PARENTS OF GRINGO BOYFRIEND THINK HE'LL BE FOUND DEAD ON A DITCH IF HE TRAVELS TO COLOMBIA

deathnova says on Dec 10, 2007, 01:37:

Why feel bad? He DOES need to put on his "pantalones"

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goin_south says on Dec 10, 2007, 01:54:

"....my boyfriend who, I know, is also very afraid of going there...."

You need a new boyfriend, or....
stay at home in the usa, dangerous place, birmingham.... or,

Who M I 2 judge?

If he's afraid to go, then... he's not FULLY GROWN. jajj

Where do we go from here?

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bartolo_colon says on Dec 10, 2007, 02:23:

Advice to gringo boyfriend: get your affairs in order, and say goodbye to your friends and family for one last time. Veronica is dragging you to the most godforsaken, violent nightmare of a country you can possibly imagine. 1.5 MILLION tourists visited last year, god only knows how many made it out alive.

Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here!

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john_stark says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:02:

Most of those "tourists" are Colombians.

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john_stark says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:07:

It always comes down to the chucha.

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slguy says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:13:

Sounds to me like that between them, the father and son can't come up with a set.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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john_stark says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:15:

Well if you haven't got the cajones you don't deserve the chucha.

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gabolicious says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:18:

ouch Veronica! if you two have a serious relationship he gotta be a little bit braver than he is today...

In my opinion no "safety stats, murder rates, and all the improvement Colombia has made in the last years" will change your father -in-law's nor your boyfriend's mind. your boyfriend has to go down there and see it with his own eyes.

Elección no canonización....

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slguy says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:32:

The guy's 28 years old. Old enough to make some decisions on his own, no?

"my boyfriend who, I know, is also very afraid of going there."

Yep - what you got there is a BOYfriend.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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john_stark says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:32:

No chucha for you! Next!

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:37:

I don't know what the statistics are but it's probably not too much of a stretch to say that the chances of a smart, non-drunk foreigner getting kidnapped in Colombia are no worse than a person in the U.S. getting shot and killed at church, at school or at the mall.

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elmodefoque says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:49:

stay away from fokin malls. I aint going to garden state mall in new jersey, i'm doing my shopping right in mid town manhattan, macy's

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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billyb says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:53:

They're going to have to start making people hang up their gun belts on pegs in the church walls, just lke the old west saloons.

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elmodefoque says on Dec 10, 2007, 06:56:

GIB i gotta get to colombia pronto.
Here, you can't go to school, malls, and churces with out some bored Mailiine mendelson listening nucklehead shooting at you.
Ok, so i stay in NYC where we don't have to deal with chit like that, then i remeber the fokin terrorist.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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Albatross says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:05:

...bbbbut America is the land of the FREE, and the home of the BRAVE !

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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elmodefoque says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:16:

There are two things I believe have destroyed American youth.

1. No mandatory draft at 18 years old. Sent those young bored spoiled modefouqes to boot camp to learn some fokin discipline.

2. I blame fokin Mexicans!
Why fokin Mexicans?
It used to be that kids had chores, take out the garbage, cut the three down, paint the garage, mow the lawn etc. They no longer have to do that chit.
Mexicans will do it for 20 bucks a day
Now kids have all the money and time in the world to shoot, cans, trees and squirrels with assault rifles, then after getting bored shooting at trees and squirrels people are next.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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elmodefoque says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:20:

and if you take that young modefoque and smack him upside his head for shooting Mr. Wilson from accross the street between the eyes, you get arrested for child abuse

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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morphus says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:21:

Don't forget X-Box

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elmodefoque says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:23:

break that fokin x-box on his fokin head and make him take out the garbage.

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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morphus says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:25:

They even got a Tony Montana game. Very bloody!

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elmodefoque says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:25:

heeeyyy Mr. Wilson!!!
the good ol days of Dennis the Menace
now is Dennis the mass murderer

ASK NOT WHAT THE PUSSY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT PUSSY!!!!!!!!!! CAT LOVER

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morphus says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:28:

I met a gringo in Colombia around 45 years old. He said he had to lie to his mother about where he was going....LOL

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Wastelandlive says on Dec 10, 2007, 07:30:

Lose the mama's boy and find a man who makes his own decisions.

Good Lord.

Wasteland

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msaucey says on Dec 10, 2007, 08:07:

Veronica, the boys are giving your boyfriend a hard time..... Well, with good reason... lol...

Actually, you all are going to be here for 2 weeks..... and if you've seen some other post, Bogota is the #21 tourist hotspots for 2008....

Check out travelingirl's feedback on her recent trip to Bogota.... I mean, she barely survived to tell her tale, but she did survive... =)

Bottomline is.... yes, there are always dangers when you travel.... Normal precautions should be made, BUT, chances are he'd be much safer then in Birmingham...

As for the parents, just freak them out even more.... Have your boyfriend make up a will, and a letter of instructions of what his parents should do in the event of a kidnapping... Well, they're in Birmingham, what else could be expected.... Maybe, if you told them that you both would be wearing bullet proof vests, that would be great....

Also, make sure they don't see "La Sierra" between now and the time you both leave....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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Rob77 says on Dec 10, 2007, 08:15:

msaucey,

The locations in the NYT Article are listed randomly. No where in the article does it state they were placed in any order.

BOYCOTT CITGO - CHAVEZ SUCKS!!!

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msaucey says on Dec 10, 2007, 08:26:

Okay, then let's just say that Bogota is on the list of destinations for 2008..... Just happens to be the 21st listed destination...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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gold digger says on Dec 10, 2007, 23:02:

I'm waiting for an X-Box drug smuggling game to come out. Where you do everything from grow the chit , wash the leaves with gas,make it into powder, packaging then running it through the Mexican tunnels into Texas or flying it into Miami all while avioding DEA & Border Patrol,etc. Great education for the kids. jejeje
Tell his parents that your really going to Panama, then Colombia won't sound so bad to them after all.

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slguy says on Dec 11, 2007, 16:12:

jajajajajjaaj

reminds me of my drug-addled youth. Once I told my mom I was going skiing, two hours from my home in NC.

I really went to Florida.

I came back with a bushel of oranges for her/her neighbors (leaves still attached- I picked 'em myself).

Her response? "so- how was the skiing?"

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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msaucey says on Dec 11, 2007, 16:20:

lol.... I came home sunburned one day.... My mom's instinct kicked in and wanted to know how I could possibly get sunburned inside of an air conditioned building all day, IF I was in school....

gold digger, I have a friend that creates video games... I'll pitch it to him and see if he can create it.... lol....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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slguy says on Dec 11, 2007, 16:33:

Did I mention this was in February? snow skiing?

My poor mom....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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msaucey says on Dec 11, 2007, 16:35:

lol.... Well, I'm no longer surprised on how you ended up in FL...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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slguy says on Dec 11, 2007, 16:38:

was as far south as I could get. I came down in 1986 to do a 90-day consulting project. Except for couple years each in Puerto Rico and Brasil- I've been here ever since. Me and every other "scared of the cold" idiot in the US, jajajjajajjajaa

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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msaucey says on Dec 11, 2007, 16:49:

With good flippin reason.... Hell, I'm a big baby.... lower than 29 it's too cold...

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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msaucey says on Dec 11, 2007, 16:49:

I like to be able to snowboard in a t-shirt.... not in a parka....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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slguy says on Dec 11, 2007, 17:09:

"lower than 29"? I'm semi-suicidal at 45!

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 11, 2007, 23:44:

GIB, I think you are spot on about the Mexicans. When I was growing up - and you are not too much older than me, I hustled to make a dollar. I mowed lawns, shoveled snow off driveways, collected aluminum cans (I even had an exclusive contract with the Holiday Inn to be able to get into their dumpsters), washed cars, etc. I worked DAMN hard for hardly anything. But now, other people do that from south of the border and US kids play XBox and get fat. They think hard work is waking up in the morning. When and if I have kids - I pray they have a work ethic like we were used to.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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slguy says on Dec 12, 2007, 07:36:

The first motorized vehicle I ever bought was a Snapper riding lawn mower. I worked my ass off pushing a mower, to be able to buy that thing. But it was a money maker for me. ;)

Those days are long gone, sadly. BUT- my sons earn their spending cash keeping my boat clean and shiny. They don;t have much choice ;) - but they do get paid. My 14-year old is turning into a pretty good hand with a varnish brush these days....jajajajja

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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msaucey says on Dec 12, 2007, 08:54:

Well.... I can't say I pushed very many lawnmowers.... But, I too did the whole babysitting for extra cash.... Work demonstration booths.... prior to 15... there used to be a city program, don't know if it's still around, where you actually work at government facilities during your teens.... I did that during my summers after I turned 15.. worked at Social Services, The Gas Company and a school... It was a great insight to a real work environment... But, I also did a lot of hours of volunteer work at Children's Hospital....

The trouble about trying to make yourself stupider than you really are is that you very often succeed. - CS Lewis

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 12, 2007, 20:49:

slguy, there is nothing wrong with paying your own kids for chores. (Not that you thought there was) My parents paid me $10 to mow the lawn every week. That was almost an acre with a push mower, no such thing as self propelled. I also mowed a few neighbor's lawns on a regular basis too. For me, it was pretty good money. I also have permanent hearing damage because I listened to Iron Maiden at full volume with a Sony Walkman while mowing, to cover over the lawnmower noise. Collecting the aluminum cans was the hardest job I had. We would go to the Holiday Inn at 5am. We would have to seperate the cans from all the rest of the trash. We would net about 50 pounds of cans per day. We made .25 a pound. That is F-ing hard work for what we made. But I wouldn't change a thing. I know the value of a dollar.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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Simon says on Dec 15, 2007, 11:13:

My best advice to you is to get a new boyfriend, one who doesn't come from a redneck/racist family, someone whose family does not look down upon your country and your culture,my best suggestion to you...get a Colombian boyfriend!!

"Tu vas a ver, llegaras a mi edad y veras que Colombia seguira igual"-----Simon Sr.

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