PBH Marriage Posts

lanegrapaisa says on Jul 8, 2008, 23:18:

Amen to that!

oh that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear

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Privatebd says on Jul 8, 2008, 23:33:

Also, I left out, my ex girlfriend was a not a Colombian girl, she was a white girl from New York. Women and Men are the same everywhere, good and bad all over the world. And im not knocking my ex, I care for her very much. We just were not meant to be.

P.S. I Love Colombian women, and women all over the world, our greatest assets are women, I Love you ladies!!!!!!! Muah!!!!!!

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 8, 2008, 23:48:

You can have mine .... never mind - I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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Privatebd says on Jul 9, 2008, 02:04:

Robert Jorge, sorry to hear about your problem, but if it is that bad, then it can only get better. I guess???? Goodluck!!!!!

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dwmte7 says on Jul 9, 2008, 04:08:

he's got a point there, robert....if a relationship is at 'rock bottom', then anything is upward bound. i try to not advise folks on their solutions, as i feel that outside advise is like services of an attorney, and, more often than not, tends to inflame, as opposed to calm, situations.

what i do wish, is that folks try to temper their side, really hear the other side and do as well as they can to love and cherish the other. sometimes that's a real toughie.

all the best, friend............................douglas

dwmte

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Albatross says on Jul 9, 2008, 04:39:

Robert... I'm not trying to pry into your personal life, but I (and I'm sure others here) am planning to bring my novia here on a fiance visa. (my check cleared and I got the NOA1 last week.)

Right now, of course, I think she's a great girl and that its a good idea, but I've heard too many horror stories like yours to be totally sure I'm not headed straight for disaster.

So, in retrospect, did you notice any warning signs that your "sweet Colombiana" was actually a bitch from hell ? What would you look for if you had to do it all over ?

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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morphus says on Jul 9, 2008, 04:54:

R_J, sorry to hear the bad news. How long were you married?

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 05:23:

R_J too bad about your experience as I have read your story unfold. I actually really thought you had a great situation. So sorry to hear about it and would like to hear more. I know you probably don't want to post your story on an internet board but if I can be of help please email me. I might be able to offer some advice as I have seen my share of divorces with clients over the years and have gone through my own. The most important thing is to keep balance and stay focused on what you are trying to do. I will tell you that revenge and anger are your worst enemies at this point.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:07:

having been married and divorced as many times as i have, i ran outta tears a long time ago.

from one crash dive to another, keep your head up and your heart calm...this, too, shall pass.

dwmte

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gabolicious says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:18:

RJ sorry to hear about that...

take care my friend

Elección no canonización....

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:23:

Morph - married March 9th, 2007. 1.5 years???

Brians, I appreciate what you said. But I have tried to do the right thing, forgive, not think of revenge. All that has gotten me is in this situation is more screwed.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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morphus says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:28:

Are you trying to have her deported back to Colombia?

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scumbuster says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:33:

I had a similar situation years ago with a Russian woman, however I discovered it before she had the conditions removed from her green card. Luckily... It’s a real kick in the gut but the more you dwell on it the more it will eat you alive. Write an official letter to USCIS and then leave it to them. Try to forget and move on. I know you want to stick it back to her and deny her what she was conniving to get, but at what cost to your peace of mind. There are many really great women out there and there is one that is just right for you. It just takes some time to find her. And that’s face it, searching is not such a bad time. The most important thing is protect your self financially as much as you can. Close the joint bank credit cards exc. Try to move on and leave it to USCIS.

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aztec says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:35:

Albatross, I have been married 18+ years to a Colombian. We are lucky and have a good marriage.

My reason for this post is to caution you to expect your wife's changing. She WILL become a little of America and Colombia combined. In our case that has worked out fine.

She will not continue to remain that "girl" you fell in love with in Colombia. She will change and grow. If you are lucky she will be a better person for it!

I hope you can adjust also with her growth. Some men can't because it is not easy. Requires much give and take by both individuals.

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:39:

R_J I am probably more of a realist than most people and i would not tell you to try to repair a broken relationship as it probably prolongs and exposes people financially. I think cutting losses is necessary most of the time. What I am saying is that there is exposure and in situations like yours you need to focus on what is important which is you and your financial position and emotional position and not trying to extract revenge. Taking a loss is just that taking a loss so you have to put a price tag on time and emotions. I suggest getting out but even though you may have been screwed you have to focus on "Getting out quick". Make an honest assessment of your goals and hold attorney's advice at arms length. Divorce attorneys financial goals are a direct contradiction of your goals. They have a tendency to stoke fires. Harvest their knowledge of legalities but stay focused on the goal.

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:40:

I have no joint accounts with the Mrs. She is still a conditional permanent resident. She is currently living in my house - I am staying in my friend's apartment.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:49:

Mistake number one as this is now viewed as "Abandonment" under the letter of the law. You really have to be careful and I do not know the state which you reside but State laws are generally scripted to protect the woman. Even though she is not permanent she has rights under the law and generally speaking if she as access to an attorney he will let her know quickly what these are and based on this move to negoiate a settlement based on this. Some states have APL (Alimoney pending litigation) in which you can not obtain a divorce for two years unless jointly agreed. The person making the most is required to split the difference with the other until a divorce settlement. This amount is not counted towards the divorce settlement nor tax deductable. Know your state laws!

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aztec says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:55:

Mistake number one as this is now viewed as "Abandonment" under the letter of the law. '

Could be a problem. A friend of my wife, a woman, moved out of the house. The first thing the lawyer told her was that she must move back into the house. Otherwise the husband's lawyer would allege abandonment.

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elmodefoque says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:57:

i have tried and tried and tried to warn my gringo brothers about MOST (not all) colombianas and their true intentions.
I wish i could give you hints about where to go and who to see but i have never walked that path.
My colombian ex wify is the most honest, loving, devoted young woman i've ever met, but she's a fokin bitch, too damn jelous. Wanted me just for her and only her and i can't be we just one woman, i'm like a cangrejo i like to jump from hole to hole, I;M A TOTAL DICK!!!
Now we are the best of friends and maybe in the future when i get tired of hookers i'll be back with her.
rj,maybe when you're ready and if you want, it would be nice to share all the red flags
strange call from colombian "primos"
etc.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:59:

Very true and like I said earlier divorce attorney's are great at letting a woman know her rights immediately. I have gone through so many divorces with clients it can make your head spin. I have two happening as we speak. Anyway the point is if she is being "Coached" then R_J has a problem and you probably do not want to move to piss her off as it will cost more emotion and money. Remember the goal and then get mad after the papers are signed.

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Albatross says on Jul 9, 2008, 06:59:

I agree, move back in IMMEDIATELY... keep anything important at your friend's house... sleep on the couch if you have to, but it's important that the law does not view you as the one who gave up on the relationship or the one who is screwing around.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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scumbuster says on Jul 9, 2008, 07:06:

If you look at the papers to remove conditions you will see that abuse is listed as a way to get around not being together and filing jointly. Be careful and it may help to have someone with you when your in her presents. All it takes is an accusation to the police and she will have a restraining order against you and the paperwork to continue her quest.

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 07:13:

scumbuster that is actually great advice as well. All it takes is an accusation. I don't mean to put fear into R_J but believe me she has probably more power over him than he can imagine (depending on the state). He needs to work this out quickly and hopefully before she becomes aware of her rights. If she goes to a lawyer it is over as the lawyer will advise her not to listen to him and she will then become paranoid and only trust what the lawyer is saying. Forget about deporting etc.. Just focus on getting yourself legally untied even if it means sucking it up and kissing her ass a little to make it happen. I know this sounds crazy but believe me it is the best advice RJ can get.

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CatGirl says on Jul 9, 2008, 08:13:

PrivateBd: Good post and so true;). I hope no one attacks you - that would be horrible. I'll scratch em if they do jeje

RJ: She is currently living in my house - I am staying in my friend's apartment.

I am very sorry for your situation. Learn your rights and exercise them - also learn "her" rights too. Problem is those people that learn and abuse or manipulate these rights.
This happened to me. My Ex attempted to do this and I am a woman. He went into a crazed rage and called me at work threatening me for no reason. Only thing I could do was go home and try to find out what was wrong....I ended up face to face with someone I did not know at all, not the person I married. He looked like he was coming off something and I thought he was going to *** me. I called the police to try to get help and things got even scarier. "I" had no rights - nada. State Law - Brians is correct. He lied to the police to make sure his rights were covered. But the police knew - it was too obvious what he was doing.
One of the police officers pulled me aside and gave me some good firm advise that I took,....one man knows another.
RJ, just be careful - I really dont know your situation, nor your wife - since you are a man - make sure you always have someone with you when you are with her - preferably someone who is neutral. Remain calm and detached, don't lose your temper or say anything in anger(not worth it).

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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jdixon150 says on Jul 9, 2008, 08:37:

Prenup, prenup, prenup. Thats the first thing Colombian attorney told me. Common Law wife has rights to,cover your a**!!!!

"Life is not a dress rehearsal" Rose Tremain..

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droble77 says on Jul 9, 2008, 08:38:

Robert, we don't know all the details and it's understandable if you don't want to indulge in our need for chisme. . . but from what you've hinted, I would advise you to consult a good divorce lawyer NOW. You need to make sure you can neutralize any possible scam/strategy that your significant other might be using on you.

Sorry about the bad news. I can imagine the sleepless nights, lying in bed, thoughts spinning about the meaninglessness of it all, the WASTE of it all. There are very few things worse for a man. Comfort yourself with the fact that you are not alone, in fact, it's probably the most common experience shared among men. Suerte!

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 08:42:

Droble, that was about the coolest thing anybody had told me in the last 2 weeks.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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CatGirl says on Jul 9, 2008, 08:45:

Jdixon: prenup?...

That will do very little if she is playing games and manipulates the legal system.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:04:

RJ, sorry to hear it didn't work out. We who have followed your love story from Day1, looked at the photos, congratulated you after your wedding, find it perhaps a little extra sad. Without getting into details any further I have been wondering if this was something that you would have never foreseen and if you guys had settled down in Colombia would perhaps not happened?

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:14:

Unfortunately Desi, information I have only learned in the last week prove that it would not have worked even if we lived in Colombia. And now looking back, there were the red flags.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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Albatross says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:24:

Care to elaborate on those red flags ?

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:35:

Not at this point Albatross.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:46:

well, robert, in reality, there's no time for tears right now. you needs to deal with this post haste. get back in your house, or before you know it she can declare 'squatter's rights'. notify the ins and put her in a position of having to address this from colombia. you can not wait til she's got an attorney...nor, you....do as much as you can as quickly as you can. attorneys--your's, their's--always muddy the water. document as much as you can, by date and keep them daily.

remember, my 8 children are from seven wives...i know divorce court like my dick...all to well.

you'll have plenty of time to deal with the highs and lows of all this, a little bit down stream. right now time is of the essence and ins needs notification immediately. if their are issues which involve 'witnesses' get their statements while they're fresh.

move, move....the keeping busy will keep your mind off the painful part. i wish you a lot of strength and focus. douglas

dwmte

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 09:54:

Great advice dwmte. I would add on that thought is to not let her know you have contacted an attorney. She needs to be kept calm and her first reaction will be to contact one herself which if she hasn't already can be really bad. RJ you have to remember you are trying to negoiate a quick exit with as little pain as possible. My first advice is always: "When she makes her first offer. PAY IT!!" As unfair as it may seem or how screwed you may feel it won't amount to shit over the rest of your life and the price of a war will only result in you paying that first offer plus attorney fees and shit load of emotional distraction which only you can place a price tag. Like dwmte said "Deal with the high and lowes of all this a bit down the stream."

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huskie says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:07:

Robert J: Go get her with your mighty brains, do not let her get away with her scamm
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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GregYohn says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:10:

Hola!

If she did not hire an immigration lawyer, she might agree to divorce you via a no fault reason and then she will be less likely to keep her USA residency!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:21:

I don't 'think' she has hired a lawyer. One reason - she has no money. However, she has some excellent coaches. So anything is possible.

I appreciate it Huskie (and others). I do have a few trump cards - at least I hope they are - that can help my case and prove what she is up to. I am talking photos and a mutual friend who has confided in me because she doesn't feel right about what the scam artista is doing.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:24:

depending on the length of the marriage...and from the comments to this thread, it's been short, your trump card is 'marriage under false pretense'. to get the old green(pink) card.


move, move, move. and as brians said, keep her as calm as possible...but with you back under your roof.

dwmte

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GregYohn says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:28:

Hola!

Proving she planned to leave you after marriage is not exactly marrying under false pretenses.

My ICE agent pointed it out!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:28:

Cool, thanks Douglas. I'll be back Online tonight. I will give a progress report if there is anything to report.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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morphus says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:43:

Damn..she does'nt even have to pay for the attorney. A shallow mongering lifestyle is starting to look brighter.

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aztec says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:47:

dwmte7 offers good advice. Drop everything and make this your emergency priority. Every additional day is dangerous to your health!

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:52:

RJ collect evidence but it really doesn't matter whose fault it is...She has rights which she can now exploit which may cost you more. Take my advice and focus on getting this thing wrapped up quick. If she starts the ball rolling (depending on your state of residence) you are are in some trouble so keep her happy and agree that things are not working out. She what you two can agree to end it quickly. DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR BUDDIES ETC>> WHO WILL STROKE YOUR ANGER BUTTOM. Focus on closing this thing up.

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CatGirl says on Jul 9, 2008, 10:54:

PBH - She doesn't need money to hire an attorney. You will be the one to pay her attorney fees that's just how it works

Yep

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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CatGirl says on Jul 9, 2008, 11:08:

PBH says Do your utmost to avoid attorneys; it is in their best interest to establish an adversarial relationship between the two of you and to get you fighting and keep you there as long as possible, that's how they make the payments on their Mercedes Benz

True in a way, but RJ is being fairly vague. I think it depends on the situation and RJ's experience with the system - at least try to obtain some advice (even one discussion) with an immmigration Attny too. One way to try to get a good lawyer that is not blood thristy is go down to the courthouse yourself. Most have a department that will help you complete the forms yourself and someone there to answer questions....they might be able to recommend someone that is affordable, you just have to do all the footwork.

Brains says "She what you two can agree to end it quickly"

I agree with the idea to wrap up quickly.....but the part about seeing what you can do to wrap this up with her??? I do not recommend - uhhh - if you two had this ability to "agree" you would not be in this situation (am I correct?). What is different now? probably nothing. I have seen others and personally experienced much grief thinking this way. It would be nice if possible, but very unlikely. It can put fuel to the fire. The less she knows about what you are doing on a personal note the better.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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GregYohn says on Jul 9, 2008, 11:12:

Hola!

Two times I would have lost without an ATTY, despite thinking I knew the law!

I would advise professional assistance is required!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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aztec says on Jul 9, 2008, 11:32:

Don't try without a lawyer. Will be the best and wisest spent money ever!

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Privatebd says on Jul 9, 2008, 11:41:

CatGirl thanks for the shout out. Nobody has attacked me for my post, either every agrees, or I just confused everyone, lol. R.J. I am very sorry for your problems, but atleast you want have to pay her what AROD's bill will be. Arod;s wife went to Paris and spent $100,000 this weekend. But no matter how upset or down you feel, there is always manana. Like I said earlier, if you hit the bottom, then there is only up.

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droble77 says on Jul 9, 2008, 11:42:

Ditto on what Greg said. Lots of people here saying avoid talking to a lawyer, I don't think that's wise. It's true they have their own interests but a good lawyer can advise you in ways no PBHer can. They've helped hundreds, maybe thousands of clients in their career; they KNOW the law intimately, that's their job, they know how to make the system work for you. The trick is finding a good one. Yeah, we all know the jokes about lawyers, but when you're in trouble, you're still going to want a good one, right? If you feel pressured to make decisions by your lawyer, that's obviously a warning sign he/she is not in it for you, but otherwise it should be okay.

What you need right now is solid advice from a trained experienced PROFESSIONAL, not advice from the internet based on bias and personal experiences that may not apply to your situation AT ALL. . . !

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miamimike says on Jul 9, 2008, 11:50:

RJ--Sorry to hear of your predictament! Is your house in joint title with her or only in your name? Under Florida law, where you and I live, if you payed for this house(or put down the downpayment to buy it) with MONEY you accumulated prior to having married her, she is NOT entitled to any of it, none of this 50-50 BS. If its in joint title with her during the marriage, she may be in line for 50% of the Proceeds when you sell it, but NOT any of the money put down as a Deposit. Same for any money/stocks/investments you have with her made after the marriage! . If that is the case with the House(joint title), don't sell and drag it out for years and wear her down. I know this from good fact having went thru the Divorce process in 91' to a woman from out of country who never had her Conditional status removed from her residency. Back then I wrote to anyone who would listen, ICE, my Senator, Congressman. She accepted a Voluntary deportation as her next step was detention in the Infamous Miami Krome Detention center, not far from where you used to live in Homestead. I also cancelled all credit cards in joint account with her immediately. I notified the US Postal system via Registered mail to show she was not living at my residence.Big Help! Your marriage, length of duration(12-20 months), is about Par for the course from the many cases I have seen here in Florida. And all the Colombiana Divorcees end up down here in Miami, sooner or later! My Buddy divorced his Colombian wife after 13 months, he flipped her $5G to get rid of her and she (money minded as she was)took the $$ and left and signed the divorce papers uncontested. Big Mistake on her part, he was a millionaire a few times over. $5G was a cheap price in his opinion, to rid himself of a Major Headache. This may be a route for you to take if you can afford it, a few G's to buy her freedom. If she has no $$, good chance she will take it! Good Luck and stay vigilant, doesn't hurt at all NOW to go to a Good Divorce attorney for a Consultation. Knowledge is power and never more true in a Divorce...I know, I legally walked in your Shoes a few years back,,,

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 12:12:

We share no joint accounts, she is not on my house loan, I built the house years before meeting her. And pretty much every asset I have, I obtained prior to our marriage. So it is good to know that she can't get at any of that.

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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scumbuster says on Jul 9, 2008, 12:15:

Sounds like your biggest hastle may be getting her to sign the divorce papers then. Otherwise it could be a long time to get it finalized. If she is broke make her a cash offer to sign the papers and get this crap behind you.

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Brians says on Jul 9, 2008, 12:20:

I believe RJ needs an attorney BUT she should not know about it. Based on reading RJ for awhile I don't think there is a major asset claim. However rights she has during divorce can garnish wages. This could cost a pretty penny if she is not working and once again not knowing the state or income situation I will not venture to guess.

I was married and divorced 15 years ago and before I had any assets.APL in my state cost me $75,000 because my wife only made minimum amounts she was entitled to a non-deductable alimony payment until we finalized the divorce. She could hold out 2 years before signing the papers before I could proceed without her consent. We were married a couple months and there was no dispute over assets. She went to a lawyer and found out what she was entitled to which she got in the end. $75,000 in hindsight saved me a lot of money rather than sticking in a mistake of a marriage and then going through asset splits.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 9, 2008, 13:25:

unfortunately, having been in divorce court 6 times, my feelings towards attorneys is at a real low. sure theyre a source of info, but the blood suckers are unscruplous unless theyre your brother or father.

i do indeed wish you strength and calm while you deal with this robert. and i hope you and the soon to be ex can somehow maintain some measure of amicability. it always really helps. good luck and fare well. douglas

dwmte

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John Milton says on Jul 9, 2008, 13:58:

RJ- Sorry to hear about your situation. I don’t post on here too much but I do read a lot of the posts here and often agreed with your line of thinking. I hope this all works out for you but just make sure it is what you want. I am sure you married her believing she was the one for you and you might want to reflect on that. I don’t know what happened and maybe there is no going back but just make that the bridge is actually burned. I always viewed your love story success and maybe for my own sanity I wanted it to be for you. Maybe what you married is still there and is just covered up by whatever circumstances brought you to this. If I am completely off base here I apologize and like others here would say always remember cooler minds prevail. Best wishes to you and if she turns out not to be the one then you are just one more closer to finding her.

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 9, 2008, 17:10:

So, if my house is worth, say - $50,000 LESS than what it would have appraised for a year ago, I could actually say she owes me $25,000? jajajaja

I was trying to be funny, but I might be on to something ....

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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CatGirl says on Jul 9, 2008, 18:51:

RJ , it's good you can keep up your sense of humor ;)

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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lanegrapaisa says on Jul 9, 2008, 18:53:

I hate to say this, but I'm kinda grateful that all I have is a broken heart and not a broken marriage. I think I'll go with my current goal of staying away from all that "love" thing for a very long time. My heart (or what's left of it) goes out to all of you. Aguardiente and Tequila pa' esta mesa! who's with me?

oh that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear

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Philly says on Jul 9, 2008, 18:56:

Actually, my wife does not want to move to the States. I am the one forcing the issue. I just can not save any money here. I guess the real test will be once we get there.

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CatGirl says on Jul 9, 2008, 19:04:

lanegrappaisa: Hola - I can empahisize with your idea, but in truth - you don't really get to pick and choose who you fall in love with. Many times it happens when you are not looking for it or when you least expect it. So staying away from it is a funny thought for me these days......it is like the Borg, resistance is futile, jejeje

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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lanegrapaisa says on Jul 9, 2008, 19:24:

lol, good point CatGirl,

oh that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear

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MaFe says on Jul 9, 2008, 19:48:

Private...I agree with you..


lanegrapaisa..I think you are right...better to have a broken heart that can recover instead of a broken marriage! Animo, todo pasa por una razon and your love will come by!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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lanegrapaisa says on Jul 9, 2008, 20:58:

PBH: lol, thanks, photoshop is great isn't it?

MaFe: I know everything happens for a reason I just wish I could get to the moral of my story already. thanks for the kind words.

oh that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear

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christobeldawg says on Jul 9, 2008, 21:39:

very cute photo lg

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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lanegrapaisa says on Jul 10, 2008, 17:34:

thanks C, I changed the one I had before, lest I be judged by the way I look, :)

oh that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear

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Plato says on Jul 10, 2008, 17:55:

Damn Robert! I just came across this thread. I'm really sorry! Shit!

I know about divorce; however, my former wife is Dominican, not Colombian.

I spent 4.5 years in a Kramer vs Kramer style divorce. We have a beautiful 16-year old daughter who now lives with me and my current wife and our two other children.

Brians gave you excellent information on how laws favor women - and for good reason. Your case is an exception, as was mine, to the rule.

Robert, divorce ssuuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkssss ass man !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Years after my ordeal, I felt a whole lot better not being married to the former Mrs. Plato. The silver lining was that I found my current wife a few years later. 10 years of marriage going strong! I'm sure you'll meet up with your special other half after this.

Take care brother,

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 10, 2008, 19:22:

Thanks Plato, but finding another one isn't even a thought .... unless Travelingirl is available;?

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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Plato says on Jul 10, 2008, 20:22:

Robert,

My point was that in time, it may happen. I know it's the furthest thing from your mind now.

Cheers mate,

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 10, 2008, 20:32:

I gotcha Plato.

So TG, you out there?

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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christobeldawg says on Jul 10, 2008, 20:35:

good to see, while you are saying never again, you are already throwing out some feelers. good sign.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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Plato says on Jul 10, 2008, 20:39:

TG is both hot and brilliant. A rare combination.

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Plato says on Jul 10, 2008, 20:40:

Wassup Dawg? My man!

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 10, 2008, 20:59:

Don't mess with my chick Plato ... (smiley face intended)

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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christobeldawg says on Jul 10, 2008, 21:08:

TG is both hot and brilliant. A rare combination.

Plato

That should lure her in soon. jaja

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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billyb says on Jul 10, 2008, 21:14:

Maybe she hacked plato's profile and is posting as him???

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MaFe says on Jul 10, 2008, 21:23:

I have heard this story over and over with various nationalities. Men- I just want to tell you all that take your time getting to know your novia.
Women are not what they appear to be, we are smart creatures and know how to be sweet, charming, bla bla...

Todo lo que brilla no es oro!

I have a friend that went to something similar with a Colombian- he is Colombian raised here and she screwed him over BIG time.
My best friend is a divorce attorney...the cases that he sees...mostly Latinas leaving their gringos once the green card arrive...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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CatGirl says on Jul 10, 2008, 21:40:

MaFe - good honest feedback, as always ;)

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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travelingirl says on Jul 10, 2008, 22:06:

HAHAHA! I just saw the comments. I needed that laugh tonight.... Billy caught me though. I hacked into Plato's account. Nothing gets by Billy!

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CatGirl says on Jul 10, 2008, 22:08:

TG - hola Amiga!

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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travelingirl says on Jul 10, 2008, 22:10:

hey :)

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christobeldawg says on Jul 10, 2008, 22:34:

see, I knew that would lure her in, it's like fishing in a fish bowl, though she should be getting her beauty sleep by now.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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travelingirl says on Jul 10, 2008, 22:42:

Whatevs. I hadn't been on PBH all day and was about to get ready for bed but thought I'd see if there was anything new going on here. mmhmm

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christobeldawg says on Jul 10, 2008, 22:52:

uh oh she is still awake

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

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dwmte7 says on Jul 11, 2008, 06:44:

damn, thought the wake would be over and dear robert would be up and around and busy with a new life and givin the finger to the past. sooooooooooon

dwmte

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kernow62 says on Jul 11, 2008, 10:37:

How about we try this same post and change it to those who are happily married after a few years who met through an agency? I once read that these marriages are actually more successful than when the couple meet without the agency involvement. I am still skeptical though.

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deathnova says on Jul 11, 2008, 13:17:

I'd be skeptical.

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