to peer pressure, etc. Understandable some of them would succumb.

my question is- WTF are these parents thinking, giving boob jobs for quinces/graduations ?????????

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Bam Bam says on Dec 2, 2007, 14:20:

I will agree with the unrealistic standards argument.

If you already got a Mercedes, theres no need to upgrade to a Ferrari.

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john_stark says on Dec 2, 2007, 20:41:

"who wants to put their partner out of commission and have them at the OB/GYN every other week?"

Me.

Yo tambien. Imagine pulling out your tool and having women gasp in shock. I bet those guys aren't hearing any fake screams or moans.

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Bam Bam says on Dec 2, 2007, 22:35:

they would definitely be real screams....

screams of pain.

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deathnova says on Dec 5, 2007, 17:02:

Ha, you guys can have that. I actually care about my partner.

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john_stark says on Dec 5, 2007, 21:41:

Come on dude, it would be worth it to see the look on her face. Or don't tell her and let her feel it and feel it and feel it.........

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