Normal for Colombian women to ask for gifts???

platano says on Jan 9, 2006, 19:47:

Being a manly banana and choosing women wisely... Colombian women never asked me to buy them gifts. But they always bought me gifts... and I reciprocated. It was lovely... Oh, and if I admired something and commented on it, they would try to give it to me. They gave me so much more than I gave them. Must be because I don't drink and never picked up anyone in a bar. But I did find absolutely beautiful women in bookstores and libraries and universities and poetry readings and intercultural centers and international film series and drama festivals and music concerts...etc. etc. etc. Oh, what the hell, the most beautiful women I found were in Antioquia, not in Valle de Cauca or Cundinamarca or San Andres Isla or Amazonas or etc. etc. etc.

And I looked everywhere. Almost all the departments of Colombia. Como paisas no hay igual. Probably helps that a long time ago I learned to see inner beauty... and como paisas no hay igual... pues, extiende también a la región que comprende el Viejo Caldas. Me enloquecieron, pue, sí, ellas tienen la culpa, pero... ¡que locura tan bella!

plátano

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miamimike says on Jan 9, 2006, 21:19:

In my case, about 50% of the Time Colombian women attempt to hit me up for a Gift or a Loan 2 out of three. Estrata, Income, Education and profession doesn't seem to affect this trait. One that comes to mind ask me for a Loan of $2500, no payment contract. She got "0". Another one ask me send her a Bed, mattress and frame from Miami, I sent her an Air Mattress, LOL(really). No loans, small gifts sometimes but of my volition. Don't know why they do this!

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jan 10, 2006, 05:32:

silviat says on Jan 10, 2006, 08:03:

I don't think so I don't think an average respectful colombian lady would ask you for a present. At least that it's her birthday and you are very close friends, in that scenario she could tease about the boots in Atlantis, but thats it.

My colombian friends, when a girl started asking them for stuff they would just leave and then refer to her as the "gasolinera".

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Crazy4Cali says on Jan 10, 2006, 09:13:

At least... When they start asking for presents, at least you then know what kind of girl you're dealing with. The question at that point becomes, "how long do you want to deal with it?"

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Wastelandlive says on Jan 10, 2006, 09:22:

I believe the phrase is: "Entonces, ayudas tus novias economicamente?"

You're in the wrong bar.

Wasteland

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GregYohn says on Jan 10, 2006, 09:57:

My Girlfriend Have to say its upsetting when my g/f with a 5 yr tourist visa to the USA says its expensive to come to the US. Of course, I understand that its good that she will not eagerly take my money. I figured that she can tell me how much is affordable and then maybe I can handle the extra amount for the air fare.

It is much better than having in the back of my mind wondering if she is just after my money or an American Green Card,(Not Green - just permanent residency). Had a filipina wife that seemed to forget having a lower standard of living in the USA than in the Philippines did not give her the right to go and get other men that promised more $'s than me.

Greg

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toneloc24 says on Jan 10, 2006, 11:41:

Damn!!! LOL!!!

"PBH is dead!!!!"

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jediknight says on Jan 10, 2006, 12:50:

the only women who ask for gifts or money are the ones that see sucker written on a guys forehead. part of the problem is that guys fly down spending cash without any self control or worse without any idea about the message they are conveying. guys with normal jobs are rich in colombia so we have no problem taking cabs and eating out because its cheap but its not cheap for colombians. we offer to pick up the tab here and there, even make the mistake of saying how cheaps things are so women see this and think they can leech off of the generous fool.
any woman with self worth would go hungry before asking for anything from a gringo, plain and simple so if you are involved with someone who asks for anything, even jokingly, get rid of her, she is not wife material.

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jan 10, 2006, 12:52:

Lucia Rojas says on Jan 10, 2006, 15:15:

No. It is not normal behaviour.. and as Sylvia said, it might be something you joke about wth a very good friend.. but that's about it. Actually, colombianas like to give a lot of little gifts frequently... Detallitos, they are called.

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Greg444 says on Jan 10, 2006, 16:20:

Well in this situation , it was Christmas time, and I was leaving the next day, and she brings up I should buy her a gift, maybe the boots at Decko.
It just seems awkard for a person to ask for a gift, but I was told by some Colombians the girl is testing you to see how much you really love her. She is a pretty Costena, but working in Bogota, I hear girls from the coast . ask for gifts more so then Bogota women.

Until I hear from more Colombian women, unbiasedopinion, I will assume a red flag.

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Greg444 says on Jan 10, 2006, 16:21:

Well in this situation , it was Christmas time, and I was leaving the next day, and she brings up I should buy her a gift, maybe the boots at Decko.
It just seems awkard for a person to ask for a gift, but I was told by some Colombians the girl is testing you to see how much you really love her. She is a pretty Costena, but working in Bogota, I hear girls from the coast . ask for gifts more so then Bogota women.

Until I hear from more Colombian women, unbiased opinion, I will assume a red flag.

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Greg444 says on Jan 10, 2006, 16:43:

She did not tell me to buy the boots to show my love, if read slowly, you will see I said other Colombian people told me sometimes girls test you.
Anyway she makes 2mil peso a month, in a good job, I've already kown her on and off for 3 years.

But like I said , a red flag.

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Lucia Rojas says on Jan 10, 2006, 17:11:

yup, red flag... it was too specific also.. "the boots at Atlantis", what is that? So if you give her something else, will she think less of you? If you show up with a christmas chocolate bar? will she not like it?
On the other hand you say you have known her for 3 years ( intimately?) so maybe she was just teasing...
But if that kind of demand is made in a serious tone then be careful. And testing love? what kind of behaviour is that? Deliberately testing someone's love seems totally pathetic and not very healthy to me. But those were her friends, right?

Dime con quien andas y te dire quien eres......

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jan 10, 2006, 18:25:

Crazy4Cali says on Jan 10, 2006, 21:14:

It's a test... ...a test to see how much of a sucker you are for a pretty face (or whatever).

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caslug says on Jan 11, 2006, 00:01:

Also, had a girl ask me to buy her a teddy bear.. it was in cali, we had gone out the whole day(1st date) then she asked me for the teddy bear, it was 15k or something. at first i played dumb and said, i didn't understand(spanish that is). But she kept asking, i bought it but after that i never called her again. She called me several times to go out, but i blew her off after that.

The oddest request was in MED, a girl asked me to buy her mom some food after our date. This was AFTER i took her AND her sister out for food at the street vendor(oblesiko) then drinking then dancing. I bought her mom two hot dogs, 8k plus 2k tip.

But i've had several amigas that were poor, but THEY gave me gifts.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 11, 2006, 07:29:

I trust middle Colombianas on I trust middle-class Colombianas only as far as I could throw them. This broad from north curramba, wealthy part, actually asked me for my digital camera, another one wanted the latest cell phone, all under the “I’ll pay you back” I said what?? Man, you gotta do a lotta stuff you’re not gonna like and might be a little painful for this damn camera or cell phone. Meanwhile the poor girls down in south where happy and most grateful just to be taken out to Soledad (south curramba) to down 150 peso beer, and half a dozen butifarras con bollo.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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treeshark2 says on Jan 11, 2006, 08:25:

I think that you are being a bit unfair to Colombianas. Having a female try to shake you down for money is really world wide.
At work in the US, one of my techs was raising hell about her boyfriend one day. Turns out that her girlfriend had received a $5,000 ring from her boyfriend and now she wanted her boyfriend to give her a $8,000 ring or she was going to stop seeing him. They had been dating for TWO months!!!!!
In the Dominician Republic, I met a chica who was receing money from 23 (at that time) boyfriends from overseas.
If I go shopping in Colombia with a chica, I will never show any interest in anything that I see. In the past when I have, the chica almost always will buy it for me as a present. I have received more presents from Colombianas then from everyone else combined.
All Colombianas may not be perfect but as a group I think they are still the best in the world.
If a chica wants a present, go to a toy store and look for a stuffed animal. I like the Garfields that say Te amo mucho. If the chica does not like that then you have your red flag.

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BrassAdonis says on Jan 11, 2006, 08:30:

NO middle Ground New guy posting
In my book Elmodefogue and Morphus take one out of the playa's handbook. A woman in any country is either going to look at you as a sucker for showering her with gifts or enjoy the little things. It's like there is no middle grown. Women are women. Just put yourself in there shoes and imagine how you would act if your a spoiled brat that doesn't want to work. If you are a person with morals/respect you know better to beg or use people for cash.

I don't think anyone can argue with that

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miamimike says on Jan 11, 2006, 08:55:

Colombianas(in general) have raised this "asking" to a high state of the art form IMHO."Colombian women attempt to hit me up for a Gift or a Loan 2 out of three. Estrata, Income, Education and profession doesn't seem to affect this trait" BTW, none of these were women met in either an agency or some bar.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 11, 2006, 09:18:

For me is very easy to size up colombianas. All I do is ask myself, would this broad from a middle class family even give me the time of day if I did not come from USA and instead was a modefoque driving a bus and still living in curramba? Another thing I do, even after they find out that I carry dollars in my pocket, is to invite them out drinking to south curramba where the down and out barranquilleros hang out, if they say no way José, all I say is see ya!
I have to agree, broads are the same all over the planet, we gotta pay for it, but we get to decide how much.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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GregYohn says on Jan 11, 2006, 10:14:

G/F a Giver Thanks! After hearing about some of the not so genuine women mentioned, my G/F is checking to pay for her own way to get to the USA. I let her know the previous post recommending me to find one with average looks and sincere heart to find the best woman. She is not a model, but still looks good and has a heart of gold.

Today we talked for at least 3 hours and told her why I love her so much many times! You folks make it easy for me to appreciate her!

Greg

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elmodefoque says on Jan 11, 2006, 10:45:

Tinto, you gotta join me sometime. I like to drink cervezas in this place a little pass the airport in curramba a neighborhood called Malambo. They got a tiny place off the main dirt road with a nice shade, a few burros tied to a tree, dogs licking their balls, guys selling crucified rabbits and more flies that you care to see. There’s no electricity and the beer is kept in a large drum filled with big chunks of ice, not the nice square shape we get here in the usa, but the big chunks of ice a corroncho brings in a carretilla covered with a dirty rag and quickly melting from that barranquilla sun. There, they charge 180 pesos per beer, some say those beers are rejects and there have been cases of modefoques going blind from drinking that shit. Nonsense! I see just fine.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Albatross says on Jan 11, 2006, 10:48:

. How many fingers am I holding up ?

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elmodefoque says on Jan 11, 2006, 10:49:

11

I'll get there, when I get there!

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paisa29 says on Jan 11, 2006, 11:26:

I think that is NOT normal

"Fill the earth with the light and warmth of hospitality" Conrad Hilton

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jan 11, 2006, 13:02:

The cheap beer... no problem. But I might have to pass on the meat of unknown origin. ;-)

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jan 11, 2006, 14:30:

toneloc24 says on Jan 11, 2006, 16:33:

TomTom33 They probably have less teeth than you, and weigh 100 lbs more. Maybe a wandering eye, or narcolepsy.

Remember the burra-screwing source here. He strike you as one to turn away a COP5.000 hooker regardless?

LOL!!!

"PBH is dead!!!!"

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silviat says on Jan 11, 2006, 17:02:

Everytime I read threads like this I bring my husband to the computer or go and summarize him what the thread is about. Just for fun... Then I tease him and I tell him:

You see baby? Don't complain about me being crazy about not wanting to spend money or waste anyfood.

Anyway for the guys... I just think if you don't see the red flags with the "gold digging" girls... maybe you've got it... for being dumb.

But please don't come here and start telling about how terrible colombians ladies are... I am not a single gringo man travelling around the world, but I know that in several different countries you will find that situation. Even in your own.

Greetings

Silvia

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Greg444 says on Jan 11, 2006, 17:53:

OK , some good comments.
But in all other ways she is so nice, I'll catagorize her in the proceed with caution catagory. I have other girls I know anyway.

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jan 11, 2006, 19:33:

BxUnika says on Jan 11, 2006, 23:44:

Re: Silvia "But please don't come here and start telling about how terrible colombians ladies are... I am not a single gringo man travelling around the world, but I know that in several different countries you will find that situation. Even in your own."

I LOVE it! These guys come there thinking they are something because they are Americans with dollars and treat women there like prostitutes and slabs of meat and them have the cojones to come here and bitch about being taken advantage of. Who has to go to a whole other continent to score a date with a women? Can somebody say loser? Does anybody here HONESTLY feel sorry for these men?

I mean, if it were just a fluke and they happened to be in the US or Europe and met a Colombian woman or went on vacation to Colombia because they like the culture, yeah, then I might have compassionate for them. No, they go to live light high rollers and flash their money and nationality and get what they give.

I said this many times and I'll say it again, I think Peter and the moderators should seriously curb thses Colombian women posts. Almost none of thse guys come here to talk about the music, the landscapes, the culture, food, etc. of Colombia; It's all about where to meet women, where to buy hookers, what women are the best looking, Colombian women are shit because some loser had a bad experience with one. And you say that you love these women? Yeah, you love these women kind of like how masters "love" their slaves or Brazilians love a good steak.

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el_rey_de_pollo says on Jan 12, 2006, 01:22:

I met a lot of losers in Colombia. They really don't have any other choice but to travel to poor countries for a date. They have bald heads and ugly bodies. Not many of them look like they can land a role on a daytime soap opera. Women their own age don't like them either. What else can they do?

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tomtom33 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jan 12, 2006, 05:26:

elmodefoque says on Jan 12, 2006, 05:54:

I‘ve now realize that I’m a big time loser. Why do I keep going back to Colombia? my childhood there was nothing but a nightmare, I’m not that close to any of my relatives there, I’m not a patriot at all, shit, I rather claim to be Mexican or nyc Latino. I realize I go there for the same reason many gringo go, broads!! I’m no longer that young stud getting chased around by beautiful NYC girls, I’m a middle age modefoque with a fist full of dollars willing to pay for some fun, but of course I have to be very very careful, cuz if my young cachaca wife catches me, after she runs me over and over with the SUV there’ll be nothing left, but a greasy bloody spot on the pavement.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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Crazy4Cali says on Jan 12, 2006, 09:35:

Just to point out to the ladies who are so easily offended by "ugly gringo loser" threads, this one was steered off track by a female.

I think Silvia's attitude is the best.

If you're not a "gold digger" then there's no reason you should be offended by such discussions. In fact, I would think the non-golddigging women should be more offended or embarrasssed by the golddigging women than the poor saps who fall victim to them. Just as I, a middle-aged-gringo-white-guy, am offended by the "ugly americans" I see when travelling abroad.

What I don't understand is why women don't get offended when cute guys or "hunks" use their looks to take advantage of women, but they do get offended when rich guys use their money. Are they just jealous that the rich guys aren't using their money to take advantage of them?

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California says on Jan 12, 2006, 10:03:

Of course this is normal. I have seen it with my friends' girlfriends all the time- I want to smack these idiots upside the head- beware, they also expect you to pick them up and drop them off- everywhere, and pay for gym memberships and tanning and trips! Perhaps I'm a little to liberal....
On the flipside, they will cook for you and pamper you with attention, um, sexual attention that is... Come to think of it, they are pretty smart!

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lockheed says on Jan 13, 2006, 06:19:

My experience is that when a Colombiana likes you, not only sexualy, but as a "friend" she usualy will give you gifts.
With hookers and bar girls are diffrent.

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elmodefoque says on Jan 13, 2006, 06:56:

Occasionally I bring my favorite hookers gifts, ok not expensive stuff, maybe a $1.99 blouse from Conway. Those girls are quite appreciative of little priceless junk and for a minute it makes them feel like a regular girlfriend. Good chance you might get a couple extra free hours outta them.

I'll get there, when I get there!

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