not paying USA alimony and living in Colombia

panthdave says on Feb 10, 2007, 10:47:

Heavy Alimony Payments will not disappear Ex will probably hire a private detective and then he will notify the local authorities once they find you and then your on your own. There will be court hearing and you won't show up so a warrant will probably be issued at that point the detective can show the authorities the EEUU arrest warrant which will be up to them if they want to act on it for the EEUU..You can't come back to the EEUU either so you will have to get a visa in Colombia or stay illegally in Colombia because you cannot get anymore extensions on your passport.

You should pick another country then Colombia.

My Common Sense says this the situation that will happen.

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ColombianoGringo says on Feb 10, 2007, 11:00:

Oh God. $1500 a month in child support is bad enough. I can't imagine paying alimony as well.

Does anyone know of a list of states that don't normally order alimony? I live in Texas which is one of them. I am thinking of living in Florida, New Mexico, Arizona or Colorado in the future. Do any of those states award alimony in divorces?

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morphus says on Feb 10, 2007, 11:06:

? "What if you put all of your assests into your colombian wife name, can the usa courts get to that?"

That might be a good idea if the Colombian wife is honest. You would'nt want to piss her off. I think your idea is better than what a lot of other American guys do like killing the wife. Most usually get caught and end up spending their last days in prison. Let the wife live and move to Colombia with your loot. That should be the new thing.

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Azul says on Feb 10, 2007, 16:42:

Man....your Ex must really be screwing you over if you are willing to try that. Never underestimate an Ex-wife, they are capable of anything. I would imagine that she would go to hell and back just to track you down for her alimony. If you choose to skip payments and hideout in Colombia, good luck! You better be good at hiding..... also think about this, if everything is put in your Colombiana's name and it doesn't work out with her...now you have absolutely nothing. Your Colombian wife has everything, and you can't go back to the US because your Ex will be waiting for you. Scary!

las cosas caen por su propio peso

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Crazy4Cali says on Feb 10, 2007, 18:04:

You can run... Well, I'm no escape artist, but if you're running from your wife and ultimately the law, you might want to find a country that doesn't have an extradition agreement with the U.S. As others have said, you'll probably also want to abandon the idea of ever returning, as well which presents some logistical problems (e.g. money). And don't forget the implications in your new home of being out-of-visa status.

But, what about your money?

Leave your money in a U.S. Bank? how long before the ex starts to garnish it?

Leave with a duffle bag full of cash? If you can make it to your hotel in Colombia with the duffle bag intact, you'll be fine until you're robbed or you run out of duffle bag, which ever comes first.

Then there's the worst-case scenario, the spiteful ex finds out that in Colombia you can have your dirty deeds done dirt cheap and she makes a couple of phone calls (and the last thing you see is a flash from someone on the back of a moto...)

You might want to think carefully about your plan.

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bufalo says on Feb 10, 2007, 22:10:

Why not just say "honey, lets make up, I'll book us a beautiful, romantic vaction in Medellín. Yes, Medellín, it's really picking up as a tourist destination. Let's go poopikins....."

Then when you're down here, be the victim (or you being the only survivor) of a really vicious attack.

That'll be cheaper, and problem solved.

OK off my back, I'm joking and there was a thread like this not too long ago....

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

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arthur brode says on Feb 11, 2007, 13:49:

Personally I dont think you will be extradited on a Civil offense.Iam almost positive of this.Liquidate all your assets and come to sunny Cali!!My Attorney will help you with transfering funds,a Visa,relocation process ect.arthurbrode at aol.com

http://www.calirentals.net/

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jay1234 says on Feb 11, 2007, 13:53:

What if you put all your assets in your Colombian ... wife's name, can the US courts get to that? The answer is yes. It would be a fraudulent conveyance under most scenarios. The U.S. Uniform Fraudulent Transfers Act ("UFTA")covers this:
" § 6-16-8.2 Fraudulent conveyance by transferor of child support – Civil action. – (a) A person who has been adjudged to be in contempt of an order or judgment for child support entered pursuant to chapters 9, 10, 11.1, and 13 under title 15 who knowingly makes a conveyance without fair consideration to an individual for a fraudulent purpose relating to avoiding payment of the order or judgment shall be liable in a civil action to the obligee under the order or judgment in an amount equal to the value of the conveyance made."

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jay1234 says on Feb 11, 2007, 13:53:

What if you put all your assets in your Colombian ... wife's name, can the US courts get to that? The answer is yes. It would be a fraudulent conveyance under most scenarios. The U.S. Uniform Fraudulent Transfers Act ("UFTA")covers this:
" § 6-16-8.2 Fraudulent conveyance by transferor of child support – Civil action. – (a) A person who has been adjudged to be in contempt of an order or judgment for child support entered pursuant to chapters 9, 10, 11.1, and 13 under title 15 who knowingly makes a conveyance without fair consideration to an individual for a fraudulent purpose relating to avoiding payment of the order or judgment shall be liable in a civil action to the obligee under the order or judgment in an amount equal to the value of the conveyance made."

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surf17683 says on Feb 11, 2007, 14:13:

yes florida does award alimony yes, florida does have alimony, thats where i live.

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surf17683 says on Feb 11, 2007, 14:15:

extradition well, i'm thinking the same way, i really dont think florida is so concern to have someone extradited for a civil offense, i understand if i was under some of crime that might be so..

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jay1234 says on Feb 11, 2007, 14:41:

criminal contempt I am not suggesting that they will send FBI agents to go fetch you. If you do not return to the US, then you may be ok. However, don't misunderstand that shirking the alimony obligation can turn into a criminal contempt case. I think re-entry into the US at that point could cause you some problems.
To clarify, the order to pay is a civil obligation to the ex-wife. However, willfully ignoring the court's order to pay can turn into an offense against the court- the crime of criminal contempt.

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enzo says on Feb 11, 2007, 16:00:

been thru the system My applause to arthur brode, for having the balls to say it it like it is,, contact a lawyer down there..All you other members who have not been raped by the courts shut the f up

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jay1234 says on Feb 11, 2007, 16:12:

Just a word of advice on that... A Colombian attorney should be competent to tell you about Colombian law. Not sure that they will be good for telling you the consequences for violating US law. And what do they care to so long as they get their fee. Once you pay them, your problems in the US are likely of minimum concern to them. My thought is that you may have a decent shot at avoiding problems if you stay out of the limelight down there. But it sounds like you may have criminal law problems, taxation avoidance issues, currency laws violations, and the list goes on and on. Do you know what would happen when you show up at the US Embassy seeking help? What about upon re-entry to the US? In any case, I would tread carefully. Even more so if you are not 100% sure that you won't return to the US. If you had an attorney for the divorce, I suggest talking over your thoughts with him or her. Good Luck.

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aztec says on Feb 11, 2007, 18:17:

Surrender your U.S.... ...citizenship. The US will no longer have a claim on you. Worry no more about the American courts. Live peacefully and safely with your new Colombian wife in Colombia. Don't visit the US again but instead go to Europe for your vacations.

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arthur brode says on Feb 11, 2007, 18:51:

jaja .

http://www.calirentals.net/

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