PBH T-shirt design contest

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 18, 2008, 13:18:

BMP

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PBHjon says on Nov 18, 2008, 13:35:

i can think of some funny designs, but they might earn me a permanent ban from this website :)

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Mononoke28 says on Nov 18, 2008, 13:46:

No TNA please. =)

Diana

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 18, 2008, 13:49:

Monita Linda says on Nov 18, 2008, 14:26:

LIBERAL? TRAVELER? LEFT-WING?

PBH.com!

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 18, 2008, 16:10:

Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 18, 2008, 16:19:

greg says on Nov 18, 2008, 16:19:

Good idea. Looking forward to seeing the different designs. Who will decide the winning design?

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 18, 2008, 16:25:

goin_south says on Nov 18, 2008, 17:39:

Notify Mario, and consider the Macha with the Monkey.
It was great! He wanted that there would be t-shirts made of it.
I'll check to see if I still have the print.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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romy says on Nov 18, 2008, 17:47:

The 'I heart Medo' shirt is actually a pretty good inside joke

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dwmte7 says on Nov 18, 2008, 17:51:

TNA....???

patriarch

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docbaker says on Nov 18, 2008, 18:10:

Ima Broke, Bummin ass bitch...but I be Happy!

To achieve great things...you must live as though you are never going to die!

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Man Tequila says on Nov 18, 2008, 20:47:

Some of Medoblado's suggestions are pretty funny.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 18, 2008, 21:25:

Medoblado has gone somewhere else with his t-shirts.
I saved his comments but they were already gone (I didn't delete his t-shirts)

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goin_south says on Nov 18, 2008, 22:25:

Johnny, that is definitely 'kissin arse'

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Nov 18, 2008, 22:26:

you didn't delete the t-shirts, Desi?
Then, what happened to 'em?
Like gringoloid says, some were pretty funny (good)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 18, 2008, 22:46:

dwmte7 says on Nov 19, 2008, 03:33:

peter....there will probably be a number of good designs surface...both serious and funny. why not more than one?

patriarch

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 05:41:

No, goin_south, I didn't and they are not in deleted comments either so the only possible explanation is that that the troll packed them up in his trollcase before he was helped out of the door.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 19, 2008, 07:48:

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goin_south says on Nov 19, 2008, 07:56:

and, then there can be the Wet PBH T-Shirt contest ;-)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 08:14:

Ok, there is a bug. I didn't delete his posts or comments, just his handle and the piccies were gone just the same.

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 08:20:

This troll is playing a stupid game with me. The pictures are not in deleted comments either. He just pulled them off himself!

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 19, 2008, 08:26:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 08:31:

I WANTED to leave them on, but they just disappeared. This is very weird. If it's a bug Peter needs to look at it. Bit then, the pictures would be in deleted comments and they're not there. The trolls other post from last night is still there (deleted user). Perhaps it's a bug that makes only pictures disappear?

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kalder says on Nov 19, 2008, 08:31:

That 'missingKat' photo is in appalling taste. How you can use the McCanns to promote your little jokeen is beyond me.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 10:43:

I like "PBH, where Colombia is spelled with an O" but it's too long. LOL.

Diana

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 19, 2008, 10:51:

Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:13:

I would never wear the panty ones, mainly because Medo has never been... down here.

Diana

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Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:18:

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diana

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Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:19:

I love the first three by the way and the wording on the Tie Dye as well. I've just never liked that tie dye style.

Diana

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Sam Salmon says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:23:

Just the hand drawn earth with poorbuthappy.com below it-all lower case letters.

Put it full sized on the back and small on the front pocket-Tee shirts must have pockets!

' a la orden!'

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:25:

Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:29:

T-shirts with pockets?! Say whaaa?

Diana

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:36:

Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 11:38:

I agree because no one will know what PBH stands for and I'm pretty bitchy and don't have the time to explain it to anybody who asks. =)

Diana

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Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:06:

I like the first and last ones.

Diana

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:38:

Monita Linda says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:44:

Walking ATM!!! I am a gringo!!! LOOK AT ME!!

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Mononoke28 says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:44:

How are you guys doing that? I can't even think of how to post a freaking shirt on here.

Diana

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:45:

Darn!
It happened again!

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:47:

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:53:

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:55:

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 12:59:

Ok, now I know that there's bug. I didn't delete the pictures or any of Medoblado's comments when I deleted his handle, yet the pictures and the comments in this thread disappeared. I had saved some of them in my computer in case it would happen again.

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 19, 2008, 13:01:

I don't have the last batch. If you want me to put them up again send me the links.

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Elmin says on Nov 19, 2008, 13:22:

too bad they got deleted again, there were some nice ones

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Sam Salmon says on Nov 19, 2008, 13:29:

http://i37.tinypic.com/s40vif.jpg

this one without the text-just the URL and the drawing nada mas.

' a la orden!'

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goin_south says on Nov 19, 2008, 14:51:

but, the 'poorbuthappy.com' needs to be on the shirt, too,... if you want to use it as a way to build the readership/writership. no?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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romy says on Nov 19, 2008, 18:23:

from Lila's I like #5, I wouldn't mind going out for a jog in one of those

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Bill Turley (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 19, 2008, 19:07:

goin_south says on Nov 19, 2008, 22:33:

Lila.... You ALMOST made me ruin a keyboard, with that one (MOUTH FULL... LAUGHING OUT LOUD!.)...

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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august says on Nov 19, 2008, 22:36:

I think it should be somewhere along the lines of:

DON'T CALL ME GRINGO
pbh

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goin_south says on Nov 19, 2008, 22:36:

""I'm pretty bitchy and don't have the time to explain it to anybody who asks. """

jajaj.. Mononoke... I don't think anyone here really believes that.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Nov 19, 2008, 22:39:

Maybe then,... something with...

............................. PERDIDO EN ESPACIO: POBRE PERO FELIZ................
................................................poorbuthappy.com.........................

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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sloopskipper says on Nov 20, 2008, 03:42:

Not sure how the foto might work on a silk screen:



It didn't render well on the shirt foto.

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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Bill Turley (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 20, 2008, 04:35:

Monita Linda says on Nov 20, 2008, 05:16:

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 20, 2008, 06:01:

Loggi says on Nov 20, 2008, 10:31:

sloopskipper You have my vote.Where can we order?

Live for the moments you can't put into words

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 20, 2008, 10:34:

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 20, 2008, 12:58:

Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 20, 2008, 13:40:

"I haven't seen a good design yet.. some funny ones, sure, but not nice designs."

Since you're the boss and since you're the ultimate judge, it would help if, "good"/"nice" being YOUR subjective values, you'd tell us what you expect.

E.g.:

- Do you expect a logo?
- Do you expect a pix?
- Do you wish "www.poorbuthappy.com" to feature on the t-shirt?
- Do you have a favorite color (I'm sure you do)?

Some guidelines would be appreciated!

Better to have tried and failed than having regrets all your life about what you MIGHT have missed

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jomilena says on Nov 20, 2008, 17:00:

te amo

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sloopskipper says on Nov 20, 2008, 17:17:

Self deleted

Seems that some people think "everybody's outa step but me".

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billyb says on Nov 20, 2008, 19:54:

I like have-a-nice-day's best. clean, to the point and will make people curious as to what it is about, so could serve as a conversation starter.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Nov 20, 2008, 21:58:

I like Jomilena's; but, it would look alot better ON HER - WET!

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Man Tequila says on Nov 20, 2008, 22:22:

Travel makes a wise man better, and a fool worse. Poorbuthappy.com

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 00:02:

- Do you expect a logo? -> Not really. Maybe the monkey, maybe the white-on-black "PBH". We don't really have a logo...
- Do you expect a pix? -> that, or just words...
- Do you wish "www.poorbuthappy.com" to feature on the t-shirt? -> yea I think so, but it can often be printed on the back, so it doesn't necessarily have to be on the front...
- Do you have a favorite color (I'm sure you do)? It should work on both white and black tshirts I think

Poor but snappy

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babygirl says on Nov 21, 2008, 05:08:

Hahaha. This certainly has everybody's creativity flowing doesn't it? How the HECK do you embed pics in to a post?

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 07:13:

Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 07:25:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 21, 2008, 09:08:

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Mononoke28 says on Nov 21, 2008, 09:09:

Most of the designs I've seen are all in reference to Colombia though. PBH is about traveling all around the world.

Diana

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 09:53:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 21, 2008, 10:24:

Darloup's is not bad, it's simple and elegant.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 10:33:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 21, 2008, 10:52:

I would definitely wear the black one.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 11:33:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 21, 2008, 12:09:

They do wear black t-shirts in Colombia too. But, I was under the impression that this t-shirt was going to be marketed to PBH-members in the first place. Most of us live outside Colombia, I think.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 12:55:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 21, 2008, 13:16:

Oh, I agree.
Can't wait until I get my free t-shirt and go to Cali so I can sit at the Chipichape Mall in my beautiful, black PBH t-shirt and socialize with the rest of the gringos there; perhaps even Monita Linda from Palmira will come and have drink with us, wearing her new PBH shirt.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 21, 2008, 14:07:

Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 21, 2008, 14:48:

This far I have liked Darloup's, Sloopie's, Kat's (providing the other letters will also be landscapes) and yours.

We need more designs.

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goin_south says on Nov 21, 2008, 15:18:

Here's Marios offering:

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Nov 21, 2008, 15:39:

My pic: but, it might need re-doing a bit:

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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billyb says on Nov 21, 2008, 17:54:

jaja, GS, too funny.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Sam Salmon says on Nov 21, 2008, 21:22:

Darlouop's is the best yet!


Simple elegant and easy on the eyes, just like a Colombian woman!

' a la orden!'

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 10:01:

Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 14:18:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 14:24:

The PBH compass currently has 25 points (countries) all represented here:



Peter, you said: "We don't really have a logo..."

How about now?

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 14:41:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 14:58:

Adapted for black background:

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:07:

Silk screen printing would be quite expensive but that method of printing shirts is also reserved for long print runs because the set-up charges to print short run orders is an enormous cost, so screen printed garments are usually printed in high numbers.

In this day and age, there are digital textile printers that print as inkjet direct-to-shirt and the result is a very durable, washable and soft-handed imprint, unlike the Plastisol inks used in screen printing, which usually leave a heavy-handed imprint to the garment. Garment inkjet printers are reserved for printing on light colors, white or pastels, from ash to baby blue, pale beige and tan, etc, since an inkjet cannot print white on a dark color (there is no white ink in an inkjet printing device).

The companies that are now available online for printing custom short run orders generally use the inkjet method and it doesn't matter if you have a zillion colors in your design, it's merely a digital image with a height and a width and the colors are all laid down digitally ;-) but the limitation is that the shirts are light colors or white - but the trade-off is worth it because of the design freedom inherent with this process of printing.

I'd add that when more countries are added, it's the same thing as when more states were added to the U.S. Add the necessary stars and start making flags again.

Not sure I connected with that AIDS remark... beyond me I guess. The motif is a compass with 25 countries represented around that compass, per the current PBH coverage of the world.

This particular design appears to have more impact on the white background, in my opinion, and lends itself quite neatly to digital inkjet garment printing.

Although there was a considerable amount of time spent with this, I think it came together well and the time was well spent, so those are my submissions to all. Yippy Yi O Kai Ayyy and all that.... ;-)

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goin_south says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:21:

yep, I bet that one will fly, G_W.
Hey, the one above that, with all the countries reminds me of a label on a german beer.
And, we're glad to see you put Colombia on Top.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:22:

goin_south says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:27:

.....Aparece igual una ornamento nuevo para su árbol de navidad

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:27:

The resemblance is absolutely UNCANNY, isn't it? :D

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:30:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:30:

So all we need is a metal hook GS?

Colombia on top... it couldn't be any other way. ;-)

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goin_south says on Nov 22, 2008, 15:43:

Ja! I was talking 'bout the virus, but now that I'm visualizing the emblem with a hooker

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 16:12:

I was also talking about the virus. Stick a hook in it and hang it on the tree. I still see no connection with the shirt design and that virus. That's like a leap across the grand canyon. ;-)

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 16:24:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 16:35:

Jiji, so do you see more correlation to the design in the image on the left, or the image on the right?

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 16:39:

Elmin says on Nov 22, 2008, 16:40:

I like your designs Darloup, nice and simple.

Just one remark, The white PBH text on yellow might not work out very well optically.

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 16:40:

I was hoping you would say the image to the right. That's my choice too.
How does this Rorschach image make you feel? There is no incorrect answer. And I've always thought Rorschach test images were nothing more than a form of pop art.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:04:

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:15:

I wouldn't worry other possible contributors about costs since all those fancy colors are not an issue with inkjet garment printing. It is screen printing that costs more as colors are added. I gave a detailed description of the differences between the two garment printing techniques above. Basically, with inkjet garment printing, one color or a million colors still results in a X" x X" imprint and costs the same. I've used inkjet garment printing extensively and still have some shirts as much as 5 years old that haven't noticeably faded.

Peter's mentioned that he's interested in seeing some designs and I don't think anyone should limit their creativity with a one or two color palette - especially since screen printing isn't the mode of production. Get Creative people, and put some thought into it!

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:20:

"It immediately reminds me of a TURTLE..."

That was very good, seriously - looking back at it, I can see that too!

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:23:

Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:37:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 17:51:

OK, whether you're in Europe, Zimbabwe or Wasilla, Alaska, we have the Internet in common. With this international tool and as Peter mentioned "online tshirt shops", it is truly possible these days that the shirts are purchased from an online company, the digital image supplied to the same company for imprinting the garments, and then the same company acts as storefront to those interested in purchasing them. Assuming Peter has a credit card, he can get the ball rolling by typing into an online form or by using an old-fashioned telephone.

And all of this - is really practical and very cost-effective, much more so than traditional screen printing.

Again, allow everyone submitting entries in response to Peter's request to be as creative with their submissions as is technologically reproducible, and as cost-effectively as is possible in this day and age. OK?

Having worked for garment printing companies on and off since 1981, I know a little bit about the subject, its history, trends and current state of the art with regard to digital advances benefiting production techniques, which are not US techniques, but rather Japanese - a very old part of a very old continent.

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:00:

Yes, it's a digital print but there is no transfer. The shirt is loaded onto a pallet, shaped like a pallet on a traditional screen printing press but designed to be able to pass under the inkjet printing head, which then just passes side to side like any old Epson or whatever until the image is completed. It takes a couple of minutes and then that's it. No heat transfer. The result is a totally soft hand as it's called, which means that the only thing you feel to the hand is the shirt, not ink on the shirt as is the case with a lot of (traditionally heavy handed) Plastisol printing. When you see cracks in an imprint, that's Plastisol and that ink was never properly cured. I believe it's about 210°F at 30 seconds on the conveyor through the dryer to get the ink cured with that process.

I'd say that Peter has a very slick and professional community site here ;-)

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:11:

Spin machine? I'm trying to explain the ease of printing as opposed to his scaring other submitting members into not being creative. Twice already (and now a third time) I've asked people to not limit their creativity based on that input. So, spin machine? LOL - on the contrary, I'm ASKING people to get involved and get creative!

You might want to watch who you point fingers at, dude. The more good designs that come out of this, the more fun it will be. ;P

Or should I enter another one with a hatchet hitting a target? That one work for you?

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:18:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:36:

Here, just for you 5N...

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GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:49:

Darloup,

It's just a tee shirt. No need to get in touch with Peter. What I do advocate though is that everyone possible out of the vast number of members get involved and get creative and not limit themselves by cost expectations that don't exist. That's all. It's no big thing really - except it's a nice idea Peter had for members to have fun as they contribute to the site and now more fun if members get involved... hello people?.

The basic thing about offset garment printing is that the amount of ink consumed by the printer is affected more by the area of coverage, rather than number of colors since it's just a digital image and not a color separated screen print image - and beyond that, when these companies estimate their pricing they don't base it on your particular image. They base it on a predetermined cost per impression across the board and also based on the largest imprint the inkjet can lay down, so everybody involved can use all of their imagination as far as colors go.

The size is limited by the size of the pallet, however and that's something like a 14" x 14" area. In the past, I've created multiple files of the same image and scaled to different physical sizes so the image would be appropriate for youth shirts, infant or toddler shirts as well as adult sizes. Here, unlike screen printing where that would require a whole different sets of screens for each image size I would want printed - it's just a different digital file sent to the printer.

Incidentally, to reproduce the ones I submitted earlier using traditional screen printing would amount to five or six screens, depending whether or not the green was composed of blue and yellow dots or selecting a green ink to be used rather than composing the green. I still wouldn't do this using screen printing though, not unless we were talking printing about hundreds of shirts at one time. Inkjet is the way to go. High quality, inexpensive, durable impression, and very easy to fulfill orders nowadays through online shops.

5N,

I haven't used "spin machine tactics" tonight except with the laundry and a little while ago with the commode, and I see no reason to apologize. More like the other way around, dude.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 18:57:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 19:00:

I'll see what I can find online and post any info here so Peter can make use of it.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 19:06:

GringOrion says on Nov 22, 2008, 19:26:

I'm no longer in this business so I'm not the expert Peter needs. In my home town, I know where to go for this kind of thing but I am by no means an expert in online stores or fulfillment houses - or current technology with dark garments. Proof of this is the fact that the last I heard about inkjet printing on dark shirts was only a rumor but it's now a fact of the biz.

The site I'm linking to below will have more information than Peter would ever want to know, and after browsing through the remarks there, the gentleman reviewing these three companies is getting very picky about the quality level. He speaks of a slight white edge on colors printed on a dark garment with the company which ends up being his company of choice, but at the magnification level they're example is shown at - this is clearly not an issue. Nobody is going to be looking at a shirt imprint with a magnifying glass.

Here's the link with a full explanation of the process, reviews of three companies who provide online stores for their clients - and the really good news is that no shirts have to be pre-bought - PBH members buy them on demand. Sweet.

Three suppliers, thoroughly reviewed and links to their sites provided:

http://www.macmerc.com/articles/The_Lab_with_Leo_Laporte_Segments/435

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 19:37:

goin_south says on Nov 22, 2008, 20:25:

The Rorschach test images ...
are actually a cross-section of the motor pathways of the spinal cord

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 20:27:

goin_south says on Nov 22, 2008, 21:49:

turtle in my spinal cord?! = ... reacciones muy despacio (estas gringo???) lol

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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billyb says on Nov 22, 2008, 22:03:

You have to love PBH, where else can two innocent posts about a t-shirt design contest and somebody offering to teach spanish for ten bucks an hour turn into intercontinental mudslinging and questions about Hanging Chads?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 22, 2008, 22:11:

goin_south says on Nov 22, 2008, 22:31:

billy,... it's just a sign that we ALL NEED TO GO TO COLOMBIA

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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billyb says on Nov 22, 2008, 23:09:

Yup. Like Michelle Obama famously said, this is just a MEAN country, LOL>

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Nov 22, 2008, 23:16:

jajaj.. she ain't seen notin jet!

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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billyb says on Nov 22, 2008, 23:24:

What? You think she might join PBH?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 23, 2008, 01:11:

Cheers Terry says on Nov 23, 2008, 01:24:

She was referring to the US.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/10/080310fa_fact_collins?cu...

Cheers,
Terry

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GringOrion says on Nov 23, 2008, 21:50:

Wow earlier I saw someone commented that posts were deleted with designs that were good and the post commenting about the deletions was deleted. This place is scarier than i thought.

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 24, 2008, 03:25:

Nothing to get all excited about, GringOrion. The troll spoke of his own designs that were deleted as I deleted his handle, some of them were deleted by himslef. I saved all his earlier designs and re-posted the relevant ones, we are not going to have women's underwear with the text "Medo was here" in the competition.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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GringOrion says on Nov 24, 2008, 05:32:

Ya probably not a good idea, that one.

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adela says on Nov 24, 2008, 18:53:

PBH t-shirt was so fun. You folk made me happy today! Desi, nice designs, as well Kat's, Darloups, Have_a_nice day ( remains me IBM!).

Màs fe, màs abrazos, màs besos, màs disculpas, màs visitas a nuestros amigos antiguos nos haràn màs plenos cada vez. (Wishing to practice my listening in English virtually)

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goin_south says on Nov 24, 2008, 21:39:

Is that a 'phacesious' commentario, adela? (where are the spelling police??)
Maybe you should design one, reminiscent more of something like Apple.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Man Tequila says on Nov 25, 2008, 22:38:

Facetious? Fatuous? Phaser?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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goin_south says on Nov 25, 2008, 22:40:

Facetious?!

gracias, MT.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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andres123 says on Nov 28, 2008, 08:10:

I know it's probably outdated :) But i had to post it lol

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goin_south says on Nov 28, 2008, 11:28:

that's a good design, now take and put some color in it.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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andres123 says on Nov 28, 2008, 13:25:

O_O Isn't the contest over?

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Desi1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Nov 28, 2008, 13:31:

I don't even know what the prizes are....Peter?

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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andres123 says on Nov 28, 2008, 13:33:

gimme moneyz (lol kidding)

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cuidate says on Nov 30, 2008, 13:05:

I'm new here so I guess I misunderstood this thread. I came here looking for a

"Sticky PBH T-Shirt Contest"

I'm kinda disappointed not just because there are no fotos of chicas in Sticky T-Shirts, but 'cause I had imagined all sorts of interesting expressions for whatever P-B-H might have stood for.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

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capitan_centella says on Dec 1, 2008, 00:40:

sticky?. . .

LETS BODYPAINTED !

desi. . . the pride of being the one who won such a difficult quest. And a free shirt. And a "thank you".

:)

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

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Peter (Moderator) (Trustee board) (Dev team) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Dec 1, 2008, 10:21:

Piapo says on Dec 2, 2008, 05:24:

[IMG]http://i34.tinypic.com/mragw9.jpg[/IMG]

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Piapo says on Dec 2, 2008, 05:25:

http://i34.tinypic.com/mragw9.jpg

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webmanco says on Dec 2, 2008, 10:04:

by Piapo above

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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goin_south says on Dec 2, 2008, 21:27:

a fairly good design, webbermancompany
Only better, I think, with Marios' Monkey.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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bogodaysleeper512 says on Jul 17, 2009, 02:02:

Jomilena and johnny2008 have the two best imho

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 17, 2009, 03:52: