Peso $1916COP

tejasmarcos says on Jun 27, 2008, 09:41:

what are your thoughts BBD?

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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morphus says on Jun 27, 2008, 09:45:

Anybody making money off of this with FOREX? Gringoloid?

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Jun 27, 2008, 10:37:

Another move up is good. Where would everyone like to see the PESO end up, without being too greedy?

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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morphus says on Jun 27, 2008, 10:47:

3000

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bickerss says on Jun 27, 2008, 10:50:

I am happy once it gets back above 2000. Very happy at 2500 , superhappy at 2800!!

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Jun 27, 2008, 11:04:

When would it be a good time to purchase property in Medellin before the PESO starts to decline?

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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morphus says on Jun 27, 2008, 11:29:

2500

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Cerealkiller says on Jun 27, 2008, 11:39:

I think 2300 is a good price on both ends of the spectrum.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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romy says on Jun 27, 2008, 12:04:

I like 1700

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Jun 27, 2008, 12:06:

We'll catch you on the flipside, right now it's going up.

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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Mononoke28 says on Jun 27, 2008, 12:27:

I reminisce on the good old days when the dollar was above $3000. =)

Diana

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gimmedub says on Jun 27, 2008, 12:53:

I think 1900-2100 is a good place for the peso... colombian central bank needs to buy out as much of their debt as possible (good for the colombian people), lower interest rates (good for businesses and eventually the people), reduce the taxes (50% taxes for a new car???) and let the economy stand on it's own without intervention... colombian gov't should also focus on services for the people i.e. reducing paperwork and time to get anything done!

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BillBigD says on Jun 27, 2008, 13:52:

tejasmarcos- I am suprised that it has moved up this quickly. So I think it chills here or I hope so as i am out.. But when the goverment started buying $ and no threat of interest rate hikes this was a EASY trade. The Chilean peso rose 12% when the goverment started doing this in April.

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SUERTE GRINGO says on Jun 27, 2008, 14:21:

Dólar subió $91 y ganó $243 en una semana

Colprensa - Bogotá | Publicado el 27 de junio de 2008

El dólar se cotizó en promedio a 1.924,10 pesos frente a la Tasa Representativa del Mercado (TRM) de este viernes de 1.832,81 y frente a la del próximo lunes de 1.678,82 pesos.

El Vicepresidente de riesgo y analista de Stanford Bolsa y Banca, �lvaro Cámaro, asegura que el mercado ha operado de manera poco típica durante la semana. “Estamos en un mercado nervioso y muchos aprovecharon para vender. Todo esto fue un producto de la volatilidad�, reconoció.

Además, asegura que no recuerda una semana con tanto movimiento desde la semana de 1995 y que la máxima en los últimos registros históricos fue la segunda semana de agosto de 2007 cuando varió 104 pesos, frente a los 243 de estos días. “Es una barbaridad de movimiento�, afirma Cámaro.

El dólar abrió a 1.906 pesos y cerró a 1.905 pesos, luego de alcanzar un máximo de incluso 1.980,50 pesos y de descender hasta 1.870 pesos, en 1.008 operaciones en las que se negociaron 1.028 millones de dólares.

Hablan analistas
El analista de Serfinco, David Santos, explicó que esto fue una reacción al anuncio del Presidente de la República, que afirmó que convocará al Congreso para que tramite un referendo que llame al pueblo a ordenar la inmediata repetición de las elecciones de 2006 “con idénticas o mayores restricciones para el Presidente, que aquellas en su momento impuso la Ley de Garantías�.

El anunció se produjo como respuesta a la sentencia de la Corte Suprema de Justicia en la que condenó a la ex representante Yidis Medina y pidió revisar la legalidad del acto legislativo que permitió la reelección presidencial inmediata.

Sin embargo, el especialista de Serfinco aseguró que la persistencia en la debilidad de las bolsas internacionales también es un valor que pesa dentro de esta subida de la moneda.

Daniel Escobar de Gesvalores aseguró que "por las medidas del Emisor el mercado está perdiendo confianza y cualquier noticia, como la del Presidente, puede crear una reacción frente al dólar".

La Bolsa cerró al alza
El �ndice General de la Bolsa de Valores (Igbc) subió 0,23 por ciento a 9.179,04 unidades, a pesar de que en lo corrido del año completa descenso de 14,16 por ciento.

Colcap y Col20 cerraron con ganancias: el primero creció 0,24 por ciento a 945,30 unidades; mientras el segundo, 0,04 por ciento a 883,74 unidades.

Ecopetrol fue la acción con mayor crecimiento con ascenso de 2,35 por ciento a 2.615 pesos, luego de que el petróleo tocara un precio récord de 142 dólares el barril.

Valsimesa fue la de mayor caída con retroceso de 4,38 por ciento a 2.400 pesos

Hopefully we see a 2,400 PESO in August for all the festivities.

“If you're gonna eat your crackers in bed, you're gonna have to sleep with crumbs."

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 27, 2008, 15:04:

BBD - i see. tricks learned from history no less. when you say trade, you mean what? did you profit from this reversal? i am looking 4 mechanics to the $$.

- i would assume the purchase of $20 million a day was an offset to the speculator inflow? the govnt just buys more than is being bought? is that the game?

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RJQuilla says on Jun 27, 2008, 15:42:

I am hoping it goes up more to at least 2200. Would be very pleased with that.

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goin_south says on Jun 27, 2008, 18:28:

RJ, that's freakin greedy

Where do we go from here?

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MaFe says on Jun 27, 2008, 19:08:

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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lpdiver says on Jun 28, 2008, 03:31:

g_s why would you say that? It was near 3000 not so long ago. Okay...okay... I am FREAKING GREEDY.

ts

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rocinante says on Jun 28, 2008, 07:15:

This move in the past two weeks is a huge raise for me. I hope it lasts.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 07:37:

morphus..........................i let go the forex for options recently..............you can walk away from the screen for a few hours trading options and it's not so much like casino gambling. and with currency shares etf's you're able to trade all the currencies.

except col pesos of course..............i don''t know of a way to trade pesos or to get forward contracts. if anyone does, please let me know.

you guys all know that i'm set up for negative business news and when you get a really down day in the market like last thursday......................it's staggering how much money can be made.

i told you guys before that this is the greatest money making event of all time coming up in the next two years. you can wind up with 30 to 40 times the amount of money you have now. of course, you four, fives, and sixes have to give your erroneous ways. :)

thursday, i made more in a few hours than i earned my entire first year out of college.

Who are the three blind men?

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bickerss says on Jun 28, 2008, 08:40:

How do you make money out of the market falling? Is that shorting? and what does it involve (if u dont mind divulging the info). ta.

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 08:46:

You buy puts on stocks, or groups of stocks, and make money if they go down in value. If they go down, you win, if you're wrong and they go up, you lose money. Be very careful if you're not experienced with trading. In fact, I would say only do it with someone with alot of experience, if at all. You can lose your ass.

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rocinante says on Jun 28, 2008, 08:53:

All you need to do is buy debit spreads - this way if there is volatility is any direction you make money. Up or down as long as it moves nicely you are making money. When markets are down like they are now there is not a lot of stability and big money is jumping in and out of things. This skittish vibe means movement. Taking advantages of big swings is how day traders like G Loid make money. Flat markets are good for grandmas who collect dividends. Although if you are certain that something is going to tank you can just buy the puts like christobeldawg says.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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tomtom33 says on Jun 28, 2008, 08:57:

This is neat. I just checked in while on the road.

Don't burst my bubble, Roci. I know that November is coming.

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 09:13:

bickerss....................... most people know here that i´m heavily into gold and precious metal options..........and oil............where i´m long.

i´m long on optionable commodity etf´s also.

long on just one stock, nlr, which is a uranium stock. uranium has been over sold and with the energy problems i think uranium will do well in the future. it´s not optionable so i bought stock on margin for the biggest bang.

now for the shorts, or puts.............i put the nasdaq, put the dow, put bank stocks, put the internet companies with real high earnings per share, put the dollar against the euro,

i loaded up last tuesday...

and whammo.......you get a day like thursday...................and holy moly!!!! i was controlling over a 100,000 shares in option contracts and everything going my way.

but it´s not really what you have as choices in the markets................you gotta think like a conspiracy theorist/conspiracy realist/truthseeker, etc.

as of friday...........i am now really locked and loaded for something bad happening like an attack on Irans oil facilities this summer. i can´t believe W would leave office without some sort of bombing of iran. i could be wrong as i don´t have a crystal ball but if there is an attack......you´ll be seeing another holy moly post from me.

Who are the three blind men?

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 09:20:

bikeress..............just to let you know the other side.........three pbher´s on private email warned me recently that i´m overmargined and i could get really hurt in what i´m doing. they speak with wisdom.

Who are the three blind men?

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bickerss says on Jun 28, 2008, 09:21:

Thank you for the info. Interesting - sounds like somthing one would need to do a course on. I did buy a book called Mcmillions on Options - so I should get off my butt and study it!!

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 09:51:

i'm going to throw out another conspiracy realist theory being that we´re in a peso thread. this looks like a friendly group here and i´ve met rocinante and cdawg in person and as a result they consider me sane. I hope!

i haven´t discussed regional currency integration in quite awhile, (i.e., US dollar, Mexican peso, Canadian dollar merging into the Amero.), because of the ad hominem created.

I also re read that article on the euro from Forbes that was actually posted quite some time ago by King Leonaidas when it came out. (I notice a lot of you guys take that as gospel because it is in Forbes, or some other kind of mass media)

Him and I discussed it on PM and I didn´t buy into it at that time, March I think, and i went long on the euro with currency shares............and yep, you guessed it, holy moly. It´s at what, $1.58 as I write this sentence? I still haven't closed the position but if it hits $1.62 strike price....whopeee!

But back to truth seeking........one thing i gleaned from Forbes' story about the fall of the Euro:

US dollar, Canadian dollar, Mex Peso....PLUS EURO.......= Amero???

Now don't read anything into this........I throw theories into the trash all the time........just something to think about.

Who are the three blind men?

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 09:55:

bickerss.................before i stop commenting on this issue...............to be honest with you i took two huge losses on EWC and EEM last month. it didn´t go my way.

yes, you can make money and brother you can lose it too!!

Who are the three blind men?

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:24:

I have another friend who has been betting long on oil since late last year, and he has hit the motherlode. He is still in the long positions but has taken out alot of profit for partial safety.He is one of those who believes that oil will hit 200 a barrell. His reasoning makes sense, but to me, so does the argument that the current price is partly driven up by all of these speculators.

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:27:

christo - what was his method of investment?

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:35:

He has done it several different ways, but the primary one, I think, was in buying actual crude oil barrells directly, with a long term future delivery date. Honestly, I don't know enough about it to offer much help on the best way to do it. I know the way he bought those futures, he said that couldn't be done in a regular trading account, like Schwab or Fidelity. Gloid may know more about this.
Also, does anybody know anything about trading currencies, like trading through Forex? I only know them because I see their adds pop up when I go those currency exchange rate sites.

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:41:

cdawg, look at the heat that i took when i said oil would reach $80...................and then $150.

these prices are based entirely on fundamentals that can be proven by anyone with an internet connection. they could have done this as i did in 2005.

demand is going up, all suppliers are pumping less...........what happens to the price? this is simply supply and demand as well as economics 101.

speculation means you can go the other way also..............so i don't know why you blame us.

this is what free markets are for.............if i want to believe there is going to be a criminal attack on Irans oil facilities............and i place bets on that forecast................well, that's business.

Who are the three blind men?

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:48:

Well, this friend of mine definitley agrees with you, saying those that think that the prices have been driven up by speculators simply have no good argument to support their position.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:57:

I don't know how liquid the market is (it's a new contract) but a person with a futures brokerage account should be able to trade the Colombian Peso (COP/USD based on the official TRM) on the NY Merc.

http://www.nymex.com/VE_spec.aspx

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lpdiver says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:57:

two problems with this thinking...

There is no shortage of oil or refining capacity.

It is not a free market.

ts

"cook some rice!"

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 10:57:

and if I'm wrong.............i'm going to lose a lot of fokkin money on my oil and gas calls.

but i think that is what capitalism is, .........risks.

Who are the three blind men?

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:07:

cdawg, if your friend is dealing directly in futures contracts with NYMEX........than he is dealing in some huge sums of money.

most of us here on PBH are using long call options conracts on etf's like OIH and XLE; or perhaps individual oil stocks like RIG. and then there are probably some conservative people here who are buying stocks and mutual funds containing energy stocks.

where the big hits are now is in natural gas though................there is a lot of action there, baby.

Who are the three blind men?

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:20:

cdawg..............i used to trade the forex.........very complicated, ......and reminds me of casino gambling. (GIB disagrees)

I still do one move when it shows up to make a few bucks, but forex requires me to be in front of the screen all the time and i travel a lot.

For me, I feel the better way is with options. It can take months to play out, rather than seconds or microseconds and it is much more forgiving, if you know what i mean. you can really lose your ass on the forex. GIB has been doing this for 15 years...........so he has a good understanding. I don´t have the time to learn...........but I do have that one move using bollinger bands on the forex that has worked out pretty good for me.

Who are the three blind men?

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:25:

I'm the same way, don't have time nor inclination to sit in front of the computer all day, so any trading I do has to require somewhat minimal monitoring. You're right Gloid, he is using NYMEX, and has alot more to gamble with than me, or most of us here.

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:30:

lpdiver.................hey man, i´m the conspiracy theorist around here...........i certainly do believe the markets are contrived...........and that´s what i trade on............

i´ve always believed in the 'abiotic oil theory'............but i disagree with you though when you say there is no shortage of refining capacity. I don't see new refineries being built if that was your point.

the powers that be are suppressing oil so that alternative energy sources can be developed.

Who are the three blind men?

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rocinante says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:34:

Bring back the EV1 !

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 11:57:

hey tinto, dude............i had no idea that the peso could be traded. this is similar enough to a forward contract.

halleuleiua.......

you would probably have to do this through a broker as becoming a member is quite costly.

what this means is you can hedge the peso if you´re about to do a big deal, like buying a home or a business, or even a car.

i'll leave speculation to GIB and his peso predictors here.

i will call them this week and get all the details and report back.

Who are the three blind men?

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lpdiver says on Jun 28, 2008, 12:00:

Refineries are currently running at 87% capacity. There is no need to construct new ones. If there is more than one car at the pump I will not stop for gas where is the shortage?

t

"cook some rice!"

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 12:06:

Hey Gloid, can we exchange dollars for pesos at Banco Colombia and get pretty close to the 1872 pesos to a dollar rate? This is off the subject, sortof, but something I need to find out about.

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 12:10:

cdawg........i actually feel that sitting in front of the monitor and watching all the 'noise' of trading all day can be detrimental to your plan. there is so much volatility that you may abruptly change course and wind up hurting yourself. i also go 4 to 6 months into the future so i have a lot of time to bail myself out.

Who are the three blind men?

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miamimike says on Jun 28, 2008, 12:44:

lpdiver says on Jun 28, 2008, 12:00: flag

Refineries are currently running at 87% capacity. There is no need to construct new ones. If there is more than one car at the pump I will not stop for gas where is the shortage?

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LPDIVER---Bingo! You nailed it!

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 28, 2008, 13:06:

recent studies point to no shortage, nor refining capacity. its a sham to bilk the industry b4 technologies begin to change the way we fuel our transportation.

* i buy a hybrid that get twice as much gas mileage, but now the gas is twice as expensive....coincidence? now the car manufacturers have to make up for losses due to re-tooling, therefore there is a 20% markup on the new technology vehicle.

one step forward, two steps back..... its a scam.

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lpdiver says on Jun 28, 2008, 13:10:

Bought my motorcycle today. I can ride it for three years then bring it to Colombia...best of both worlds!!!1jejeje

ts

"cook some rice!"

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MitchAlvarez says on Jun 28, 2008, 13:10:

i feel like im monitoring my portfolio with this dollar/peso watch. jaja

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 13:58:

basically, i would think you would get a little less then the advertised exchange rate for the day, but i can only speak for Colmena where i have my account. Colmena even told me that i should take the money out of an atm and then deposit the pesos to my account rather than wire the money directly into my account.

Who are the three blind men?

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 15:27:

thanks, it's just that I need to pay for an apartment for the entire month when I first get to Bogota, and I can't get that much money from an atm in one day. I may check with my bank to see if they could arrange to allow me to take out more on that one day than normally allowed.

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 28, 2008, 15:29:

find a citibank, max 700k per day

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 15:30:

I've lost so much the last 2 years I no longer call mine a portfolio. I call it a checking account, or maybe better would be my debt load.

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 17:54:

cdawg.............i forgot to mention that a guy moved out of a great furnished apartment today; small, but well priced and you don't have to worry about the money in advance and no deposit......all utilities and internet included for $500 a month, usd. very near LilaM's home.

Who are the three blind men?

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deathnova says on Jun 28, 2008, 18:54:

I am very greedy, I need as many pesos to my dollar as possible. Regarding the Forex comment, I don't even know where you would trade COP (professionally that is) and i'm a broker here in the U.S.

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gringoloid says on Jun 28, 2008, 19:28:

i'm going to check this place out for trading the peso,

http://www.nymex.com/VE_spec.aspx

Who are the three blind men?

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RJQuilla says on Jun 28, 2008, 20:26:

Would be greedy if I was manipulating the COP to my gain. I am merely hoping but, yes I am greedy at times. :)

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christobeldawg says on Jun 28, 2008, 20:28:

I also am merely hoping, but I do believe that a peso around a steady 2000 would be best for the general interest of both the US and Colombia, from my limited understanding.

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Medellin Traveler says on Jun 29, 2008, 06:07:

I would think many Colombians living abroad would be happy with the PESO at above 2000, so they start sending money back home to their families. I've heard so many Colombians comment on the limited funds they are able to send back home with the weak dollar exchange.

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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lpdiver says on Jun 29, 2008, 06:10:

That would be true in my wife and myselfs case. We have a set dollar amount that we send and it had been shrinking.

ts

"cook some rice!"

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miamimike says on Jun 29, 2008, 19:24:

LPDiver-I'm like you, I bought a used 250 Honda Helix 2 months ago that gets like 65 mpg around town(before, my 50cc yamaha scoot got 80mpg but no power) so I use my Car as little as possible. Why enrich Big Oil? I actually did something not to,,,and some times I don't even use the scooter but my peddle Bike or the city bus, even less diesel yet,,,big Oil won't get rich off my wallet

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MaFe says on Jun 29, 2008, 19:59:

Rubito...too many people depend on the outside money! TOO many!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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christobeldawg says on Jun 29, 2008, 20:09:

I think eventually, not likely in my lifetime, the world will effectively have one currency, as we are getting closer and closer to each other.

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gringoloid says on Jun 29, 2008, 20:14:

be careful with mentioning that thought about regional currency integration here on pbh. they can't handle the truth.

Who are the three blind men?

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christobeldawg says on Jun 29, 2008, 20:20:

I didn't realize that was a prob here, only that some people say that a common currency spells doom and gloom to the planet jaja

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minina says on Jun 29, 2008, 20:23:

I'ts good for me that the dollar goes up a little bit . I have a trip coming soon and I would like to have a little more buying power.

DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS...

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gringoloid says on Jun 29, 2008, 20:24:

cdawg..........i can't look up the thread but you wouldn't believe the ad hominem directed towards me about the amero.

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christobeldawg says on Jun 29, 2008, 20:43:

gloid there are many attack dawgs here, that's the only problem I have with this site. Maybe they will call the new world currency something other than euro or amero, so as not to offend the other countries outside of those stronger economic regions. Got any ideas?

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christobeldawg says on Jun 29, 2008, 20:50:

agreed Rubito but I think one of the posters said they had agreed on sending a set amount, so maybe that is the compromise that works.

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gringoloid says on Jun 30, 2008, 06:39:

i've mentioned before that i use just one source to determine future trends, the Council on Foreign Relations. They're a group of people that submit papers on various global issues. I only look in the media for any kind of verification of what they've finally decided on as policy. Bush and the Congressman are just messenger boys. The CFR takes its orders from the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

the world is becoming flat so why wouldn''t the currencies also follow suit? the question is how can you make some money out of the changes in policy?

http://www.cfr.org/publication/16147/academic_module.html">http://www.cfr.org/publication/16147/academic_module.html

I never buy any of their books, the members all have blogs where they discuss what's in the books for free. There is some really good information on this site.

http://www.cfr.org/

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goin_south says on Jun 30, 2008, 06:57:

anyone got a read?
what's the peso kicking in at today??

hola rc.

Where do we go from here?

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gringoloid says on Jun 30, 2008, 07:44:

i'm looking at 1907.500 at 9:44

Who are the three blind men?

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deejboram says on Jun 30, 2008, 08:16:

Live rates at 2008.06.30 15:14:36 UTC
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1 USD = 1,932.50 COP

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kalder says on Jun 30, 2008, 09:20:

"Bush and the Congressman are just messenger boys. The CFR takes its orders from the Royal Institute of International Affairs."

So 1776 and all that is just an illusion? What a charming idea...

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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RJQuilla says on Jun 30, 2008, 12:15:

It has been far to the left for a minute so the other way for awhile will even things out and better help me enjoy my vacation. I would like to feel like a big baller u know.

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