Piedad Cordova was on the verge of being attacked on flight to Caracas

billyb says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:11:

For non spanish readers, it basically says that on a flight to Caracas, Piedad was being insulted jsut before takeoff nad excalated from there, until the fcaptain threatened to return to Bogota. When they landed, as security team was waiting to protect her.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:15:

Ja Ja. Que bueno. Mejor seria que se quede en Caracas con su amante troglodita.

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slguy says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:16:

if she was still wearing those hideous red clothes, I can fully understand the animosity of her fellow passengers. Who'd want to look at that for an hour and a half? Plus, they prolly were worried about the aircraft being overloaded....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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billyb says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:18:

They just have to make sure it was counterweighed on the other side of the aisle. Yup, good thing for her that they didn't have a dresscode on that flight.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:18:

Forget her taste in clothes. Many Colombians hate her for having her head so far up chavez' ass . I am not sure what the definition of treason is in Colombia, but she certainly has provided aid and comfort to Colombia's enemies.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:23:

Cómase un cerro Cassini. Su propio gobierno tuvo la sensatez de acordar que las farc son nada mas que unos terroristas criminales. Me agrada saber que sus compatriotas no tienen las mismas opiniones tan pendejas que usted. Esto sera la ultima vez que me dirijo hacia usted. Ya me aburrí de usted y el excremento que fluye de su mente.

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slguy says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:23:

I simply didn't have the energy to comment on her, politically, and her fan club on the plane.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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jorgegdiaz says on Jan 23, 2008, 13:49:

they were mad b/c she was going to swear alligeance to Chavez....

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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catherine b says on Jan 23, 2008, 15:23:

As much as I despise Cordoba I don't condone violence. It's dangerous to not guard against justifiable indignation turning into hatred because then you become like the people you're against: violent and hateful.

I repudiate farc and their allies with all my heart, but I will not hate them because I don't ever wish to be like them.

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MitchAlvarez says on Jan 23, 2008, 15:43:

esa traidora es una falsa. si la veo en un avion yo tambien la mando a la puta m.

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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Sr Tertius says on Jan 23, 2008, 16:20:

I second your words, catherine. I'm going to skip over the usual bashing, just to comment that this is the kind of stupid behavior that has got us in our situation. Don't agree with someone? Threaten her, punch her, or better yet, kill her. I guess rationality is out of fashion... but when was it fashionable in the first place? Nevermind.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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podborski says on Jan 23, 2008, 17:05:

I don't condone violence, but sounds like people just spoke their mind?

I'd be tempted to do the same.

Threats are not included in that, just telling people what you think of them. Anything beyond that turns into the mob mentality which can get ugly.

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juancegomez says on Jan 23, 2008, 18:55:

Stupid and dangerous behavior indeed, whether the target is Piedad Córdoba or, who knows, even someone who is pro-Uribe (or the man himself).

There are reasons to complain against and reasons to criticize all those people, in the proper environment, but they should also be at least minimally respected the rest of the time.

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MitchAlvarez says on Jan 23, 2008, 19:15:

i didnt say i would attack her or curse her out. My comment was simply a reflection of my discontent with this individual who does not believe in the concept of patriotism. Im not sure if she really is Colombian. If she is, then she isnt very different from las FARC.

Cassini Im glad I entertain you. Ive actually read more of your posts trying to figure out why would you support terrorism in Colombia but I still cant figure it out. Your profile says your French, are all french people supporters of kidnapping and deaths in Colombia?

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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podborski says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:17:

he's a communist mitch, they believe the ends justify the means.

So killing a few thousand innocents is a small price to pay to achieve their little 'paradise', where I am sure people like cassini see themselves at the top of the heap telling the poor, helpless peons how to live their lives.

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kalder says on Jan 24, 2008, 04:29:

Would you call yourself a communist cassini?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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podborski says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:35:

if I had to take the time to write interesting things cassini, I'd spend even more time here than I already do.

It'd take me about an hour to come up with half a sentence.

So you'll have to wait 'til next year for the nonsense to stop : )

Anyway, it was just my opinion, but I bet I am right.

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robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 05:57:

From El Tiempo
""Me acosaron desde inmigración hasta el avión. Eso fue muy horrible", dijo Córdoba luego del incidente."

What is she mourning for?
She should be more than glad that AUC did not target her yet.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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tasco66 says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:30:

Hey cassini remind us what you froggies did to women who had German boyfriends during WWII, and to your countrymen who collaborated with the Nazis?

Maybe you will now understand how Colombians feel towards Piedad…

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:36:

Tasco, he, being french, won't understand why people don't like traitors and collaborators.

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kalder says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:42:

Gentlemen, please..

I don't think any nation would have acted differently under the circumstances and style of the Nazi occupation of France.

My argument is with Cassini's politics, not his nationality.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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jorgegdiaz says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:45:

Look for comments # 81 ¬ # 82, They say they were on the same flight and nothing happeded, and she`s orquestating all that rucus...

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/2008-01-24/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR...

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:46:

I think England would have acted dfferently, in fact it fought on against long odds, even when Germany was offering very favorable terms to cease hostilities between them. France chose the path of least resistance.

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Robert Jorge says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:47:

Tasco66 - Cass probably doesn't know. The lucky ones got their heads shaved publicly on Main Street.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:51:

And she is trying to suggest that it's orchestrated by the Colombian governament. Probably to get some sympathy like her master, Chavez, does every couple of months with his imaginary assasination plots. God, I wish, just once, that they were true.

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robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 06:52:

jorge, you cannot trust to people posting on a forum, true?

Anyway, whatever she does or says, she's fucked. Better resign.
She should have known it, acted stupidly and had an unruly behaviour for a colombian parliamentarian, and she deserves it.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 07:00:

As a governament official, she could debate and rail against Uribe's gov in the senate and around the country to her heart's content and I'm all for it. Once she goes to a foreign country that is hostile to Colombia and applauds when that country's mangy dog of a president and Chavez attack Colombia and she stands next to them applauding and smiling, then she has crossed the line into treason.

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tasco66 says on Jan 24, 2008, 08:36:

Cassini for your info there is a war with the Farcs in Colombia and Chavez is supporting the Farc…

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:26:

cassini, don't you ever get the feeling that the mirror is the only one who agrees with you?

but I admire hell out of your tenacity.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Mr. Hollywood says on Jan 24, 2008, 11:37:

"On the verge" of being attacked is like being on the verge of being pregnant.

I think Senator Cordova got some strongly worded feedback by constituents unhappy with her service.

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tasco66 says on Jan 24, 2008, 12:32:

Cassini, you are very funny today... have you heard of the war on terror? The war against terrorism?

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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tasco66 says on Jan 24, 2008, 14:59:

Si Piedad Córdoba está en riesgo es por ella misma, afirmó ministro del Interior, Carlos Holguín

"Es evidente que cuando una persona se expresa contra el país, como lo hizo la senadora Piedad Córdoba, pues naturalmente alguien reacciona", manifestó.

http://www.eltiempo.com/politica/2008-01-24/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR...

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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slguy says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:01:

I guess that pretty much eliminates belligerent status for FARC, doesn't it?

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robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:12:

I was writing the same Cassini, but then I red the full article and his words were pretty different. But you have a point here...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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catherine b says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:19:

"It is a true scandal that a minister of interior says that. His goal is the civil peace and maintaining yhe order not excusing threats."

Really? And what are Senator Cordoba's duties as a Colombian citizen and elected representative of Colombian people and Colombian interests?

What's truly scandalous are individuals who still try to portray farc as "noble" "freedom fighters" and ejercito del pueblo when we all know what monsters they truly are.

Here's another example of how "el ejercito del pueblo" takes care of el pueblo.

http://www.eltiempo.com/conflicto/noticias/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-...

Enero 24 de 2008

Comité Internacional de la Cruz Roja rescató 7 muertos que deja la guerra entre Farc y Eln en Arauca

Los cuerpos fueron encontrados en Arauquita y trasladados a Saravena. Con ellos, ya suman 25 muertos, entre civiles y guerrilleros, en la confrontación.

Líderes campesinos la atribuyen a la declaratoria de guerra de las Farc a los elenos por 'avalar' la exploración de Occidental en el campo Caporal (Tame), a cambio de obras para la comunidad.
Esto ha afectado a comunidades de Saravena, Arauquita, Tame y Fortul.

La defensora Regional, Gloria Cuitiva, dijo que por ello 2.017 campesinos e indígenas se han desplazado.

Contó que una misión humanitaria recorrió el departamento y estableció que numerosas familias no han declarado su situación sino que están hacinadas en casas de amigos o familiares por temor a represalias de las guerrillas.

Roberto Mignone, de la Oficina del Alto Comisionado para los Refugiados (ACNUR), pidió más apoyo del Estado.

"El desplazamiento de indígenas es un tema de gran preocupación por sus fuertes lazos con la tierra, de la que depende su supervivencia cultural", enfatizó Mignone.

Advirtió que entre ellos hay muchos niños, lo que podría retrasar el inicio del año escolar "a menos que se tomen medidas urgentes".

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billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:21:

I know It's hard for you to fathom, being a commie and all, citizens of Colombia are free to express their opinions, specially to their elected representatives.

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robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:22:

catherine & billy, we already know that Piedad acted like a prick. But that does not mean that a minister, who is not a normal citizen, should say something like that.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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tasco66 says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:23:

Cassini, look at what Chavez is saying about Colombia and Uribe if you want to see a true scandal...

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:24:

I like the way Uribe is managing the new insults... silence and work

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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billyb says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:25:

Holguin also said the following in the same article

"No obstante, el ministro Holguín pidió que se respetaran las opiniones de la senadora Piedad Córdoba y dijo que se debe preservar el libre juego de la democracia en el que se respeten las opiniones de los demás."

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robi666 says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:27:

I wrote "I was writing the same Cassini, but then I red the full article and his words were pretty different"

Ok, now we are talking the same language :-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

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catherine b says on Jan 24, 2008, 15:29:

robi, bear in mind that Piedad has done nothing more than accuse the Colombian government of just about every conceivable crime including trying to get her killed. What was her response to this incident? That it was the government's doing. That the government is "inciting" violence towards her. The last time Uribe mentioned her to the Colombian people was to thank her publicly for her role in facilitating the liberation of Clara Rojas and Consuelo Gonzalez.

Cordoba wants to shift the blame yet AGAIN on Uribe's government and not recognizing that it is her behaviour that is the cause of this animosity from so many Colombians.

The minister was basically telling her "Hey don't blame us for your unpopularity."

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tasco66 says on Jan 25, 2008, 05:30:

Cassini, nothing surprises me anymore from your brainwashed mind..

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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tasco66 says on Jan 25, 2008, 05:58:

Cassini, if you want to see a real scandal, watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJmvEo_VCU8

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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tasco66 says on Jan 25, 2008, 08:48:

Cassini next time you are on an Avianca flight, please say out loud what you have been posting here “Viva Chavez"…

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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pedro says on Jan 25, 2008, 08:53:

On that subject. Cassini, I'm curious if you talked much politics and ideology while in Colombia.

Were you ever threatened with or delivered an ass kicking by Colombians due to your views?

que nota!

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billyb says on Jan 25, 2008, 09:02:

Hah, he only talks that shit from the safe confines of Europe.

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Guacharo says on Jan 25, 2008, 09:38:

Amigo Cassini77... Es muy facil defender a quienes apoyan el terorismo y a los gobiernos mediocres de latinoamerica cuando se vive dentro de la seguridad de Europa.

Ya quisiera verlo yo si usted viviese en Colombia o Venezuela y tuviese que tener su casa enrejada, temeroso de salir a la calle por la delincuencia, que el salario mensual le alcance para adquirir cada vez menos alimentos para sus hijos, que tema a cada minuto que usted o algun miembro de su familia pueda ser secuestrado para no verlos mas.. ¿Que opinaria?

Y es entendible: alla solo reciben la información manipulada que emiten los gobiernos para hacerle creer al mundo que sus regímenes son la 8va maravilla del Siglo XXI, pero no reciben la información sobre la cruel realidad que vive el pueblo diariamente.

¿Sabía usted que, por ejemplo, en Venezuela murieron el año pasado mas ciudadanos a manos del hampa que los que murieron en Iraq a causa de la guerra "generada" por Bush? ¿Cuantos colombianos mueren anualmente a manos de las guerrilla (FARC, ELN, etc)?

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webmanco says on Jan 25, 2008, 12:36:

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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tasco66 says on Jan 25, 2008, 13:06:

Air France??? Aren’t they always on strike?

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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catherine b says on Jan 25, 2008, 14:34:

"Nowadays if you are not a fan of Uribe, you are named "FARC". It is fully hysterical."

No, there's plenty of anti uribists who are not farc supporters.

It's those who are incapable of accusing and denouncing farc with the same visceral hatred with which they accuse and denounce other groups who are in league with farc. It's fully hypocritical.

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tasco66 says on Jan 25, 2008, 14:39:

Yep, when it comes to hypocrisy Cassini has no limits…

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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