Pizza here sucks--Colombia has become too expensive!

morphus says on Mar 24, 2008, 11:29:

HA HA....NMG!

Simon says on Mar 24, 2008, 11:31:

Then go to Karen's Pizza, I love it there.

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vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 11:32:

Karen's is good but double the price of Jenos

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Mr. Hollywood says on Mar 24, 2008, 11:56:

If you came to Colombia for the pizza I think you made a bad decision.

vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:06:

I make my own at home the topping for my homemade pizza total some 27,000.....but it 1" thick.....here's an example
alpina mozzarella cheese 1 lb 7,000
1/2 Spanish (from Spain) pepperoni 4,500
200 grams of lean ham 2,400
2 ripe tomatoes 300
300 grams of mushrooms 3,000
2 green peppers 400
1 jar of green olives 4,000
1 16" pizza base 4,000 (I cant make the base for the life of me...so I buy it pre-made)
1/2 cup of home made tomato sauce 500
2 tablespoons of olive oil on the base
gas for oven 500

lets ay we dont go out for pizza any more

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cali373 says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:13:

Mozarella in Colombia sucks!

Smile if you are a thinker!

vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:14:

Mozarella in Colombia sucks!

get use to it man

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:22:

Pizza in Colombia is not the same quality as the one you see in the US. The only one I liked was Piccolo's but it was expensive and really not all that.

Diana

monkeykilla says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:23:

I go to megapizza!

rhydewithdis says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:27:

Why is it that Pizza is so expensive in Colombia? Out of the main ingredients it takes to make a good pizza pie, I would imagine that the hardest ingredient to get a hold of (quality-wise) would be mozzarella cheese?

If Pizza Hut can do three medium pies for $5 each, I have no idea why a medium pie at Dominos in Colombia would cost 30k COP? Labor is cheaper as would be overhead costs. The only plausible explanation that I can come up with is that there are just a few places that know how to make pizza and so they gauge simply because they can.

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arthur brode says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:32:

have a bowl of Ajiaco

and start making pesitos or else you are going to drown

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rhydewithdis says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:35:

at arthur brode? Huh? What does that have to do with the original post?

You lost me....

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pedro says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:39:

LOL, I saw the title and half expected to read a general parody of PBH comments. There have been so many expressions of lament about the erosion of buying power in Colombia as a foreigner!

Pizza is not universally expensive. If you go to one of those "by the slice" places, you can get a decent wedge for 1200 pesos (or up to 2500 pesos or more, depending on where you are). There are lots of pizza places in Bogota's Candelaria, they make a thick pizza with lots of dough so the students find it better value.

It's the Frisby effect. Why does fried chicken cost double or more at Frisby, as compared to the corner broaster store? Why does a large Q-Bano cost 10k plus for sandwich only, no combo?

I honestly don't know. I just observe that "brand name" fast food sells high in Colombia, and "no name" fast food sells more cheaply.

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Catfish35 says on Mar 24, 2008, 12:44:

The best Pizza Mozzarella made is Grande. It is expensive. Its what I use in my stores here in the U.S. I have been interested in putting something there in Medellin simply because the pizza sucks.
The problem I am running into is not getting the product there because I can. Its the friggin tarif/tax thats
imposed by the gummit there in Colombia. And dont forget to add your 16% sales tax.
We make our pizza from scratch. We do not buy dough balls. We also make our own sauce which is sorta sweet and spicy and very non acidic. I believe it would go well there, just the blocks set up to make it so damn expensive.
I have sampled all the pizza in Medellin becuz its my biz, and you are right! They all suck!

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Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 13:13:

Rent in Bogota 500k pesos, rent in NYC 1800 USD

Weekly food shop in Bogota 50k pesos (for 3 people) , weekly food shop in NYC 100 USD (just for me)

Taxi across town in Bogota, 20k pesos, taxi across town in NYC $75

Transmilenio across town in Bogota, 1200 pesos (quick), subway across town in NYC $2 (slow)

Tailor made suit in Bogota 160-180k pesos, tailor made suit in NYC anywhere from $600 up to $2k plus?? (To be fair you can get it for $300 or so here but you have to wait two months as they send the fabric out to Hong Kong and then have the suit shipped back.

Night out for two people in Bogota 50-60k... night out for two people in NYC, at least $100 EACH no matter how you slice it.

Medical insurance in Bogota 46k per month. Medical insurance in NYC, $500-600 per month. This is apples and apples, the most basic coverage with copays in both cases. Bogota copays are from 1500-7500 pesos, NYC copays are from $2-50 or so.

Well, still looks like quite the bargain to me!!!

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manINred says on Mar 24, 2008, 13:16:

"Tailor made suit in Bogota 160-180k pesos"

Are you shitting me Rubito? Wow, are they good quality? I'll have to pick one up next time I'm down there if that's for real!!!

And yes, Pizza in Colombia does suck. But who cares? It has the best fruit in the world!

Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 13:22:

I'm not shitting you, I've hooked 3 other people up from this board and CBlog already. And that's including fabric! I think it's actually gone up now to 140k plus fabric, used to be 120k. But the fabric can be had for 40k in the right place. Maybe if you want to splurge on something really fine, double that.

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buggy says on Mar 24, 2008, 13:30:

Is it the suit you are wearing on the photo ?

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robi666 says on Mar 24, 2008, 13:52:

Cat, did you try Archie's Pizza? How would you rate it?

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jorgegdiaz says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:08:

Vic that 1" thick crust seems like some Canadian winter clothes I´ve seen ... lol

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miamimike says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:18:

Medical insurance in Bogota 46k per month. Medical insurance in NYC, $500-600 per month. This is apples and apples, the most basic coverage with copays in both cases. Bogota copays are from 1500-7500 pesos, NYC copays are from $2-50 or so.
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Cerealkiller says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:20:

I like pizzas in Archies and El Patio, theyre pretty decent from what I recall... Jenos' pizzas have never been very good actually...theyre pretty much on the suck ass side of the pizza spectrum. Karen's is bah...

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romy says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:21:

Karen's pizza is the best I've had anywhere in the world

Chriscan says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:28:

Sometimes the wife and I go to Taganga just to get the street pizza. We usually get a couple of pies for about 10000 4000 for the busses.

My biggest complaint in america latina is not enough sauce.

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durito says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:29:

Not enough or no sauce at all.

robi666 says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:33:

Well, if you like the street pizza in Santa Marta or Taganga, you can easily live putting ketchup sauce on there.

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vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:33:

Archie's Pizza here in B/manga is very good but dam expensive....the large ended up costing 56,000 and the crust was thin like paper

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DodgerDogs says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:37:

In Santa Marta go to Mama Mias Pizza , as they use real Mozzarella di Bufala cheese and slow cook their sauce.

The owner is Italian and his wife works for Avianca and gets the Mozzarella di Bufala flown in fresh. They make a decent pizza with good slow cooked sauce. 35,000 pesos and woth it for the taste of real pizza.

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robi666 says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:37:

Yes, Vic, it is expensive, but it is the only pizzeria I tried that would survive back home in Rome.

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Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:37:

buggy, I'm not WEARING a suit in that pic! That's just a shirt! And that's an OLD-ass pic, from like 1999.

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Cerealkiller says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:37:

Well I suppose its all in how people like pizza...I probably couldn't eat a thick crust because IMO thats not what a pizza should be like, but apparently people in the US are used to a different kind of pizza...*confused*

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vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:39:

agree rob other than my home made it Archie's Pizza in B/manga the rest are total crap...this is coming from a guy who has eaten plenty of the world best Italian Pizza in Toronto

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Frank Rizzo says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:40:

I hear ya CK....the whole Adkins diet got people wanting thin crust i think........ it prevents "whale sign"...

Cerealkiller says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:43:

haha Frank, thats possible but i think i just enjoy mozzarella (di bufala of course) and tomato more than I enjoy dough, it doesn't taste like anything!!! But if you say "cookie dough" then we are talking "atkins, atkins who?"

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romy says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:51:

vic, what pizzeria would you recommend in TO?

vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 14:59:

holy crap its been like six years.....there was a nice place near queen and john...forget the name (gourmet something or other)...but you could get any kind of pizza ...and you could buy by the slice for lunch...when I worked downtown that was my favorite walk....up on St Clair there is many places ...too many to comment on...each one a bit different.....even poor 2 for 1 pizza in Toronto beats any street pizza in Colombia hands down

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Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:01:

never mind all that shit, Cora Pizza on Spadina had them all beat! And CHEAP too. Dunno if it's still any good or cheap, this is from 10 years ago now :P There were 3 pizza joints all in a row on the same block of Spadina, but I always preferred Cora.

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vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:07:

come on rubito ...on Spadina......I would stay away form that area.....a bunch of years back we did a reno to an existing restaurant around there...when we were tearing down the walls...the hollows of the wall was filled tocapacity with giant cockroaches....I never had seen grown construction guy wine like suck asses.....I think the whole area is infested due to the Chinese restaurant

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adrienne79 says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:07:

The first time I went to Archie's, it was wonderful....just expensive. But a couple of weeks ago my husband and I went again and this time teh pizza was very dry and not so good. I think they have started holding back on the tomato sauce like all the other pizza places in town or else we just got a bad one that day. I'm not sure if we will ever go back now. I think I will start making mine from scractch too.

vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:08:

you can get the pizza base at the exito 3,900

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Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:08:

cockroaches = protein :)

I don't think Queen W or St Clair are exactly roach-free either. If you're really worried about that sort of thing, NEVER eat in restaurants!

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vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:09:

i guess...but only when they are raw....cooked or fryed they lose their protien

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donmia says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:32:

There's an Archie's pizza in Coral Gables. Everyone thinks it's a specialty pizza place that isn't a chain - high end super-good pizza is what my friend the foodie calls it. I had it once, not bad at all.

I laughed when I saw one on every block in Bogota.

But I'm with a lot of the other posters here - Colombian food is fantastic, just enjoy what you have rather than lament what is missing. If I had a nickel for every New Yorker in Miami that said "wow, you just can't get good (pizza, bagels, corned beef sandwich, chinese, whatever) like you could in New York" then I could probably afford an apartment in Manhattan.

Cerealkiller says on Mar 24, 2008, 15:41:

Donmia who woulda thunk it? Archies in the US, how odd! I just googled it and found there are 5 in Mia: Aventura, Doral, Brickell, Key Biscayne and Coral Gables...

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mranderson says on Mar 24, 2008, 16:04:

Colombia is a bargian if you're living here with a u.s. salary. On a colombian salary everything is expensive.

Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 19:52:

Not rent food transportation or medical insurance.

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MaFe says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:01:

I also hate pizza in Colombia...but since I live in NY which I feel has the BEST pizza, I never crave pizza while in Colombia. There is just too much good Colombian food, pastries, fruit to eat in Colombia!

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vicshere says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:05:

after 5-6 years you start missing stuff

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Ryan619 says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:16:

Hum, I plan to live in Colombia soon. I eat pizza all the time in San Diego. Chicago has the best pizza in my opinion. Also NY pizza is good. As long as there are cool people, I could care less what I eat. Gimme a beer! Oh, thats my problem i will miss all the different types of beers we have here. Oh no! Beer... : (

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Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:32:

I never liked the NY pizza. I agree with vics et al, I think Toronto has way better pizza.

I'm hoping to try out Sao Paulo pizza later on this year, that's supposed to be the world's best, at least, if you ask a Paulista :P

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Simon says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:33:

I LOVE COLOMBIAN PIZZA!!

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DodgerDogs says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:39:

In Italy or Tornto could you find good Arepas or Sancocho or Platano dishes ?
Colombia's native dishes are not Pizza and Hamburgers and Hotdogs, but they make the effort and do the best with what the have.

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Rubito says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:41:

The burgers and hotdogs in Colombia are GREAT, what are you talking about?

What's cooler than a burger with a friggin QUAIL EGG on it? :)

I do however also find Colombian pizza disgusting.

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BillBigD says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:45:

Sao Paulo pizza-Always heard it was something special
Hot Dogs- They are very proud of the ones in Chile

Monpirri says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:46:

Pizza in NYC is the best! I love it when they make it with thin crust and extra cheese.
Pizza in Colombia or in Barranquilla I do not recomend it, too much junk on the top.

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Monpirri says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:47:

DD, right on!

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DodgerDogs says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:51:

In Colombia this is better for you, and cost less than a Big Mac combo.


6,500 pesos (smaller pic )

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DodgerDogs says on Mar 24, 2008, 20:54:

Sorry about the big foto, sin culpa :)

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Man Tequila says on Mar 24, 2008, 21:37:

Colombian pizza is just okay; I trust you went there for other reasons.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

island girl says on Mar 24, 2008, 22:27:

Oh this is a late and now useless comment but what the heck!
Big up Cora pizza, fave of Toronto students and still goin strong ... in the annex and far way from the rats of Spadina south of College ... and Im not being rude a few joints got shut down in china town a couple weeks ago for rat infestations.
And in Toronto we have a sizeable Colombian population and everyone is always telling me to go to Mi Tierra restaurant on St Clair but I say I comin to Colombia to try the real deal!

goin_south says on Mar 24, 2008, 22:42:

mozarella in Colombia sucks;
bring your own, next time.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Man Tequila says on Mar 24, 2008, 22:52:

Cora Pizza is still good, I haven't made it to Mi Tierra yet but hear it is mediocre.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

morphus says on Mar 25, 2008, 04:18:

Not all New York pizza is the same. Theres good and bad pizza here. Actually, the best pizza i had comes frozen in a box from Italy. They sell it at Trader Joe's.

Catfish35 says on Mar 25, 2008, 06:04:

What is the name of the Finnish guys place in Sabeneta..I must have missed that one?? Apparently he cooks in a cow shit oven in someones garage and is very popular right now??
Hmmm open minded for anything!
even went to cuchicheros

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El Polo says on Mar 25, 2008, 06:11:

The hot dogs in Colombia have about 5 different toppings, I love them, everything from pineapples to cheese (I know, weird), the hamburgers I ate had a nice size beef pattie they were ok, the pizzas are passable but nothing compared to brooklyn style brick oven pizza. Last time in my pueblo the chuzos (shiskabobs) were 1.000 pesos, very cheap compared to $3.00. Needless to say all of the above is not very good health wise, but its ok every now and then

Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 06:57:

El Polo that's exactly why I did not like the pizza over there. I wanted a plain old pizza, just cheese and love, but they purchased one pizza with 10001 stuff on it! I did not know if I was eating a fruit cocktail mix with one kilo of cut meats on it.
There is nothing like a good old Coney Island hot dog - just mustard, ketchup and a little bit of onions and that's it!

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Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 07:12:

NY Famous Pizza TV Add

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Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 07:31:

New York: The Best Pizza on Earth

Now we are talking pizza.

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MaFe says on Mar 25, 2008, 07:42:

Sorry but NY has the best pizza...mmmmmmm
AND I have eaten pizza in Italy!!

DodgerDogs says on Monday March 24th, 2008 20:39:

In Italy or Tornto could you find good Arepas or Sancocho or Platano dishes ?
Colombia's native dishes are not Pizza and Hamburgers and Hotdogs, but they make the effort and do the best with what the have.

DD, Colombia makes such yummy hot dogs!! I have to admitt Colombian hot dogs are my favorite in the world!! Mmmmmmmmm Que rico...and here I am....craving one! =(

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vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 07:45:

Colombian hot dogs are my favorite in the world!!

that's cause they use rotten animal parts....yummy as good as cockroaches....then you wonder why some gringos go back home with stomach problems

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vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 07:47:

Although Zenu makes a pretty dam good American hotdog...but don't ask me what's inside....I have tasted other brands....I did all this research when I had may restaurant.....I can tell you for a fact that some of the cheaper hotdogs smelled like rotten meat

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Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:03:

"that's cause they use rotten animal parts....yummy as good as cockroaches....then you wonder why some gringos go back home with stomach problems"
That's a lot of bologna!!!

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gato-bandido says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:10:

The best pizza I had was from those street stands selling by the slice in Suba. No comparison to the New York style trash made of tire rubber they have in the US. Amazing what TV can do to people.

DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:13:

Zenu makes great Ranchera sausages .

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msaucey says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:16:

I didn't realize that Colombian Pizza could be this popular....

The only time I had pizza was in Valledupar, from some little place that made it Hawaiian style on a thin crust.... It's was actually pretty good, other then that, I've never had pizza in Colombia....

And MaFe, the colombian hot dog was pretty good, just had my first one on the last visit...

Normally, I'm not a big fan of either pizza or hot dogs, but both that I've had were good.... Probably wont have them again after the horror stories on this thread... =p

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Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:17:

"No comparison to the New York style trash made of tire rubber they have in the US. Amazing what TV can do to people." Well that's a lot of bologna!!!
Are you from Canada also?

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Colombiche says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:38:

CORRECTION FOLKS! In Colombia people don't eat "PIZZA"... they eat "PIXA".

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

Mononoke28 says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:44:

My family eats peesah with pexi. What can I do? =\

Diana

Colombiche says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:47:

Una pixa con una petsi .... y despues cogemos un tatsi y nos vamos a comer un kentoooky.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

msaucey says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:49:

Hey that's the way I say it!

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 25, 2008, 08:52:

Mejor cojamos un tassi y nos vamos al essito a comer helado, o mejor a comer suchi?

Diana

Colombiche says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:00:

Vamos a Mimos, yo me como un banana espli o un soon day.

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vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:02:

what about the little fried chips they put on the hotdogs as a topping....uggggg dam greasy little things....a heart attack in a bag

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Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:14:

Now if you do not like conventional hot dogs (mustard/ketchup and onions), go to Fall View Grill in New Jersey and try a Texas weiner. They have the best hot dog sauce! Try it and order a dog all the way! The delicious sauce is the secret recipe created by the founder and a native of Greece. I remember I used to go to one restaurant in Paterson now they have over six locations in NJ.

http://www.fallsviewgrill.com/aboutus.htm

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Strobers says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:32:

Costco should open a place up in Colombia. They have some of the best pizza I've ever had.

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Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:36:

Nah I say bring some Italian girls to Colombia to show them how to make a good pizza.:>)

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msaucey says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:43:

Monpirri you mean Italian Boys to show them how to make pizza.... Men make better pizza.... I say teach the men!

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morphus says on Mar 25, 2008, 09:48:

Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:08:

Hot Italian Pizza Chef

Msaucey, I guess you're right because I only found one video with an Italian girl making pizza.

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vicshere says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:12:

man that's hot where is the rest of the video I want to see the pepperoni come out

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:50:

What are you talking about? Hot dogs in Colombia are the best with all that crap they put on top. Here it's just onions, relish, mustard and ketchup. So generic... blah.

Diana

dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:51:

I have to give the award to Vicshere. He came up with a recipe at least! I will give it a try. The photos of the Colombian food by Arthur and Dodger were pretty good too. Shame on me for resorting back to my youthful eating habits. 20 years in country and I still have the urge for this junk. Sorry Rubito but Manhattan just isnt the standard for living expenses by comparison. I'm talking food, school, cars, gas, insurance, clothes, maid, taxes, wife's bags, ect.. My US income doesnt allow me to live like a king anymore. More like the favorite prince! hehe This year is the first time I've had to really budget since living here. I do think Colombian Hot Dogs with the ground up pototo chips and pineapple are pretty good.

Mononoke28 says on Mar 25, 2008, 10:56:

Don't forget the cornish hen eggs... deeelish!

Diana

dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 11:02:

The cornish hen eggs are key! Have to smell them first! hehe

El Polo says on Mar 25, 2008, 11:04:

Lucalis Brooklyn NY, great pizza & good to bring some company ;)



The best pizza in Brooklyn is Di Fara Pizza IMO. The owner is Dom DeMarco, everything is fresh in his shop. be prepared to pay $4.00 a slice. if not just tell em El Polo Sent Cha..

dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 11:21:

Just ate the leftover pizza for lunch. Not so bad second time around!

Cerealkiller says on Mar 25, 2008, 12:22:

Haha Colombiche, you're right. However, Ive heard slightly different variations...pisa, pipsa, pixa always with a pesi or a "naranjada" postobon. In regards to the essito...well It could be worse, my boyfriend used to say "excito" as in the first person of the verb "excitar"...

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 25, 2008, 12:23:

I remember when I was in high school in Ellenville, NY there was a small pizza place called La Bella Pizza and man, they made the best pizza I ever had. They were all Italians of course.

Diana

tomtom33 says on Mar 25, 2008, 12:34:

I just had Pizza Pizza in Medellín delivered for lunch. It has been good in the past. I don't know what they changed, but this one was great!

Of course my Midwestern palate is not very sophisticated.

Colombiche says on Mar 25, 2008, 12:39:

Pipsa is good after a breakfast of confleis.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

Cerealkiller says on Mar 25, 2008, 12:40:

confelis= kelos?

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Colombiche says on Mar 25, 2008, 12:56:

confleis, cor pops, kelos, rai cripsi.... Hello! This should be your specialty.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

Cerealkiller says on Mar 25, 2008, 13:08:

Really? Maybe my SN is not hat it seems and I'm just an evil mastermind *evil squint*. When was a kid we didnt have all those cereals!!! I was raised with Zucaritas, frooloos, chococrispis y avena cuaquer!!!

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

jack_jason says on Mar 25, 2008, 13:10:

but, I thought gringos were rich!

This is just spanglish, please do not correct me

Man Tequila says on Mar 25, 2008, 13:12:

You never outgrow the rai cripsi.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

buggy says on Mar 25, 2008, 13:50:

DodgerDogs wrote :"In Colombia this is better for you, and cost less than a Big Mac combo."

This time I agree with you DD. When I am in colombia I prefer eat colombian.

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Mononoke28 says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:19:

¿Por qué no le echan un par de masmelos a los cor fleis? Así quedan más güenos.

Diana

robi666 says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:19:

I'd have a fois gras, buggy...and a Saint Emilion Grand Cru.

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dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:27:

You know, I love Colombia, but I think comparitively, the food here is rather bland compared to other countries. Sure the bandeja paisa and the suculent ajiaco are winners here but in Bogota they are not the daily intake. Frijoles are a couple times a month at best and Ajiaco is really more a special occasion dish. Like any gringo that has "blended" into the society, I eat what those around me are eating. This mean at home the breakfast is "get it yourself" which means coffee and bread. Lunch is soup, rice, meat, veggy and pototoes. Dinner can be a repeat or one of my favorite "onces" with chocolate, queso, toast, tamales, ect.. But all in all, very bland. I

On the other hand, go to the Peruvian coast and the food just blows you away. Same with Chile, Mexico. No one can say the U.S. doesnt have amazing food. I would bet a fortune that those PBH Colombians living in the U.S. only need to look down at the tender belly developed on three squares a day in your adoptive country. Am I right? I have Colombian friends who move to the US and gained 50 pounds in a matter of years.

Anyway, pros outweight the cons and Im fortunate to have food so whatever.

Cerealkiller says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:41:

DWR I agree with your comment on peruvian and mexican food. But then again its only natural, the viceroyalty of Peru and that of New Spain in Mexico always got the most exquisite ingredients and that is why their food is so wonderful. That said, I have never found American food that tasty...its not awful, like say Czech food...but I don't think I have ever thought: Hmm yeah, clam chowder and meatloaf sound awesome...

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

mranderson says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:45:

I can't remember why everyone loves colombian food so much. I guess I should ask that Bourdain character. Everywhere I go it seems to be the same....beans meat rice salad. I guess I don't go to the good restuarants here.

Oh well...I am a NMG afterall.

Simon says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:52:

"You know, I love Colombia, but I think comparitively, the food here is rather bland compared to other countries."

Now I see this thread is devolving from 'Colombian pizza sucks' to 'Colombian food in general sucks'. Just wonderful!

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LDW says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:54:

Travelling through Valle del Cauca, I ran into a little pizza joint in Bolivar. The owners spent several years in Europe, including Italy.

What can I say?...well...........it was edible. The fresh pineapple on that thing made it edible.

Nothing to wax lyrical about mind you, but.....ok.

Lauthra says on Mar 25, 2008, 14:56:

I realised that pizza from known places was too expensive a while ago, when we fancy as slice we just go to the pizza place in the corner, 1,200 pesos a slice, much better value for money.

Nato (='.'=)

Rubito says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:24:

Colombian food can be delicious or horrible depending on who cooks it. You have to be a real moron to mess up with the great starting point all the fresh delicious meats and produce gives you but some people and even some restaurants still manage it.

I will say this though: Colombia is a great place to BUY and COOK your own food, if you really want the job done right, do it yourself.

NYC restaurants are truly full of absolute culinary geniuses who have figured out how to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, because the ingredients here are CRAP!

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buggy says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:42:

"I'd have a fois gras, buggy...and a Saint Emilion Grand Cru."

Yes from time to time ...

"Artículo 20 de la Constitución Política. Se garantiza a toda persona la libertad de expresar y difundir su pensamiento y opiniones,...No habrá censura."

dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:46:

Your right Rubito. I should send the missus to culinary school. hehe

Rubito says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:47:

That's an excellent investment IMO!

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dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:49:

oooooh I'd kill for a good clam chowder CerealKiller!

buggy says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:50:

http://pwp.supercabletv.net.co/garcru/colombia/Colombia/comidas.html

"Artículo 20 de la Constitución Política. Se garantiza a toda persona la libertad de expresar y difundir su pensamiento y opiniones,...No habrá censura."

dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 15:56:

Your right buggy. I generalized. I should be complaining today about Cundinamarca cuisine today. Colombia does have some amazing spreads. i really need to get some of those plates laid in front of me more frequently.

Monpirri says on Mar 25, 2008, 16:19:

Buggy, that's a good link!
Dwr, about your bland comment, it's obvious you do not know anything about Colombian cuisine. I recommend you travel throughout Colombia for one year and without stopping and also visit the homes of Colombian families who enjoy cooking, you’ll be surprised!
I also recommend you buy yourself at least three books about Colombian cooking so you can get your feet wet and begin to cook because it will help you in your culinary education.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

dwr says on Mar 25, 2008, 16:26:

I've traveled Colombia and the rest of South America in it's entirety Monpirri. I have lived in Colombia for 20 years and do know Colombian cuisine. My negativity is fleeting and focused on my day to day Colombian diet on the Bogota savannah. I would love to drop responsibility and travel Colombia for a year. Believe me I would. And this thread spurred something in me that I didn't expect. The desire to get new and refreshing Colombian dishes cooked in my home. Thanks for the tip. I will buy the books.

MaFe says on Mar 25, 2008, 16:36:

gato-bandido says on Tuesday March 25th, 2008 8:10:

"The best pizza I had was from those street stands selling by the slice in Suba. No comparison to the New York style trash made of tire rubber they have in the US. Amazing what TV can do to people."

Ja!!! JAJAJAJAJAJAJA!! This is too funny...I repsect your opinion...funny thing is that in almost EVERY state I traveled to, the majority of the people go to the pizza owned by the guy from Brooklyn, or the guy from anywhere in NY!!

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poco says on Mar 25, 2008, 16:42:

Quote: No comparison to the New York style trash made of tire rubber they have in the US

This is SO untrue on SO many levels that it made my CLUELESS statements short list for 2008.

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Rubito says on Mar 25, 2008, 16:44:

Where I live in NY (Bronx) it really is mediocre in most places. I don't like Brooklyn but I have to admit they got almost ALL the good pizzerias there.

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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:03:

robi666 says, "I'd have a fois gras, buggy...and a Saint Emilion Grand Cru."

Lucky you... fois gras is banned in Chicago... but damn if we don't have the BEST PIZZA in the whole U.S. of A.

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jorgegdiaz says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:59:

Pizza is like sex, better when is free...

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Rubito says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:16:

Thought that was supposed to be "even when it's bad it's still pretty good" :P

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SiV says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:32:

I can't believe there's 130 posts about pizza in Colombia! Start a new thread. What about the lasagne?

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feldz0084 says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:32:

haha thats some funny shiot rubito that comparison of NYC.. love it man. dangg u can find wayy cheaper pizza just go to street corner on Septima and get that hawaiana slice for 2k haha. man even pizza 1969 will hook up a solid sized personal with bunch of ingredients for 12k under. the only thing worth the cost at Jeno's if yer hungry and want that garbage is the Spaghetti combo with soup, garlic bread, and brownie/ice cream for like 10.5...up in the Exito in Chapinero

Robert Jorge says on Mar 25, 2008, 23:47:

I can't believe nobody has brought up Chicago pizza. That's the stuff I like.

Man Tequila says on Mar 26, 2008, 10:12:

The lasagna in Colombia is also just okay. ;)

Such a melodramatic post! Boo hoo, Italian food in Colombia is less tasty than in countries with a large Italian population. I "pulled the trigger"... and ordered a pizza.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

minina says on Mar 26, 2008, 13:45:

"No one can say the U.S. doesnt have amazing food. I would bet a fortune that those PBH Colombians living in the U.S. only need to look down at the tender belly developed on three squares a day in your adoptive country. Am I right? I have Colombian friends who move to the US and gained 50 pounds in a matter of years." ---->dwr.

Well I DO SAY THAT THE US DOESN'T HAVE AMAZING FOOD!. Apart from say things like subs and hoagies, some sandwiches, ice creams, and a couple of other items. US food is not good.
Pies and cakes generally suck. (very few exemptions)
Things like lasagna, mashed potatoes, and chicken are too greasy and don't taste good.
Yes and people do gain weight in the US , but is not because the food is so good, but rather because it has way more calories and additives than many other countries.

rhydewithdis says on Mar 26, 2008, 13:48:

For those of you living in NYC and want to experience a great Brooklyn pizza event, I recommend this:
http://gothamist.com/2008/03/24/the_gothamistsl.php

Most likely I will be there.

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goin_south says on Mar 26, 2008, 16:52:

minina, come on down here to So Lousiana,
where you can get yer ham-bone boiled.. tabasco.. jaja
and find some damn good food.

soon, Los Colombianos will be fattening up too, with the the likes of McD's, Popeye's, Dairy Queen... (where's Tg???... she's chasing the Freez) poppin up everywhere.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Rubito says on Mar 26, 2008, 22:15:

I've actually had great Italian food in Bogota, and at pretty rock bottom prices too. And I'm Italian and PICKY when it comes to my pasta sauces!

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goin_south says on Mar 26, 2008, 23:03:

si, Rubito.... I mean, if dwr is bitchin about the prices and quality, then all I got to say is it must be time for him/her to open up a damn good pizza place and charge out the ass for it.
Take advantage of that about which you are complaining.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

dwr says on Mar 27, 2008, 05:58:

Not a bad idea? Pizza shop. Want to partner up?

gringoloid says on Mar 27, 2008, 06:33:

hmmm..........139 comments..............'pizza here sucks......'

haven't you guys gotten this worked out yet?

jorgegdiaz says on Mar 27, 2008, 11:05:

Minina,
Go to San Francisco to try real and excellent chinesse food or sushi. Go to Lousiana and try a gumbo or Etoufee. Go to Texas and try dam good Tex-Mex food. Go to NYC or chicago and try pizza, pastries or pasta.

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

jonas says on Mar 27, 2008, 11:11:

jorgegdiaz, so you are saying that Louisiana is the only state with proper dishes? You might be right on that one.

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jorgegdiaz says on Mar 27, 2008, 11:27:

Authentic dishes?... may be so. At least to my knowledge.
I don`t know much about it from northen or midwest states.

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.