observations

kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 19, 2005, 01:45:

Yes I agree with you but if you think in Bogota there are nuts drivers you haven't seen nothing yet, go to Villavicencio.. uhmmmm (specially taxy drivers)I thinK they are the world nutters taxy drivers) forget only seatbelts you need a helmet too.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Mar 19, 2005, 01:46:

;-)

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 06:11:

I was pleasantly surprised that Bogotá wasn't as littered with trash as I had expected. Prior to my first visit I had read in LP (worthless rag) that Colombians have no concept of litter disposal, they simply toss everything, including glass bottles out of the window of buses. I was of course only in Bogotá from El Centro north so perhaps I didn't see the littered areas. There were abundant trash recepticals and they seemed to be used.

Sadly this is not the case where I live and work, it is very commonplace for people to park their car within sight of a trash can or dumpster and proceed to empty the contents into a car park or the street.

I almost got into a fight over that this week, I blurted out some expletive to a guy dumping trash next to the dumpster where I work, I didn't see the other two guys in the car until after I opened my mouth. They picked up the trash! Littering is one of my pet peeves, the same is true for my wife who is from Bogotá.

Strange thing is, in Orlando it is a fairly recent trend, it never used to be that way. I don't think the city motto should be "The City Beautiful".

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 06:46:

Isn't it strange how two people can visit the same city and notice different things.

I took a flota only one trip to Zipa and didn't see anything like you experienced. In fact I looked through all my photos and didn't see litter at all. When I took the train I didn't see any either. Perhaps I was blinded by the scenery and too busy having a good time.

Shit happens, dog shit unless I step in it doesn't bother me, that is what rain is for. Better than seeing some poodle wearing a diaper.

My wife last visited Bogotá 3 years prior to our visit, and she commented on several occasions that the littering situation had improved even since her last visit.

I think I better pay more attention next time in case I step in some dog shit.

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juanalejo says on Mar 19, 2005, 06:55:

Tinto You are absolutely right, many people do throw things out the window. I do not think I ever recall a campaign against it so there is a lot of civic work to be done there. But I have to say that some how we are doing something better as compared to neighboring countries we seem to be a cleaner country, it is my opinion and that of people from those countries. Where is evident the ammount of litter thrown out the window is on the tolls when you exit Bogotá as with the many street vendors while the buses queue, lots of litter gets tossed.
Dog litter is another problem, for us dog owners there are big campaigns at dog stores and vets, but I have to say many dogs are walked at the same time by one person (big business) and then obviously this guys do not stop when one dog decides to litter. It has gotten better, at least in my park as many dogs are walked and people like me do call the attention of others but still a long way to go.

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 07:15:

Shit is biodegradeable, there are far worse things than shit that can go into lakes and rivers. Think of all the lawn treatments bug sprays, automotive by-products. Shit is shit, a naturally occuring byproduct of all of us. Yes it would be nice to not have it wash down the sewers, but I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon. At least cats bury their shit.

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 07:18:

Next you will be telling me it is wrong to piss out of the window on a bus. ;-)

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vladimiro says on Mar 19, 2005, 07:19:

In Medellin there you can see lots of signs on people's lawns stating something to the effect of "si su pero lo hizo por la naturaleza usted lo recoge por educacion", so there are civic campaigns for dog crap, but I haven't seen any for litter. I was disappointed to see so much litter in the botanical garden in Medellin.

England is the worst place for dog crap I've been to. I've been to nice restaurants in England where someone brings a smelly dog in thier while I'm eating and nobody says anything.

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utopiacowboy says on Mar 19, 2005, 08:53:

This must be the dog shit thread.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 09:32:

This thread is a load of crap!

Just joking VanMan, thanks for your observations.

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 09:33:

I'm with the Muslims when it comes to dogs and cats. Sensible people.

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Gomezman5 says on Mar 19, 2005, 10:21:

I thought it was only my observations..... that really matter. Juanalejo and Kernow told me me that they believe everything that I say. So if I see a city as a dump, than of course it must be. And if I see a city like Chicago as the next best thing to paradise, than it must be paradise.

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Lionheart says on Mar 19, 2005, 16:13:

Anybody need recipes? I have some good Chinese recipes using cats and dogs ...

Kernow, better piss out of the window than try to piss into a Coke bottle in the bus, missing most of the time ... witnessed on a bus ride in former Jugoslavia ...

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juanalejo says on Mar 19, 2005, 16:18:

Gomez I hope you and me come from different religions, because I hope in my religion paradise does not come to be even close to Chicago, and if it does I am changing faiths.

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 16:56:

Lionheart at least he tried to use a bottle. I was riding the bus here in Orlando and a guy just whipped it out and pissed right inside the bus! Gatorade bottles are the best for long road trips. In fact if you mix a little beer and the green Gatorade and a touch of Orange Gatorade it looks just like piss, chug this down and it is a guaranteed laugh at the party. ja ja

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Gomezman5 says on Mar 19, 2005, 17:27:

Juanalejo You're in good shape. Fear not. I am a pray to the ancient Egyptian God's. There is a pyramid in my living room. So, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Maybe that's my problem and maybe that is why I don't see things straight. What do you think? Should I convert?

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Lionheart says on Mar 19, 2005, 18:12:

Gomez ... maybe you need one of them copper pyramids to wear on your head ... they are supposed to work wonders ;-)

That is why they put the pyramid shape on some of the skyscrapers, to confuse the aliens and make them land there and not in Egypt again.

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 18:19:

maybe you need one of them copper pyramids to wear on your head ... they are supposed to work wonders ;-)

Gomez if you come to visit me in Florida don't forget to add the tall metal pole to the top of your pyramid hat and come in the summer, I also thing golf shoes would go nice with this ensemble.

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Gomezman5 says on Mar 19, 2005, 19:02:

Lionheart and Kernow I think you guys are getting somewhere. I remember when I was young,(very young)my grandmother used to wear a copper bracelet for her arthritis (Arthur Itis as she used to say)..She claimed it helped. So if a copper bracelet can bring about change, imagine what a copper pyramid on my head can do?? (with or without the pole) I wonder what Juanalejo thinks.

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 20:00:

If you still have hair I would recommend wetting down your hair really well before fitting the hat. Just a friendly tip. :-)

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Lionheart says on Mar 19, 2005, 20:07:

Gomez & Kernow I volunteer to come to Orlando, convert a Smart Car to a golf cart, and film the event for PBH, maybe JJ will assist and I add the music. BUT ... you both wear the copper pyramid with the pole while playing the golf match! Then we will see who's God will select as the victim. With my luck it will be Thor throwing a lightning bolt at the Smart Car Cart ...

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kernow62 says on Mar 19, 2005, 20:57:

I have a disadvantage I am well-grounded and have a magnetic personality, oh and I am losing my hair.

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Lionheart says on Mar 19, 2005, 20:59:

wrong game you play golf with handicaps, not disadvantages ...

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