Paypal now offers accounts for Colombia

tannedincali (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 26, 2007, 13:36:

Mr. Hollywood says on May 26, 2007, 19:53:

Send money where? You mean you can send money out of Colombia but not into it? Or what?

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www.calirentals.net (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 26, 2007, 23:06:

miamimike says on May 27, 2007, 03:45:

Arthur Brode,I don't see Paypal as an Option on MercadoLibre.com Colombia's Equiv of eBay,,,It would be nice if this was an option. I belive its still is not offered due to Security issues,,,

http://www.mercadolibre.com.co/home_visitor.html

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juancegomez says on May 27, 2007, 18:34:

If true, then fine...limited is way better than nothing I'll see if it can be useful for a couple of online purchases that I've been completely unable to do due to the lack of PayPal access.

I'm not that fond of PayPal either, given some complaints I've read online, but unfortunately its use is already too widespread.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 27, 2007, 18:53:

Arthur..PayPal sends $$ to your bank account in Col or the US? Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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www.calirentals.net (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 27, 2007, 20:34:

www.calirentals.net (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 27, 2007, 20:40:

juancegomez says on May 27, 2007, 21:02:

Well... Looks like I'm getting a direct chance to see how good/bad PayPal's customer service is for myself...I have a little problem and need to e-mail them in order to fix it (hopefully). Sigh...

EDIT: They were UN-kind enough to fail at fixing my problem, so I'll have to resort to alternative methods in order to overcome that difficulty. Needless to say, my opinion of Paypal is currently heading towards the negative, but I'll give them one more chance.

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www.calirentals.net (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 29, 2007, 07:11:

Miguel_Clavo says on May 29, 2007, 09:27:

I didnt find an 800 #, but i did get this off their website... Customer Service Center
PayPal Customer Service agents are available to help you during the following times:

4:00 AM PDT to 10:00 PM PDT Monday through Friday
6:00 AM PDT to 8:00 PM PDT on Saturday and Sunday

We must verify the following information with the account holder before we can discuss any specifics about the account. Please have this information available when you call:

The telephone number listed on your account
The last 4 digits of your credit card or bank account registered with PayPal
Call us at: 1-402-935-2050 (a U.S. telephone number)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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juancegomez says on May 29, 2007, 13:09:

Thanks, arthur and Miguel_Clavo... But they already gave me an official customer service reply by e-mail.

I don't know if they'll sing a different tune by phone though...but I'm not that sure.

I'm still going to try to do something else, which might be better in the long run but will be a bit bothersome to set up in the meanwhile (yes, I prefer to be a bit vague about the details).

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www.calirentals.net (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 29, 2007, 19:30:

Miguel_Clavo says on May 29, 2007, 20:53:

i dont use PP much.....although someone here mentioned that they offer a CC or debit card which might be a good way to transfer $$ to Col???

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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www.calirentals.net (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 30, 2007, 04:52:

JMCana says on May 30, 2007, 13:19:

No problems I have been using Paypal for about 3 years now (though my account is in the USA) In that time I have well over 1,000 transactions with never a problem. So, Juancegomez, I hope you end up getting the good service. And their interest rate on money with them is better than most USA banks.

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JMCana says on May 30, 2007, 14:21:

Good and bad Morphus, I have had my credit cards locked for being used in Colombia. I have had my ATM account locked for using it in Colombia. But never my paypal account. Now, my address is in Colombia. But they did once notify me of suspicious activity that indeed was someone trying to get money from my account unlawfully.

Well, I can't say the company has not had problems with others, just that I have never had any problems with them and they have always been helpful to me.

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ujay says on May 30, 2007, 14:28:

Paypal In Colombia - how's it work? Hey guys someone who has a paypal account registered with Colombia let me know exactly how it works.

I have PAYPAL in the U.S. It works fine there but I'm unsure how it works If a local were to open a paypal account here.

I opened a new account in Colombia but it looks as if it doesn't allow any Colombian bank accounts only U.S bank accounts so what use it that for a Colombian with no U.S bank account?

Why would I open a Colombian paypal account with a U.S bank account, when I can just open a U.S paypal account instead.

Does this allow free transfers of Colombian pesos into and out of Colombian bank accounts like it works in the U.S and every where else in the world?

Because I am not seeing that option. It didn't even allow a Colombian Visa card to be added to the account. And the only currency you can keep funds in are Dollars not pesos.

At least the good thing is they will no longer limit the account for logging in from a COlombian IP address. I had these bastards shut me down because I was using the ATM paypal card in Colombia. The odd thing is I was using it for almost a year until they shut my account down. They also froze my funds. Which they can do for three months. But I submitted a complaint to the BBB and they gave my funds back to me. Still took a month. They also have suspended my account and will never allow me to use Paypal again. But they are stupid. All I did was open a new U.S bank account and got a new email address and was able to get a paypal account again. Paypal is a godsend for purchasing stuff of Ebay in the U.S and now they got the NEW VIRTUAL CREDIT CARD. You can buy anything off the internet without having to use your credit card. Paypal gives you a virtual number you can use and it just comes out your credit card. That is great I think.

So I just use it for purchases. Hopefully they will be able to make PAYPAL work exactly as it does in the U.S for Mercado Libre and Deremate which Ebay owns. And Ebay owns Paypal. So what's the problem? Why isn't it the same for Colombia? This would certainly revolutionize they way Colombians do business here if they got it right.

Right now you buy something on Mercadolibre and you got to stand in line at the bank like an idiot to put the money in the sellers account. That's just plain stupid way of doing business. And yet that's how it's done here. Unless the seller accepts credit card, but this limits about 90% of the sellers. They can't afford to setup a credit card service to sell their used couch or what have you.

Another function I'd like to see in Colombia is craigslist.org in SPANISH so that it worked like it does every where else in the world. Right now its just full of SPAM and hookers. You check the FREE section and it's empty. You check the free section for Los Angeles and people are giving away 30 inch screen TV, couches, beds, microwaves that work. People would just love craigslist here if they used the darn thing. There's about 100 listings on the site now. Just about all of it nothing but spam. No one is using it. If they were this spam would be flagged by the users and all we'd get is quality classifieds. People would use it for jobs, free stuff, activities, dating, services, everything. No more looking in the dumb ass classified papers which by the way don't even allow you to advertise a business unless you're registered with camara de Comercio. Craigslist would kill that. And kill all the paper classified. Craigslist is and allways will be FREE.

Newscorp who owns DirecTV and purchased MYSPACE and PHOTOBUCKET has offered to buy craigslist for 3 billion dollars and the guys don't want to sell it. They want it to be free. And they don't care about money. They have good jobs and live happily. They don't want the 3 billion dollars and then have to hire bodyguards the rest of their lives and look over their shoulders. That's what they say. Interesting folks.

We need some internet advancements in this country. People aren't using it. All they know how to do is check their emails and use the messenger. They don't know how to use the social interraction sites to their advantage and this is mainly because most of them are in English Craigslist.org for example.

And let's not get into shitty ISP broadband speeds here at double the price of the U.S. I have to uncap my modem just to get a decent speed so I can download all the freaking movies and TV shows at full quality that half a year to premiere here. I've already watched the entire season of Heroes last month. And it's only just come to DirecTV.

Anyone in Colombia using an FTA System here? To capture DISH networks for free from the STATES?

This is what I was going to do next. Cancel this DirecTV and get 3000 free channels with an FTA system. No more waiting for the shows to get subtitled and premiere on DirecTV or TV cable.

The same internet that costs $10 in the U.S. Here I pay 100,000 pesos.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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webmanco says on May 30, 2007, 15:08:

education etc "We need some internet advancements in this country. People aren't using it. All they know how to do is check their emails and use the messenger. ..............."
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People in Colombia do use the internet for more than just checking the e-mail and messenger. Bank transacations, education, dating, etc.

Mercado Libre in Colombia does have a paying system to collect their fees. Granted it is still somehow hard to pay the seller. If you think you will be buying from the same seller quite often then you can register his (her)bank account in order to pay thru internet.

About Direc Tv, I could not care less, I don´t wacth that much tv, plus as you said thru Internet you get a lot of material and the best thing is that you managed when you want to see it. Direct TV charges for special movies from $7000 pesos.

It looks like the FTA (Free to Air system) is somehow provided in Colombia by Teléfonica Telecom.


Is another portal to offer and buy things and services. La Feria del Trueque

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ujay says on May 30, 2007, 16:31:

Not quite People aren't using the internet to fullest advantage. Sure they use for banking too and dating but they don't really know how to and where to get the good stuff. And if they don't speak English they miss out on a lot of it.

A free couch or TV isn't much, but try finding one easily in Colombia. I'm sure lots of people got a good decent TV they would give away. I gave away my computer system to someone that needed it just last month. Try to see how easy it is to get something free in another country and how many sites you will find with free stuff. Now try to get the same in Colombia.

There's even a completely FREE no credit card required or any money needed DATING SITE called plentyoffish.com in the States. You'll only find a handful of Colombianas on there at most. Yet other countries are in the hundreds of thousands. SO again you tell me do you really think Colombians are using the internet to their fullest advantage?

Do they know of a site called couchsurfer.com where they can travel the globe and find a free place to stay the night. Again very few Colombians really know about these sites and other useful sites. And many will be clueless about PAYPAL. It's always the English Speakers who will know about these places and use them to their advantage. And when that happens they'll be able to say goodbye to the nine to five jobs and be independent. It's all there on the net. Colombia is not taking advantage of this. Only a handful have "got it"


And there lies my statement backed up. Why are people still lining up at the bank to pay their bills. They don't have internet access, computers. If they do the online systems are cumbersome. You need bank accounts to pay. You got to go specific banks to deposit or have an account with a specific bank to make it easier for you. There isn't the simplicity of PAYPAL to send and get money. I go on mercado libre right now and I need a credit card or I got to line up at the bank to put money into the seller's account. Most sellers do not take credit cards. Internet auctions are for people who are not business men also. And there lies the success of online auctions. Any person can do it. We are not in the old age any more. We are in an information internet age that does away with borders, government rules and meddling. Finally we have a leverage against the system. For a regular person with some stuff to sell they will not have a credit card system or effective easy to use payment setup. Paypal is the solution.

Telefonica is the new satellite service in Colombia. This is not free to air. This is a paid subscriber package. Until this year DirecTV was the only satellite provider. Until now they were a monopoly.

Telefonica from Spain just bought Colombia's Telecom and they own moviestar cell phone service also.

A Free to air receiver and dish would effectively hack and decode Telefonica's signal on a regular Pizza size satellite dish so you can watch them for free. DireTV requires a big ugly dish to effectively get their broadcast for free also.

That is what a FTA receiver does. And what millions of people do in the States and in Canada. We can get all sorts of stuff on the net but the speeds are not very good. I got my modem uncapped and still only getting 1.8 MB at most. Whereas people paying half the price in other countries and getting 5MB to 10MB lines. They only give 1.8 MB lines to a registered business here. Hence the need to uncap.

Tcniso.com is blocked for access by your Colombian ISP will sell you a modem for $100 to uncap Tv Cable and get the business plan that providers won't give you.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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webmanco says on May 30, 2007, 20:00:

and a fail over plan Telefónica bought just half of the shares not the whole Telecom.
And the number of Colombian women on a free dating site is not a measure of how Colombians do used the internet.
Some Colombians take full advantage of the Internet but don´t trust to do wired transfers.

Bandwidth in Colombia is not good that is true, but for most users 400K is enough. There is a lot of triple play plans out there. Most people prefer Cable over DSL, with prices coming down it will be nice to have two providers and a fail over plan.
I wonder if Locationfree by Sony is somehow related to Free to air system brought up by Ujay. In theory it lets you get hold of Satellite Tv from any tv to other tv´s at home or anywhere in the world.



Thanks for the links. It was couchsurfing I saw a couple from PBH sharing a couch.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 30, 2007, 21:28:

i wish i could get Cable in el centro CTG but not yet..only choice for the present is the Telfonic/Telecom deal...

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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miamimike says on May 31, 2007, 00:52:

Ujay, No Paypal yet In Colombia Due to Security I am told by Mercadolibre in Colombia. Seems like Mercadolibre.com/Col simply does not want to make it easy to do business electronically,,,I also have a Paypal Account for eBay sales and as long as the ATM bank in Colombia has the same symbols as my Paypal account I can use it supposedly. Mercadolibre will never take off in Col until they rectify&simplify this electronic Payment process rather then standing in some bank line wasting their time making these deposits. Can you imagine doing any Volume sales with this in mind???? I thought it strange when I opened my Mercadolbre.com Account and they never asked me for a Credit Card Number to place on file but the reason is SECURITY(lack of it). I shouldn't have been surprised as its Colombia. LOL It simply is not eBay in the true sense of the Word and will never be until this security problem is resolved. BTW, if you look at Paypal's website for what countries are approved, you will see Colombia is the ONLY South American Country I believe where Paypal is not approved. I also feel that some of the Old Controlling Money families and interests in Colombia don't really want online Auction Sites such as Mercado Libre.Com because they cannot control it as it gives the General Buying Popultion in Colombia many more money saving Buying options and they cannot have control and make profits. This group does not want to give up their age old stranglehold on the Colombian Market. Mercadolibre.com is NOW in its infancy as was eBay was in 1989 in the usa) when I joined. Hopefully in 4-5 years as security improves in Col, so will Mercadolibre.com advance in its business. It will be a great day for Colombia when this happens,,,

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miamimike says on May 31, 2007, 01:19:

Sorry Rubito but Col is only setup to send not for Receiving 190 Countries Paypal is accepted in fully and in varying degrees,,,Amazing Russia(with all its scams) and Venezuela is farther along in this(electronic payments) then Colombia is,,,I started looking into this a year ago for Mercadolibre Online Sales ands it is indeed frustrating,,,A very Knowledgeable Poster here(not me lol, but someone else's name who will go unmentioned for privacy)Personally went to the main Mercado Libre Office in North Bogota to garner Info and related to me how they were less then postive about truly making this process less complicated and growing the online Auction business in Colombia at this point in time.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-approved-signup-countries-outside


BTW, Cuba is not approved yet either for Paypal so go figure. It cannot be because Cuba has a Communistic form of Government because if that was the case, China would not be approved Either(yet they are-paypal is fully integrated in china)) as they are the largest communist country,,,Pure Politics

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miamimike says on May 31, 2007, 01:38:

Looking at Paypal's Website I don't see where you have that option.I read it as you can send your Girlfriend one of your Paypal ATM Cards(from your US based account) and after you deposit money in your US Account, she can withdraw it with your Paypal ATM card at a Col Bank ATM that accepts the Card. Or you could send her paypal money from your American Paypal account to her Col bank account and she could then extract the money with her own ATM Card from her own Col bank account. I like this better as she no access to your account with a Paypal ATM card you would send her. Depends on your level of Trust with her,,,

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panthdave says on May 31, 2007, 03:31:

Miami Mike PayPal to a Colombian Bank Account Or you could send her paypal money from your American Paypal account to her Col bank account and she could then extract the money with her own ATM Card from her own Col bank account.

I don't think you can do that...Paypal doesn't use Pesos..for currency and will not transfer to Colombian Bank Accounts.
Interest for the Future if Colombia allows US Dollar Accounts will Paypal jump on this..that will be good or if Paypay will send money to Colombian bank accounts in Pesos..without a conversion fee or if the Colombian bank will not charge for inbound electronic transfer..Which I heard for inbound wires you need to go to the bank to sign for inbound transfer before they post to your account. Maybe that is one of the reasons PayPal won't transfer to Colombian Banks.

Still the same Pay Pal and no real Changes at all...



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miamimike says on May 31, 2007, 03:57:

panthdave, if that is the case(what you write) then what exactly does Paypal mean when they say someone in the USA can send Money to Colombia as Col is listed on the Website under the "SEND" option???

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panthdave says on May 31, 2007, 07:48:

????????? Good One Mike I would assume that Colombia address paypal account would need a bank account in the PayPal Bank Network...
Example: Colombian person living in Colombia has a US Dollar account with Citibank United States..The money is transferred to the US Dollar account to Citibank in the United States and the colombian person goes to an ATM in Colombia and withdraws Pesos like Arthur but has to pay the 1% conversion fee which Mastercard/Cirrus/Visa/Star Network will charge. Many US Bank Accounts don't charge for inbound ACH Payments which come from PayPal. Colombian Banks can accept inbound wires but are a pain the in the ass and will convert the dollar amount to pesos at there rate I would assume..So Paypal does not want to have that hassle..

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panthdave says on May 31, 2007, 07:51:

The Paypal Debit Card.. Someone can transfer the funds to the Colombian PayPal account and the Colombian person would need to go to a Colombian ATM and withdraw Pesos but still pay the conversion Fee...on the Paypal debit card..because PayPal does not deal with Pesos..but to have a Paypal debit card it would need to be linked to a bank account in the PayPal network..

Above I was mentioning to fund the paypal account that is what i meant.

Crazy..



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miamimike says on May 31, 2007, 11:14:

From Paypal; Sending money Paypal:


How do I send money? Question : Answer : If you have a PayPal account, you can send money by following these steps:
Log in to your PayPal account.
Click the Send Money tab.
Fill out the form.
Click Continue.
Review the details of the payment, including the payment method. To change any information, click the appropriate Change link. Note: If you edit your payment details, the payment method will return to the default method of payment.
Click Send Money to send the payment.
If you do not yet have a PayPal account, you can send money with PayPal by following these steps:
Visit https://www.paypal.com.
Click the Send Money tab.
In the Send Money box:
Fill in the recipient's email address or phone number
Fill in your email address
Fill in the amount in U.S. Dollars
Select the appropriate purchase category
Click the Send Money button
To complete your payment, you must create a PayPal account. To create an account, follow these steps:
Enter your first and last name.
Select your credit card type.
Enter your credit card number, the expiration date, and your card security code.
Enter your address, city, state, and ZIP code.
Enter your telephone number and your email address.
Enter and confirm your PayPal password.
Enter the code shown in the box.
Click the User Agreement and Privacy Policy links.
Click the Agree & Continue button.
Review your payment details.
To change any information, click the appropriate Change link
To cancel the payment, click Cancel
Click the Send Money button.
Recipients receive an email notification for the payment. This email contains a link. After clicking the link, recipients can log in to their PayPal account to receive the payment. A recipient who does not have an account must open an account to receive the payment.

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