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Para lo que sirven los desmovilazados

Es el colmo que en Colombia les den tanto beneficio a los matones de las farc que han dizque desmovilizado. El gobierno les da de todo a estos criminales y así es que lo pagan. La mayoría siguen delinquiendo y muchos siguen metidos con las farc.

Para los hijueputas de las farc deberían haber dos opciones, plomo o cárcel. El ejemplo mas descarado es que la puta tuerta matona de la Karina no haya pagado ni un año entero de cárcel y que ahora la tengan de "gestora de paz". No me joda. No faltaba mas. Ahí si que falta justicia estilo sicario.

Pues aquí hay dos angelitos "desmovilizados" que pretendían volar a media Neiva con cinco bombas para celebrar semana santa. Ahí esta el ejemplo para qui todos los imbéciles que les hacen escusas a las farc reconozcan la mierda que hablan. Los apologistas de las farc hablan basura mientras en Neiva, los inocentes pagan con terror y sangre. El que tenga el descaro de decir que las farc no son terroristas, que se vaya al carajo.

http://www.lanacion.com.co/index.php/ezflow_site_user/Ultima-Hora/Al-C...

By ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) on Apr 8, 2009, 08:04 in Politics & the war.

mrgizmo says on Apr 8, 2009, 08:18:

AMEN!

Behind every successful man, there's a nagging woman

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Bill Turley (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 8, 2009, 08:40:

Hey CG I could participate if you wrote in English

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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naujitii says on Apr 8, 2009, 08:46:

"Para los hijueputas de las farc deberían haber dos opciones, plomo o cárcel."

Couldn't said it better myself.

Los terroristas de Las Farc tienen un lugar en donde ellos pueden desmovilizarce. Ese lugar es el infierno.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 8, 2009, 08:57:

Sorry Bill. The article is in Spanish, so the post is as well. It is about two "demobilized" farc scumbags that got caught with five bombs headed into Neiva, Huila. Unfortunately, Neiva, along with the rest of the Huila department, is one of the areas most affected by farc bomb attacks. My comment was that the treatment given to supposedly demobilized farc terrorists(and paras for that matter) is ridiculous. These people deserve a jail cell or a bullet.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

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tannedincali (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 8, 2009, 09:33:

Ahora solo falta que los vuelvan a liberar por vencimiento de terminos... que impunidad hay en Colombia. http://www.canalrcn.com/noticias/index.php/nacional/excarcelados-guerr...

Take the red pill and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 8, 2009, 09:39:

Tu lo has dicho, "que impunidad hay en Colombia".

Lo que falta en Colombia es pena de muerte para todo guerrillero y paramilitar, y para los delitos de homicidio y secuestro.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

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romy says on Apr 8, 2009, 10:13:

impunidad existe con toda criminalidad
97% of murders in Colombia go unpunished: EU (http://colombiareports.com/colombian-news/news/3491-97-of-murders-in-c...)

Existen academicos que hablan de una cultura de impunidad

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 8, 2009, 10:19:

Que triste. Un amigo de la familia de mi esposa lo mataron en Neiva hace unos días. El asesino era el ex-novio de la novia el muchacho. Lo habían denunciado por amenazas varias veces y para variar, los tombos sirvieron para nada. Hubieron muchos testigos y se sabe exactamente quien fue el asesino, pero aun así el tipo sigue libre.

Ojala este caso no resulte entre esos 97%. La justicia en Colombia es un verdadera pena. No se puede contar con la policía y la fiscalia para nada.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

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webmanco says on Apr 8, 2009, 10:30:

La justicia es para nosotros los de ruana, por eso es mejor andar por la sombrita, en caso de que se quieran desjuiciar, haganlo a lo grande con eso les nombrarán gestores de Paz, además de muchos valores agregados.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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Simon says on Apr 8, 2009, 13:25:

CG, por eso es que no me voy a vivir a Colombia.....por la maldita injusticia que reina alla!

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 8, 2009, 14:10:

Bueno. Eso a mi no me para. Por ahora lo único que me mantiene aquí son mis niños.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

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ferran says on Apr 8, 2009, 15:02:

They say justice is blind, I would say that in Colombia is deaf, dumb and blind, that doesnt stop it from being a great country filled beautiful people and a majestic beauty in its land.

Que Viva Colombia, Chipichape y Yumbo!!

All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.

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Sam Salmon says on Apr 9, 2009, 10:05:

This what happens when there's no death penalty.

' a la orden!'

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Londoner says on Apr 10, 2009, 12:19:

If ever there was a country crying out for the death penalty it,s Colombia.

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romy says on Apr 10, 2009, 13:13:

Crazy Idea: Lets give an inept judicial system the ability to kill

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august says on Apr 10, 2009, 14:17:

This article is confusing though, like a post from Tasco666 or something. I agree, those who have been a part of guerrilla groups, then go through a demobilization process, should stay away from crime. But what about the "demobilized" paramilitaries? It's pretty clear at this point that they've continued to commit crimes as well. Is it the bullet or prison for them too or is the author's article simply trying to protect the trafficking turf of the paras? Why the need to say members of the FARC and not the broader "illegal armed groups?"

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 10, 2009, 14:36:

The article is specifically about a planned attack by demobilized farc guerrillas. I have been very vocal about condemning the absurd Ley de Paz y Justicia as it applies to supposedly demobilized paramilitaries.

A good system would be to require farc and paras to agree to a special condition for demobilization assistance. If they accept to take part in the demobilization, they agree to an automatic severe prison sentence if they are subsequently caught breaking certain laws or taking part in guerrilla or paramilitary activities. I would be in favor of a death penalty in those cases, but a 30 to 50 year prison sentence would be acceptable as well.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

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august says on Apr 10, 2009, 14:45:

Oh yeah, I'm not blaming you CG, it's just that the first 3 sentences of the article didn't sit right with me. It's a tough situation no doubt. I mean there's just too many incentives ($, threats, etc.) for demobilized members of these groups to return to crime and the Justice and Peace Law programs don't lead to enough jobs, but the prisons are not a good thing in my opinion and I'm not sure the death penalty thing would work either. It's illegal there anyways right? So yeah, damn.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 10, 2009, 14:51:

This newspaper is one of the local papers in Neiva. Unfortunately, the writing isn't always great. They also can be less than objective sometimes. My point in including it was simply as a reference.

In general, the demobilization programs, particularly with the paras, have been an absolute joke. The paras have only changed in name. A huge percentage are up to the same old tricks and others have just turned to petty crime and drug dealing. It really cracks me up to see when some people argue "but the paras have demobilized". That kid of comment pretty well shows that the author is completely clueless as to the realities of the situation.

I don't know what the solution is. Will the country ever be rid of the illegal groups? Just today I saw an article about Sendero Luminoso ambushing an army patrol in Peru. Fujimori is now in prison and those SL bastards are back in action. Let's hope Colombia fares better in the long run.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

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august says on Apr 10, 2009, 15:59:

Yeah, it's tough to tell. I think there is a lot of energy for some kind of new drug policy in the US and that might have a significant effect on life in drug producing/exporting countries outside the US. I'm pretty optimistic that Colombia too is generally moving in the right direction in many ways. It feels like the public forum for discussion is always broadening and the government is being held more accountable to improve (or at least not hurt) the living conditions for more people. It's just a slow, painful process though.

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Londoner says on Apr 11, 2009, 21:14:

romy,Colombia ain,t the place for wooly liberal ideas.We can,t apply the same standards as the US or Europe.I haven,t seen anything here that changes my mind about the death penalty in Colombia.

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billyb says on Apr 11, 2009, 21:28:

That's why in Colombia justice is sometimes applied extra-judicially.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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