papitas criolla

miamimike says on Aug 26, 2005, 21:30:

But you can... I've seen them in Miami at Various small stores in the Past.I have seen them in the Presidente Supermarkets before here in Miami. They are simply the Best!Probably in south miami from Calle 8 down to Kendall Dr(sw 88 st)if one looked, I'll bet various stores could be located that sell them.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Rubiazo says on Aug 26, 2005, 22:27:

They dont travel well You can find em in NYC but only in jars. They are nothing like regular potatoes which are very long lived. Papas criollas are very sensitive to temperature change and rot really quickly.
If they do exist out of jars in Miami, I´d say go to haialeah. That is Colombian central.

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miamimike says on Aug 27, 2005, 00:52:

No, Hialeah is Havana Norte... or at least it still was yesterday.Hialeah is like 90% Latino and of that, probably 70% are Cuban and the rest split between Nicas,Colombianos, Ticas, Mexicanos and a few Gringos, very few. And I will wager 90% of any Businesses are Cuban Owned. In fact, Raul Martinez the Mayor(hialeah) for the last 24 years is a Native of Cuba. In my daily travels there, I cannot think of a Colombian Food Market in any of the major commerical areas. Not to say there aren't but if there are, they aren't too visible.Maybe 2-3 Colombian Restaurants also. Your Colombian concentrations are more likely from 8st SW(calle8) to sw 88 St (Kendall dr) between 87 ave to 137th ave. and in the Weston areas. There are some scattered pockets of Colombians living in Miami Beach and also in Sunny Isles but probably not in sufficient numbers to support a Colombian Market. They aren't concentrated like the Cubans are; look for Col markets in areas heavily populated by Colombians. Another idea, simply stop at a Colombian restaurant and ask them who their supplier is for a location/source.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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RolaParaTodaLaVida says on Aug 27, 2005, 06:27:

in n.y...only in jars and they are not the same... the tast is lost by putting them in a jar.

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kernow62 says on Aug 27, 2005, 07:07:

In Orlando they are again available in jars and frozen in bags. Unfortunately they both aren't the same as fresh. The frozen ones are good in ajiaco though.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 27, 2005, 07:30:

RPRLV and Kernow are correct ! Mike, what you are seeing is a potatoe that looks like a papa criolla in terms of size, and color. They are similar but they are NOT Pappas criollas from Colombia. Customs do not allow them to be brought into the US. The only way the "original" Pappa criolla can be bought here is in frozen, in a plastic bag, or in a jar with the liquid.

I do not know where those "look-alike" come from. Look, logic dictates that they are not the same. If they were in Miami, they would also be in ORlando or Chicago for that matter. In fact Kernow, if you go to a large fruit and Veg store that specializes in latin American fruits and veg, you will be able to find the same ones in Orlando. Some tropical fruits (Papayas from the Dominican Republic) that enter Miami never make their way North because ot the spoilage factor. But pot. don't spoil quickly and if they were in this country, they would make their way to the huge fruit and veg markets here.

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miamimike says on Aug 27, 2005, 09:08:

But the OP no where said she was looking for "Fresh" mostly I saw canned and frozen but also a friend in Kendall had some at a Col. Parilla and told me she bought them in Kendall( not frozen)or canned ) so I will accept her word,Now that we "know" its Fresh we are looking for that is something else but to aclarify again, read the OP; nowhere does it say fresh only .G5, How often do you frequent Kendall BTW--in the last year?

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 27, 2005, 09:25:

Mike, you will accept her word and not mine? How often I visit Kendall is not relevant. There is only one thing that is relevant, and that is that the US Customs service (which is in Miami) will NOT allow them in the country. Now, that is not to say that some Colombian people don't lie on their customs form and attempt to bring them in.

So Mike, if you would like, to prove that I am correct, I will be glad to call the U.S.Customs Service station in Miami, with you on the line and you can hear with your own ears that they are not allowed to be brought into the country.In fact, I will bet you on it. So get ready to open your wallet.

Like I said, there are "look alikes" that come from other locales. They are easily confused with the orignal ones from Col.

So, believe your friend, or believe the US customs service. Now who would you say is more reliable?

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miamimike says on Aug 27, 2005, 09:44:

Gomezman I am Confused..by your Post "So Mike, if you would like, to prove that I am correct"???? Or that you are incorrect? And if a Colombian Market or two popped up since your last foray into Kendall, how would you then know if they have them or not unless you visited the area?? It Is very relevant! Unless you have Papa Criolla Mental Telepathy!! And why aren't you allowed to import them?? They aren't in any protected industry like Sugar!! I will ask a friend of mine(latin btw) whose business is the import and export of Fruit and Vegtables and she does a LOT of imports from South and Central America weekly.If, by chance, she doesn't know, then her friends who she works with in Miami at the Oldest and largest Produce Market on 20 st between 17 ave to 27 ave here in Miami will know. Gomez-do you have a Link for what you claim BTW??-that is, a LINK that says, "One is not allowed to export these potatoes to the USA"?

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 27, 2005, 09:50:

strange logic It has nothing to do with PC telepathy. It has nothing to do with your fiend in the business. It has nothing to do with the last time I was in Kendall.....all non sequitors.

I'll write it again...US CUSTOMS SERVICE!!!! Heard of them? I think you have. You travel abroad a lot. You cannot get back into this country until you pass their station. They have a number in Miami. Call them. Nothing personal. So don't turn it into one. Actually, the regulation prohibiting this particular item comes from the USDA, I believe, but the regulation is enforced by Customs service upon entry. Nevertheless, the result is the same. The item is banned.

I did challenge you to a bet, even a gentleman's one. Will you accept? IF you are saying that your friend knows more than the customs service, than we (you) have a whole different issue that needs addrssing.

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miamimike says on Aug 27, 2005, 10:27:

Gomezman, Are you bored today?? jaja I will ask my friend as she is contact with customs and the USDA weekly by virtue of her Food Import/Export Business. US Customs and the USDA are the ONLY enitys I would listen to. Unlike Posters on this website, they have the Final Word. JAJA

No, I won't accept your "Gentleman's Bet" because you would move the goalpost! jaja! burnt once, twice shy! jaja!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 27, 2005, 10:50:

Just remember Mike...it takes two to tangle I'm on line doing other things, and I can mutitask....it's easy you do.
Hey, I'm suprised nobody else here has come in here because, they know I am right. I know am right. I don't care what your friend says. Why

Because I was the idiot that got caught. So there, I think that closes the book Case closed. I have a friend....a real friend (not one of these "I have a friend" lines that you see here all the time. He is the owner of one of Chicago's oldest Colombian restaurants. "La Fonda". You can call there...it exists. It is on Broadway in Chicago. He told me a year or so ago that I could not bring them in. I tried. I admitted to it on the customs form in Miami. When they asked what I was bringing in. I pulled the bag of papas out. He knew right away what they were and then took them from me and put them in one of those huge plastic garbage like bags with wheels. He said "come around here, I want to show you something." Ja Ja, there were two other bags of papas in there. He said, people from Colombia try to bring them in all the time. He said, I was lucky I admitted it. If they would have done a random inspection, and if I would have lied on my custome form, I would have been arrested on the spot. Ok Mike. consider it a win for me. Because after what I just told you, what ever your friend says, is irrelevant.....I KNOW THAT TO BE THE CASE FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. So, like I said, they are not allowed in the country.

Now, let's see how bored you are. What's your comeback to this going to be about "your friend" in the fruit and veg business, and "your friend" who works for US Customs.

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kernow62 says on Aug 27, 2005, 11:19:

I was told that it has nothing to do with them being banned, rather it is the very short shelf life. For a while customs wouldn't allow crops grown underground into the US because of possible soil contamination. There is a website that shows all the restricted items, I have to laugh because some of the restricted items I can buy at the local market, particularly oriental markets. Perhaps they are worried about

Terrorist Potatoes

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miamimike says on Aug 27, 2005, 11:40:

Gomezman-you evaded the OP so I will reiterate again and PAY ATTENTION PLEASE--she asked about Papas Criollas; please show me by cut and paste that she asked for "fresh" Papas. End of discussion. I rest my case as You "ATTORNIES" say. jejeje (BTW-Jim's above post is more plausable as he lists a technical based in reality type reasoning)

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 27, 2005, 11:48:

Kernow... You were told absolutlely wrong.

What's with you guys???

Potatoes, of all sorts, have one of the longest shelf lives that there is. They last, much, much longer than other fruits and vegies that we commonly export from various countries. For example, ALL soft skin fruits and vegies have a very short shelf life. What fruit has a shorter shelf life than strawberries. Kernow, if we followed your logic, than we could never have a peach, a strawberry, or a mango imported here.

That is such a bunch of borsct. I talked to that inspector for almost 5 minutes. You know me from here, I never take anyones's word without an adequate explanation. You are wrong Kernow for another reason. You have to look at the underlying reason these prohibitions are place on some items and not others. It has zero to do with the shelf life. The limits are place on non these items because of the fear of infestation. If you go to the web site of the USDA, they will tell you that. You will not find any reason for prohibition that has to do with shelf life.

Some of you guys here must not be thinking today. Shelf Life??? Yea sure. That's funny Kernow. You do come up with some good ones some times.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 27, 2005, 11:56:

Mike..one of your earlier posts Clearly showed that you knew I was talking about fresh ones. In decent rebutable market has them in the bottle. Even the Mexican markets have them here in Chicago.

I simply made a comment that that fresh ones weren't allowed. And you took after me, like you have done a few times recently, because you decided to get sarcastic about my knowledge of the prohibition of fresh ones. And you say I have nothing to do today??? Look who is calling the kettle black senor??? Huh ? Maybe?? Maybe you should be asking yourself that question. Look, I don't like the game or where this is going. So that said, let's just cut it already. If you want to start splitting hairs, go find someone else to do it with.

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miamimike says on Aug 27, 2005, 12:45:

Gomezman I have other Saturday Priorities... I have to make my weekly saturday thrift store run. Beleive what you will or won't !

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kernow62 says on Aug 29, 2005, 04:47:

Gomez you haven't done your research. Papas Criollas and Dutch Yellow are known to have short shelf lives amongst potatoes. The smaller and yellower the tuber the more prone to spoilage.

PAPAS CRIOLLAS ( Creole Potato / Pommes de Terre Créole )

Tubérculo típico de Colombia sometido a congelación en su estado natural para una mayor conservación.
Puede consumirse frito, cocido y horneado acompañando sus comidas. Tambien puede usarse como ingrediente para la preparación de sopas.

Typical Colombian Yellow Creole potato frozen in its natural condition for larger shelf life.
It can be consumed fried or cooked or baked as side dish for your meals. It can also be used as an ingredient to make soups.
Tubercule typique de la Colombie soumis à surgélation en état naturel pour être mieux conservé.
Elles peuvent être consommées frites, cuites ou pour mettre au four pour accompagner les repas. Elles peuvent être utilisées comme ingrédient pour la préparation des soupes.
Gelbe Kartofeln, tipysche Knolle aus Kolumbien, gefrohren im natürlichen zustand für eine bessere conservierung. Es kann fritiert oder gekocht als Begleiter gegessen werden. Es kann auch als Zutat für Suppen benützt werden.

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kernow62 says on Aug 29, 2005, 04:50:

Also what a private individual can bring in through an airport is quite different to what the FDA will allow to be imported commercially.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 29, 2005, 09:01:

Kernow....sorry, but you're off a bit again!! You can banter all you want. First, you’re wrong...as usual on almost all of your above posts. I will itemize accordingly, starting what the easiest part.

1.The "FDA" DOES NOT, regulate what food is allowed in the country. The principal agency responsible for enforcement of the relative laws under USDA juridiction is the CBP (Customs and Border Patrol.) Only in situations where certain items may be con considered a drug, as opposed to a food, would the the FDA have jurisdiction. But, it is a Customs and Border Patrol Agent at the port of entry and NOT an FDA representative.

2. In a previous post you told me the government lists what items may and may not be allowed in the country. Sorry Kernow, you are wrong again. The list is an example of some known foods that are not allowed. There are many "food stuffs" that people attempt to bring into the US but cannot. The Customs representative has complete discretion as to what may or may not be allowed to enter. If you would have just thought for a second, you would have realized how sill you were to even think the would list every food. In fact, for your info, the general rule is that all food cannot be brought into the country in a raw or uncooked state. Packaged good are generally involved. But, even then, customs can and do at times refuse entry of item that are even packaged if they contain raw fruit.

3. Your last point is completely irrelevant. Like I said in a previous post, the government’s prohibition centers around the limiting of food and other raw natural material that may have some form of infestation. They DO NOT limit the entry of foods due to its short shelf life. I can assure you, that because 1. I knew about Papas criollas before you ever heard of Colombia, 2. My family brought them into the country before you ever went to Colombia, that I am more familiar with the shelf life of this item than you. But, it is not that short. Soft skin fruits, like strawberries, and peaches, have a much shorter shelf life than this potato. Bet on it.

4.Lastly, I am very much aware that there are different standards for individuals and commercial exporters. Commercial exporters have do either one of two things. They use either ozone, or ultraviolet to pre treat the raw food before entry. The point is they always have to pre treat the food in some way in order for them to bring the food into the US. so, you are not telling me anything that I already did not know.

So now that you think you enlightened me Kernow (and have not as usual) maybe you ought to carry one with some of you other mundane tasks like tending to your house guest.

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kernow62 says on Aug 29, 2005, 10:04:

Well, I called USDA and got the skinny. It turns out it is because they are worried that the papas will be used as seed to start growing the potatoes here in the USA. The ones in jars and the frozen ones cannot be used as seed potatoes.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 29, 2005, 10:13:

I knew that all the time... but you guys are really something else...three days now fighting over some papas criollas.

Talking about potatoes; a friend of mine smuggled some nice Ecuadorean potatoes in her backpack to Finland and has a nice South American potato patch at her country home in central Finland.

My mom smuggled som Idaho potaoes from Utah to Finland in her bags. They are totally thriving in the Finnish soil.

I'm going to try to bring some papas criollas to Finland on my next trip to Cali....

Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 29, 2005, 10:50:

Kernow..So, you think that is the "skinny"? Ja Ja One phone call? One line from a person who answered the phone, and you think that is all the prohibiton boils down to.....SEEDS. Kernow, just quit. IF you are going to argue, at least do so intelligently. If I want to know the reasoning behind a federal regulation, I will research the Federal statute and the Administrative rule (which has the same affect as the statute) to find out exactly what prohibition is. In fact, plats in seeds are just one aspect as to why there is a prohibition. There is still a fact specific aspect on food products, as well as other items in general that have absolutely nothing to do with seeds. Lettuce does not have any seeds (at least none that I can see) and I can't bring in lettuce.

Since your 2 minute phone call to USDA gave you some "seedy" answer that you thought made you more enlightened, I will give you a better answer than you got form the person on the phone. It talks about seeds and a host of other items that Customs can stop you from bringing into George Bush's American. Yippy!!! You should know that this is just a notice, and it is not the actual statute or administrative rule, which I can guarantee you is much more informative as well as restrictive.

Here is the link:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/prohibited_restricted.xml

And, as I stated earlier, Customs enforces the law that comes under the USDA jurisdiction. This link designates the standard that the USDA used to determine whether a product may or may not be brought into the country. Note Kernow: The standard makes no reference to the shelf life of a product, but in fact states exactly what I said earlier. The goal is to prevent insects and other pests (like yourself) from being brought into the country.

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/about/welcome.html

Now go eat some seeds.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Aug 29, 2005, 11:07:

Is papita criolla the one I call papita amarilla?
Chao X-)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Aug 29, 2005, 11:25:

I think so, kat I've seen them in jars in the States, papitas amarillas also called sometimes yemas de huevo. I also like the papa colorada, the mottled one that is really good in stews and soups, and essential in the empanada caleña stuffing.
Another delicacy I saw sold in jars in the States was the chontaduro.
Cheers,
Desi

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

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kernow62 says on Aug 29, 2005, 13:43:

Geez Gomez you are going to bust a bloodvessel because you don't like what I was told. They told me the same rule for potatoes applies to all import potatoes except seed potatoes from Canada can get an exemption.

Knock yourself out, I don't really care why I can't buy them, just that I can't. I think you just like to argue and that is your nature.

And don't use the "I am from Colombia" argument, you have spent less time in Colombia than many tourists so tell this argument to someone who will believe you.

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miamimike says on Aug 29, 2005, 14:37:

Well thats what I say also..... You need to Chill out Gomezman other wise you are going to Pop a Blood Vessel and Stroke Out.And for what, over a little potato?? One would think it may be time to lock this Thread.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 29, 2005, 14:55:

Kernow and Mike, 2 clueless individuals I indeed feel sorry for U both. I imagine it burns the both of you to no end when you have both been outmatched. Looks guys, it's not a crime to admit that you are wrong. At the same time, it easier just not to commend when you are embarking onto a terrain for which you are not familiar with. When you do such a thing, you do so at your own risk. In that instance, it's better to just keep the hands off the keyboard.

Mike, your unemployed, so I imagine it does not take much too get you going. It's kind of like the old people in Miami Beach who get upset when a rain drop falls or when from 9 AM on, it takes them all day to decide on where they are going to eat dinner. Rememeber, an idle mind is the devil's plaground.

And Kernow, how about this for the "I like to argue" theory. It takes two to tangle. So what you are saying is that when I post, I'm arguing, but when you post, you are enlightening? A rather one sided perspective. Poor logic in fact. But, that is somewhat characteristic of the Kernow that I know. Just remember, you respond to each and every post. However, when I respond, I make you look bad with facts and not superficial theories and pontifications that have no basis.

And as to my blood vessels, hmmmm, I think they are ok. I don't pop a blood vessel when I lose a case in court. Do you really think that I am going to suffer some emotional and physical trauma because I have the opportunity to make others look bad because they make statements that are factually incorrect, and then stand by such incorrect statements? Kernow, in your case, you just demur the corrections as if they were never made.

Kernow, I think your problem "stems" (no pun intended) from bad seeds with a short shelf life. Ja Ja Ja

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miamimike says on Aug 29, 2005, 16:01:

Gomezman, Everything will be OK after a little MH Counseling .Just take it easy.Remember the Song, "Don't Worry, Be Happy" No te Precupes, sea Feliz.This to will come to pass.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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cam0940 says on Aug 29, 2005, 16:23:

WOW This has been one of the more heated battles in recent memory. Kernow I think we may have agreed on some other threads but this time my friend you may have to throw the towel. Gomez will not be denied today, not on this subject. He's coming with hooks, jabs, uppercuts.... He's taking you guys on two at a time. And winning. Don't let pride send you back out into that ring for another round.

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kernow62 says on Aug 29, 2005, 16:25:

"Two to tangle" hmmm, well that must be another quaint Americanism that only you have heard of, like "take it off your head". All along silly me, I thought it was "it takes two to tango".

Gomez I never argued the fact that papas criollas are not found here. So what is your problem?

You still haven't given any proof to support your assertion for the reason they are not allowed in, or to disprove that the reason is that they are possible seed stock. Your feeble argument that lettuce isn't brought is irrelevant because there certainly can be a multitude of different reasons why the US won't allow certain crops into the country. Nor have you shown that papas criollas have a long shelf life as compared to other potatoes.

Bring some proof and we'll talk.

You are not credible, you pretend to be one thing then another.

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RolaParaTodaLaVida says on Aug 29, 2005, 16:41:

FRESH WHAT THE ???? FRESH ALWAYS FRESH...
EEEWWWW

SO JUDGEMENT HAS BEEN SET!

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RolaParaTodaLaVida says on Aug 29, 2005, 16:46:

Wow sorry everyone...all I wanted was to have some Papitas Criollas...people are really having a stressful time talking about them.
:) I second miamimike..."don't worry be happy"

Now if someone does find where I can find "FRESH" papitas that would be great.
now remember this is not the WWF Wrestling Federation

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kernow62 says on Aug 29, 2005, 17:40:

You can find fresh papas in Bogotá.

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Gomezman5 says on Aug 29, 2005, 19:01:

Kernow,,no proof??? Cut your looses Kernow. I have 3 PM's (names witheld) that belittles you. This fine person above (Cam09040) could not have stated it any better. Perhaps you need to reread his post.

I don't know you cam09040, but I have to say thank you for your backing.

And to you Kernow, if you think I did not provide you with credible proof, you really are showing you are not even as bright as I thought you were. If you can't understand English, and can't read the links and understand them, then you have business studying Spanish too long. You have certainly provided me with credible proof as to the fact that you are disingenous and that you are in one of those moods when you seem to like to go on a fishing expedition in search for some response that will never fully satisfy your curiosity.

I provided a lot credible proof about your shelf life nonsense, your seed nonsense --- uh what's the use?

My father always said, when you argue with a fool, you become a fool yourself. That said, since I do not want to enter the realm of fools, I will let you and your pride post your last sentiments. Go for it, and let your partner in crime follow with his. I'm out of here, inasmuch as our referee cam0940, has stated that I have gotten enough hooks and jabs to score a fairly convincing victory.....(a knockout I think, but he was being sympathtic for your benefit).

Thanks again cam.

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kernow62 says on Aug 30, 2005, 08:27:

And the term is cut your losses not your looses. You have the nerve to talk about people not being able to read English when you a "lawyer/CPA" cannot even write properly. Oh I forgot it is another typo, must be that Chicago keyboard where the letter "s" is next to the "o".

Just out of curiosity, how do you think potato pests and diseases infect other potato crops? They do so when they are planted, intentionally or otherwise. If you consume the potato it will not introduce these problems, but the USDA cannot take a chance that someone such as Desi will not plant a few out in the garden. Hence because they are seed stock (if they have eyes that is) they are not permitted in their fresh state.

My last word on the subject I promise.

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miamimike says on Aug 30, 2005, 14:16:

When You Attack the Poster and not the post, this is a sign of a Little Man with a little mind; that is you Gomez, for attacking the person and not the Post. A common ploy on the Internet known as transference-when you are losing, attempt to shift the focus of the discussion to something else, but we know you here Gomez! jaja. Your Post;

"Mike, your unemployed, so I imagine it does not take much too get you going. It's kind of like the old people in Miami Beach who get upset when a rain drop falls or when from 9 AM on, it takes them all day to decide on where they are going to eat dinner. Rememeber, an idle mind is the devil's plaground".

What does this have to do with papas criollas? Really, I am unemployed, so this, by your warped logic,has a bearing on this subject, Potatoes. Gomezman, you would be the last person to know of my employment history.I never stated where and when I work, so how do you know about this?? You put yourself into trouble here a lot by making crazy,unfounded claims. Not long ago you had a battle here with Lady Slyvie and she exposed your claims. You are to fault when you made the claims to being something/body you are not. First you claim to be an Attorney, unmarried without children in your 50s, then in the same thread you claimed you were a CPA with a MBA, 45 yrs. old, married(but separated, to a much Younger Colombian Woman)and you had children. Any wonder people are not confused? This affects your credability!!! I question your credentials,(btw, many here do) like Kernow does-I have never seen an attorney make as many spelling errors as you. Poor Spelling is NOT a TRAIT of an Attorney; furthermore, it isn't the trait of a CPA with a MBA either to make a lot of spelling errors. These dudes/women usually spell very precisely; maybe in your office its different-different standards in Chicago.You never would been Al Capone's Lawyer, that is for sure!

Gomezman-forget about those Federal Rules! In Miami, there are lots of items and people who are not supposed to be here but you know what, they are here! Example: Cuban Cigars for resale-not supposed to be here, but know what?? Go to any number of stores on Flagler st. or Calle Ocho and you can buy as many as you have dollars. Same for exotic pets, flowers, Food Products! Want a set of Illegal Documents(ss card, driver's license ect) You evidently have not been there lately or otherwise you would not post this foolishness you do on a routine basis.If Colombia makes or grows a product bet your life some Cubano(a) is selling it here.

SO an Idle Mind is the Devil's Playfround?? Well then, all those Little Red Guys with the Horns and Pitchforks must be really enjoying themselves inside of your mind.Bet there is a Long Waiting Line of those little red fellows wanting to get inside(your mind)jaja! Gomez, You, for lack of anything better to comment on, like to argue for sport.Seen it here 100 times. Have a good day and treat those little red guys upstairs nice jejeje
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cam0940 says on Aug 30, 2005, 19:53:

I don't know Gomez... I have been watching this bout very carefully. I had it 10-9, 10-9, 10-8 through the first three, but Kernow and Mike are out of their corner looking very strong. Trying to be impartial here, but that round definitely goes to the other two. Looks like Mike opened up a small cut with that last blow.

Whoever thought potatoes could be so interesting?

I will say that a lot of attys depend on spellcheck or their assistants. Spelling is a skill--albeit one you would assume an atty to have given how much reading is involved. Still, you'd be surprised. Some attys are some of the most non spelling people I know.

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platano says on Aug 30, 2005, 20:47:

Somewhat on topic: In the USA you cannot easily find "papas criollas" (I think my sister-in-law somehow gets them in Houson) but even in regular non-latino supermarkets anywhere you can usually find three different kinds of potatoes (white, red, and yellow, though not "criollas"). When my wife takes those commonly found three kinds of potatoes and makes ajiaco with guascas (from Houston) I swear there is no difference from ajiacos I've had in Cundinamarca, Valle, Antioquia, Cauca, and Risaralda. It is DELICIOUS!!!!

She also makes an incredible "papas chorreadas"... I mean she is wonderful!!!!

Glad to get this in before the thread is locked: I am poor... but very happy with ajiaco and papas chorreadas from gringo (not criollo) papas. :0)

Plátano, el bobo simplón
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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kernow62 says on Aug 31, 2005, 12:06:

Platano, try and find out what they call the little yellow potatoes? I have a suitable substitute for use in ajiaco, but am curious about the one she gets. Is she using dried guascas or fresh? I know it grows wild in the US, but it is too hot in Orlando to grow it I believe.

I think they also have a papa called papas criollas in Mexico, but I am not sure if it is the same, similar or totally different.

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RolaParaTodaLaVida says on Aug 31, 2005, 18:36:

guascas what the name for guascas in english?

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kernow62 says on Aug 31, 2005, 19:10:

The herb doesn't have a name I believe in English as it isn't used as an herb.

The plant is called various things, Gallant Soldier being a common name in the USA.

http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=plant_profile.cgi&symbol=GAPA2

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exelone says on Aug 31, 2005, 20:45:

papitas criollas If you are in the NYC area; You can find them in Queens in a several supermarkets that are called Trade Fair or Fair trade. These supermarkets are in astoria, jackson heights, Nortern Boulevard and other locations. Check the frozen foods section. Also at these supermarkets are lots of food products from colombia.

Good Luck

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platano says on Aug 31, 2005, 21:16:

Kernow, The guascas are dried. Brand name is Kiska. "Guascas: Hierbas Deshidratadas producidas por Morenos Ltda., tels. 6303930/26/29, Calle 74 #51-41, Bogotá, Colombia. L.S. F15MO1685. Vence 15-10-09. Store in a dark, cool, dry place. And you'll have delicious ajiaco colombiano aún con papas chiviadas!

Plátano, el bobo simplón
Oxigeno Verde ¡Libertad por Ingrid y los demás!

plátano

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kernow62 says on Sep 1, 2005, 04:15:

Thanks Platano, that is the same ones I use. In Orlando they can be purchased at Arepas Exito.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Sep 1, 2005, 09:37:

late to the game I'm late to this argument (thank god) but as far as I can tell papitas criollas are almost exactly the same as baby yukon gold potatos that you can buy at any decent farmers market in the US.

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Rubiazo says on Sep 1, 2005, 13:46:

Not the same as Yukon Gold. Really not even similar. Not to my taste buds anyways.
What I´d like to know is where you can get them FRESH in the NYC area. I can get them in jars 2 blocks from my place in the Bronx, but jars suck and frozen potatoes suck. Maybe they destroyed them all at the same time they destroyed the chica houses and the nightclubs along Roosevelt.

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isaactraveler says on Sep 1, 2005, 18:34:

hahah too funny wow what a bunch of spuds.

Hey. You can find those damn potatoes at a little corner store at about RICHMOND and TANGLEWILDE, in the same shopping center that MI PUEBLITO is. They are frozen and cost about $5.00 for a small bag that will make an olla full. ALSO, they have dried bags of Kiska brand Guascas (also sold at FIESTA).

Did you all know that FIesta also sells MANIMOTO? I think you can bring manimoto into the states without a permit.

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RolaParaTodaLaVida says on Sep 2, 2005, 17:03:

ah no way! papitas criollas are way different

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