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Peter, I want to ask you in all seriousness what is the point of PBH anymore? When I use to read it on a daily bases there was valuable information for people who were travelling in Colombia. However, now it seems completely run by a small group of flamers who destroy any serious post.
I see users like titofijo, thruthspeaker and several others who are contributing absolutely nothing to this board except flaming and trolling. Over the last couple of years some of the best posters have left. So what is the real objective of PBH? Is it supposed to be a travel guide or a place where a bunch of sex tourists fight with other under anonymous handles?
I am not gong to take sides on any of the arguments but clearly all parties are very knowledgeable about prostitution in Colombia. Those who are openly condemning it seem to know even more than some of the people promoting it. It would appear that the trolls are in fact sex tourists themselves and simply using PBH as a way to attack other sex tourists they do not like.
So is the future of PBH going to be a place where sex tourists fight it out? Or is it going to be a real travel guide?
RobertinMedellin is a well know sex tourist on ISG.
Morphis is actually a guy named Brubanker who makes porno videos of prostitutes.
Medellinmadman is pimping girls. It is clear from his site http://www.medellinmadman.com
Albert is pimping girls. You can see it here: http://www.medellin-vip-hotel.com/photos.html
Rumronrum is pimping all of Albert’s businesses.
Titofijo and Thruthspeaker are a couple of sex tourist who attack everyone else however their knowledge on these topics makes it clear they are insiders.
Elmodefoque posts almost nothing expect prostitution reports.
Raay and robbi (are they really the same person?) pretend not to be sex tourists but also seem to know way too much to not be.
So Peter, what is it going to be? Are you going to continue to allow PBH to be nothing but a fighting ground for sex tourists? Or are you going to turn it back into a travel guide for backpackers?
I would like to come back and begin posting about my regular travels. I have been in many Colombian cities over the last few months. I know other people who are backpackers who also want to come back on PBH. However, none of us are interested as long as these people continue their endless flamewars on the site.
Peter, please consider getting rid of them all once and for all. I really do not think your intention when you made PBH was to provide a forum for these types of people. They are an embarrassment for all of the regular travelers to Colombia. They all provide absolutely no valuable information outside of their bickering.
Here is what I would suggest.
Delete them all once and for all.
Stop signups from random people.
Require all new signups to post as small 200 word report about what they plan to post about or about their previous experiences in Colombia.
Only allow new members who are serious travelers and completely illuminate the trolls once and for all.
Just go back and look at all the posts from people like Truthseeker. Almost everything he posts is one big troll. However, he has been allowed to continue posting this garbage for a long time. I use him as he is one of the clearest examples yet there are many other people who are equally pathetic.
I hope you will consider my recommendations. Once all these types of people are gone I am sure many of the real travelers will return to make PBH a great site.
By KevinL on Jul 14, 2008, 23:00 in Friendly Talkzone.
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Sam Salmon says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:08: Life is hard....the you die... ' a la orden!' 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Catfish35 says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:14: I agree with you 151% ! "So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:25: " Raay and robbi (are they really the same person?) pretend not to be sex tourists " .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Catfish35 says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:29: See? There he goes again...ruining a perfectly good post! "So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:31: hee hee.................. .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Catfish35 says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:32: Hey got any knowledge on BMW Motos ? "So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Catfish35 says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:33: Like do you think its over kill for there? "So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:48: where's " there ".?? .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Catfish35 says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:53: MED and Travels about...there and about..some long hauls. "So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Catfish35 says on Jul 14, 2008, 23:55: They got that 1200LT I have fallen in lust with...ooops better not talk lust on this post. However, did not see many BMW's there...I guess that may answer my own question huh? "So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Man Tequila says on Jul 15, 2008, 01:35: Odd post for a newbie. Good thing it is important. Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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el flaco says on Jul 15, 2008, 01:37: I still get a lot of good travel information from the site. I also enjoy the video clips. There is gold but you have to pan for it.
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El Vato Loco says on Jul 15, 2008, 02:14: Yes I agree with El Flaco -- I have been lurking a bit here and found a lot of information that is very helpful... que bueno es encontrar el oro y la plata entre mucha platica de babosos en todos lados del internet... aqui si hay cosas buenas (el que busca encuentra...)
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robi666 says on Jul 15, 2008, 02:47: This sex tourist, who got here around three years ago to live after being married for two, woke up to prepare el tetero for his beautiful lady, who's three months old. The boy is sleeping. "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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robi666 says on Jul 15, 2008, 02:52: By the way... I have never seen Ray with a girl. I suspect he is gay... "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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robi666 says on Jul 15, 2008, 03:16: Titofijo is a resident. Not a tourist. "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Jul 15, 2008, 03:25: the temperature is 87 degrees over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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webmanco says on Jul 15, 2008, 03:54: Thanks Elmo for the Cuca´s TRM, I hope KevinL never makes it as moderator. Life is a bitch but, life goes on. ...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 05:11: "Morphis is actually a guy named Brubanker who makes porno videos of prostitutes"
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Philly says on Jul 15, 2008, 05:32: Personally, I believe what we do and how we choose to live our lives is our own private business. The one above is the only person who has the right to judge us, no one else. Let these people live their lives how they want and stop judging them.
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tasco66 says on Jul 15, 2008, 05:38: "Raay and robbi (are they really the same person?) pretend not to be sex tourists but also seem to know way too much to not be" Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 05:51: "Raay and robbi (are they really the same person?) pretend not to be sex tourists but also seem to know way too much to not be"
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paisa29 says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:00: I agreed KevinL 100%... the lack of the seriouness is one of the reasons to keep myself away from site most of the time, I guess the same goes for the other women here.
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:01: "PETER PLEASE READ -VERY IMPORTANT!"
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pavo says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:01: The reality is that this site would decease if it was limited to just backpackers. Most backpackers don't share enough passion for Colombia nor the knowldege required to give the consistent feedback people come looking for here. The expert advice given on this site comes from people who have lived in Colombia or are Colombians with in depth knowledge of the country and it's inner workings. How many backpackers could dispense detailed advice on Colombia specific subjects such as: visas, finances and taxes, Colombian law, real estate, low to high class restaurants, political analisys, language and slang, divorce, tourism, and on and on.
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pavo says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:17: And those people with the websites. I don't see them on PBH frequently. Leads me to believe you are using this dramatic link to publish those websites. Well done. You got me.
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gringoloid says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:21: the op has a legitimate complaint even though i don't agree with the op's point.
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Rikito says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:24: KevinL, Peter does not need to do anything. The only reason these children are here is becasue someone reads there foolishness and then replies. They merely want attention becasue they are not able to in the real world. All you have to do is not reply...then they go away. It is not life that matters, but the journey. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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romy says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:32: "And those people with the websites. I don't see them on PBH frequently. Leads me to believe you are using this dramatic link to publish those websites. Well done. You got me."
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webmanco says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:34: Just to be fair if Rubito and GIB should not had been kicked out PBH, neither should Buggy, but then again I do trust Peter judgement, I do think he is doing a great job and is fair. ...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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gringoloid says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:37: I want to make one correction, GIB resigned his membership here and asked that all his comments be deleted. GIB's subsequent personalities were the ones deleted.
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gringoloid says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:40: web.......i also think buggy and rubito should not have been deleted. they are a product of their environments.
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pedro says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:42: Pavo, good comments and insight. Agree with everything you say, except that GIB was not kicked off. que nota! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pavo says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:46: I stand corrected. And I think everyone would agree. GIB took the plunge and went overboard. He did make for great reading.
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:46: pavo says on Jul 15 (today): flag
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Rikito says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:47: another problem you have in here are the moderators. some of them are good...like 'kat' for instance, but many like to think that they are the moral conscious in here. They like to insert or interpret their opinions of what is right and what is wrong. Where some of them are from socialism is scared and open comments are discouraged becasue someone might be offended by the truth. It is not life that matters, but the journey. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pavo says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:50: Sloop. My reference was to the two websites in this link promoting the room and whoard in Medellin. Not the other blog.
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 06:56: The mods here do sometimes proselytize a bit, but that would be tough to resist if you are passionate about a topic. It is far less offensive here, than at the other blog.
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aztec says on Jul 15, 2008, 07:23: This is not a response about any alleged sex tourist. Rather a comment that I have never knowingly met a back packer in Colombia. This is evidently because they travel in different circles.
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 07:48: Good response, aztec.
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tasco66 says on Jul 15, 2008, 07:53: looks like buggy's left wing friends are missing his Chavista propaganda, Jajajaja Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kalder says on Jul 15, 2008, 07:58: I actually think buggy did own a home in Colombia. "kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sanandressi says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:01: I have been surprised that someone could call themselves "elmodefoque" in this forum. It is crude and I don't see anything funny about it but after reading his posts I think he lacks luv and needs a hug. Maybe two?
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kalder says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:04: "Elmodefoque"s nothing. What about the posters "CharlieCunt" or "FannyShitBollocks"? "kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:16: In short: we try to delete trolls. We don't always do a perfect job, that's true. It's hard. But: we can't start deleting people because of things they do in their life outside of this site. That would mean we'd have to police everyone's entire life, and that's not practical nor desirable. Poor but snappy 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:19: Depending on perspective, I think I have the best/worst timing.
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MitchAlvarez says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:23: oh god......ok how about we talk about some important news instead: "Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France" 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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mcheasley says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:40: KevinL, I have been coming to this site for over a year now and i have found quite a bit of useful info about Colombia... I visit Medellin every 2 months and i am always up to date on whats going on.... There are people on this site that i have respect for and enjoy reading their comments as i find them quite useful... As far as your complaints, I agree that 1 person using different names to promote his business is a little shady... ( I have met 1 of them from here)... And the name calling and insults get too out of hand at times... BUT, i have the option of not reading or replying and stirring things up even more... I find alot of the comments untasteful, RUDE, and childish... Thats when i go to the next post... We all have the option to read what we want to and click out when we want to... Make it a GREAT day!!!!
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:49: The funny thing is KevinL is a troll and a sex tourist. It never ends around here.
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huskie says on Jul 15, 2008, 08:57: Welcome back PBH "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-" 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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papiChulo says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:00: KevinL is a sex tourist? Well I guess he's one of those chichipato gringos that short change my girls all the time. I hate those NMG's....jajajaja you'll never go before your time 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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nueva york bombero says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:08: Hey, how do I get on that list above???
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:15: I deny ALL accusations by Robi's monger clique :)
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nueva york bombero says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:16: Yo Morph, how come you don't send me any of those videos?
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:19: OK if anybody wants a DVD, send me $10 via Paypal
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nueva york bombero says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:21: ok, as long as it's not Elmo banging out underaged hookers in Bqlla....
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:23: No way! I'll send you a DVD of Elmo if you want though. Let me check with him first.
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nueva york bombero says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:25: Easy Mr. Brubanker, then you'll have to pay him royalties!!!
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webmanco says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:27: Peter and mods do a good job at deleting trolls, what happens is that we don´t always know a troll has been deleted., here is an example Faustino, with a colombian flag and all ...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte7 says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:31: another fricken newbie with the solution --that needs immediate attention--(did you all hear that...especially YOU peter) this chap's got the 'silver bullet' dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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nueva york bombero says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:33: How bout that for venting?!?!?
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tejasmarcos says on Jul 15, 2008, 09:51: wow. remind me to not make protocol suggestions here ;) trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:12:
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CanadaMan says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:15: worldeditor = powwow = KevInL ?? Or is the OP the Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:25: I don't think worldeditor and powwow were the same, but I did sometimes wonder, although powwow played it too simple, and non-arrogant. This guy, who knows? I think medo was before my time.
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tasco66 says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:28: funny how this newbie troll got everybody's attention, including the mods. Why is it that troll posts get the most attention on this site? Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:29: But, it seems they all share one trait, they all seem pitiful and crave ATTENTION!
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tejasmarcos says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:29: medo is a night troller. trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:30: Sure tasco, they were probably ignored as children.
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robi666 says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:30: I want to clarify something about the whole sex tourist matter. "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:46: What ever makes ya' happy man. You definately have me confused with someone who gives a shit what you think.
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:49: What about you Robi and your drunken monger clique? You guys reek of alcohol and can be smelled a block away. You all ride motorcycles around drunk. Then you pat each other on the back and tell each how great you all are. I think your behavior has been despicable lately.
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tasco66 says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:51: Boy, this troll post has worked beyond the troll’s expectations Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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robi666 says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:51: Ok Morphus, if you want to get it you get it. "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tasco66 says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:53: Peter you need to put a new topic up under "Troll posts" Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:54: Then theres the harassment of the German guy looking for a roommate just because he put a post up on WSA. FYI...Not everybody on there is a full-fledged monger. Even if he is, he does'nt deserve such harassment by you and your buddies.
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sloopskipper says on Jul 15, 2008, 10:55: Really, tasco. They're comming outa the woodwork, including one who must have two handles.
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robi666 says on Jul 15, 2008, 11:08: Morphus, you know nothing about that guy. "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tasco66 says on Jul 15, 2008, 11:08: I can’t believe Peter is taking this post seriously. Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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dwmte7 says on Jul 15, 2008, 11:11: for a brief moment i imagined the thread starter was our dear brother, toby boy...then, coming to my senses, i realized, naw, toby was a rich, aryan, international lawyer, laden with countless lackies benieth him and was always on his way to give a presentation on, what was it? transcendent functions or something out there like that? naw, couldn't be toby. dwmte 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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morphus says on Jul 15, 2008, 11:29: Robi and Tito could just call the police if you see somebody doing something wrong in Colombia. They live right near the German guy. Why don't they just settle it in person or make a report with the police if the man is so horrible?
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robi666 says on Jul 15, 2008, 11:54: Why call the police? Do you think that the guy is doing something against the law? "I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kernow62 says on Jul 15, 2008, 14:15: I used to post wonderful insightful posts on here, long before most of you knew how to type. It has all been downhill since then. I am now to the point where I only post crap to piss people off. Life is too short to take seriously. My aim is to piss off as many people as I can before I am laid to rest.
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RAAAY says on Jul 15, 2008, 23:11: Interesting post..............I think I'll call a few hookers over..........see what they think........... .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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