PBH Dating style

DanielPaisa says on Oct 4, 2006, 12:09:

jajaja, kat es que estos locos no entienden lo de la papaya...

y eso que deberia ser la primera guia para los que entran al sitio...
con las colombianas, papaya ponida... papaya partida

Daniel, el Paisa

Daniel, el Paisa

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Colombiche says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:10:

Kat
5) I am 60 yr old guy from the state of ________, I look a lot like Michael Moore but without the full head of hair.
On one of my trips, I met a 17 yr old girl from _______ ,Colombia who happens to look a lot like a blossoming sophia Vergara. I think she loves me because she told my translator that my beergut drives her mad with desire. She also thinks my bald spot is sexy, she has this loving pet name for me - "Calvo HP" (the translator tells me that means well hung stud).
One day I walked in and I found her kissing another guy, but she told my translator the guy was a doctor who makes housecalls and he was just checking her amigdalas (tonsils?).

Anyway, I am thinking of marrying her, I know she loves me. What do you guys think?

Ps: where in Colombia can I buy Viagra wholesale?

Thanks PBH advisors!

Sincerely,

______ ________

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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DanielPaisa says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:11:

i think that a relation between a colombiana and an america/european it's really difficult, even more if he's blind in love... this girls are fighters and can do anything to "salir adelante"

i don't think it's impossible, but i see so many guys "i met her two monts ago, i went to medellin, and now we're getting married, she's so perfect, she's never mad, she's always cooking and cleaning, she's always trying to look good for me..."

i see that and i think she's using you. Real relationships involve fighting and having different points of view. If everything is tooo damn right, then something must be wrong.

Daniel, el Paisa

Daniel, el Paisa

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goin_south says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:20:

Yeah, Tinto, and I think it might remind us alot of The Gong Show!

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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goin_south says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:21:

with the Unknown Gringo.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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toneloc24 says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:23:

Calvo HP = Well hung stud??? Bahhhh hahahahahahahaha!!!!

Thx CB for today's laugh!!!

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

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goin_south says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:23:

and with Gena, Gena; baillar maquina!

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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famsearch says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:23:

once again, i agree with strobs for my wife and i, it was 2 years of courting before i proposed, another year before the wedding, and now we're going on our second anniversary.
dan

dan

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adrimm says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:23:

7) She wants to have cirugia plastica so she can look better for me, it's not so much money so I'm helping her out.


... omg keep it coming, this is good.

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adrimm says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:27:

Oohh I wonder: This new Oohh

I wonder: This new gringo wedding movie.... (keeping in mind that I know nothing about the plot)

We know it's about a gringo guy loooking to meet the perfect woman, so what if 'the girl" is looking to play him (a la dangerous liasons), but then in true Hollywood cliche style really falls in love with him.

Result is a happy sappy cultural comedy

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DanielPaisa says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:27:

el vivo vive del bobo, dicen please guys, read colombian refranes and traditional quotes... they can really help you understand colombians

Daniel, el Paisa

Daniel, el Paisa

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:28:

Colombiche I think she loves you.. go for it jejeje I bet you make her exciting like if you were brat pitt jejeje


Well there is a film out now I think call GRINGO WEDDING
Tinto we can do one call GRINGO DATING

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Colombiche says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:32:

Kat I know she loves ME, but is she playing Billy Bob?

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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goin_south says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:35:

You ladies are cruel and, another one bites the dust. g - o - n - g !

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 4, 2006, 13:37:

No Colombiche if I were you I trust her translator he is telling the truth. trust me.


Another one " I know she loves me a lot because she doesn't want to come and live in the USA" Eh?????

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 4, 2006, 14:08:

"I don't really mind sending her these 500 dollars a month after all it's for our future together and she does need to learn English, have a high-speed internet and new boobs but she just told me that her tia abuela needs a butt lift and new teeth too...and she asking me to send her 2000 dollars. She's madly in love with me and like all Colombianas, she has these traditional family priorities and values. You just can't help adoring this girl."

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 4, 2006, 14:15:

well, there are a couple possibilities: a) there was another Mr. Gringo before this one b) she was already dancing naked before Mr. Gringo got to know her.

Cheers,
Desi


«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 4, 2006, 15:22:

Kat This is the best topic in a long time.

Another one for the list:

8) I've been married 4 times. First time was to a real bitch gringa. The second time to an asian woman but she was too submissive. I don't really remember the other two. But I want a woman with good family values like they have in Colombia. At least that's what I read on the internet.

Personally, I much prefer the sex-tourists to the marriage tourists. At least they're realistic.

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medellinmike says on Oct 4, 2006, 15:36:

PBH Dating style Come on buddy, did you ever hear,,,,beleive half of what you see and none that you hear.....get serious.....im married to a Colombian for 14 GREAT years,,,,but i met her in the USA, she has dual citizanship and we now live here and there so ....think about what your doing b4 hand,,,,they can get half of whatever you have,,,,here,,,,,maybe there too....depends on where you marry.....otherwise, she has to disapear....
Mike

have a great week

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panthdave says on Oct 4, 2006, 16:17:

This is awesome Oh God Better than Comedy Channel Thanks guys for making my night...

Thanks Kat...

panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

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famsearch says on Oct 4, 2006, 16:27:

even better name for the movie... how about, my big fat colombian wedding?
dan

dan

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Peter (Moderator) says on Oct 4, 2006, 17:26:

"Personally, I much prefer the sex-tourists to the marriage tourists. At least they're realistic."

Hahaha. This is indeed a funny thread :)

Poor but snappy

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billyb says on Oct 4, 2006, 20:29:

Kat, you evil girl, see... what you started? BTW, I'm very impressed how you, Desi & Colombiche hit the nail right on the head. LOL.

BillyB

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oldbongo says on Oct 4, 2006, 22:58:

actually...what's going on here... what's going on here,
is that kat,
everyone elses dream girl,
is trying to lure oldbongo back from amnesia,
and away from la commandante.

kat, you shameless flirt.
you should know better by now.
oldbongo cannot be seduced again.
one of two costenitas would kill him.

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DanielPaisa says on Oct 4, 2006, 23:02:

oooh i wish this forum had karma

+10 to kat

Daniel, el Paisa

Daniel, el Paisa

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famsearch says on Oct 4, 2006, 23:10:

arrgh! roofus said the t word... on the first trip, i was finagled into watching about 3 hours of telenovelas with my wife...
dan

dan

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goin_south says on Oct 5, 2006, 00:05:

I pity the poor soul, but you could include alot of the pbsh from that recent thread entitled 'I guess I did not beat the odds', to further fill in your next episode for this telanovela.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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miamimike says on Oct 5, 2006, 00:55:

One Thing I cannot Understand Are The Cash Remittances! on a monthly basis! Would these guys do this for a woman here in the USA(met over the Internet) where at least could observe daily as to where the money is going??? Of course they wouldn't! What possesses them to do it for a woman they hardly know in a Far Away Land? That Appendage at the End of the neck must not be functioning the way God meant it to is all I can Think!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 5, 2006, 01:26:

galesito this style of dating is not only from that thread this is been going on for years here in PBH

The money situation is just one of the few thing, we can gather so many is we go back to so many poster.

HERE IS THE TITLE OF MY BOOK
“PBH DATING GUIDE FOR DUMMIES�

1)If the girl looks like Angelina Jolie am I at least as good looking as the ugly brother of Brat pit
2)Do I have a good personality? Do people tell me that? (apart from her) Do I have a good sense of humor or my jokes sucks
3)I am not saying Looks is everything but at least compensate it with a good personality have you got that? Really!!! be truthful to yourself
4)try dating somebody at least 13 years younger than you, it doesn't matter if people tell you you look younger for your age! Trust me, 14 years or more than that can bring problems ahead so be prepare.I dont mean it won't work but as the time goes by it will need harder work.
5)Give the relationship time don't rush into a marriage if you have doubts otherwise you will start poisoning it
6)If you hire a private detective then this is a BAD START!!!
7)Stop the money!!!!



FEEL FREE TO ADD SOME MORE!!!


We could do a film call PBH we have to paid Peter for the rights though jejeje



one more but not least " She is 18 I am 45 but she is so mature for her age, we have so many intelectual conversation"

yes sure, I think she is mature for your age!! geezzz


She is the love of my life! I never felt like that before! I would do anything for this woman! jump rivers, kill lion, fight warriors! SHE IS MY COLOMBIANA HERMOSA

she told me to meet her in her home town, if it dangerous? would i get kidnapped? you think she is trying to sell me to the farcs? shall I go?

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gabo4ever says on Oct 5, 2006, 02:10:

kat u forgot to mention " She is 18 I am 45 but she is so mature for her age, we have so many intelectual conversation" ... in my broken spanish and her miserable English!

Y por si se atreven: Watsamatamaracuya?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 5, 2006, 02:48:

LOL gabo, I think everyone is getting things out of its chest ;)

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miamimike says on Oct 5, 2006, 03:04:

She Has A Sick Mother Thats what the Monthly Checks from the USA are needed for,,,LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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goin_south says on Oct 5, 2006, 05:32:

or, that guy, Shawwnnnn He's looking to prevent the losses before they start; 'what are the laws with regards to what she might get if we divorce, if we were married in Panama, or Ecuador? Wasn't he #2? behind God? Elmo will set him straight with regards to being number two ;)

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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elmodefoque says on Oct 5, 2006, 05:43:

Kat, mi reina, what is wrong with tomtom and my way of living? I buy love when is needed, luckily my sex drive has dwindle considerably in the last few years and now I’m content with getting it just once a day. preferably in the morning when I wake up with a doozy.
Not too long ago I was so ecstatic planning my future following in my mentors (tomtom) footstep, brand new apt in Barranquilla with the 42 inch plasma TV , the most modern music system, living room adorned with bottles of Caldas, Old Parr, aguardiente and beer. Mirrors over the bed, hidden cameras recording all the nightly activities and visits from my horny gringo buddies and their hookers/pre-pagos. Wild sex orgies including domesticated farm animals and then, my young cachaca wife shows up at my door with all her belongings. She left Miami cus she missed me too damn much and heard of my perverted trip to Barranquilla. In a jealous rage, quit her job down there and got one here in NYC, now she’s back with me. Had no idea I was such an adorable modefoque. This is where I need your help, how does one go about getting rid of a young, jealous colombiana? I still love her but I can’t live with her or any broad for that matter, I wanna be just like tomtom.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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podborski says on Oct 5, 2006, 07:07:

"I know she loves me because she introduces me to all her friends and relatives. Every time we go to an expensive restaurant she brings 4 or 5 of them along."

Not that this has been my personal experience of course, jejeje

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podborski says on Oct 5, 2006, 07:45:

You don't find them, DG, they find you Imagine you are a gringo visiting Colombia for a few weeks. Even if your spanish is good, the first people you will meet will be the tigers, the ones who wave at you from the next table at OMA or the BBC, or they send you notes with their phone numbers. Or they just march up and give you a line that even I wouldn't use, like "what's a handsome guy like you doing all alone?"

What's a lonely single guy gonna do? Me, I say, "Let the games begin!", and reach for my wallet.

It's definitely more expensive than going to a brothel, by far, but much more fun.

Most respectable Colombianas (and I think the vast majority fall into this category) won't waste their time with a guy who's on a 2 week vacation, it seems to me.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 5, 2006, 08:22:

Elmo there is nothing wrong with you or Tomtom style of dating, what i said is if you don't trust the girl 100% then just play the field like you two do.;)

Oldbongo you know you own my favourite piggy ;)

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 5, 2006, 09:46:

Colombiche.....those 50 year old's You know, the Michael Moore type, are sure that hot Colombian women just can't see them as they are...perhaps it's a case of vision problems that have not been corrected. Yet, in the end, these guys are sure they love them for what/who they are. Yea sure.

You did not know that?

Well, Kat and Colombiche, let me tell you something....and I am sure about this. These men are NOT deluding themselves into thinking that they these women love them. They may come off to you ladies that they are not aware of reality, but they most certainly are. They DO NOT need to do a reality check. Look, in most cases, if they were smart enough to aquire that kind of wealth, they are smart enough to realize what kind of relationship they are having. To them, what difference does it make what you guys or anyone else thinks about their relationship. The one thing that they do know is that at the end of the day, when they come home from work, they have some Colombian hottie waiting at the door to greet them, and it is far less likely that they would find an American of similar age and beauty.

That's just the reality of things.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 5, 2006, 10:18:

And then if they know that G5, Then they should STOP COMPLANINING AND WINGGING if they "know" what they are getting into so deal with it!!


according to here the only thing that the colombianita hottie is waiting is for his cheque.jijij.

And the thing that I am most going on about is that if they don't trust the woman of his dream why the hell he wants to get marry then?????


To tell you the truth G5 i don't think they are smart enough, smart the colombianita :)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 5, 2006, 10:28:

Huh? G5 wrote "Look, in most cases, if they were smart enough to aquire that kind of wealth, they are smart enough to realize what kind of relationship they are having."

I never really got the impression that any of the guys making those kind of posts are actually WEALTHY. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me a lot of the guys posting here about their visits to see their "fiance" are worried about the saving for price of a plane ticket or a decent hotel, so I'd guess most of them are middle class at most. That's enough to pass for "rich" in Colombia for a little while, but it's also an explanation of why so many Colombianas find themselves regretful when their "rich" gringo takes them home to his double-wide in East Catfisholler, South Carolina.

Rich guys don't have to travel all the way to find their gold-diggers.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 5, 2006, 10:33:

"they have some Colombian hottie waiting at the door to greet them," (Gomezman)....you mean just like a golden retriever, wagging her tail?

Hmmmm....reading these stories here the only thing they have waiting for them at the door in the end of a long work day is the telephone, internet, Servientrega, DHL etc. bill... or maybe a note from the Colombianita telling him that she's run off with a neighbor.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 5, 2006, 10:37:

Or the typical Colombiana reaction " I have been here all day on my own, not talking to anybody, my tongue is getting oxidated, I miss my family, I want to go back * throw flower vase at him* i hate you, i don't love, you too old for me, I'ant got no friends, I hate the USA and Bush. TAKE ME HOMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEE

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elmodefoque says on Oct 5, 2006, 10:48:

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over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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miamimike says on Oct 5, 2006, 10:52:

HollyWood I agree with you, If you have to scrimp for an Airline Ticket $100 cheaper your pockets aren't too deep to start with. LOL Same with the Hotels! I have this friend that is in the Millionaire class who goes to Col and he does pinch the penny until he gets Blood! He's the rare exception!! He thinks if the Lady orders a $5 Meal she is over the top and has ordered the most expensive meal on the menu. A Lady I know from Bogota went to visit a guy(she met in one of the Agencies) in Arkansas who portrayed he was a Millionaire LOL After she arrived in Ark she found out He lived in a Broken down Duplex strata one style and when she went inside she saw dirty T-shirts, Dogs running around, Underwear and SOx hanging from chairs, bedposts everywhere.Dirty dishes all over,it was a nightmare. He put her to work next day in his Roofing Business, carting 2 x4's up a ladder to the roof he was working on! She freaked out and went to a Spanish Family in the neighborhood who took her to the Airport in a few days so she could get back to Bogota. Talk about a nightmare. One has to be careful! LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 5, 2006, 12:17:

wow what a dream for a young colombianita...my new life in USA, living in a dump and maidin' for my pig of a hubby....

On a serious note; I agree with both Holly and Miami; that has been my impression too. Not many of the wife prospectors are independently wealthy at all; some may even be disabled, unemployed, have serious economical obligations like alimonies, child support etc. in the States and I 'd be surprised if they were totally straight about their situation with their brides to be in Colombia. It's nothing shameful to be poor, have economical hardships, struggle; that's normal and part of life: Misrepresent your economical situation in order to make yourself attractive as a hubby candidate is not cool, however.

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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morphus says on Oct 5, 2006, 12:37:

My girlfriend in Medellin already knows i'm poor. I even told her I might be homeless soon and she is still interested. She saw the street I live on while we were watching a Leonardo Decaprio movie. They filmed scenes from the movie on my street. She laughed and said "you're poor".

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 5, 2006, 12:48:

I'm glad to know I still have it. The G5 makes one post, and people respond. lightening rod of controversy.

Anyway, Kat, you're right. They should stop complaining. You cannot have it both ways. If you know that these girls are in it for the $$, then when they get extra greedy, you should realize that you set yourself up for it.

Hollywood, You are also right. Maybe they are not so rich, but they just want to give poor Colombianas that they are. And your comment about rich guys not having to travel that far.....well yes they do, because rich is a relative term. While they may be just regular guys here in the US, in Colombia, they are quite well off

Desi....just like a golden retriever? Hmmmmm. Maybe, but I think more like a "Great Dame"....uh, I mean "Dane"

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Colombiche says on Oct 5, 2006, 13:03:

Gomezman... The reason why the hot colombiana appears to be waiting by the door is probably because she is holding it shut while her hot young boyfriend sneaks out your bedroom window.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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goin_south says on Oct 5, 2006, 13:09:

If one of these broke my heart I would not belabor the lost love so long, and simply say, 'next! por favor'!
If Colombia is the veritable and fertile ground that all here seem to proclaim, then why cry in your cerveza for too long? Around the next corner is likely perhaps the dream you thought you had lost.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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Gomezman5 says on Oct 5, 2006, 13:26:

Na.....I don't think so Colombiche There aren't any Colombianas in my life. So there cannot be any hot young boyfriends sneaking out any windows. BTW, there is no way, no how that anybody could be sneaking out any windows where I live...unless they have wings and can fly like a bird. Even a parachute would not help. I'm too high for them to jump and survive, but too low for a parachute to be of any use to them......

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Colombiche says on Oct 5, 2006, 13:35:

I wasn't saying YOU specifically, I was just painting a general scenario.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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famsearch says on Oct 5, 2006, 16:01:

Imagine you are a gringo visiting Colombia for a few weeks. Even if your spanish is good, the first people you will meet will be the tigers, the ones who wave at you from the next table at OMA or the BBC, or they send you notes with their phone numbers. Or they just march up and give you a line that even I wouldn't use, like "what's a handsome guy like you doing all alone?", little do you know, you have just entered, the colombiana zone...
dan

dan

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miamimike says on Oct 5, 2006, 20:03:

Desi, Another One I heard about Was An Older American 75Yr Old who was in a Wheelchair. He was from Orlando and went to Bogota to meet a girl thru one of the AGencies. It was a real hardship for him as the streets and Buildings are not wheelchair friendly.They Met, He did the Fiancee Visa Deal and brought her to Orlando, Florida where they subsequently married and after cleaning out his Bank Account of $80,000, she bailed on him after a a few months, never to be seen again(at least not in orlando). She's down here in Miami, of that I am sure! When the Colombianas Bail on the Esposas, they end up down here in Miami sooner or later. LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Lostgringo says on Oct 5, 2006, 22:28:

It doesn't just happen in Colombia check this poor loser out http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=83815 Some say the busiest place in Pattaya is Western Express where all the prostitutes (bar girls) line up to receive money from their boyfriends.

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

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morphus says on Oct 6, 2006, 01:05:

This song is dedicated to all the guys that want to bring a women back from an exotic location:

TALES OF BRAVE ULYSSES
by Eric Clapton and Martin Sharp

[Disraeli Gears:]
You thought the leaden winter would bring you down forever,
But you rode upon a steamer to the violence of the sun.
And the colours of the sea bind your eyes with trembling mermaids,
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses,
How his naked ears were tortured by the sirens sweetly singing,
For the sparkling waves are calling you to kiss their white laced lips.
And you see a girl's brown body dancing through the turquoise,
And her footprints make you follow where the sky loves the sea.
And when your fingers find her, she drowns you in her body,
Carving deep blue ripples in the tissues of your mind.
The tiny purple fishes run laughing through your fingers,
And you want to take her with you to the hard land of the winter.
Her name is Aphrodite and she rides a crimson shell,
And you know you cannot leave her for you touched the distant sands
With tales of brave Ulysses, how his naked ears were tortured
By the sirens sweetly singing.
The tiny purple fishes run lauging through your fingers,
And you want to take her with you to the hard land of the winter.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 6, 2006, 01:10:

DG PBH is populated by Gringos so we are hearing their stories, there have been few Canadians though, I hardly hear anythning about a British or French or I talian, well with the Italians I understand they said they are Good lovers ;)


But maybe if there is a PBH Thailand or Filipine, then we will hear a lot about the British.

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morphus says on Oct 6, 2006, 01:20:

European guys are smarter than the average American guy. They just have sex with the girls, forget them and go back to their countries.

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miamimike says on Oct 6, 2006, 01:54:

Kat, Here is one for the Dominican Republic This is a pretty interesting site as it deals with all facets of Life and Business in the DR. Men and Women who have Novios(as)in the DR run into the same probelm as in Colombia but in addition they have an unusual concept known as the "Sanky". A Sanky is a male Hospitality worker who works at the Hotel Resorts and hustles the american and Canadian Girls/women who Vacation there. He attempts to get money out of them usually via the monthly money order system like in colombia and eventually, a Green Card. My neighbor here in my condo bldg was "Sankied" on Vacation by a young handsome Dominicano 15 years younger then her and after he got his Green Card, he left her(after he got her pregnant and left her with the Kid.This was a sad case but it is widespread in the DR. The AMerican and Canadian Women hate it when their Boyfriends are referred to as Sankys. The Website is: www.dri.com then go to the message boards and open this and click on Sanky 101 for a good laugh.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Robert Jorge says on Oct 6, 2006, 01:56:

Ya Morphus, us US guys fall in love. I'll admit it. Maybe your right that the Europeans can and do, "love 'em and leave 'em." Personally, I just couldn't do it. I fell for her. I wouldn't call the European guys smarter, but maybe more cold and world-wise. And before I am bashed for saying this, my parents come from the old countries, but I was born and raised in the US.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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miamimike says on Oct 6, 2006, 03:25:

Roofus, That's a Nice website(dr1.com) isn't it? Very comprehensive and a good format,,,BTW, the American guys have their problems with the Dominican Women also as you can see,,LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 6, 2006, 05:14:

Miamimike I can't get into the page were is the message board.

Roofus you do still believe in Santa don't yahh..;)

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elmodefoque says on Oct 6, 2006, 05:53:

Not that those European guys are any smarter than USA guys. Europeans are able to just pork them and leave them because MOST colombianas would rather stay in Colombia than live en Europe. You tell a hot, fine happy Colombiana, I’m taking your ass to a dark, damped, cold flat in London or Italy or Romania, and her freaking answer is gonna be HELLL NOOOO!!
But when they hear USA their ears pirk up.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 6, 2006, 06:04:

On the serious note!! I think is because not many Europeans travel to Colombia, not long ago I saw an article in el tiempo about the amount of foreigners that visIT Colombia from 2005/2006 and the majority were, venezuelan, Americans, canadians and can't remembered the other countries but i think were from latinoamerica.

What happen is that for you Americans, latinoamerica is a cheap destination, like for the British , Europe or thailand, or India are cheap so they travel there and is a shorter distance too, and many British go to the USA for holidays, to go to New york or Orlando it's very cheap.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 6, 2006, 08:39:

I remembered seeing this youngist Canadian woman in Cartagena, she was as white as a cotton bud and her hair as yellow as the sun, she was hanging around hand in hand with this very young black but very black guy, you can see he was from the palenque area and was offering his services, when I asked the other street vendor, they said he was very sought after by this canadians women.


I don't know if he is still around but he was very popular, he was tall, skinny and he used to wear sleeveles strappy t-shirt.

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miamimike says on Oct 6, 2006, 11:12:

Kat, type DR1.com into your browser, go to the message boards after the web site appears and on the left side, open the message boards and scroll down to the Sankys 101 heading and open it.Should work

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 6, 2006, 12:41:

Euros Wasn't it an Italian guy who went to Giradot and was killed after being kidnapped by two hookers to whom he was bragging about how rich he was? The paracos were somehow involved, too?

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oldbongo says on Oct 6, 2006, 13:15:

ok.kat.. if your so smart, just 'splain this away,...

that blonde canadiensa was simply the karmic yin
to oldbongos yang for his two young palenqueras.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 6, 2006, 13:21:

yes, hollywood and if I'm not totally wrong there were two Italians that got themselves murdered in Colombia within a year.

I think it's total BS that Europeans don't fall into this same trap; it's just that proportionally we're much less and then again...hmmm.....we're maybe a little less naive(?) Yet I know many European guys who have lost their hearts to lovely Colombianitas, but I know a lot less stories of them being conned...

And Elmo, you are so totally wrong: to every Colombian their FIRST CHOICE would be to be able to live in Europe, in Spain, in England, in France, almost anywhere here.

Cheers,
Desi


«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 6, 2006, 13:28:

As they said in Colombia Desi

The poor class in Colombia dream to go to Mexico
The Middle class to go to the USA
The rich to Europe

Oldbongo they were yin and yang

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oldbongo says on Oct 6, 2006, 13:39:

bueno... all is well in the universe.

gotta go excersise porky.

so long, alice

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Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 6, 2006, 20:30:

First choice Desi, I always thought the first choice of every Colombian would be to live in the USA, but the version of which only exists inside their television sets.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Oct 7, 2006, 00:44:

Holly, I thought so too before. Now, the last time I was there everybody wanted to go to Europe, especially Spain. But that TV-USA sounds pretty credible too; I fell for that myself once long ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

Cheers,
Desi

«Sé que los seres humanos y los peces podrán coexistir en paz». ( George W. Bush, Saginaw 29-09-00)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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miamimike says on Oct 7, 2006, 02:09:

Lot Of Advantages For a Colombian Going To Spain To Live over the USA. Lets say if they are a Professional such as a Doctor, Nurse, Lawyer ect they, Number 1, won't have the langauge barrier. A Big Problem if they(col) come here to the USA without a Technical commnand of English. Next, in the case of the above mentioned Professionals, they will be working in their Professions(in spain) a lot lot faster as many of their Col University courses transfer 1:1 across the Board in SPain, whereas in many cases here in the USA, its a long drawn out process(and very expensive) in the best case scenario. Docs, Nurses and Lawyers from Col and Cuba, Argentina all related this to me so its not hearsay. In Miami where I live, I personally have witnessed the long process when Medical Professionals attempted to Re-Validate their Coursework and Degree here in the USA. Then they have the State Boards(in english) to sit for in their state of residence. The only Spanish Nationality group who gets a break are the Cubans and its a huge one but they still have the langauge barrier.

Next is the National Healthcare system which Spain offers for all their citizens-its a real decent one in Spain where Hopsital, Surgery, Medications ect are offered and at very affordable rates. Compare that to here in the USA, they have NONE(universal coverage) and if they attempt to buy Private Blue Cross/Shield, its prohibitevely expensive. Most who come here go without insurance, unless you are one of a few who marry an AMerican and get insurance thru his policy. A friend from Peru took Ill here in Miami and was hospitalized for 2 weeks in South Miami-she now has a $45,000 Bill to pay off-she had NO health Insurance.

Public Transportation-unless you live in a Major City like New York, public transporation is for the most part, non existent. Here in Miami, unless you live on a Main Line like Biscayne Blvd forget it! Even on Biscayne Blvd where buses run more often then normal, after 6 pm they cut the hours and buses run once an hour. Week-ends the same, short service. If you need to work it is hard to avoid the expense of owning a car, our public transportation simply does not give you the option. In Spain, this is not a problem, good transportation(public) crisscrosses the country and you don't need a Car. They have lots of Buses and trains everywhere. Big Bonus.BIG Savings with High Gas and Insurance costs!

Culture Shock--In Spain, a lot of similarities to the Life in Colombia, the acclimation period is much much shorter in Spain and no shock as one(colombian) would find her in the USA. Head for Spain, its not even a close decision! Not even close,,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 7, 2006, 03:01:

miamimike, but if i decioded miamimike, but if i decided to move to Spain for example I will choose to live in the south of Spain, or a city like Barcelona, instead of Madrid, the last option would be the north near Bilbao, the Vasc area, they are more Europeans, bit cold and their Spanish is more difficult to understand, they Speak Vasc too. The People from the south is more like Colombians and friendlier and the area reminds me more of Colombia too, the north area reminds me more of France.

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miamimike says on Oct 7, 2006, 04:38:

Kat Have you visited Spain Often? Sounds like you know the Area? I have Friends (cubanos)who live in Madrid and they have invited me their for Vacation. They love it! When the family left Cuba in the time of Mariel(early 80s)they went to Madrid first and even though they had a very nice life in Madrid with many oppurtunities, the Family wanted to go to Miami.All left except for this friend of mine(he was the oldest brother) Him and his Wife decided to stay in Madrid and he made the Smartest Decision of the whole family as it turned out. Now he is a Supervisor for UPS Delivery, has a nice home in Madrid and also a Beach Home near Costa del Sol. He was able to progress without a Langauge Barrier. In Contrast, the other Brothers who moved to Miami are still stuck in Minimum Wage type jobs, hardly speak English ect. They all told me in retrospect if they had to make the Choice again, they would have stayed in Madrid like their brother did. They all regret the move to the USA! I cannot understand for the Life of me why all the Cubans, Colombians ect that want to come to the USA want to live in Miami,,,,For what--High real estate prices, low wages, massive traffic jams, ect?

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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aztec says on Oct 7, 2006, 05:54:

Kat1... ...my wife and I didn't like Southern Spain at all. Loved other areas. With the open borders of the EU, Southern Spain(the Coast) has been overrun by transplants from England and Germany.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 7, 2006, 07:55:

Spain An interesting thing is that I have some Colombian friends who moved to Madrid and felt a huge culture shock compared to the US. Part of that might be that they had lived in US previously. But despite the language similarity, they found Madrid culturally more different from Colombia than California where they had lived in the US.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 7, 2006, 11:26:

Aztec, yes I agree there is lots of British and Germans in Spain, that why to buy a house there is very expensive. Spain is been invaded by them

I find Madrid it's a very European city very beautiful too but I find people from Barcelona friendlier that the Madrilenos if I have to choose I rather live in Barcelona, Sevilla or Malaga.

miamimike I usually go to Spain every year.


Spain is having quite a big problem at the moment with all of those illegal Africans.

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billyb says on Oct 7, 2006, 14:47:

If you are stupid and lazy.... you are going to be poor, no matter where you go. But if you're smart and willing to work hard, the US by far offers the best opportunities. Unemployemnt in Europe (aside of the UK & Ireland)is in the 10% range (just slightly better than Colombia) in the US it's 4.6% right now. In the last 5 years the US economy grew by the size of the total of China's economy. Everybody has anecdotal evidence of somebody that made it as an immigrant in Europe, but the statistical evidence is to contrary.

BillyB

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morphus says on Oct 7, 2006, 15:51:

Now that I think of it, the Euro guys are just as dumb as us American guys. I remember when I used to go to Cuba, the Italians, Spaniards and the Germans were sought after by the Cubanas because they were known for marrying them quick and taking them to Europe. The Cubanas would drain their money and dump them as soon as they made it to Europe. There are actually a few Cubanas that have returned to Cuba after becoming bored in Europe. That never happens when they come to the U.S.

A girl I know in Medellin has an a cousin that married a rich German guy and went to live with him in Germany. He treats her like a queen. He buys her anything she wants and even serves her breakest while she is in bed. Yet, she complains to her family that she is not happy and wants to return to Colombia. Whenever she visits Colombia, she goes to see her ex-boyfriend that just got out of prison and is unemployed. She wants to get back with him.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 7, 2006, 17:09:

If you comming to the UK and think you are going to make big bucks forget it, this place it's very expensive!!!

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miamimike says on Oct 7, 2006, 21:04:

I'll stick by my Post For Professional Class Colombians and that is if they want to get into their Professions fast, Spain is the place to go! No Langauge Barrier for starters, not much cultural shock and a much much easier time in Re-Validating their Coursework and Degrees from colombia. How would this process be faster here in the USA then in spain?? This simply is NOT going to happen here in The USA in a fast time. Many times in fact here in the USA they have to repeat courses that the US State Boards will not accept. This happens a lot! Worse the Medical or Legal courses are taught in English at the Technical level. ANother strike unless the person has an EXTREMELY good command of English. Best case scenario, long years in getting their licenses. I have seen many get discouraged, run out of Money and give up; they wind up cleaning houses or baby sitting!

Health Insurance-In most large Metro areas, any kind of Private Health insurance policy will cost at least $600 monthly for a Bare Bone Policy! How many Colombians you know have that kind Money?? I don't know many for sure and I know quite a few in Miami! Remember, here in Miami-Dade County alone, over 600,000 residents(us citizens, residents and Immigrants) have NO Insurance due to the High monthly Cost!

How many Areas have good Public transportation outside of NYC, LA, DC ect. Thats why you see so many Immigrants here in the Miami Area driving old junky cars with barebone PPD Insurance. At least if they live in NYC, they have the extensive Subway, Ferry and Bus system! I can't see how a Professional Colombian would be better here then in Spain! My .02 !! A Lady I pay to clean my Condo(peru)travels 2 hours each way by Bus to get here. BTW I pay her the Rate she asks so no slave labor. In her home country, she was a Agricutural Engineer,,,,Here a House Cleaner for 9 years,, Sad,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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miamimike says on Oct 7, 2006, 21:17:

On this point BillyB,,, "In the last 5 years the US economy grew by the size of the total of China's economy. Everybody has anecdotal evidence of somebody that made it as an immigrant in Europe, but the statistical evidence is to contrary."
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Many of these New Jobs are NOT available to People WITHOUT a Good Command of English and US Residency! Not to mention you have to be a Legal Resident to apply for these Jobs so that excludes many Latin American Immigrants from the get-go. As each day passes, this Employment law gets tightened and less employers are hiring out of status(illegal)Immigrants! Here in Miami Dade there are rumored to be around (conservative estimate) 200,000 Immigrants Out Of Status(illegal)! A lot of these Jobs created were the Burger Flipper/Walmart/Service type minimum wage jobs with NO insurance, future or other Benefits. Again, if you are one of the few professional Latins who has a GOOD command of English and goes thru the Great Expense of Getting their US Licenses, in a few health care occupations, you can find oppurtunity. This is not the case for many Immigrants! Fact is many of the Good Jobs have left our shores and more leaving daily (due to unfair Chinese Imports flooding our shores) the latest being General Motors, who are soon closing like 15-20 Auto plants it was announced 2 weeks ago. This new economy is not creating jobs like the ones being lost. No way,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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adrimm says on Oct 7, 2006, 23:27:

Interesting While I agree that Colombians may find it easier to adjust in Spain, I think that success there is largely limited to the proffessional class. There is discrimination in Spain against Latin Americans, and the sentiment isn't helped by highly publicized cases of crimes done by illegal immigrants or immigrant gangs (latin american and morrocan). Incidentally, Portugal is also "struggling" with north african immigrants.

While I was travelling in Spain I had a chance to see how it was first-hand... and yes I'm something-ethnic-but-unidentifiable looking. I was chatting (in Spanish) with some people on the train going from Barcelona to Madrid. I mentioned I was from Canada and they were very friendly, asking all sorts of things about my travels, etc... then my language skills came up and the second they discovered my mother was originally from Colombia eyebrows rose and they said "oh"... end of conversation. So I turned around and chatted with a nice Scottish couple for the rest of the evening (in English). The whole language thing came up a number of times, but thankfully few other people I met reacted like the rude people from the train.

Miamimike, that is the cost of the international market - and China isn't really in the autogame yet....so far it is Japan (Toyota) and the Korean cars, and that's without the European cars being in the market too. By the time China and India seriously get into the autogame the cost of fuel will be driven so high by demand that most anyone won't be driving. They will need 8 x the amt of fuel that the US does if they copy North American development patterns and become as car-centric as we are.

I don't know how they do it, but I was impressed that in Europe so much more industry is homegrown - ie very easy to find clothes in Spain that were made in Spain. Anyone know how that works over there?

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miamimike says on Oct 8, 2006, 00:01:

Adrimm,In my OP, I stated Profesional Class Colombians would have an easier time of making a sucessful Transition in Spain and the reasons are obvious as the Sunrise. Yes, they do experience some discrimination but again, so did Irish, German,Jewish,African, Italian, Polish, Russian ect Professional(and non professional I will add)Immigrants experience the same here in the USA when the first waves came over from Europe so we cannot say it didn't happen here also in the late 18th to 19th Centuries. Fact of the matter it(discrimination) is still happening here in the USA Today--ask any Professional Class Haitian or Latino if they haven't experienced Racism and see what their answer is, so I'm not surprised at all that you see this in Spain. At least in Spain, A Professional Colombian would not have to worry about the Langauge barrier as they are here in the USA(deception in legal contracts, being cheated in the stores, unable to fully know their rights as they would if all contracts, laws ect were in their native langauge). Just look at the confusion many Americans have in Colombia when it comes to marriage, Banking, Cedullas, legal contracts ect. This site is jammed full of such stories! Practically every Latino I have met here in Miami, professional or Non professional,have related stories of Discrimination to me so one is simply being naive to say it doesn't occur here,,,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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billyb says on Oct 8, 2006, 07:17:

Miamai, you're probably right about MDs... making an aesier transition, but even lawyers would have to be recertified or what ever due to the fact that the laws are different even though both are based on the Napoleonic code. If someone doesn't speak the language in the US but works hard can start at the bottom, work hard learn the language, move up the ladder and where he ends up will usually be dictated by his abilities. That won't be the case in Spain, where there is little to no social/economic mobility, even for the natives. By the way 25% of the prison population in Spain is Colombian. That creates a great social stigma that filters down to the job market, as small as it is already there. I guaranty you that Colombians face way more discrimination in Spain than they do in Miami.

BillyB

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miamimike says on Oct 8, 2006, 09:57:

Curious BillyB,,, How many years did you live in SPain to make this observation on the discrimination amongst professionals in Spain? BTW, not only will Doctors make an easier transistion in Spain, so will Teachers, Licensed Engineers, Nurses, Physical Theraphists, ect. Don't forget, for anyone wanting to take the State Boards here in Florida, they first need to bring their English up to the Technical Level in all aspects. No small task, I know since I work here in the Medical Field in Florida and have watched many many professionals attempt to revalidate their credentials and the Langauge barrier stops 'em cold. Many simply do not have all the time and money needed to do this-get fully bilingual ect. Not ONLY about hard work-Many simply don't have the time and money; they have family and work responsabilities. Not many, in reality, achieve this outside of the Cubans here in Florida and they do it ONLY because there is a special law ONLY for the Cubans. When the Cubans come to Miami, the State Medical Boards accept across the board all the Cubans's courses, no validation is necessary(and it cannot be done anyways as we have no formal relations with Cuba), only a translation of the coursework and a copy of their degree. This is not true for the Colombians, they do the whole 9 yards. Even with all this help, something like only 4 out of say 20 Cuban Doctors(who were educated in cuba) pass the US Med exam. As far as other Profession, say CPAs, Licensed Engineers, Physical Theraphy, Teachers, ect most of the Latinos I see who are in these Professions here in Miami are Cubanos and many have graduated from Florida universities at that! In Spain, the schools accept almost all of a Colombian's Doctor(nurse, physical theraphist, teacher's) university credits at a 1:1 exchange and they are NOT impeded by a Langauge Barrier. This is the main stumbling block for a professional in another country,,,and I see a lot and have personally met a lot here in Miami so I am very familiar with the long difficult process here in the USA. Lawyers-you forget--a Colombian Attorney has a master's level command of Spanish already so this in itself would put a Colombian Attorney light years ahead in SPain in seeking to revalidate his/her license.I'd wager a Colombian Educated Attorney would be practicing Law within a year or two at most in Spain; in the USA, it would be 5 years or so before he/she was practicing! Its a daunting task!

Discrimination in Miami???--I live here, half my neighbors in my Condo floor are Colombian. Talk to any of them, not a day goes by that someone here in Miami doesn't make a crack about their country like "Wow, you are from colombia, do you all sell cocaine??" and thats in Miami where we have a more relaxed atitude due to the fact there are so many immigrants.! Go to the Florida Panhandle(or worse alabama) where all the Rednecks, Cowboys, Hicks and Crackers live and its 3 times as bad as in Miami or Tampa Bay! Ever see a Colombian living in Alabama, there's a reason and this is it! LOL This level of discrimination is not present in Spain amongst professionals. Sorry

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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goin_south says on Oct 8, 2006, 12:22:

Miamimike I think it is will be interesting to project ahead in time and migration patterns. I live in a city on Interstate Highway 10 west of New Orleans, and the hispanic migration (of course, mostly mexican at this time) continues to move eastward from Texas. I would imagine the hispanic migration is moving northward through Florida, as well, just as it has with force through California the last 30 years. Sooner or later, the two will meet, somewhere there in Southern Mississippi and Alabama.

Oh, yes! It will take a bit of time to rush northward, I would think, through those two Gulf Coast States. And, maybe they - the immigrants - will be smarter than to hunker down right there in what seems to be Hurricane Alley. But, I remember the town in Georgia, somewhere not so far from Atlanta, I think, that has been captured on National news shows about the illegal immigration. Georgia,...Alabama, Mississippi. Given time, those (redneck) barriers will also be overcome.

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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aztec says on Oct 9, 2006, 04:41:

Given time, those (redneck) barriers will also be overcome. What redneck barriers are you referring to? We seem to have more illegal Mexicans here in Georgia than there are in Texas.

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goin_south says on Oct 9, 2006, 23:48:

"seem to have " I think are the explanatory words of your lament. Have you actually looked at a map of Texas lately? and noted its size and it's proximity to Mexico?

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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aztec says on Oct 10, 2006, 03:55:

Have you actually looked at a map of Texas lately? Yes, that is why we are so shocked by the invasion of illegals from Mexico here in Georgia.

We just assumed that the Mexicans only wanted to anex Texas and California and that would satisfy them. However, we are being advised they no longer slow down in these States. All "new" families are moving deeper into the USA.

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billyb says on Oct 10, 2006, 07:29:

Miami, so what you're saying... is that we hold our medical professionals to a higher standard? I have family in Spain (Spanish/professional) and visit quite frequently and when there, I live as a local not as a tourist. How long did you live there? What exactly does "medical field" mean in your case?

BillyB

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billyb says on Oct 10, 2006, 08:52:

BTW, Mike, I'm not... trying to be confrontational ;)

BillyB

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Boatygringo says on Oct 10, 2006, 10:57:

Dating I second Elomo,s opinion. A lot of the old Gringos that come to Colombia seem to think the Chicas want them for there charm and good looks. Boatygringo

Boatygringo

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paisa29 says on Oct 10, 2006, 11:01:

Kat1.... very good post, you are right about every thing.

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Plato says on Oct 10, 2006, 11:56:

Some of this stuff is hysterical! I'm glad I found this site! Calvo HP was priceless! LOL!

Regards,

Plato

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Colombiche says on Oct 10, 2006, 12:07:

I have an uncle and a cousin that work as dentists in southern Spain, one of them in Algeciras the other one in Malaga.

They are doing very well. Apparently, they tell me it is hard to find good dentists in that part of Spain, so they are in demand. They actually told me that they found spanish dentistry very archaic.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 11, 2006, 14:06:

Misconception, ignorance, is the root of all sort of racism and hatred. get to know the culture by yourself, be open minded. if I believe evrything about the misconception that people have about other people in different countries then I would believe all Colombians are narcotrafikers, all American Fat, All Arabs terrorist, all Italian Gays, French Dirty. but thank God I have travelled a lot to find out that all of this is rubish!

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utopiacowboy says on Oct 11, 2006, 21:47:

I would have to agree with you, Kat. As Mark Twain said, "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts."

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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elmodefoque says on Oct 12, 2006, 05:31:

My unbiased experience around people from across the big waters.
Back in the mid 60’s NYC, newly arrived to this great city, I lived in a large 6 story apt building with people from all over including three families from Spain. I remember the women as very short and squatty with a slight mustache and always kept their hair covered. The males, also short and squatty with an ever present 5 o’clock shadow and real bad short teeth. I was 10 yeara old, very injun with glowing tan and raven hair. They always looked at me funny, especially their chubby pale ugly kids. I knew didly squat from Spaniards outside what my grandfather’s grandfather told him and then passed on to me in wayuu “THEY STINK� . Lord and behold, my drunken injun grandfather was right. You could not be in the elevator with them unless you did not mind walking around nauseous all day long. . I remember many times opening the front door of the building and seeing them waiting for the elevator, I immediately made a U turn and waited for them to go up with out me. Sometimes I was coming down from the six floor and they walked in the elevator on the 4th. I used to hold my breath for over 2 minutes and at one point held my breath for nearly 4 and almost collapsed.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 12, 2006, 06:12:

Well I have been in the whole of Europe an apart from the Polish (they don't use deodorant so they have big B.O) I didn't smelt a nasty smell, no more than when I was in the USA. where I saw this MASSIVES Americans sweating like mad and with a hamburger in their hands yuakkk and a diet coke. But I am not going to say that all Americans are double size, but with all due respect you do have extremely large people there!!!! incredible!!

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oldbongo says on Oct 12, 2006, 08:27:

safe to say.. diet coke is a joke.

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miamimike says on Oct 12, 2006, 11:20:

is that we hold our medical professionals to a higher standard? I have family in Spain (Spanish/professional) and visit quite frequently and when there, I live as a local not as a tourist. How long did you live there? What exactly does "medical field" mean in your case?

BillyB

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BillyB-Most countries and citizens do hold their Medical Professionals such as a Doctor to a Higher Standard. That also has been true for Centuries. Medical field would include but is not limited to Doctors, Dentists, Chiropracters and the related ancillary Medical field(Nurses,Pts, RTs,XRay Techs, Sonographers, MRI Techs, Cat Scan Techs , there is more but for sake of brevity I only list these). I don't take it(your question) as confrontational and only repeat what experiences Medical Professional (Colombians) here in Miami and NYC have told me concerning their experience in attempting to re-validate their medical courses/degree and getting setup to take their respective professional state board licensing exams. And in the case of one(Colombian Dentist here who gave up the long complicated process of getting her US License due to the Langauge Barrier, the fact that the Florida Medical board would not accept many of her science courses due to the fact they were over 10 years old since she studied them in Colombia, they wanted her to repeat them here in the USA, the high cost of buying Health Insurance for her family who in the end went to Spain and was working within months as a Dentist. BTW, this Colombian Dentist was able to purchase National Health Insurance (beleive she told me through her taxes)for a very reasonable price( she told me it was less then $200 monthly in spain) where as here in the USA it would cost her over $1200 monthly for private non-group Blue Cross/Blue Shield Health Insurance here in the USA. Most of the low Wage jobs that are now in plentiful supply now in the USA(so called new economy) do NOT offer health insurance of any kind and due to the low wage nature of these same jobs, the employees are not able to buy it even if it was offered. And in the end, if they(colombian medical professionals) are licensed in Spain instead of the USA, sure they may not earn, in Dollar terms, as much as they may here(US) but then again, that(Earning power) was not why a Person went into the field of Medicine in the first place, they went into this field to help people and if they do earn a good income that is good, but its a secondary reason for their choosing medicine as a Profession. Better to enter Investment Banking if your life's ambition is to make a lot of money,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Colombiche says on Oct 12, 2006, 12:05:

Well I have travelled extensively in Southern Spain, Malaga, Torremolinos, Algeciras, Mijas, Marbella, Cordoba, Sevilla etc.

I don't really remember what spaniards smelled like, I remember their demeanor is a bit rougher around the edges than that of colombians i.e, when you walk into a store a colombian says in a sweet voice "A la orden", a spaniard will bark out "Diga!!". Of course, I was also tended to by some really hot and friendly waiters who gave me drinks in the house, so it kind of evens out.

Me and my friend were also harrassed on route to Marocco because we are colombian, they thought we were a couple of mulitas a la "Maria full of grace" or something. Just one question though, who is stupid enough to smuggle drugs into Marocco, I thought it was the other way around... I guess our tour guide was no Einstein.

I noticed spanish men are very handsome on average, when you go to Belnamadena, you see some really amazing male dancers in the nightclubs. The women tend to be stalkier, more masculine and not as stunning.

The food was good, I ordered pescaito frito, they serve the fish with the head on, though. Same with the paella, the rice has shrimp with heads and antennae, it looked like something out of a sci-fi movie.... Sorry, I like to look at my food, but I don't like my food looking back at me.

Electricity seems to be very scarce in Europe, I went into a public washroom in Cordoba, you turn the light on and there is a timer for it to go off, so if you have to do some extended b'ness in the can, you better bring a flashlight. I remember groping my way out of the lavatory in a hotel washroom in cordoba, it was almost the highlight of m